Awful Archaeology Ep. 4: Creationist Footprint Conspiracies

[@m0L3ify]

There once was a man named Baloo Who wrote of a petrified shoe: He looked down at his feet, Found a rock and said "Neat! This must mean the whole world is new!"

[@muirismason3262]

That’s actually really impressive

[@m0L3ify]

@@muirismason3262 Thanks! 😄

[@rexbenny1553]

Allow me to bredlik your poem. my name is baloo i rite of shoes mayd of hard ston look at me feet rok big so neet so vorld is new yes vorld is new i lik the ston

[@Smileythesilent]

Perfect!! 😆

[@sophiachalloner8951]

Noice

[@tbarryvii9900]

The most hilarious thing about Ken ham is that he's actually Australian- you know the country famous for it's insane amount of biodiversity due to it being cut off from the rest of the world for millions of years

[@arche2460]

I love this LMAO

[@MeaKitty]

As an Australian I think I can speak for the rest of the country in saying "You can keep him, we don't want him." We want no association with that crackpot, thank you very much.

[@arche2460]

@@MeaKitty Honestly that's completely valid. I watch a lot of vids about Evangelicals so I've seen some shit about him and...hoo boy. That's a "just throw the suitcase away" situation

[@gingivitis9148]

I don't forget that Australia is right next New Zealand a country with relatively low genetic diversity coz it was basically under water when it split( just like ken thinks that all continents did during the flood all the way back from rodinia)

[@generalgrievous2202]

He also thinks kangaroos got here by riding volcanic rocks thrown into the air by volcanos.

[@shrimpfixing18]

My parents went to the ark once. They almost got kicked out because they couldn’t stop laughing and pointing at things. My mom (a 15 year history teacher) turned a corner and saw a dinosaur in a cage and almost passed out laughing.

[@King_jazz1]

That is wild💀

[@murzkatze]

I like your parents

[@HeatherHolt]

Oh god my dad said his wife is dragging him up there soon to see this horrible thing and I’m like please don’t go…or please take me so I can laugh 😂 his wife is SUPPPPER into conspiracies. Like name one and I bet she’s deep into it. Her, her daughter and her daughter’s husband. I can’t even go hang out with them bc they’re so bad with it, my brain hurts.

[@omkartelang1064]

​@@HeatherHoltwife of your dad? Your mom you mean?

[@CelestialAnamoly]

If I ever went to the ark encounter, i just wanna see Cotylorhynchus.

[@CookieMonster-nt8hh]

"How old is the earth?" "10.000 years" "What's your proof?" "This 210 million year old rock" Yep, your average creationists logic

[@VitaTheMerm]

Real

[@Skag_Sisyphus]

I like to argue that the earth is only six hours old when faced with creationists. Edit: ive only met three in person and only argued it to the two after an insufferable lyft ride gave me the idea, but it was very satisfying both times

[@brídeann]

@@Skag_Sisyphus what's your evidence against the fact that all our memories happened in two seconds, and the world is in fact two hours old?

[@spacetofu19]

@@brídeann What's your evidence that I did "infact" give you a foot massage while you were sleeping?

[@enzoarayamorales7220]

⁠@@brídeannwhat’s your evidence against the fact that time earth existed may be shorter

[@27BLUSH]

As a former cobbler, that inner band of "thread" would be Blake stitching, which wasn't possible until 1856 when the machine necessary was invented. Stitched shoes made before 1500 were turn shoes, which would have had all stitching contained within the shoe. Also, the spot where the foot supposedly wore through the heel does not look like the wear that actually happens.

[@faameexplains1192]

Looks like wear on an insole not the impression of an outsole

[@GoodWormDoctor]

Young earth creationist foot theory destroyed by former Cobbler with facts and knowledge

[@bigbeefscorcho]

I love this! You don’t even have to be a proper scientist, even a cobbler can poke holes in this fools’ evidence! But they’ll never listen

[@ScumsaveChris]

Stop trying to confuse people with facts.

[@gazeboist4535]

@@bigbeefscorcho Science isn't a set of facts and recipes, it's an attitude. Saturn here clearly has an excellent grasp on the science of shoes, which is the thing about discipline crossover: it's absurdly hard to predict.

[@trumpetwizard7250]

There once was a man named Ballou, Claimed he found a petrified shoe. He woke up one night, Realized with a fright, His brain cells were painfully few.

[@jonnymcjonjon8714]

I see the reference 😉😉

[@kninenights]

Love it

[@zeo3548]

the man named Ballou who thought he'd found a petrified shoe turned a bright red hue when he woke up that night realizing with a fright that his brain cells truly were few

[@TsarNicholasII5437]

You win

[@shelbylynn9]

Oh man, this is beautiful. Spot on 👌

[@TalenLee]

Ken Ham, an Australian export, tried to build his facility here in Australia, and we told him he could do that but he couldn't call it a museum because it misrepresents the word 'museum,' so he threw a tantrum and went to do it in Kentucky.

[@Fallen7Pie]

AND Rupert Murdoch. Is America your prison colony now?

[@TalenLee]

@@Fallen7Pie Yeah we uh, let's see kicked out Rupert Murdoch, if by that you mean, 'let him leave with giant piles of money we gave him' so he could uh languish in America, and by that we mean Britain, putting tits in the newspapers, THEN move to America to found Fox news and make EVEN MORE MONEY. LIke y'all can blame us but I think it's just that scum knows where to float

[@dungeonbrush8982]

As a native born Kentuckian, the Ken Ham nonsense is a source of pure shame for most of us.

[@TalenLee]

@@dungeonbrush8982 yeah, Sorry about that. He went where there were tax incentives and people he could bilk, based on my dealings with the man

[@Rob-fc9wg]

@@Fallen7Pie You can keep that hidious old bastard too!

[@BwooHuraca]

Apparently the poll suggesting that 40% of Americans are young-earth creationists was flawed in that it rolled two questions into one, the other being "do you believe God created man?" prompting participants to answer "yes" based on belief in God alone. When the survey was reproduced to *only* ask if the Earth was less than 10,000 years old it dropped down to about 18%. This was in an article from 11 years ago so I don't know if it increased or decreased since then.

[@Robb1977]

makes me feel a bit better. from my experience more of my family believes in this stuff than 10 years ago, but theyre also getting old and senile.

[@minecraftnerd2175]

I guess that's a bit better, but almost one in five is still insane

[@XSniper74184]

Ah, thanks for doing the footwork there, I was curious about what the actual question asked was.

[@Alfonso162008]

Thank you for doing the proper research around this. Like a previous commenter said, 18% is still insane, but I refused to believe that almost half of all american people believed in this nonsense.

[@wolfiemuse]

I suspect the number is much lower, maybe at best 5-7%. I think if you, point blank, asked every person in a study, “Do you believe the Earth was created 6000 years ago?” I think most would say no.

[@Tinymoezzy]

My neighbor was a young earther. I was 15 and said "we have this great soil here because this area was a glacier over 2.5 million years ago" my dad was there and looked so proud of me and my neighbor just said "kids, *shakes head* the earth is no more than 10,000 years old" my dad took me inside our house because I laughed and that was rude. I love these videos.

[@lolloblue9646]

We should reward this kind of rudeness

[@doncomputer5931]

@@lolloblue9646 In fact, I think It's your civic Duty to make sure a Flat Earther's World views are not well-respected. The more introverted they become, the less likely they are to throw up their putrid religion onto the rest of the world.

[@dogwalker666]

It's not rude to laugh at the YEC cult.

[@gamerziplays6181]

i feel like the only thing your father did wrong was not laugh with you

[@johniec5282]

I see, a six-day camp member voicing his opinion. You are entitled to laugh, but not too hard.

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

There once was a man named Ballou, Who found a "petrified shoe". He said, "This here is proof That evolutions a spoof!" And thus the conspiracy grew.

[@gdude2775]

This is great

[@helluvagooddrawer2027]

You mind if i illustrate it?

[@eyesofdeath01]

amazing work, person! (didn’t want to misgender you so I don’t get sent to internet hell)

[@andrewshepherd1537]

​@eyesofdeath01 clearly, they aren't a person. They are a dog. Because "I'm not a dog" is exactly what a dog would say.

[@thelivingjukebox8467]

bravo!

[@Urlocalpope]

My dad is a young earth creationist and it’s like talking to a brick wall with him. “Carbon dating doesn’t date down to the second so it doesn’t work at all” “the earliest writing was Hammurabi’s code (that’s not true at all) cave paintings don’t count” *I show him evidence* “that’s fake they fudge the numbers” and so on. The worst part is that he talks down to me and says I don’t know anything because I’m younger than him. I tell him I actively study anything so I probably know a bit more than him on that specific subject and it’s “oh so you know everything.” He literally told me that when I corrected him on something with music and he doesn’t even know what a scale is. Or the difference between notes and chords. I play 9 instruments. I took music theory for 6 years like!?!

[@outdoorscholar6016]

I’m so sorry that your dad is a POS, I can’t imagine what that would be like. I met people like that in college, and all of them came from the Christian ministry that I was part of the time. There was one guy in particular who flat out proclaimed that “there is nothing that you could show me that would shake my faith” when he was being presented with a scientific fact about the Earth. Another guy went from being a geology major to young earth creationist because he discovered the church.

[@Urlocalpope]

@@outdoorscholar6016 dude he tried to argue that someone was singing “off key” when he could not explain what a key was. They weren’t singing off key, the quality of the instrumental recordings and the quality of the vocal recording were different so the vocals hid among the instrumentals and he isn’t used to that so it was suddenly “off key” despite them both being in the key of Em. He was like “you don’t know what you’re talking about” bitch you don’t even know what middle c is. He also thinks minor notes are “off key”

[@phantomkate6]

Probably best to just let it go eh?

[@Urlocalpope]

@@phantomkate6 I can’t I don’t move out till the end of the month and he bring it up all the time

[@phantomkate6]

@@Urlocalpope This month? You're nearly there!!! 🙌

[@sspsp6545]

I grew up with Creationism. I read Creation magazine and Answers in Genesis. I’m one semester away from obtaining a degree in biology, with a focus in evolutionary biology and microbiology. My first year in university was brutal. There was so much that I “should remember from high school.”. The thing is my 12 grade bio class was basically a YEC apologetics course. I really struggled my first year, but I eventually made up for my lack of knowledge. I had long since rejected Creationism and Christianity, but I started school at a stark disadvantage.

[@EIBozo]

Congrats, good luck with school!

[@pocketrocket1995]

Praying for you

[@semaj_5022]

I don't know you, but I'm proud of you! Keep up the great work!

[@deewreltih2124]

Did you finish that last semester?

