1 MILLION VIEW MICRO HYDRO video kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGeVoGyJg9yge7c
@fearofchicke Жыл бұрын
The first link in the description doesn’t appear to work.
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
I checked this morning and it was working. Looks like it's got some server error.
@rimc4378 Жыл бұрын
@@LandtoHouse I would like to try and get something like this to work on my pool return lines! If i could produce 110/30a or close it would reduce the money I spend running the pool pump.
@ARLGD11 ай бұрын
That's a great micro hydro video! If you're interested in alternative power solutions, you might want to check out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It offers a massive capacity, powerful output, and fast recharging. Plus, it's waterproof and has comprehensive protection features. It could be a valuable addition to your outdoor gear or home backup power system. Happy camping!
@ARLGD11 ай бұрын
That's a really interesting video! If you're into off-grid systems, you should definitely check out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It's a versatile powerhouse that can keep your devices and appliances running for extended periods. With its massive capacity, powerful output, and waterproof technology, it's perfect for outdoor enthusiasts and RV lovers. Plus, it has a smart app control feature for easy management. Check it out!
@Doomscrollart7 ай бұрын
My father passed last year and I'm trying to patch up his homestead. One of the tricky bits has been making sense of the hydro generator system. So this video is incredibly helpful :)
@portnuefflyer2 ай бұрын
I'm 75, and have had a few similar comments on my hydro system : "when you die, no one else will be able to figure out how to operate it." I just tell them "not my problem."
@Doomscrollart2 ай бұрын
@portnuefflyer exactly. And honestly, over the last 20 years that he had the property, the entire thing needs to be updated at any rate.
@drjonbear751710 күн бұрын
A great addition to this that we have is that when batteries are full, power is 'dumped' into a hot water tank, and a couple of 2kw heaters in our drying room.
@aaronnoffsinger5922 Жыл бұрын
PVC is made for interior and under ground piping. It is susceptible to UV degradation. It would be advisable to paint it when left outside.
@stephencooper5040 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, just an exterior grade latex should suffice, there’s plenty of paints that block 100% of UV radiation.
@andrewallason4530 Жыл бұрын
uPVC is available, and is UV stable. However, I would still paint it a colour more appropriate to be less obtrusive in the environment.
@boblatkey7160 Жыл бұрын
So in 20 years it becomes brittle, big deal!
@aaronnoffsinger5922 Жыл бұрын
@@boblatkey7160 Won't take that long but okay suit yourself. It's a brilliant system Thank you Sir
@portnuefflyer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, I guess! I just used white PVC couplers, fully exposed to the sun, for connecting my risers to my impact sprinkler heads, anyone know if the grey PVC fittings are any better in UV?
@louisharper14716 ай бұрын
I love this set up, you should do another video where you break down the costs and construction process.
@Tom_M_Riddle5 ай бұрын
You are super good at explaining this. Most videos are confusing. Thank you
@Jim-ku6ry5 ай бұрын
I saw a video where they installed a hot water tank to pull the extra charge off the system. This way you don't over work the turbine. There was a temperature monitoring unit on it so if it reached a certain temperature it would flush the hot water out. Kind of cool.
@Zindolin3 ай бұрын
Its a great concept. For long term use. Transitioning to stainless steel piping for the length of the system. Weather permitted you can also use a heat tape to keep it from freezing in extreme temps. I love the concept! 😎👍
@jllaine Жыл бұрын
I really like the design of the 3" ring pipe with T's to the straight-in 2" ball valves and jets.
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
Yes it is working well for them! 500w is great for an off grid system.
@ztukariansevuri Жыл бұрын
Why do you like this? Its the most ignorant design, with massive efficiency loss. This entire system is virtually trash. These hydro generator designs were better on the platform a decade ago, and now everyone acts like theyre an expert, but the reality is they dont know anything but the basic asss concept. Do your research cause this entire design is a waste of time and energy...
@wesley00042 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, having jets from four directions probably helps the bearings last longer too.
@matthiasnickerson3058 Жыл бұрын
That intake system looks just like a miniature version of what was on this dam ran by Georgia Power that I grew up swimming at.
@anndrake492 Жыл бұрын
Superb explanation! You can really understand how this system works. Kudos!