[@teifan6674]

It's incredible you not only managed to dig yourself out of that, but get a biology degree on top of that. You should be incredibly proud of yourself

[@Suusleepy]

Whenever someone asks "Were you there when God created earth?" I say Yes! Because what are they gonna do, deny it? They weren't there

[@judyfps5059]

Then once they deny it you say “ you just gotta have faith.”

[@babydahl9424]

Ya know...I kinda want to do this now.

[@Suusleepy]

@@babydahl9424 once you realize how much you can say "Yes" to a conservative about the much more fun it is arguing with them

[@kyleellis1825]

Whenever someone brings up the 9/11 conspiricies, how Bill Gates wants to micro chip the world, or any of these religious conspiricies, just make one even crazier up. "You think planes crashed into the Tradecenter? That was a Russian spy on the space station who used the space lazer to try starting a war" "Bill Gates died in '98 (last good Microsoft operating system). But the microchip he put in his brain let him survive as a robot and he wants to make the rest of the world immortal. But we being stubborn." "Immaculate conception just meant God didn't make a mess on Mary's face. She swallowed."

[@M50A1]

@@Suusleepy Honestly I'm adding this tactic to my list of tactics now

[@tantilist1449]

I actually was at a presentation of Ken Ham. At the end I asked him, "where did all the dinosaurs go?" He replied, "We hunted them to extinction."

[@madtabby66]

I watched my chickens with a mouse once. I was just "whoa, I think I just watched velociraptors with a small mammal!" That poor mouse. It was a horrible way to go. They tore it apart.

[@guilhermecastro9893]

@@madtabby66 bad joke and yes chickens are geneticly related to dinos

[@phantomkate6]

Om nom nom

[@hifensity99]

the funny thing is that if we were able to kill them, we would've hunted them to extinction if they tasted good

[@davidlee2221]

We hunted apex predators into extinction? YECs have never left their house.. (tonality edit)

[@cathipalmer8217]

I graduated from a private Christian college in south Georgia. We were taught evolution in biology. When a divinity major in my class challenged this our teacher said, "Personally, I find it a great testimony of God's love for His creations that he built into them the ability to adapt to their environment."

[@OptimusPhillip]

That is brilliant.

[@maryhamric]

Agree. God is a Creator and is Creative. Creation is a reflection of God. Creation is not static and never has been --not in art, music or animals, earth or plants, etc, etc, etc.

[@zap4th368]

There is also the fact that god wrote the rules. If he wished he could basically set everything up and let it work itself out, only stepping in when necessary.

[@Toubabou]

Obviously, he never read The Origin of Species 😂

[@Kaleki935]

​@@Toubabou you mean... the barebones blueprint for adaptable life, with specific parameters for one to be significantly better than the rest? Seems like intelligent design to me rather than random happenstance. Side note; I love how all our "common ancestors" tend to have literally one account, which leads us to computer generate no less than 80% of the creature through guesswork. Deterioration and mutations just don't exist when you need to shift the population from intelligent, religious men to animalistic atheists screeching at any mention of Christianity, I suppose.

[@anakintalks7082]

As a Texan who went to dinosaur valley once as a family outing, it was obviously about cool dinosaur stuff but also it was about the fact that you can play and run about the river and bring your dog

[@timgil7830]

I love the "were you there" argument. Because I can just say "yes" and wait for them to disprove it.

[@wolfclaw3366]

then when they try to say that you weren't you can turn it around and say "well were you there to prove that i wasn't"

[@EmilyKveldulv]

@@wolfclaw3366 Yeah, its a thought-stopping tactic, like those used by cults. Because that's what creationism is.

[@sarahcole9661]

My response: “I dunno, smart guy, were _you_?”

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

@@sarahcole9661 you gotta have a space one either side of the _ for it to do the intended effect. It makes things look stupid sometimes, but that's _how it works_ .

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

*_If you want you can put the things outside the punctuation._*

[@dionysus6892]

One of my favorite stupid things ever is the sentence “Dinosaur bones are falsifications buried in the Earth by Satan to confuse the righteous.”

[@jackback70]

It’s the same ”logic“ that conspiracy theorists, like flat earthers use, ”the government is showing us false information to hide the truth“…

[@kn2x392]

I’m Christian and I agree that is so dumb😭😭 dinosaurs were described in the Bible possibly by leviathans

[@basementdwellercosplay]

Isn't that quote used as a joke in Good Omens, it could also be a belief some have, but something similar is in Good Omens

[@Sigma-xb6kn]

@@basementdwellercosplay Not exactly. "The whole business with the fossilized dinosaur skeletons was a joke the paleontologists haven't seen yet."

[@GuiSmith]

@@Sigma-xb6kn It’s honestly my favourite part of Good Omens. In some way, it has more world building than the Bible in its first few paragraphs and Genesis literally starts with the story of creation.

[@SeraSmiles]

There once was a man named Ballew, Who found the petrified print of a shoe. Despite it's great age & clear lack of such traits, He decided the print was brand new.

[@CRT.v]

Thank you for finishing the limerick!

[@orsettomorbido]

COOL limerick! Nice job! A note: its shoud be written "Baloo".

[@ludiprice]

@@orsettomorbido Agree!

[@savionhathorn6945]

@@orsettomorbido Normally I'd agree with you, but at 10:00 it's actually spelled as Ballou interestingly enough. Who knows we could all be wrong and its Buhlue hehe

[@MikkiPike]

Gorgeous work T^T

[@shelbreezyfebreezy7544]

My family are HARD-CORE creationists I was a documentary kid and obsessed with dinosaurs to the point that i wanted to study archeology One of my most distinct memories was arguing with one of my uncles - he was convinced that dinosaur bones were plaster casts hidden in the desert by the chinese government to trick people into aetheism I have had the argument of human evolution with SO many people in this area on human evolution and had to try to explain how carbon dating is a legitimate method of basic dating Exhausting

[@coledalton8113]

A lot of my family is anti vax so I feel you

[@gayraccoon353]

ASKNAUINSOSUSNQOA WHY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT THO??? OMG

[@shelbreezyfebreezy7544]

@gayraccoon353 the extended family is pretty racist My husband is Asian and they called him a lot of slurs when he met them I haven't seen them in like 10 years

[@adaroben1104]

​@@gayraccoon353 Because capitalism is godly and communism is satanic or something

[@somerandomblueperson3996]

there once was a man named baloo, who found a petrified shoe, he stepped on the rock, said "hey that's a shock", and then went home for a poo

[@kamion53]

home?? I though bears did sh*t in the woods.😛 👏👏👏

[@octopusbeak42069]

Why did I read this like it was ragnar the red from skyrkm. *edit*Skyrim, I cant spell.

[@sophianicole513]

my guy i laugghed so hard i burped

[@zahuntah]

A+

[@dogburgled]

Yes.

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

My only complaint with you channel is that there isn’t enough for me to binge for hours and hours lol keep it up man you’re fantastic

[@miniminuteman773]

That is the highest compliment I could ever receive

[@FireWarrior2013]

@@miniminuteman773 you bring a great level of energy and prior research that make your videos equal parts factual and entertaining. Truly excited to see more from you as time goes on!

[@PlutocracyLP]

@@miniminuteman773 have you considered bringing more of your tiktok content over?

[@lucky13th31]

@@miniminuteman773 my only problem is that you pronounced Nevada, NevUda

[@petrogradadministration2310]

@@miniminuteman773 saw your second video right after it came out had the same feeling as the first guy

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

Former creationist here. Seeing all my old arguments still being used is like cringing at old pictures of my bad 90’s haircut.

[@Zarmdthecoolest]

AYYYY SAMEEEEEE

[@WasatchWind]

I'm not sure what to call myself. Perhaps a "I believe God created the Earth but I personally don't take a position on how He did it or really care." Teach the science correctly, and don't let obsession over trying to interpret Genesis or Noah's Ark, etc, distract from the purpose of scripture to instruct spiritually, that is the way I operate.

[@LilyCelebiFlipnote]

@@WasatchWind Not-sarcastic clapping. Good take. I'm an atheist, but believe that if you're religious or spiritual, it can fill the gaps of the unknown that creates anxiety without being something you argue against verified scientific discovery with. It can be really helpful for coping with really tough topics for all of us, like death, and all of the little things that come up that just seem "odd" or "wiggy" that you can't really prove with science. Like... in childhood, I once found that a toy had seemingly duplicated overnight! No kidding. I can't explain that one with science to this day. It can also be helpful as a set of moral guidelines. I find that most of the religious morals that are taught that I've seen are relatively harmless. The "treat others how you want to be treated" or "Golden Rule" and the "love thy neighbor" and "brotherhood" and "God loves all his children" are good examples of that, when taken at face value. It's inevitable that everyone in this life has anxiety over all that is unknown to them, and it's perfectly okay to fill that void with spiritualism, religious belief, and community from either of those things. What isn't okay is spreading complete misinformation, especially for a political or economic agenda, knowingly or unknowingly. That's propaganda, and that's sinister.

[@xXEGPXx]

@@WasatchWind The correct term for that is agnostic theist.

[@WasatchWind]

@@xXEGPXx No, I am not agnostic, simply my church thinks it is not the point of religion to obsess over scientific matters. There are intersections of course, but though moral religious teachings may help us practice science ethically, and professional psychological and medical science can help aid people in their life struggles, I believe we should be careful to not let either speak too authoritatively for the other field. I believe that science and religion are simply two sides of the same greater truths - but that we currently have an imperfect knowledge of both.

[@Machinereplica]

I found your video after a YEC brought up these Texas tracks, which I had never heard of. Great video, I enjoyed it. Your reply to the senior archeologist in regards to the so called "Baghdad Battery" was also a good watch. As an animal science major I have to say that most animals do walk on their toes, not just horses. Most animals with paws, anything with hooves, birds, and a good number of other invertebrates. It's really the vertebrates that do walk on their heels which are weird.

[@bestpoubelle5332]

I was raised in a very conservative household. I was homeschooled for the majority of my life. I recall watching Ken Ham videos as part of my "science" education. The only reason I got way from those views was because I attended university. As an adult, I am still working on unlearning the nonsense I was taught. This video very much blasted me into my own past but also made me realize how much progress I have made since I started. Thank you for that.

[@Clytemnestra610]

Congratulations for making it out of that!! Hope you're doing well in reteaching yourself!

[@bestpoubelle5332]

@@Clytemnestra610 I am, thank you! I'm very lucky to have a partner who had a more traditional education than myself. They are helping me unlearn the fantasy I was taught and are helping me be more critical of information in the future.

[@kadeorade5296]

Man all of that is the same for me except that instead of attending university making me realize it was bs, it was that i became friends with someone and somehow managed to not try to convert them before they got me thinking about literally anything that wasn’t the same shit I’d heard repeated forever. Realizing that dinosaurs not only existed, but got wiped out by the whole mass extinction event was crazy. And that there was stuff out in space, and it wasn’t just an inclosed space with concrete walls that god was right outside of. I don’t like that I know so much less than any ‘normal’ person about science, but it really is great to see how much I’ve relearned in whatever amount of time.

[@MichaelAChristian1]

Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be SAVED! Jesus loves you! Get a king james bible and believe. Read Matthew. Read 1 John 4.

[@Clytemnestra610]

@@MichaelAChristian1 yeah... Not the best place for this, bud

[@ethannelson8592]

I’ve been to the creation evidence museum twice. They’ll kick you out if you take pics of the interior of the museum, ask non-biblical questions, point out scientific problems in the literature, and pretty much anything you go to the museum to do lol.

[@tacticallemon7518]

so, don’t ask questions, and accept the brainwashing Ironic

[@Damian-cilr2]

So that is a museum that you can't do anything you would do in a museum? Instant 0 stars from me

[@jacobgoodstone7572]

They can't risk having any of their followers realize how completely wrong creationism is

[@mushu_beardie2556]

I bet it really pisses them off when you tell them that other museums aren't afraid of questions--and that they actually encourage them. They love questions at the natural history museum.

[@karifaevt]

Simple, it isn't a museum, it is an indoctrination device to a cult of thought.

[@Annimations]

So one thing I just love about living near glen rose is if you go to Dino valley park, they have signs directly across from the creationist museums saying “not factual ->” and the creationist museum can’t do anything about it because it’s not on their property. And every park ranger immediately comes and fact checks any tour the creationist museum try’s to do within the park. We really like to swim there so we like to sit back watch the daily Dino drama. Because it IS daily. Like it’s an active feud. And if you think Dino valley is the only science center in glen rose who has beef with the creationists you’d be wrong. Fossil rim, a zoo/ conservation breeding ranch also has beef with them over a Noah’s arc incident where the creation museum asked fossil rim if they could borrow animals for an event. Were told no. And then took the animals anyway. How? Well fossil rim is surrounded by private property ranches. And sometimes the animals get out and you’ll just have like a zebra in your lawn. Private residents can get into a program that pays them to allow the animals to graze when this happens cause it happens so much that doing this wastes less resources. Just let it graze and then round them up later. But you’re supposed to report the animal to fossil rim so they know where the animal is. Well the creationist museum started posing as fossil rim and doing other shady stuff to come collect the animals and return them to fossil rim. But in reality they were just storing them on one guys ranch to prep for the Noah event. This was years ago and ever since fossil rim and Dino valley have teamed up to collectively beef the creationist museum and try and run it out of town. And good. It’s really preachy and boring.

[@Annimations]

The one thing I hate about living near glen rose is the nuclear fallout drills because pretending like we won’t be immediately toasted out of reality if the nuclear plant fails is such a waste of time. I can hide under my desk all I want. The radiation doesn’t care.

[@MichaelAChristian1]

They are DESPERATE to stop people from hearing the TRUTH. Jesus loves you! Read John. Read Genesis. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be SAVED!

[@KarakTo]

@@MichaelAChristian1 Borrowing the animals without permission is the same as stealing. I believe there's a commandment against that.

[@MichaelAChristian1]

@@KarakTo What are you talking about? They are the ones hiding what was found on glen rose.

[@carlosnava1471]

Me when ""they"" hide the """"truth""""

[@LilRedWitch]

As a Christian who believes in science and is not a young earth creationist believer, I appreciate this video so much. 👌🏻

[@GamesWorkshopsFlyingCircus]

As a huge dinosaur nerd, the thing that triggered me the most is the young earth creationists portrayed the CARNOTAURUS. The "MEAT EATING BULL," eating bananas. Not the small, starchy, wild ones either. Fully grown, yellow bananas.

[@TheMasqueradeParty.]

me too- i was- SO upset. it has *MEAT EATING* IN THE _NAME_ -Anon

[@joshc5613]

I've read that book and their explanation is just... "Every living thing was an herbivore before Adam and Eve got exiled from the garden of Eden", which they explain by... saying that some animals with teeth similar to carnivores eat only plants (like pandas). It's pretty ridiculous lol

[@drs-xj3pb]

"Carnotaurus" would be "meat-bull" -- no eating involved. At least in the name.

[@GamesWorkshopsFlyingCircus]

@@drs-xj3pb Okay, thanks for the correction. But the teeth...

[@mamasimmerplays4702]

@@joshc5613 The Noah story happened quite some time after Adam and Eve got kicked out, though. So even if that story were true, the carnivores would have been eating meat by the time of Noah.

[@robertabarnhart6240]

If real dinosaur-age human footprints were found, particularly if they were shoeprints, I would take that as evidence of time-travel, not creationism.

[@peggedyourdad9560]

Fr, even though creationism is obviously not real and, as far as we know, neither is time travel, It makes more sense for the supposed footprint to be used as evidence in support of time travelers than as evidence of creationism.

[@ranjithperimpulavil2950]

Well said, bro😄👍👍👍

[@slicedtoad]

Wouldn't aliens be more likely than time-travel? An extraterrestrial visit in the distant past could have been careful enough to leave basically no evidence behind. If we assume some kind of 'explore but don't interfere with life' motivation. But erasing their footprints in the mud would be a bit much. And while we never expect timetravel to be viable, we _do_ expect life to have evolved on different planets.

[@peggedyourdad9560]

@@slicedtoad This sounds like the premise for an amazing sci-fi novel.

[@paveantelic7876]

nah, alien shoes are more believable. time travel is science fiction

[@carissasherman8553]

I used to work for the creation museum, and I can tell you that Ken Ham did not care about his employees. Any day he came to the museum was a nightmare. He'd specifically look for things that he could find "wrong" with something we were doing and then berate the managers about it. Also he refused to allow us to wear masks in the beginning of 2020, and wouldn't close the doors until he was forced. That man does not believe in the "sanctity of human life" when it comes to those who work under him.

[@hazeld3703]

I know someone who worked there, and they also said it was a shitty, toxic place to work

[@StoutShako]

**looks at your bi pride pfp** 🤝 Shout out to all my homies that were once indoctrinated and now gay as all hell

[@peggedyourdad9560]

One question though, why? Why work there of all places? I’m genuinely wondering here.

[@carissasherman8553]

@@peggedyourdad9560 I was heavy drinking the Christian Kool aid at the time. I was in Bible college in a school nearby, so I needed a job that would accommodate the school rules I was under (can't wear pants as a woman, can't work Sundays) and the museum favored people from my school because they were both fundamentalist Christian establishments. Thankfully I'm far away from all of that now.

[@peggedyourdad9560]

@@carissasherman8553 Oh ok, that makes a lot of sense actually. I’m glad you seem to have stepped away from that, at least enough to realize that the Bible is more for spiritual guidance than an accurate explanation for anything in the physical realm.

[@raphaeldagamer]

The Earth can't be 10,000 years old because the Autobots and Decepticons crash landed on Earth 4,000,000 years ago. This is what it sounds like when someone justifies their argument against yours with a piece of contemporary fiction, as opposed to particularly ancient fiction, which is what creationists use. The difference is that creationists are wrong, whereas I'm right, but for the wrong reasons.

[@gustavgnoettgen]

I once found a tiny human footprint. Like baby sized but in the shape of an adult foot. Probably fairies or aliens. 1. It didn't have toes but who needs those. 2. It didn't look like a foot, but it sorta did. 2. It was a piece of slag from the nearby iron works.

[@gracenantaya8394]

You had me at first

[@gustavgnoettgen]

@@gracenantaya8394 I realize that I labeled two points "2."

[@AEHTSCH]

@Gustav I didn't

[@tinyetoile5503]

@@gustavgnoettgen Honestly, that makes it funnier.

[@jonhohensee3258]

@@gustavgnoettgen - So why not fix it?

[@charlestownsend9280]

"Built to all of the speciations in the bible." Including sprinklers, metal bolts, air conditioning and electric lighting, plus a massive concrete building that holds it together.

[@GoodWormDoctor]

Yes, we all know Noah didnt wanna piss off OSHA

[@Nick-mp1zh]

My favorite part is that they think that 8 people took care of what they think would've been 15 000 different animals on that boat for an entire year. They have a zoo attached to the ark, and they have 8 zookeepers for taking care of only about 200 animals.

[@gobblinal]

@@Nick-mp1zh What did they feed the carnivores? Or the herbivores? Or the omnivores? How did they store the fresh water animals? Or the salt water animals? Since that much flooding surely would've disrupted the salinity world-wide?

[@Nick-mp1zh]

Not to mention the Ark only had one small window, for ventialtion so they all would've died from methane poisoning

[@charlestownsend9280]

@@Nick-mp1zh my favourite part is that they have to keep repairing the ark for rain damage.

[@birchcakes]

So a bit of a fun fact about that "Noah's arc replica" is that during construction it was found that actually building an arc that could float with the given specifications was impossible even with modern machinery and techniques. They had to abort the plans for making it a bronze-age boat replica and instead made it a building shaped like a boat with modern concrete and steel to get it to support its own weight. So they accidentally thoroughly debunked the idea that Noah's Arc ever actually happened, but they made sure to deny that publicly as much as possible.

[@Xenon_001]

Wow, it's almost like that Noah's ark wouldn't have been possible without SOME sort of external help, I wonder what that could have been.

[@astreaward6651]

Hilariously, the Ark Encounter was damaged a while back and they sued to get help to repair it. It was damaged in a FLOOD.

[@petermoss4666]

Another thing I want to add, It took 100-200 people 10-12 YEARS to build the "ark" replica using MODERN equipment. in the book it was supposedly done by ~ 10-14 people in 47 years with BRONZE AGE tools. Good FUCKING luck building the same boat with a 47 year deadline with only a half school bus worth of people to help using only bronze tools.

[@artsyscrub3226]

@@astreaward6651 Irony so poetic i could almost cry

[@P4rz1va1]

@@Xenon_001 funny how you should mention that considering God explicitly DIDN'T help.

[@zackr171]

I just want to take a moment to personal thank you dude. I love your videos but I put off watching this for ages because given the way this discourse usually goes online. I was fully expecting a significant portion of the 28 min runtime to be dedicated to bashing on Christianity as a faith rather than criticizing the young earth creationist movement that is only a part of that greater social group. To hear you vocalize the fact that not all Christians have drunk the kool-ade of this modern ultra-right wing extremist version of "Christianity" and even go so far as to ask your fans in the comments to make that same distinction was like a breath of fresh air, and I am personally deeply grateful.