@jeffjefferson2676 Жыл бұрын
Having a piece of land with a lot of height difference and a creek has a lot of added value because you can get a lot of electricity, and its constant. Pretty good! I would surely add solar panels too, and build an indoor greenhouse if I had that much free power. 500 watts all day long can probably run all appliances of the house you run each day while they are not on all day long. Greetings, Jeff
@YamiKisara Жыл бұрын
You can always build a mini-dam (just a tub to catch the water, really) to balance out the lack of a height difference - I reckon it's better to build it either way, because creeks don't have a constant flow of water year-round and you'd wanna account for that fluctuation.
@asdfasdf-dd9lk Жыл бұрын
@@YamiKisara Not how that works, you can't artificially add height difference, the energy comes from the change in height of the water from the source to the drain. This takes advantage of all of the 50ft of head using that pipe, which is superior to a dam. In terms of a small scale energy storage solution (since 500W isn't enough for most appliances, but averaged over the day and night ought to be more than enough) would be a battery, since a dam for energy storage simply isn't reactive enough to fluctuate to power, say, a toaster or something.
@GEEZYEA777 Жыл бұрын
@@asdfasdf-dd9lk They can still use a reactive turbine for the larger creek/reservoirs with less head; Pretty sure it goes as low as 5 foot but the reactive turbines need a higher volume flow rate than the pelton turbine used in this video
@mattcintosh2 Жыл бұрын
500 constant watts over the course of a year at 14 cents a kwh is about $600 worth of free power a year
@oldbatwit5102 Жыл бұрын
@@mattcintosh2 14 cents? In Britain I pay around 45 cents per Kw hour. plus standing charges.
@stevenrobertson9583 Жыл бұрын
WOW such a small compact system that produces 3 phase a/c electricity is just AWESOME!
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
For this family way way back in the woods 500w is really doing them good.
@ruprectmonkeyboy1856 Жыл бұрын
It's likely not usable as 3 phase. Probably too high a frequency. This is the reason for the rectification, and subsequent inverter. If it was 60 Hz there'd be no need for that intermediate step. The point is, no 3 phase motors allowed.
@scottadams3544 Жыл бұрын
@ruprectmonkeyboy1856 good observation. Yes the 3phaze would have its own phase position and not be able to connect (align position) with the grid phase position. But You could use it "dirty" to run many things. Like heating element, an old resistance light bulb is fun because you can sometimes see the HZ hertz cycle of the generator. 40hz to 60hz depending on the speed. You would need/want an AC capacitor and regulator transphormer to run anything with a computer in it. The capacitor should reduce any power surges and the regulators wa a a a w taped in before the rectifier will give you that clean power wave. 120v without the losses that a
@ruprectmonkeyboy1856 Жыл бұрын
@@scottadams3544 those small alternators don't typically run at 50-60 Hz. A PM alternator like that can't speed regulate electrically by increasing the torque load, so it's gonna spin at whatever speed it wants to, and create AC at whatever frequency it wants to. That's not usable in any other way than they way they're doing it, other than in a heater or incandescent load as you mention.
@MariuszChr8 ай бұрын
Your car's alternator is also this.
@NSResponder8 ай бұрын
Former colleague of mine has a place in Oregon with a year-round stream. There's about a 300 foot change in elevation across his property. Not sure how much power he's making, but he's running his house and wood shop on a Pelton turbine. He's using firehose instead of pipes to feed his system, apparently hose that's considered too worn for the firetruck was available at a very reasonable price.
@kennethleavis1877 ай бұрын
Hi Seth I’m happy to see you back with your innovative hydro turbine system demonstration
@jessehanson8928 Жыл бұрын
Very good explanation of plumbing and electricity systems, good all around video. Thankyou for your thoroughness
@KK-be8rv Жыл бұрын
500 Watts constant delivery is impressive. it's enough for passiv consumers like fridges and can serve a computer. With battery together, it should be enough to run a whole household.
@brofessormex Жыл бұрын
Thats an amazing creek. Everywhere i go world wide, lakes are dry. Make good use of that water.
@james94582 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, and great information... Especially for a newb like me trying to learn about these types of setups.... I love WNC and wish I had a place in the woods I could setup like that..
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. It's nice to know that my videos are helpful for educational purposes. This system really was designed nicely and working well.
@karaabdelkader1273 Жыл бұрын
@@LandtoHouse I'm not expert at electricity but that's a lot work for a mere 500watts so I have to ask : is it making 500 watts per hour, or per minute or oer second (instantly) because if it's per hour, it can power only a fridge, ceiling fan and a tv at max so not really worth it. But if it's at least per minute or per second it will be actually worth it.