[@LMF1716]

There once was a man named Baloo Who had found a petrified shoe But to his chagrin There were no facts within So creation was not proven true

[@andrearupe8094]

I like it! ✌

[@yourfellowlifeform2933]

10:00 it’s spelled Ballou apparently. loved the poem tho! great work :)

[@cocolocobirb981]

@@yourfellowlifeform2933 Baloo is the bears name

[@yourfellowlifeform2933]

@Cocolocobirb I know, we are talking about the person. Not the bear from the Jungle Book

[@jaded_gerManic]

This is my favorite one yet! 😁👍

[@ericjones9487]

My father gave old Carl Baugh such a thorough interrogation during his Q&A session he used to end the Creation Museum tours with that he angrily quit the session early and walked off into his private office. We went back exactly a year later to learn he no longer did any live tours and all exhibits have ever since had pre-recorded audio files explaining them. I will always believe that my asshole father can always be proud that he harassed one prominent Creationist into shutting up.

[@michelewalburn4376]

That's something to be very proud of.

[@StrangeLuv117]

Sir I ask that you stop calling my hero an asshole

[@s_mp_08]

Your father is dope 👌🏼

[@fancyincubus]

I would like to run for president just so i can shake both of your hands

[@simoklownz2267]

All hail your father!

[@eflarsen]

AND HE RETURNED JUST AS THE WORLD NEEDED HIM MOST!! I found this channel and binged everything and have been checking back every single day for the past week or so, waiting for the next episode. Your videos are really well-researched and well-presented. Can't wait to see how you grow on youtube! initially found you on TikTok.

[@TSSmith]

Ditto

[@stabbymcstabberson8]

How did you comment this BEFORE the vid came out?!?

[@stabbymcstabberson8]

@Xavierraptor oh yeah I forgot that’s a thing

[@lara-ce2kg]

Yup same here I have been waiting on the next video for weeks.

[@ID-mo3ok]

These episodes are the best I've seen in a long time. they are informative and funny. But the most important thing is that you can be understood even if you don't speak English very well. you speak very clearly and distinctly. Thanks for that.

[@morgandavison1049]

Late to the party here, but I have a fun fact for you regarding horses (horse feet is my job). Horses' front "knees" are actually parallel structures to our wrists. Below that structure is one big metacarpal bone with a smaller vestigial metacarpal bone on each side. We call them metacarpal 3, and mc 2 and 4, respectively. Metacarpal 3 is our middle finger. So horses are constantly flipping the bird.

[@PFMediaServices]

"horse feet is my job" made me laugh. You're awesome.

[@katherineguevara4430]

How cool do you have to be to have “Horse feet job” on your resume.

[@uwukotoa]

horses are some of the dumbest designed animals ever and i love them so much. you look at them the wrong way and all of their legs break. would love to have horse feet as my job.

[@borttorbbq2556]

So what Is the job? Do you trim their hooves?

[@techpriestemily]

@@uwukotoa Sneeze in the same zip code as a horse and it just... explodes.

[@ohioman4646]

Ex-protestant here. One time, my church did a month long sermon series about these feet, and how they are irrefutable. Watching this was like medicine

[@muchotexto4248]

A month talking about footprints? Those fellas are THIRSTY for solid things to throw at doubters

[@Yoma_all]

They thirsty for feet🧍

[@endig4501]

@@muchotexto4248 or just thirsty for feet.

[@Debilitator47]

@@endig4501 I have a new business idea for feetshakes. Must develop further. Gonna need an industrial size blender...and some land out in the woods...for...business science...

[@micahfoley9572]

Feet aren't real. Suckers.

[@alexgossett4349]

Hey! Great video. I'm actually a Christian pastor from Kentucky, and i have spent much of my career pushing back on the idea that young earth creationism is the only way to be "truly Christian". I loved your quote that it is a lot easier to construct facts around beliefs than it is to construct beliefs around facts. Who knows, that might make its way into a sermon one day

[@mamasimmerplays4702]

I think the thing American "Christians" really need to be talking about is what Ezekiel said about why Sodom got nuked, and what that means for the wealthiest country in the world when it has no care for the poor and needy at its gates - either its own citizens or refugees turning to it for shelter. If you don't heal the sick, shelter the homeless, and feed the hungry, you don't get to call yourself Christian. And this does include using your vote to demand that your governments at all levels work to heal the sick, shelter the homeless, and feed the hungry. It's not rocket science!

[@johns1625]

Awesome! 👍🙏

[@sspsp6545]

@@johns1625at least you’re being intellectually honest. I don’t envy your position.

[@tommydaniels1805]

Be honest; THIS SUNDAY

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

I think that would work great in a sermon! Go for it!

[@raneemrashid6439]

I'm a sleep deprived science guy that was born and raised in a cult. Idk if I should trust in this man just because he's funny, but I'll allow myself joy today ❤ thanks for the content KZbin guy

[@mamasimmerplays4702]

Trust is a strong word in science. If what he says makes sense and fits with your existing understanding of how the world works, then you can hold it as a working thesis. Everything we know is open to being debunked by newer better evidence - but it had better be GOOD evidence!

[@Coolkid99880]

I think the fact that he provides links and evidence of his research and has years of experience as well as going on site to a lot of locations makes him a pretty trustworthy source. The fact that he encourages others to do their own research and has corrected himself multiple times also adds to it. I don’t trust people who aren’t willing to look at themselves and accept change or accept that they’re wrong. Of course you shouldn’t believe everything on the internet (and I’m not forcing you to trust in anything) but from the evidence we’ve seen Milo is pretty open and factual in his statements and puts a lot of time and effort into his research before making videos like this. Which is better than most people.

[@minowilovemypet]

you should probably get therapy if not obviouslly and start to trust people in your own paces

[@nunyabiznis3595]

The BEST moment in creationist lore is the Ken Ham interview where Ken is asked by Bill Nye "Why didn't you build the Ark from wood?" His answer is priceless. "It was designed as a ship but built as a building" and "We didn't design it to float because there won't be another global flood"

[@sambradley9091]

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT

[@The_Bird_Bird_Harder]

@@sambradley9091 That is actually the crux of the story of Noah's ark yes. How is this a gotcha? I don't like him. But I genuinely do not get it. Wait shit you guys are referring to climate change aren't you.

[@adaroben1104]

The thing about boats is that they are not meant to be on land, they need balanced support in water. It makes sense that you can't construct it the same as an actual boat would be... not that it makes the ark itself more likely to work as a boat.

[@WezelLispProductions]

There once was a man named Baloo, And he found a petrified shoe. Upon further inspection, And minute detection; Milo proved his theory untrue

[@thehellyousay]

this is the best one so far ...

[@Gatsu_Gambino]

Stop copying peoples comments... youll never be famous and nobody likes you

[@TheIdiotsHaveTakenOver]

Change "detection" to "correction."

[@germanball333]

BRAVO

[@nempne]

My parents used to take us to that stupid Creationist Museum when we were kids and this place caused me so much confusion in my upbringing, and so much ridicule. Anyway, I met Carl Baugh when I was five and I really pissed him off when he tried to tell me how young the earth is and I told him he was wrong and stupid, like any other tired, confused youngin’ would after a seven-hour drive. I like that story, because we never went back after that.

[@angusmuir6180]

Absolute legend.

[@SturgGaeming]

Proto-Chad

[@lordfelidae4505]

Chadlet child.

[@Meggligee]

I live down the road from the creationist museum and about 30 minutes away from the ark encounter. It’s ridiculous the amount of stupidity radiating from those two places. The effort they’ve gone into trying to prove the their myths is actually humorous! Fun fact… the atheist/humanist/free-thinker group Tri-State Freethinkers sponsors the roadway cleanup outside both the creationist museum and the ark.

[@rynemcgriffin1752]

@@SturgGaeming Chad Junior

[@jimanthimum]

“Sounds like you’re *projecting* a *little*” is literally the funniest line I’ve ever heard in my life

[@TheWoodsman661]

The Ark Encounter is also horribly constructed. There's a layer of concrete ON TOP OF THE DAMN THING, because apparently that's how you seal something that's going to get rained on. They also claim that it's timber frame construction. As a woodworker, the construction terrifies me. They used lag bolts, some being 36 inches long, to hold green trees together, not cut and shaped timbers, whole ass trees. There are cracks in the load bearing supports, some of which you can see all the way through. That place needs to be shut down and demolished. That said, I'll take all of the lumber and logs if it gets demolished.

[@doggodoggo3000]

36 inches is no longer a lag bolt but a length of threaded rod lol. I'm not surprised to hear that it's built like crap. Kinda glad tbh. Maybe it'll be deemed a safety risk and condemned.

[@TheWoodsman661]

@@doggodoggo3000 I knew it wasn't really a lag bolt at that length, but my brain stopped working. I couldn't remember what it was called. I too hope that place gets closed down, and that's coming from a Christian, just not like most others.

[@davidsenderodelsanto]

​@@doggodoggo3000 Not mu

[@Anon26535]

It's going to be an episode of Fascinating Horror one day.

[@corvuscorax7451]

They also got flood damage to the property once, because they built a road in a way that didn't take into account the geology of the site. They don't seem to want any real geologists around the place to do consultations and such, probably because real geologists keep pissing them off by telling them rocks are old.

[@Mr.b0nes]

There once was a man named baloo He found a petrified shoe He had no proof So his argument went poof So he pulled evidence out of his wazoo

[@Da_Swifta]

Fucking brilliant

[@Mr.b0nes]

@@Da_Swifta thanks :)

[@epkoda]

I slightly changed it to make it more like a limerick :) there once was a man named Baloo who mistook a rock for a shoe his idea went poof because he had no proof but he kept on insisting it's true (a limerick has 5-6 syllables in the 3rd/4th lines but yours has 4 and 7, plus the last line was 11 syllables, not 9-10)

[@sirarchibaldcheese3408]

Both are great

[@american_jackal5956]

There once was a man named Baloo Who found a petrified shoe Thought he proved God With this newfound clod But was found to be full of poo.

[@King63Kobra]

I still can't get over the fact that it does not look like a footprint in the slightest. Like the shape does vaguely resemble a shoe but the imprint itself hardly does.

[@JohnBurnett-cd8gq]

This episode reminded me of my late geology professor. He was an ichnologist (someone who studies trace fossils like footprints and poop among other things) and really brought my passion out. I laughed when you mentioned what would have been an ichnology conference, because I was just as bewildered when he mentioned them.

[@AdmiralSnakbar77]

As a Christian evolution-believing archaeologist who was taught growing up that Creationism was a fact, I greatly appreciate this video

[@luthientinuviel3883]

Me too!

[@violetbean8928]

my dad's like that too. really glad that there's atleast some of you out there

[@_apsis]

i’m curious, how well does christianity and our understanding of evolution line up?