@АнтонСтеков-у8с7 ай бұрын
@@karaabdelkader1273 500 watts per sec. = 500 W*h in hour or 12KW*h in day(24 hour)
@sirjames1977nc Жыл бұрын
That is a top quality system. I bet that battery cost a bit. But pays itself off. Well done🎉
@andrewallason4530 Жыл бұрын
I have friends who were quoted $85k for a mains supply. They were able to completely off-grid for less than half that cost, and have never had a power cut, unlike many of their ‘near’ neighbours on-grid.
@boblatkey7160 Жыл бұрын
Well I would say it's absolutely sloppy electrical workmanship.
@sparked3113 Жыл бұрын
People will be using 2nd hand EV batteries for this set up in the near future.
@andrewk8636 Жыл бұрын
that battery isnt necessary for hydro setups. i wonder if they have solar as well because 12kw a day from hydro isn't enough unless they're extremely minimalist and efficient. if you have sufficient hydro power you can get by just fine with a much smaller battery because water flows at night too. solar needs huge batteries because of no power generation at night. similar option if you have a reservoir that doesn't have enough flow for all day you can use solar and open the water valve at night too to save on battery costs but that doesn't work with streams
@ynvch4 ай бұрын
Really nice system. A few suggestions: use a weather proof junction box for the connection at the turbine, the black tape will degrade overtime. I would protect the rectifier with a breaker. Try to secure the wires coming out of the inverter, don't let them hanging off the connection, it will degrade and overheat.
@susanvaughn74111 ай бұрын
I think more experimentation needs to be done on the impulse wheel. I feel there is more energy available than you are getting. Perhaps a jet turban inside the pipe with thru shaft to the outside thru a 45 degree bend to generator. Or, a turgo runner, instead of a pelton. The problem with pelton is that it relies on head pressure, but resist the flow. Water has to slow down to get the job done. It’s like getting lots of amps, but slow volts. Very nice set up!
@__-cr6fv Жыл бұрын
Awesome system, excellent coverage!
@rayduffy475 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant....I'm just looking into this process....you explained that very well...thankyou
@PLTSsederhana_2 ай бұрын
You are super good at explaining this. Thank you.
@ecomotive6158 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned that a dip in the pipe would cause a partial air-lock and that's true but in practice the air trapped in the high point will eventually dissolve in the water and be carried out of the system.
@chikambambam3492 Жыл бұрын
Wow I thank you ,I I followed you on Ram pump but this my favorite micro giriid I hope you to buid one in Genbu Nigeria and in my apple farm by God grace in the future
@portnuefflyer Жыл бұрын
My hydro system is putting out 832 watts into the grid as I type this. Gravity is a beautiful thing! True story: they person I bought my Coanada screen from 16 years ago was named.....Bob Weir. No, not the Grateful Dead Weir, but another one "a low dam built across a river to raise the level of water upstream or regulate its flow." Kind of the description of a C screen.
@oloyeadeniran8894 Жыл бұрын
What's your setup like and do you have a channel showing your setup?
@portnuefflyer Жыл бұрын
@@oloyeadeniran8894 Not yet...
@OuidaEstep3 ай бұрын
Can you send me pics of your system. Please my name is George estep.
@SnookCowboy Жыл бұрын
Im making a self contained waterwheel generator using a large water storage container for cattle with solar and 2 battery packs to alternate every other evening. Im using 12 volt bilge pumps to move the water over the wheel that'll be spinning 2 alternators. One alternator for main batteries and home inverter. The second will be charging the backup battery for the water wheel as well as topping off current use pack. Couple this with four 450 watt panels to run during peak light and couple the wheel to a ten speed gearing system and I can use a 12 volt gear reduction motor for back up and efficiency. I can control the speed of the wheel/ alternators. Once started, the system should run continuously.
@kendov2883 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for posting this video and thoroughly explaining what each part does! It would be wonderful to have a total price on a system like this, but I managed to get a very rough estimate just by looking up the batteries and the converter. I think the system would recoup it's cost fairly fast, especially if you're a far from the main power lines, it would cost a lot to pay an electrician upfront to get power to the land. My dream is a similar system, Starlink for fast internet access, and enough wattage to power my dream personal mechanic shop!
@Elkatook666 Жыл бұрын
the battery array was really cool , its like a server rack , with all the 'process' nodes connected to one 'head' that feeds data out really clever , great video
@Mr.Fabrication0079 ай бұрын
Nice clear explanation of a working proven system ia rare here, thanks
@nealanthony3482Ай бұрын
Very cool video and system. The skills required to design, build and maintain systems like this are going to become more and more important as the grid starts to evolve into a much more distributed power grid. The use of solar to grid and EV to and from grid is going to be much more common.
@CarmeloSimpson-n3c Жыл бұрын
Great presentation, thank you. Great one...how i wish i can have such setup like this.....
@ThePhlegming4 ай бұрын
Definitely would love to do something along those lines when I have land
@PBeringer Жыл бұрын
This is so joyous to watch! Hehe. Having a private hydroelectric dam was a bit of a childhood dream of mine, during an obsessive phase with dams (and all kinds of civil engineering). We'd drive past farms with quite large dams on family holidays, and visit the real things, which naturally got me thinking, "you could scale that down ... ". So glad it's something people actually do. But I have a point of personal confusion. It generates 3-phase AC ... which is rectified to DC ... to charge batteries ... which discharge DC ... which will then require alternation to 110/240VAC. It seems almost impossible to build more losses into a system. Hehe. Surely the creek flow isn't so intermittent as to allow _require_ batteries (though, they'd be useful in a backup role). Having a transformer for direct conversion to 110/240VAC (and even a 3-phase outlet for any high current requirements) would have to be the ideal setup, right? Even mechanical storage using a flywheel UPS kinda deal seems to make more sense to me. But I have a total of zero training, and even less knowledge in this field, so please forgive the naivety of my questions/comments.
@jonclement Жыл бұрын
You'd be limited to 500 watts of power (ie/ my 1 computer draws 500) without battery and no power during any maintenance. Flywheel? Nope, steer clear of more mechanical storage. That lifepo4 stack would likely run the place for 1 month without water (but I forget how many kw).
@PBeringer Жыл бұрын
@@jonclement Ahh, thanks for that explanation, I've got it now. The battery storage essentially permits an increase in the available power. To someone like me, who doesn't know anything about it, it just seems like so many lossy steps. But now I get the reason(s). Now I'm curious to find out the maximum power anyone's ever generated at the turbine in a similar(ish) micro hydro setup. Doubt it's more than 1kW.
@danjohnson680011 ай бұрын
The alternating current coming out is an uncontrolled frequency which most electrical devices couldn't handle. Conversion to DC and battery gives a several good results.
@HuckleberryJoe4 ай бұрын
@@jonclementI get about 3 days out of my similar battery system, when not running the turbine. The Grow-watt is about 85% efficient. We run a refrigerator, lights, two computers and internet off of our batteries/ inverter. The average US household consumes 12Kwh per day. That’s why so many folks chase 500wh for these systems. 500x24 =12000
@drewmars-zorp Жыл бұрын
Wow that's a nice hydroelectric setup
@MrRhombus3331 Жыл бұрын
What brand micro hydro turbine was the homeowner using? Great looking system and very informational video!
@torg2126 Жыл бұрын
Probably not Whirlpool, it doesn't look like a repurpurposed washing machine 😂
@alexanderjones6383 Жыл бұрын
I wondered if it was a Kris Harbor thing.
@HuckleberryJoe4 ай бұрын
My bet is Langston Alternative Power. Seth and Spencer have been collaborating for a while.
@portnuefflyer Жыл бұрын
My 15 year old coanada box has no air slits, I could put some in easy enough with a skinny wheel cutoff wheel in my grinder. I was under the impression the screen itself was the air intake. I pull mine once a season, usually late summer, and pressure wash off the backside, to get the crud that build up on it. Not sure if it's lichen or similar but it is not quite maintenance free, very close though. Quick and easy to do, takes 15 minutes.
@SilvaDreams8 ай бұрын
Likely alge or just bacterial growth, no such thing as a completely maintenance free system anyways.
@GrowingUpGoudie Жыл бұрын
Very nice system, thanks for sharing.
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! This install was so well designed.
@selwynellison8504 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Guy here in nz uses old smart washing machine motors. Makes them in to generator, is getting 600 watts. But he is getting around 70psi out of stream with quite a large fall. Powered house for under $4000 nz. Marty T is his channel. Been running systems for 16 years
@MrCaldeiraRibeiro Жыл бұрын
Thats true. Very nice channel Marty's ones. And its not just about eletricity or hydro. Plenty of subjects and knowledge.