[@anironfarm6056]

⁠@@_apsisperfectly fine. The vast majority of Christians outside of places like the Bible Belt see no conflict between the teachings of their faith and the discoveries of science. The official doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, the largest Christian church in the world, states that evolution is the mechanism through which God created all of Earth’s creatures. The Bible is not a literally true account of history. It is a collection of allegorical stories from various places and times that are there to teach us how we should live our lives. And the people who claim otherwise are to be avoided.

[@Soup_Whale99]

@@anironfarm6056 i wish more of those hardcore christians knew that and took "love thy neighbor" serious, instead of being homophobic

[@kvdjopfdj5302]

As a devout Christian and Evolutionary Ecologist, I just want to put in... as a teenager, trying to figure out what I believed, nothing convinced me that young earth creationism was wrong more than YEC materials themselves. They're not even logically consistent from one paragraph to the next.

[@Trotoloko]

How can you excuse then the concept of Original Sin,then? Because the Gospels put Jesus as a literal descendant of Adam and Noah. Or is it that everytime the Bible contradicts reality or itself its automatically a "metaphor" , but when they are crucial to be real so your faith stands, then you read them as literal?

[@themplar]

Kinda wondering where you switch from evidence based to faith based belief. Its great you figured out YEC is completely batshit crazy and dishonest. But wondering how on earth the rest you do believe. And how do you distinguish between absolute nonsense and "ow but this part is true". I'm glad you do, dont get me wrong its probably why we can drink a beer and actually coexist in a society.

[@Trotoloko]

@@themplar I frankly can't see them as actual friends, since their function is basically enable the same Bible fundamentalists actually interpret correctly. If Christianity was actually a desirable ideology, we would want all of them being fundamentalist extremists, not the diet version, don't you think?

[@themplar]

@@Trotoloko Well i'm glad most christians arent fundamentalist and morally superior over their god concept. It would be like living amongst ISIS members, no thank you. And i'm lucky enough to live in a secular country where atheism is more of a default these days, even the christians are more deistic. It wouldnt be possible to live with christian fundamentalists. To me the bible simply does not match reality in any possible way. And any christian needs to somehow figure out "this part is nonsense, this part must be methaphorical and this part yeah that is true. " and that without any possible way of determining that.

[@dasfowler]

@@themplar I'd say most western Christians are more "Moral Christologists" (e.g. they study the moral codes of Christ and seek to emulate them, seeing their scriptures as the teachings of men attempting to share their god) more akin to mainstream Buddhism than the Evangelicals you typically see represent the religion who tend to be your typical fundamentalists.

[@TheRealDanTheManYT]

Growing up I was homeschooled under a curriculum called A.C.E. (Accelerated Christian Education). It's basically written by a bunch of old guys whose world view hasn't changed since 1960. Young earth creation was absolutely hammered into my head along with a LOT of sexism and just outright blatant lies. The fact that the rest of my family is still stuck in that bubble hurts me to my soul.

[@faefolkarts]

I was also subject to ACE's BS. I know next to nothing about history or geography bc of how biased it is. And while I enjoyed learning, the fact that God was shoved into literally all the lessons really bothered me when I started realizing. I'm now in Adult Ed to try and get a proper highschool education.

[@annikkirahko6714]

My best friend growing up did ACE I was stuck in the same brainwashing bubble but was never subjected to it. That shit looked horrible. I’m so sorry you had to do that crap

[@larry5068]

I'm sorry to hear about your family, must feel awful. As a Danish citizen I "won the lottery" by being born into a deeply Christian family myself, which is always fun, when like ~10% of our population actually identify as Christian, and way fewer are young earth creationists. My mom is one of those, although she's kinda confused, cus I'm pretty sure she accepts that ice ages took place, and that animals like mammoths and sabre tooth cats existed, but gets worked up over the mention of neanderthals. A lot of my family, including my parents, hold some bigoted opinions, like anti-lgbtq+ and shit like that. I really wanna help change that, but I'm very divided on how to approach it, because I suspect it to be very grounded in their core beliefs, and I haven't yet decided whether or not its worth ripping up in that, considering it could risk our relationships. I am also the most conflict-shy mf I know so... But I came across a very promising method of examining people's beliefs called Street Epistemology (you may have heard about it). It's so non-confrontational if you do it right, yet it can be so effective in cutting right to the bone. Its about exploring the methods you may have used to arrive at the conclusion that what you believe is true. If you yourself feel up for talking with your family about christianity and/or some of the bigoted views often associated with it, then I highly recommend you check out this method. A guy called Anthony Magnabosco has a channel where he practices this, and its incredible to see. I hope that whatever you decide to do that it works out in your favor, and if not, that you'll still find happiness and acceptance for yourself and your family.

[@madtabby66]

A.C.E was horrible! I don't even remember science booklets.

[@arcipola1196]

@@larry5068 that's one of the few long comments I actually read and my I'm glad I did

[@lastofthehouseplants3590]

I grew up in a private Christian school my entire life. They were strictly young earth creationists, and told us carbon dating was bullshit without ever even explaining how it works. I feel like this channel has been helping me catch up on all the things they didn’t teach us or straight up lied about.

[@sarahamira5732]

I guarantee that the reason they didnt tell you is because they didnt even know 🤣

[@musicman3825]

There once was a man named Ballou, Claimed he found a petrified shoe. It was in one place In a rock face And he just didn't know what to do. He took it to the NY times, As they were busy publishing crimes. His story was bought they didn't give it much thought Now we're making up all of these rhymes. The find put young earthers in a tizzy, They wanted to spread it and got busy. They shared it around through the whole fr*cking town And the ignorance makes us pretty dizzy.

[@EnvoyOfLoveAndJustice]

The name absolutely checks out, when's the rap?

[@tomburrus7737]

@ImSoQwerty language!

[@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree]

Sound's like Ballou's head was full of Doo-doo

[@babydahl9424]

*wild applause*

[@iconitoblubberry]

the is perfect

[@AEHTSCH]

There once was a man named Balou Who found a petrified shoe It came from a rock, But to his great shock It looked almost new! Balou said "Gosh Darn" Went home to his barn And said to his lady Lilou: "I found this petrified shoe It came from a rock, But to my great shock It looks almost new!" "That cannot be true, For i have been told that rocks are so old!" But doctor Balou heeded her not, For he'd thrown in his lot With the creationist crew Yet all of the crew And even the doc Were thoroughly wrong It was only a rock And so ends the song Of doctor Balou And his petrified shoe Which was only a rock

[@deathkorpsofkriegkommissar9652]

Mate, you're a lyrical feckin' genius.

[@kaylencowan4355]

Wtf this is amazing, go actually make a book you got skill

[@t.p.ggaming3884]

Dr Seuss been real quiet since Nova dropped this bop

[@enricoboldrini5350]

@@t.p.ggaming3884 lmaaao

[@jameseddleman6944]

I like to paint and draw, if I made this....how much would you pay for it? lol

[@addireher3575]

dude my grandma forced my family to go to the ark encounter thing- literally the most crazy thing i have ever seen. they literally contradict themselves over and over. parts of it was kinda cool, i will admit, but in like a fictional way. like they clearly put a lot of thought into it and it was fun to think about in a abstract way, but like then i saw the first dinosaur and they lost me.

[@Alchemy818.]

I had little hope for this place, but I lost all of it when I read a book they had in the gift shop welcome center thing that said “maybe the trex ate watermelons with its sharp teeth!”

[@yakobi8434]

Literally. It was a cool experience I will admit. Everything else was just weird leaps in logic.

[@josephstocks7495]

God forbid that you spend time with your grandmother doing the things which she's interested in. What a horrible lady she must be.

[@addireher3575]

@@josephstocks7495 dude chill. i thought it was crazy but i kept it to myself and tried to keep a positive attitude and seem interested the whole time, as i love my grandma and she really seemed to be enjoying herself. i can have a personal private opinion without disrespecting the people around me.

[@xvelvet3247]

@@josephstocks7495 What's wrong with you? Something going on back home?

[@alexandrab3310]

15:12 “stupid dumbass” and “rat horse” got me 💀

[@johnwhittington2998]

If the “Footprint” had shown stitching in it then it’s a better argument for time travel than it is creationism

[@normalhuman9878]

Obviously the time travelers just wanted to go back and ride dinosaurs

[@firegator6853]

@@normalhuman9878 i wonder if cowboys are ceratopsianboys....

[@Ashethetics]

@@normalhuman9878 I know I would.

[@wm9482]

It's clearly aliens, I saw it on the History channel at 3am so it must be true

[@58209]

@@firegator6853 i need this imax movie

[@simonazcarate316]

There once was a man named Balloo. He found a petrified shoe. He made up a story, projecting God’s glory and hoped all would think it was true.

[@Lemon_Inspector]

this might be the only good one in this entire comments section

[@HaizeyWings]

Woah very nice o.o

[@arianna1280]

Omg this is the best one

[@basementdwellercosplay]

I grew up as a creationist as a kid and even went to the creation museum and ark encounter. In high school I realized how many hoops I had to jump through to believe in it. Thank you earth science class for finally getting it through my big dumb head. I still believe in God, I just believe they caused the big bang and evolution. Edit: to all you creationists in the replies, you aren't going to win me over. My parents are still creationists and if they can't convince me then some random person on the internet wouldn't with the same bunk science

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

You have no clue how much I value people like you.

[@roshanlackhan110]

We have a Chad over here, seriously man I wish more people think like you.

[@troodon1096]

As someone who considers himself both a Christian, and a scientist, (not a "Christian scientist" a term for someone who is arguably neither of those things) that's the same conclusion I've come to. I do believe God created the universe, and the Earth, and the life on it, and the mechanics that have caused change over time. (And "change over time" is essentially the definition of "evolution.") It doesn't require any stretches of logic to see science for what it is and give credit to a creator who put all of that into motion. I recall a physics teacher who basically said "science is here to answer what, when, where, and who; why is a question for philosophy and religion."

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

@@troodon1096 THANK YOU

[@DocBree13]

Back when I was a Christian (in a YEC denomination), I was one of the only people in my youth group that believed in evolution. I always said that “the Bible tells us who, science tells us how.” I still think that’s a reasonable way to look at things, and that statement helped prevent me from getting into debates with Christian friends who didn’t think the way I did, but could see my side of it after I explained it that way. Of course, there’s nothing wrong with getting into a debate, but there may be times you don’t want to.

[@bookworm3005]

I'm a Christian, and I think YECs are weird. Yes I believe God created the earth, but it makes sense that He would use natural laws, evolution, and time.

[@Hostefar]

Why does that make sense?

[@turquoisesnowflake4613]

My dad once explained that scientifically, a young earth is impossible, and spiritually, it's selfish to think of us as the center of everything

[@YoogaBear777]

I agree and I have come to the conclusion that God’s days are different from our human days. This would make the appearance of humans on earth make more sense. I dont really believe in evolution tho because it’s funky when it comes to humans. I do believe in evolution when animals adapt to their surroundings (a few days to hundreds of years(I. E. Giraffes adapting to tall trees to eat)), however that’s not really evolution because the animal adapts over time

[@JohnEDepth752]

@@YoogaBear777 It's not funky. Chromosome #2 is all the proof you need. Evolution is a fact. That's why it's a Scientific Theory. Please look up what a scientific theory is. My guess, is that you weren't taught that in school.

[@YoogaBear777]

@ actually I’m in college right now. Not a liberal one either, but one that has classes on this sort of topic. I do not believe in the scientific theory. I believe in the Bible (which is my opinion to believe in). Like I said, I believe that all animals are able to adapt to their surroundings over time. I have the giraffe example because there is fossil proof. There is not proof however that humans evolved from monkeys. Similarities? Yes. Definite proof? Not that I have seen and as such I do not believe in evolution

[@mundy_en]

My mom is a young earth creationist. She very much tried to tell me how the earth is only 14,000 years old. She takes the bible very literally but also kinda sorta cherry picks it a little bit.

[@arnslyff6859]

As a pretty religious Christian myself, ive never understood the hills people die on. I've always argued that you cant know how long a day is for the eternal. And given that the bible was still written by the hands of men, who were entrusted by god to write it down in a way the people at the time could understand, you can maybe understand why a shepherd who saw what the creation really looked like, wrote things down a bit more simplistically Ill probably instantly regret posting this after the first neckbeard responds but figured id offer my view on the matter

[@yannickgrignon2473]

@@arnslyff6859 I really respect this point of view. I'm not SUPER religious, but I would definitely describe myself as a Christian, and people's unwillingness to understand stuff as being allegorical, or metaphor, or an error in the historical record - a lack of creativity and critical thinking, essentially - always baffles me.

[@alicelima2320]

These people usually do cherry pick stuff. It's only important if it fits their views and the way they live, but once you point out a part of the bible that contradicts something they've said they will do the biggest mental gymnastics you'll ever see. I have some people in my family who are also pretty religious and looooove to use the bible to justify their shitty behaviour, but when I bring up stuff like: •they shouldn't wear polyester, or any kind of fabric blends • they shouldn't wear gold jewelry •they shouldn't eat certain seafoods •they shouldn't eat pork •shouldn't get divorced •women shouldn't speak inside the church •shouldn't cut their hair and beards •they shouldn't gossip And many, many other stuff, they get mad at me. But I'm in the wrong, in their eyes. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

My mother used to be like this but she also believed in the existence of Dinosaurs. So when I told her that there would be cave paintings of dinosaurs the same as there was for mammoths she realized that she was full of shit. She luckily didn't double down and I'll forever be grateful.

[@sapphirewingthefurrycritic985]

Most Christians cherry pick the bible.

[@nicolajo666]

There once was a man named Baloo He found a petrified shoe But his lack, I expound, Of proof on the ground, Prove the 'facts' were pulled out his wazoo

[@toasterkolin9951]

Lmao, genius.

[@user-lguqrux]

Greatest Art Form known to man.

[@lizard3755]

I love Milo's hatred of that early horse, there's no reason given for his disdain and I don't even need any

[@commi1302]

W hating

[@drs-xj3pb]

I like that his disdain extends to the name. Hyracotherium is an ugly name, and does not, as he implies, mean "dawn horse." It means "hyrax-like beast," which is odd as it bears little resemblance to a hyrax. Eohippus, the rejected American name, does mean "dawn horse" and is a beautiful name. Fortunately, Hyracotherium is no longer classified as an equid and Eohippus has been restored to its proper status as a valid equid genus.

[@Jacksonmoonstar1714]

“Chernobyl graphite kicking contest” had me absolutely dying 😂😂😂

[@AlexofZippo]

"do you have a headache yet?" me, a geology buff: "yes. holy hell, yes. please continue."

[@serenityphawx]

The information in this video (as well as some of your others) helped me to walk my father back from the brink of conspiracy theories. He's a retired computer engineer who's been stuck in a YE-creationist echo chamber lately. Your explanations of the scientific techniques, geology, etc. helped me give him the explanations he needed to turn away from the conspiracy theorists. Thank you SO much!

[@flyingstonemon3564]

Congrats!

[@em01455]

Do you have any advice for somebody in a similar spot with their dad?

[@serenityphawx]

​@@em01455 Sure! I'm not an expert, but I've actually studied this for my university work in psychology and neuroscience. So, I've written up some pointers for you that might help: • Approach them with patience, and understand the social support aspect of conspiracy theory (CT) groups. They may need to feel that they could find social support outside of that group, before they could consider leaving it. • Be empathetic. Such beliefs are usually driven by strong emotions, rather than facts and evidence. Understand and try to empathise with the emotions reflected in the CT that makes it feel true. (e.g. Perhaps they are afraid for the future of the world; or maybe they've struggled under systemic injustice and it feels unfair, but they couldn't put their finger on why.) CTs offer a way to simplify levels of complexity and uncertainty that otherwise feel overwhelming and unsettling. Suddenly, they can point to a reason for their suffering, and feel that there is order in the chaos. • Find out what they actually believe, and don't question their intelligence, common sense, or morality. They're not all die-hard believers, and there may be some subtlety to what makes sense to them and what doesn't. But if they feel like you're not taking them seriously as a person, you may alienate them before you have a chance to discover what they truly believe and how strongly they believe it. • Find common ground to help them feel that you 'get' them and that you're both on the same 'side'. People who believe in CTs are often driven by core traits that you may share, like curiosity or healthy skepticism. If you value these things too, you can make it clear that each of these are values you have in common, and each is something you can both relate to and agree about its importance. • Without dismissing the person themselves, share how those same values have led you to another conclusion, and be prepared to back up your claims with evidence. Perhaps also share how the answers you uncovered help the world and/or their experiences make a lot more sense. In this way, you are validating their skepticism and curiosity, and offering them an explanation that still validates their experiences, while also helping them to reduce uncertainty and feel like they understand what's going on. This is not easy. If you're asking them to trade a belief that brings them cathartic comfort for one that doesn't, you've got some work to do to frame your point in a way that feels like a better trade. • You might try to find a sense in which they can accept a different explanation and still be essentially 'right' in a way. (e.g. They were 'right' to be skeptical, and astute to realise that there's more to the story, but the 'more' that they were right about is just different to what they've been told so far by other CT believers.) You're aiming to help the person feel understood and validated, because the need for that is likely what made them receptive to believing a CT in the first place: someone gave them a cathartic explanation that made them feel that their fear or suffering makes sense in a way that doesn't disparage their self-worth. I think that's a very human need that we can all relate to on some level. • If they're a firm believer in the CT, offering evidence may backfire and make them dig in their heels. In such cases, it may be better if you're not aiming to change their mind, but just to sow a small seed of doubt about how relevant or useful the CT really is. Since these communities can be strong networks of trust, you might choose to not question the motives or morality of the CT-community or its leaders. Instead, maybe mention that even people with good hearts and sound minds can make mistakes or be misinformed. And this could even be likely, since there are often people/systems who benefit in some way from the spread of misinformation. Even a clever navigator can be lead off-track by a faulty map. I hope this is useful to you. If it would help, I can also share a personal example of how I approached this with my father.

[@SincerelyBradley]

As a Christian, one who has been to the ark encounter, was homeschooled , went to an oft overlooked college which heavily teaches this and someone who, still, finds it hogwash and despises ken ham and Kent hovind ( the latter of which is just an absolute gold mine of crazy theories), I appreciate the differentiation between religion and creationism. We appreciate you! Love the content

[@luthientinuviel3883]

I do as well! I used to be a creationist, but once I realized how wrong their beliefs were I was out of there. However, I am still quite religious and my faith means a lot to ne

[@lintree]

I think it's so wonderful that he specified that! I'm not a Christian, but I did have a religious education and my teachers were all religious and taught us about the bible, but not as canon history. They taught us about it for the morals we could take from it, and they went well out of their way to teach us to think before we believe, and to treat each other with kindness despite our differences. No matter what young earth creationists say, my teachers will always be what religion means to me rather than the unscientific beliefs of a fringe group. The way they taught us are a large part of the reason I am who I am today, because they told us about different kinds of people and how minorities have been treated, they helped me feel sympathy and love instead of the anger and hate others live with

[@DermotBrophy]

religion and creationism no difference

[@Petticca]

@debonlr There is. YEC is as much an active, hate and fear fueled conspiracy theory, as it is a religious denomination. This literally doesn't apply to most religious cults. They are the same in that they are believed to be true, not only without verifiable evidence, but despite the existence of evidence against its claims. And believers tout "faith" as a virtue and justification for their intellectually disingenuous 'special pleading", employed to explain away evidence or challenges that they won't engage with honestly.

[@borkistanon4194]

​@@DermotBrophysomeone frequents r/athiesm

[@awesomeMSE]

I grew up as a creationist, and I would like to thank you for making these videos. All it took was seeing/reading one thing that challenged the conspiracy theories I was taught to start unravelling them and realize I was living in a doomsday cult. Informative, factual, and fun videos like this save lives.

[@cal5266]

2 of the bio teachers in my high school were devout christians (one ran the bible study club). Neither of them refuted science or evolution but rather saw them as an extension of their God's power. I'm personally an atheist but i always respected the way they conducted their beliefs and how they coencided with science.

[@DogNamedWatson]

I'm an anthropology/psychology major planning to go into Archaeology, and one of the best Archaeology professors at my university was a devout Christian who worked exclusively on prehistory, and has specifically done a lot with Neanderthals. He is adamant that religion and science do not have to be in opposition. I'm not sure what my religious beliefs are, although I know I'm not Christian, but I always appreciated this very significant man in Archaeology taking that stance.

[@ElpSmith]

I have heard some Christians say that as well and I think that’s kind of beautiful that they can fuse those beliefs together and I respect that it’s not completely unreasonable.

[@DrinkYourNailPolish]

My favorite Pastor- Dr Chuck Missler- who has since gone home to be with the Lord- spoke abt particle physics in his explanation in how God created the world. Truly amazing stuff! He taught you don't have to shun science in order to emnrace God's word but in fact science can help explain how things are described in the Bible. For ex: "The heavens declare the Glory of God" is a wonderfully poetic descriptor for how scientists have recently discovered that each heavenly body has their own resonance.

[@richyhu2042]

Science and religion doesnt have to be opposed to each other. Im agnostic/atheist but if youre religious you cab make the arguement that god set off a chain of events that lead to a miracle of creation. Hell i know that there have been sects dedicated to using science and academia to try and get closer to god. Basically "the more we understand about gods creation the closer to god we can be".