@selwynellison8504 Жыл бұрын
Hes a very clever guy . Fixing all kinds of stuff
@AlexMadinger3 ай бұрын
Fantastic breakdown. Would love to see a follow up talking about the costs of the componenets.
@davidblake1663 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent video. I'm sure it's all been well thought out by people way more knowledgeable than me, but I have a question regarding the "battery full" scenario: If the turbine goes into near free-spin, and switches to high volt and low current as you said, then there's next to no load on the system. With commercial power stations that's a "no-no." Important and expensive things break in spectacular fashion. I'm sure the box is "smart," but wouldn't it be better to have a servo operated valve to shut down the water flow just to be sure?
@80aj Жыл бұрын
Kris Harbour has a great channel all about this. He is in Whales and he builds his own, and does exactly what you said. He has servos set up that can increase/decrease water pressure and flow to the turbine, and if all hell breaks lose, it can even just dump all the water from a gate valve later. Pretty impressive stuff really.
@davidblake1663 Жыл бұрын
@@80aj Hi, I follow Kris -- great channel. It's nice to see how different folk go about their Hydro set-up.
@portnuefflyer2 ай бұрын
@@davidblake1663 My hydro system has a load controller that senses when the voltage starts to climb above a setpoint, it shunts the power to a dump load (resistors) to keep the turbine from over speeding. Mine does this when the grid goes down, if charging batteries, when the batteries reach float, the same thing would happen.
@wf2v Жыл бұрын
So I guess you are picking up approximately 12 Kwh of energy per day or ~360 Kwh per month. Not bad for free!
@darrenthumbsup28817 ай бұрын
Not exactly free… what was the upfront installation cost and any ongoing maintenance?
@ZS17367 ай бұрын
@@darrenthumbsup2881probably 100 times cheaper than however youd get it from a utility company
@woshi_zuan6 ай бұрын
@@darrenthumbsup2881you also need to know how many years or months it last for it to need maintenance
@woshi_zuan6 ай бұрын
@@darrenthumbsup2881you also need to know that each maintenance doesn't mean you need to replace ALL the things every time there's maintenance. The maintenance might only be a certain component or part that need to be changed. No big deal absolutely worth it.
@riboknongspung8226 Жыл бұрын
Great one...how i wish i can have such setup like this....
@robwhite2282 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic detail in explanation. Thank you sir.
@-Alberto-Bolanos-8 ай бұрын
awesome.... thanks for teach us these technologies
@jedics1 Жыл бұрын
Impressive numbers, he's never paying for power again for the rest of his life, Im never going to be owning the land that could do this but a guy can youtube dream can't he....
@stephenbullock-yn3vh Жыл бұрын
Nice system thanks for sharing the video
@curmudgeinnak2 ай бұрын
Hello Seth. I recently found a small creek that comes off the hill behind out house here in Alaska. It has a pretty good flow rate but is narrow. We would love to create some power to offset the days when solar is to low. We run a 24v system here with a growatt 3000 inverter and two 200ah lithium batteries.On average we use about 5-6amps an hour. I would love to be able to pretty much keep the batteries on float except at times we use more. Is this something that can be done? If I go towards the top of the creek it is around 250' above and 500 yards from the house where I want to create a pond for it to drain into. The creek goes below ground at the base of the hill and does not feed into another body of water. What about rises in the ground? Can this be over come by valves to release air that gets trapped?
@jock8050 Жыл бұрын
Would Y pieces not be more efficient than the T pieces where the water exits the system and hits the generator? Great job on this system in any case well done!! I see a lot of questions on cost but with the way energy prices are always going I would say it would soon pay for itself.
@jonclement Жыл бұрын
I think the generator prefers pressure over volume. So it's likely less turbulent then it seems
@greatdane33433 ай бұрын
Cool setup. Thanks for sharing.
@dcocz3908 Жыл бұрын
I just need to be a home owner now with a free running creek in the backyard
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
Yes that does help.
@wood6454 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Easy to understand.
@gonzo_the_great1675 Жыл бұрын
I note that there is no data between the Midnight charge controller and the batteries? This could result in an overcharge situation. (Though with cautious setting of the max charge voltage, this can be mitgated against, to some extent.) Also, it would be better to have a 3ph breaker on the AC input from the turbine, rather than a on the output DC. Allowing protection/isolation from a failed diode pack. (I won't comment on the beer can heatsink!) Interesting walk around though.