[@dafriendlyghost]

@@ElpSmithnot really beautiful. They are smart people who want to seek truth but have been indoctrinated so deeply.

[@yakobi8434]

Been to the Ken Ham Ark- at the beginning of the tour there was a map of Ancient Civilisation timeline, which had civilisations that are studied constantly. Sumeria was just labelled “Gilgamesh”. Nothing else. I don’t believe they had Babylon on the map either. The entire time (I was very devout at the period of my life) I was dumbfounded. If the project was truly faith-inspired why was it being monetised and why was it basically a theme park. It was artificial, fake, and disingenuous. It felt like it was going against the key elements of scripture.

[@littlegiantj8761]

You've described Baptists to a T

[@bryan__m]

I certainly have to think YEC wouldn't be so widespread if there weren't as much money to be made off of it.

[@gazeboist4535]

How does a person build a museum purporting to be based on a daughter religion of Second Temple Judaism and fail to mention Babylon?!? Just...how???

[@bryan__m]

@@gazeboist4535 It's worse than that. They make a big deal about being as Biblically accurate as possible, and there's a plaque that admits there's no details in the Bible about Noah's wife and family, so they made it all up, right down to naming them and deciding what hobbies they had. It was so unbelievable I took a picture of it.

[@thezackast2752]

They built a theme park dedicated to the Bible and just didn't put in one of the most influential kingdoms? Shame on them

[@juniper4709]

So uh embarrassing confession…. My parents donated to the making of ken hams giant arc. They got a mini model. Still have it. It’s crazy watching all the info that was drilled into me as a child and the people I was told to respect because they told the truth, just made fun of so artistically…. I had to pause so many times just to let the burn sink in. Thank you.

[@PaulMab9]

That shows an emotional maturity that many young-earth believers seem to lack (and lots of other people, TBF), good on you stranger.

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

congrats on freeing yourself from that! as one formerly indoctrinated person to another - it takes guts!

[@youdontget3200]

I truly hope that from now on nobody will mess with your mind again

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Ken Ham is an impressively successful conmen. As his propaganda mill is called "Answers in Genesis" he should be aware that an Ark is not a boat or shaped like a modern oil tanker with a bulbous hurricane bow but describes a BOX. A big, square container made from wood. But his models surely look better on the living room shelves or mantle. Just not even bible accurate.

[@juniper4709]

@@youdontget3200 same thank you

[@TerryWaitesRadiator]

There once was a man called Baloo, Who found a petrified shoe. Claimed it looked to be leather, Turned to stone by the weather. I'll have some of what he's smoking too.

[@ErzengelDesLichtes]

Having a creationist museum right next to the dinosaur park is like having a flat earth kiosk on a tourist space station.

[@Tinlion09]

How to de-escalate a potential Creationist Argument Situation in one word: "Think about it. Were you there when God created the Earth?" *"YES."*

[@comradewindowsill4253]

"Bu-but- PROVE IT!" He yells angrily, face turning red. "I don't have to prove anything. You just have to have faith that I did." He implodes.

[@hedgehog3180]

Just claim to be the Dalai Lama and that you can remember all of your previous reincarnations so you remember the creation of the Earth. Christianity is trumped ny Buddhism.

[@muchotexto4248]

Dude I made Neptune in my basement....... Prove me a liar I dare you

[@punishedwaluigi3518]

@@hedgehog3180 why would a diehard Christian care what the Dalai Lama thinks? the whole no gods no idols before me trumps that, you aren’t as good at gotchas as you think

[@LimeyLassen]

" no you weren't" "how do you know? were you there?"

[@piercespielman5631]

I love the whole thing with Christian’s being like “we need to take back God’s holy symbol the rainbow” when biblically the rainbow was literally gods way of saying “sorry I caused near total genocide of everyone and everything on earth, here have this token as I promise that next time I do it I’ll use fire instead”

[@valeryasteel4167]

I wrote exactly the same thing in another comment before seeing this one, lol. Including the "next time I won't use a flood to destroy earth.", because its also phrased exactly like that as far as I remember

[@anteasgard]

Did you know why God flooded the earth? Because there is more sins than righteousness. What sins you ask specificly? Its sexual sins. 🌈. Rainbow is a sign that earth has been baptized by water. As like many christian baptized by water as atonement. Next baptism is by fire… if this world keep doing the sins… maybe world be baptize with fire… As creationism or evolutionism i not a arkelog nor theolog…so i no comment about it.

[@valeryasteel4167]

@@anteasgard bro first of all - no. In no place is it said that the sins were "sexual", despite what your brain dead Christian education told you. It's, and I know Hebrew so I can read the original text, "bringing evil upon the earth, thinking evil thoughts, committing evil deeds". It's written that "God regretted creating humans". It is not specified, in any place, what they did to be considered so destructive. Worshipping evil gods? Destroying nature, the environment? Murdering and pillaging? No one knows. What was even the purpose of your comment? Syne think of that before you post?

[@thecrimsonqueer]

@@anteasgard no one asked

[@thallium.81]

@@anteasgard what do you mean, mostly sexual sins? Where in the Bible does it say that God flooded the earth due to sexual sins? It said that they murdered, they raped (that's a sexual sin, I'll grant you that), they were just plain rude. But you implied that it was due to homosexuality. Please tell me where it says that in the Bible.

[@Manigeitora]

There once was a man named Baloo, who found a petrified shoe. He kicked it around, said "Here's a cool rock I found," and I can't think of a way to end this limerick.

[@amandaw6872]

Having been raised as a homeschooled fundamentalist, I didn't start to truly learn the real science stuff until my early 30s, and enough to fully grasp the depth of evidence until the last few years. The thing that really blows my own mind is that my brother, who works now as a nuclear engineer (read: absolutely must understand one of the most fundamental laws that debunks YEC) is currently proudly homeschooling his daughters and they are being taught YEC. How?!?! However, I was quite proud of my own daughter, despite never having much discussed these topics with the kids - as an early teen, she chose to accept my mother's invitation to go to the "Creation Museum" (she said she felt bad for my mother for having so isolated herself in life that she wanted to do something nice for her by going with ❤️). When she got back and I asked how it was, she said she had to hold back laughter so many times.... Lol

[@luthientinuviel3883]

I remember going to the creation museum and the ark and it was cool for me, but only because I was neck-deep in creationism at the time (and a child). I will say, the Ark is very impressive to look at so...nice job?

[@222ableVelo]

Maybe because the Biblical creation account (which Atheists started calling "Creationism".....they sure do love their "isms"), actually makes logical sense. And when taken as a whole with all of the other accounts in the Bible, and current modern science, it all fits together. Intelligent people are on the side of "Creationism".

[@charliemarlow647]

@@222ableVelo If you're not averse to reading, I'd recommend "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. It's from the point of view of an athiest biologist, but is well written and something I encourage people of all faiths to read at some point in their lives :)

[@NekoApril]

@@222ableVelo "Creationism" doesn't refer to the Genesis creation story, but to the certain kind of biblical literalism that states that it is 100% true and not a poetic account (most biblical scholars tend to think that the history as told by the bible is more poetic/mythic up until the accounts of King David). It's also (usually) a subset of America Evangelical Christianity, not a broader part of the theology of most other kinds of Christianity (in the modern day at least). Also the whole idea that the biblical creation account makes logical sense kinda breaks down once you realize that there are two mutually incompatible accounts in Genesis only separated by a couple of chapters. This isn't even getting into how a fully literal interpretation conflicts with modern biology, geology, archaeology, linguistics, astrophysics, history, and just about every other scientific field you could think up that would have any position on the history of this rocky wet marble.

[@Stansbrokenhandle]

​@@222ableVelo It's almost like words have meanings. Try looking up what "-ism" means before spouting off your bible-based nonsense.

[@ipsnagi9442]

That quote "It's a lot easier to shape facts around your beliefs than it is to shape your beliefs around facts" was beautiful! Something I experience every day at work, unfortunately.

[@vlork666]

"Amateur geologist, just makes me think it's a guy who likes rocks." Me: (amateur herpetologist, doesn't have a degree but breeds snakes and is obsessed with them) Yeah. That actually checks out.

[@nicholasstone3705]

OMG, your pfp is amazing!😆 I love it!

[@sarahamira5732]

Ngl I'm very sleep deprived and when I first read the word "herpetologist" I legitimately thought "ah yes this person must study herpes". I need sleep

[@perrydowd9285]

@@sarahamira5732 OMG. That's me too. 🤦‍♂️🐍

[@reynaldalghiffara9377]

@@sarahamira5732 nice

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

So by that very argument, my dude… *You’re a dude that likes to make snakes bone*

[@predragtolmachev3883]

Milo thank you for your insight and for your humor and sarcasm. As a strongly devout Christian but also as a student in university and someone who is dedicated to academics and good scholarship I agree with whole heartedly and I will say this boldly much to the shock of other professing Christians that any creationist views whether old or young earth is neither biblically nor scientifically supported.

[@columbojumpscare]

Another funny part about the Arc Encounter is that the depictions of prehistoric animals in there are often better than a lot of museum statues and maquettes, those bozos went out of their way to do actual research with a lot of money in order to accurately depict animals that, in themselves, show evolution, such as theropods (i mean ffs their dinosaurs have *lips*) and primitive whales, for their creationist biblical display. Also as a side comment: Would if be possible for you to credit your images ? As a paleoartist seeing Julio Lacerda's (bear ancestry) art go uncredited hurts.

[@SakkaraKirax]

The description of the video does say he will give image citations on request. I suppose that anyone who has the level of interest to want to find out more about the art or artist would also be willing to ask for the information? There are a lot of images (illustrations, photos, charts, maps) used in these videos and it would be a lot to cite alongside the other resources he used for research, which are in the description. I do take your point, though.

[@SakkaraKirax]

Oh, also paleoartist sounds like an amazing job/hobby!

[@miniminuteman773]

I watched the Ken Ham / Bill Nye debate as I was working on this video and which takes place IN the encounter and it was insane to watch. The misrepresentation of science is just groundbreaking. And yes that’s a great point about citations. I’ve always kept a list of my image citations but it gets pretty long. Since now I have an actual audience I’m going to start doing some “in text” citations next video!

[@drdiabeetus4419]

@@miniminuteman773 What may be prudent is to just dump a link to another webpage that has the image citations alongside timestamps. You may find yourself doing this for NORMAL citations too as videos balloon in length.

[@tonywilson4713]

@@drdiabeetus4419 Or simply do what a lot of others do and list them in the details. Go look at some potholer54 vids he pretty much always has a list of citations in the details especially where he's quoting scientific papers.

[@sulcatagrl]

Dude. I saw it for a few seconds and was like "That's a concretion." As an anthropologist and a kid of two geologists, I don't even know what to do with these whacko creationist people.