@sckirbyc1 Жыл бұрын
Can you please explain the beer can heat sink? Is it shown at a certain time?
@gonzo_the_great1675 Жыл бұрын
@@sckirbyc1 12:12 (Might be Pepsi?) Enjoy!
@alexevans2891 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the point of the charge controller to automatically know the max potential of the batteries and cut off before it gets there? That's how my (very, very cheap, 10a solar) charge controller works
@gonzo_the_great1675 Жыл бұрын
@@alexevans2891 The charge controller can only (usually) sense battery charge state based on battery voltage. That is ok for lead acid. But unreliable for lithium. The BMS in the batts 'should' keep a record of the accumulated charge and then command the controller as required. My own system does rely on battery voltage, and me keeping a close eye on it. So I am just as guilty. But I wouldn't recomend it for a fit and forget installation.
@alexevans2891 Жыл бұрын
@@gonzo_the_great1675 Got it! I didn't know that about lithium ion. Thanks for the info!
@brendanh5829 Жыл бұрын
Do a shot every time he says ‘homeowner’ 😂
@dronefootage2778 Жыл бұрын
you said to spend your money on the screen but it looks more like the money was spent on all the electronics and battery :) nice setup btw. i'm jealous ;D
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
Those coanda screens are costly... but yes that 30kwh lifepo4 is a LOT of money.
@northseacowboy6 ай бұрын
Really informative content. Inspired now. You remind me a bit of a spoof country and western singer "Scuzz Twittly"
@namAehT Жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance as KZbin randomly recommended this to me, but is this permitted in any way? Most states are protective of the rivers, creeks, and streams that run within them, and for very good reason. Here in Pennsylvania, a friend of my grandfather was looking into replacing the dam on their property and was told that they may only repair or remove it as the state does not allow the construction of new dams without a special permit. Granted this hydro system has far less of an impact than that dam did, but again: states are protective of their waterways.
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
In this state, we have permission to use a percentage of the Creek as long as it returns to the Creek. Farmers also have rights to use a percentage for irrigation. Dams are another story.
@namAehT Жыл бұрын
@@LandtoHouse I see, I assumed that the little concrete weir at the start counted as a dam/obstruction.
@TheDonod Жыл бұрын
ACDC - THUNDERSTRUCKED
@pennguino9137 Жыл бұрын
Micro-Hydro and ICF. So Jelly
@10thAveFreezeOut Жыл бұрын
COANDA FOREVER!
@verbosewater2538 Жыл бұрын
First vid I’ve seen of you. Good content! Subbed.
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. This channel has a wide variety of content.
@brighamc6211 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know whether this is more or less expensive than the 500 watt equivalent of solar panels? I’m assuming it is, and I love that it works at night and cloudy days too.
@bigiron4018 Жыл бұрын
I assume this would cost more yes. But as you said it has its benefits, but requires a significant resource whereas sun is plentiful. But really, since solar only harvests part of the day, you’d need a 1000W system and batteries to get a similar result.
@sknopster5 ай бұрын
"Does anyone know whether this is more or less expensive than [equivalent] solar panels? I'm assuming it is..." You are 100% correct! It is definitely MORE or LESS expensive. (sorry, I could not resist! You said - I am assuming it is... Is more? OR Is less expensive? You left us hanging!)
@Vlaid65 Жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Thanks.
@Tropicsmoker227 ай бұрын
Definitely interested in that battery and inverter system
@Joenzinator Жыл бұрын
12KWh is a little light, so I think I'd run this in combination with some solar panels and get a hybrid charge controller. The consistent power output is nice though. I did some very rough math, and it seems the hydro setup would be about 2x the cost of a solar setup with similar daily output.
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
They also installed a few solar panels. Very wooded valley with little sun and big trees.
@Jameson4327 Жыл бұрын
Impressive system
@kingdarkemКүн бұрын
Wonder if this could work with a well pump feeding it for powering a greenhouse.
@MrRobb-hb7lz Жыл бұрын
great job! what was the total cost of this system?
@ruprectmonkeyboy1856 Жыл бұрын
Many thousands. rule of thumb: $1/W for batteries. $1/W for inverters. $1/W for system charge controllers circuit breakers and wiring. So, there's about $20-25K there, without the hydro equipment.
@MrRobb-hb7lz Жыл бұрын
thank you @@ruprectmonkeyboy1856
@DuBstep115 Жыл бұрын
@@ruprectmonkeyboy1856 Its too small to make any sense, 500W? My neighbour has river running his backyard and his hydro turbine makes 17-21kW I would have just bought solar and batteries with this money
@cyumadbrosummit35347 ай бұрын
All that work, time and money for the power of a couple of solar panels. I admire the diligence it took though.
@LandtoHouse7 ай бұрын
This elderly couple lives so far back in the woods that solar was not much of an option. They live deep in a valley that only has about 4 hours of sun every day and lots of trees on top of that.
@jamesm68177 ай бұрын
solar power only works less than half the time.... this is doing work 24/7
@juanmacias48547 ай бұрын
Solar is pathetic, works for 6 hours a day at most. It is only 17% efficient and cost for a 14KWH system (in 2024, will go up in coming years) with two battery panels is about $70K (Tesla just quoted the system for me - the 2 PowerWalls are $22K). This hydro system is 24X7X365 active and can be made to output much more, for a fraction of the cost of the solar system. I would opt for this solution anytime over solar.
@SlaintheMhath4 ай бұрын
@@juanmacias4854 Depends where you live, in regional Australia rooftop solar is wonderful and there is no stream or creek or elevation to power hydro on flat land.
@juanmacias48544 ай бұрын
@@SlaintheMhath True, but to replace a power station powered by natural gas or nuclear makes no sense. I live in Arizona and have solar. Works good but APS still supplies power to make up for evening hours.
@tianzining Жыл бұрын
the way that system owner kept the generator module is like a super sports car's engine bay!
@HitEmUpruАй бұрын
What will happened if there will stuck rat/snake/fish? Is this happening?
@LandtoHouseАй бұрын
The intake screen prevents that from happening.
@misatzu Жыл бұрын
"In the blue rich mountains East of the Southern part of Western North Carolina ..." - no wait
@lokpok40774 ай бұрын
Thank you
@eharris6347 Жыл бұрын
Very nice Only thing seems like you go through all that The pvc usually last better in the ground or somewhere out of the elements it will get weak and limbs could fall on it , also all that wood even if it is pressure treat isn’t all that Had some pressure treated porch boards it did better than none treated but still it decayed , mainly where the weather got it But I’m thinking probably would have not lasted that long if it was on the ground in the weather
@jimdavies6764 Жыл бұрын
Very clear presentation, thank you. No mention though of the costs. Why not? Also, is the house entirely off the grid, or is this system just for backup? At a constant 500 watts it would generate about 360 kwh/month (which is a bit light for me) and @30¢/kwh would save $108/mo in utility charges. How long does it take a $1,300/yr saving to pay off the investment?
@Justin-C Жыл бұрын
It's not always about being "cheaper than grid power". Grid power might not have been an option at this location, or it might have been $30-50k to run if it were. I can say from experience that battery & inverter setup was probably in the neighborhood of $10-12k, with the hydro setup maybe another $5-10k. 500W or ~12 kWh a day is no joke - that's more power over the course of a year than I use in my single family home. Supplement with solar as needed (and a generator for emergency backup power) and you're gold.
@ruprectmonkeyboy1856 Жыл бұрын
Depends on whether there's mains power available at the site. If you're paying for a long power connection there's a large sunk cost for that. First customer pays, and the connection is not yours. 2nd person in can just tap into it, essentially for free, because it belongs to the utility company.
@gravelydon7072 Жыл бұрын
@@Justin-C Down here if we had hills and water to use, that 500Watts would be just a drop in the bucket. Because the A/C is running almost all the time. Average daily consumption is around 67kWh.
@peoplenewstoday Жыл бұрын
Normally these systems get installed because of a choice. Run electricity to home, paying for poles, etc or go with hydro, solar and wind. A well balanced system can provide total home energy and no taxes paid at all! That’s the most important part.
@Joenzinator Жыл бұрын
@@gravelydon7072 The consistent power is nice though. I could see using one of these in conjunction with a solar array.
@DavidHarrison-n6o Жыл бұрын
Good for you , a great life .
@LandtoHouse Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Filming hydro is fun.
@lukephilpot56602 ай бұрын
Great video!
@javedelectronicsofficial8549 Жыл бұрын
Good job 👍
@Jimmy-ex2ep Жыл бұрын
Great presentation, thank you
@LH2N Жыл бұрын
How much would all of this cost to install?