[@joshc5613]

Ignore them if possible and if that doesn't work, just laugh them off

[@lordfelidae4505]

Use rocks.

[@Earthstar_Review]

Use them as concretion nodes. Because they're _fossils._

[@ImmortalLemon]

Creationism is one of those funny belief systems where if you ask questions you leave with more questions than answers

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

That’s why you don’t question it. Creationism is about having answers which cannot be questioned, unlike science which has question which may never be answered. I’d prefer the second one because I’d rather have an incomplete but accurate model of the world rather than an inaccurate but complete model.

[@ImmortalLemon]

@@TheNinthGeneration1 thank you! That’s a great way of putting it. Better to have questions you can’t answer, than answers you can’t question

[@fewbronzegames]

eh, creationism (or atleast young earth creationism) is not really about an inaccurate but complete model, it's kinda just reading an old book and thinking that everything it says is fact and shaping the world around you so that it can work, an accurate description of an inaccurate but complete model would be how science already works as a whole to explain the world around us, once you go into a certain amount of complexity in any real system in the universe you can't fully understand it, an example is how we know that with a certain amount of force in a given direction a ball will move in that direction with a certain speed proportional to the direction and kinetic energy of whatever moved it but if you keep shrinking down the things you are moving it gets harder and harder to explain, eventually to the point where we have no tools that could accurately measure what exactly is happening, so assumptions and generalizations are made in order to explain accurately what is happening however that is not a complete understanding and therefore is an inaccurate but (ideally) complete model, making it more accurate without making it incomplete is the goal, but sometimes it's a balance for example if they find a system that perfectly explains something but fails in other areas. but in the end inaccuracy to a certain degree with everything is inevitable, we don't know how fast a ball actually moves with a certain amount of force acted on it, we have a very accurate measurement, but it's still not perfect @@TheNinthGeneration1

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

@@fewbronzegames science has an incomplete model because there are still questions we cannot answer, and it’s accurate as far as our evidence goes. Creationism is about knowing that god made the world and every question can be answered with some version of “because god”.

[@fewbronzegames]

the point of science isn't just to take evidence to answer things, it has and currently does makes assumptions and generalizations on how things work in order for predictions and models to work, the accuracy of these assumptions and the ability for them to work in our universe is what's important, but for the reality of things it requires evidence, it's possible for 2 systems to explain everything we know but tests need to be done in order to find how it actually works, creationism doesn't do much different, whether or not the statement is "oh it works because god" that is an assumption and even if it can explain how things around are that doesn't mean it explains how things actually work, only that they are how they are because of god. going back to the 2 systems that can both explain how things are if one was "because god made it that way" and the other was "because of a complicated system" they can both be untestable but if they found a way to test the complicated system and found that it explains how things are perfectly and also does exist and can be proven, than we know that it's right, but the other one isn't wrong either because it was too vague to begin with and includes not only the system that was proven true but every system that could exist, so basically "because of god" is incomplete and an assumption because it's an assumption that god makes everything work, and incomplete because there is no known evidence to prove it regardless of whether or not people think it's true, so it doesn't actually explain the universe because "knowing" that god did it doesn't make people understand how the universe works any better than some vague scientific idea and could "prove" literally anything that could happen with respect to what we know for certain, it's as good as saying "well this thing works as far as we know" but stated as "this is how things work" it's still incomplete, however a "complete" system is hard to define because it could mean that it contains everything that is true or it contains how we think things could work with the definition of the first one that a complete system is everything that is true no system is complete @@TheNinthGeneration1

[@miannekahkol9556]

"We live in a time where people no longer change their opinions based on fact; they change the facts based on their opinions" Ehhh, this implies a degradation that isn't really there. It has always been the case that many, many people change facts based on opinion, rather than the other way round. This problem just gets more visibility now because of the ease with which people can share their beliefs to wide audiences.

[@BGwxlf]

Facts dont care about ur feelings

[@alexross1816]

Oddly, I'd find the Ark Encounter pretty cool if it was used as a "This is what Noah probably would have looked like, how he'd set up the enclosures for each animal, how he'd set up his own cabin, how he'd dress, etc." as an antediluvian look at how people and culture probably were. Basically, a Gilgamesh-y period piece. But seeing it as YEC propaganda is saddening. Anthropologically, it'd be fascinating.

[@raptoid2518]

Or having it the various things from that point in history either as they really were or as The Bible described them. A hall with suits of armor that are historically accurate to what the civilizations at the time would have worn. Something like that would be cool because you could have a recreation of Goliath's weapons and armor that's accurate to how it was described. You could have historically accurate recreations of what parts of Babylon would have looked like at the time. You can have depictions of what the tabernacle, the temple, or King Solomon's throne room could have looked like. It would be something that would be cool to go to not only for religions sake, but even just for for seeing historically accurate stuff. I sure as hell would go to something like that and I don't consider myself really religious at all.

[@gazeboist4535]

​@@raptoid2518 Or maybe something showing how, say, the Judges would have been pictured by people in different periods, starting from Iron Age II and going through to the Persian period or even the Great Jewish Revolt, just to show the span of human time represented by this collection of stories.

[@madtabby66]

I enrolled in a class called "Christ through the ages" listed under history. I walked in thinking ooh, cool class on how Jesus was portrayed throughout history! Nope a 3 credit class, at a public university, trying to convince everyone that Jesus obviously existed because his story has been around so long.

[@gazeboist4535]

​@@madtabby66 I mean hey, there was probably a lieutenant of John the Baptist who got all apocalyptic, and there was probably a dude who got crucified, so it's not like it was all made up 400 years later...

[@naurahdeatrisyagitany8365]

@@madtabby66 He probably did exist. The miracles are another story entirely. Also, he's not that special considering there were other Jewish miracle workers contemporaneous to him. He just happened to lucked his way into starting a long-lasting religion

[@draelyc]

I'm a huge fan of your work and have been for some time ... but as a priest with a degree in anthropology, I have to say how much I personally appreciated your disclaimer at the beginning, distinguishing between "Young Earth Creationists," as a particular group, on one hand, and "religious folks in toto," on the other. Might not seem like a huge deal to many people, but it really is, and way too many folks don't take the time to see the distinction. Major props!

[@TourettesMajestic]

One of my favourite teachers at my Catholic high school was a science teacher, who straight up said “LADIES! Religion and science don’t have to be enemies” (I’m paraphrasing here) and then went on to explain how one can be both religious and believe in facts. I miss her, great teacher.

[@lethargogpeterson4083]

My high school biology teacher said something like "Science says what. Religion says who."

[@ElkHeart4Dinner]

​@@lethargogpeterson4083I like "Science can answer who, what, where, and when, but never the ultimate why." Ultimate purpose (in the existential sense) is the only question that can't ever truly be answered by good science.

[@Whatlander]

Normally I'm wary of any broad statement that opens with "Ladies!" but that sounds pretty tight. Glad you had a good teacher who left such a positive impression on you.

[@Edmund-od7mv]

I've watched so much Awful Archeology now that I can snap my fingers to the exact beats as the words appear/vanish. No regrets, this series is epic.Keep up the great stuff, Milo.

[@benjamindodge6078]

"thats enough time talking about ken ham and his homoerotic boat" had me dying ☠️

[@Dw5653]

As a resident of Glen Rose, who has never visited the creationist museum, thanks for giving me the PERFECT EXCUSE TO GO. I'm just gonna do a little more research then spend a day roaming the exhibits while LOUDLY refuting their "evidence". It's gonna be so fun.

[@alisaurus4224]

It’s a great place just for a hike & nature reasons, but I’d be interested to find out if the museum is as dinky and shoddy as it was in the 90s. Not interested enough to drive down there & give them my money, but I’d certainly love to hear your report!

[@brianedwards7142]

I live in South Australia. One day I found a rock on the bike path and, having just watched David Attenborough expounding on the Ediacaran deposits thought I had found a very rare jellyfish fossil so I went into the museum where the nice man didn't laugh at me as he explained what manganese dendrites are. Lots of things look like fossils but they aren't.

[@opaline2093]

shoutout to that nice man

[@brianedwards7142]

@@opaline2093 Indeed.

[@Probablyademon]

still a cool rock though

[@Blake900]

Dude, I just absolutely love you. You are doing your job so damn well and keeping it entertaining. Thank you.

[@xionmitsuki5713]

To quote the 4 Doctor: "through all of history the very powerful and the very stupid have 1 thing in common: they don't alter their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views. Which gets pretty scary when you happen to be one of the facts that need to be altered."

[@voxangelaemortis]

I was expecting to hear some mention of the fact that the Ark Encounter had to temporarily close and then filed for insurance support due to damage from excessive rain in the area. Because if there is anything that atheists and deities equally enjoy, it is irony. (Also, the put velociraptors in the ark, but the unicorns were left to drown. Rude. Just rude.)

[@Ghoulza]

if they had dinosaurs in the ark why did they die out in the flood? thought their whole argument was they died in the flood and that's why we have their fossils and why none exist today

[@mikkosimonen]

@@Ghoulza What I've heard is that dinosaurs didn't die out until the Middle Ages when they, at the time called dragons, were hunted into extinction by humans.

[@AreGeeBee]

@@mikkosimonen And yet nobody ever taxidermied one...man, creationists are cray cray

[@bennnoboyo5238]

@@AreGeeBee I don’t really believe dinosaurs lived to that time, but IF they did, taxidermy wouldn’t have even been as good as it is now. It was very crude back then. as I did say, I think the dinosaurs died when the meteor or something struck.

[@snekthatmaybeadragon]

Oh, I'd love to know how much flood damage that place took.. would be so fun to read where all the "building instructions" failed XD

[@galaxythepanda]

There once was a man named Baloo, He then found a petrified shoe, It's 10,000 years old, At least that's what he told, Though we all know it's not quite that new.

[@eurosaamie]

Perfect

[@DocBree13]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@DocBree13]

Fantastic!

[@andrearupe8094]

Thank you friend 💚

[@AlyInk]

Regarding the creationist museum next to a dinosaur park, that's not actually exclusively American. In Drumheller Alberta, next to Dinosaur Provincial Park, there used to also be a creationist museum. Its not there anymore though, the guy didnt pay his taxes, the creationist museum got reposessed, and all his crappy dinosaur sculptures are now scattered haphazardly around the town with fantastic paint jobs, including my personal favourite the pride-ceratops. A triceratops painted with the progress pride flag. Its amazingly stupid.

[@willdabeastIam]

Holy shit. Calgary boy here, spent so much time at the Royal Tyrell as a kid. I had no idea that's where all those sculptures came from; that's utterly hilarious.

[@PotatoesAreMagic]

That's the origin story?! That's amazing-I grew up in Medicine Hat and we went to Drumheller all the time!