@joaugustine Жыл бұрын
❤ excellent explanation
@patrickhilley6092 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ArrBee6 Жыл бұрын
Good Vid Mate. Cheers.
@rogermcjunkin5963 Жыл бұрын
Would it be asking too much to find out what the system cost not so much the PVC end of it but from where it comes into the house to the panel thank you very interesting impressive
@robertparale96343 ай бұрын
Really admire. Love it
@BDBrawler77 Жыл бұрын
Very informative thank you
@TakeNoneForTheTeam Жыл бұрын
so well done.
@Stalker90888 ай бұрын
I wish I had a creek at my land :(
@The1stDukeDroklar Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you collected the water into another pipe after it passed through the first generator, how long would it have to run before having enough pressure to go through another generator?
@Justin-C Жыл бұрын
You would need the same amount of elevation 'downhill' from the first turbine to build up that same pressure/head again. For more (hydro) power on this property, it'd be best just to put an extra coanda & pipe in to collect more water right after the first one (if drying up the stream isn't a big concern), down to a second turbine near the first one. That said, dry season might very well mean there's not enough water for 2 turbines (or even 1)... so if any extra power is needed, it'd be better to just supplement with solar.
@peoplenewstoday Жыл бұрын
Loses all its pressure/energy the moment it hits generator.
@thermoblu1 Жыл бұрын
sasquatch sighting at 9:09
@jimvsmij1973 Жыл бұрын
Would it create more pressure and possibly more electricity if the pipe was 6inches from beginning to end?
@Justin-C Жыл бұрын
Setups like this rely more on head/pressure than flow, so no - not really.
@DeanReinhardt7 ай бұрын
when the batteries are full... understanding that you cannot take the load off a turbine, which would cause it to spin free (destroying the bearings), where do you dump this power to keep the resistance?
@ScoopNemeth6 ай бұрын
How can you combine solar power with hydro power? How can that lithium battery tower kick in during the night and overcast days, even though you're using hydroelectric off-grid system. How can you power the whole house with both solar and hydro power together simultaneously at the same time?
@christophergray625 Жыл бұрын
Have you worked with this sort of system in areas that freeze? Do you just disable and drain it during freezing months?
@ninja5672 Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming it doesn't freeze in that area, otherwise this system will need to be buried, or drained for the winter (stop producing). If it never freezes, I don't know why they did not use cheaper s&d pipe for the long 4in run.
@andrewallason4530 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts would be as the water is constantly flowing it should not freeze, but if an area of lower velocity does, around the 😢 screen, the system below is self-draining, so will not be a concern (except for no power being generated).
@DJL587a Жыл бұрын
Great video. I'd love to know what the cost of these hydro systems is.
@ThePyleDriver Жыл бұрын
Shopping for an off grid homesite now - land with reliable water that you have rights too is the biggest expense 😜
@ktmrider7592 Жыл бұрын
I have 8” pvc all the way to my two turbines ( exact turbines as this video ) penstock is 900 ft. I have the exact same battery bank as the video . I have the Schneider 6848 XW Pro inverter, Schneider Charge Controller. And PDP. Two turbines means two runs of wire 400 ft each, two rectifiers, power disconnects etc… I also have 20 solar panels for summer months when 5he creek slows. I also purchased a custom coanda screen and hand built weir. The grand total is right at 35 k
@leebertie57 Жыл бұрын
@@ktmrider7592 Thats not too bad.
@ktmrider7592 Жыл бұрын
@@leebertie57 I have done 100 of the work. That is zero labor costs
@frederickandrea4132 Жыл бұрын
So how much power is needed to power the average home ? I don't think the 10 amps is enough, which is what the video showed as output.
@KenShaffner Жыл бұрын
Looks great. Thanks for sharing
@eric80926 ай бұрын
Hi, could you please explain how can the battery supply power as well as charging?
@Pomaufour Жыл бұрын
Can't we get a cost estimate for the setup ? I guess if it is very remote it is irrelevant, but would be nice to know how much - especially the battery bank - costs
@davek2690 Жыл бұрын
The batteries are $1400 a piece so this is a pretty expensive setup
@cyclicl7312 Жыл бұрын
@@davek2690yeah thats some change for those. Could dummy it up with lead acid or AGM batteries, but would need more and have a shorter life span.