AWFUL Tailgate Gravel Spreading versus AWESOME Spreading!!

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[@PineyGroveHomestead]

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[@jimbo4375]

First one the aggregate was caked together, second one looked drier.

[@curtislashon3557]

Facts this guy is onto something

[@mikemcniel3086]

Exactly

[@snorkeldorktheconqueror9580]

An experienced driver would solve that problem. 1st driver just needs some time.

[@Mr.Safety.]

​@snorkeldorktheconqueror9580 do you... yonow what nevermind

[@snorkeldorktheconqueror9580]

@@Mr.Safety., you'd have to do the job to actually understand experience.

[@jcnme]

The difference between a Wet Load and a Dry Load.

[@Wes.berryman313]

Two different trucks two different types of material

[@MortallyConfused]

Skill doesn’t really care about material or truck

[@ke6gwf]

​@@MortallyConfused if the material is clumped, the best driver in the world can't spread it smoothly lol

[@ItsPeek]

@@MortallyConfused yeah stick to memes

[@dabd8175]

​@@MortallyConfused😂 idoit

[@norml.hugh-mann]

Has as much to do with the moisture content of the load as the driver

[@poorlittlebiker6476]

Part of learning new skills is learning the new skills.

[@hotrod102]

I've seen drivers that can spread whole driveways without one rock out of place. Amazing!

[@rpalmer274]

Its a lot harder then it looks there buddy

[@lsxs10e90]

That first truck wasn't running a vibrator to keep the rock all at the bottom

[@perrylankford4269]

I didn't have a vibrator on my bed and could spread like tge second person.. It takes practice and experience..

[@AquaTech225]

@@perrylankford4269 that an how slick yore bed actually is. A lot of trucks dealing with just crap like that has slick Berliner inserts in their trucks also so it can slide a lot smoother out the back

[@Florida239]

@@AquaTech225you can diesel the bed too

[@Kt-xn7db]

This relies a great deal on the condition of the gravel. If it is wet, you can imagine how it hangs up in the box. Also, temperature will affect it. If it is partially frozen or is a different temp than the box, you can diesel down the bix lining before loading and that will help to keep it from hanging up. Any driver knows that.

[@scottlowman.1044]

That's what skid steers & bulldozers are for.

[@therealrubbertramp2151]

You don't say. It's that apple to orange thing. Sand never spreads well.Gravel is denser, therefore comes out of the bed more consistently.

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

but each truck has the same load that came from the same quarry at the same time...

[@ke6gwf]

​@@PineyGroveHomestead looks like one get loaded from a much wetter side of the pile. When it clumps like that, it isn't going to flow smoothly no matter who's driving.

[@Will-tp1pd]

​@@ke6gwf facts. These landscaping folks never seen the inside of a rock yard. First truck got the wet stuff on the top of the pile. The second load was so much drier it was a whole different shade of tan.

[@bush600r2]

​@@ke6gwfwhen you have a wetter load and or a bit sticky or lumpy you need to open the chains a tad more and drive a little faster to compensate. The main problem of the first guy was he put the deck up to quick causing the material to bunch up and come out the way it does. With wet loads there is even more care needed to progressively lift your deck. He could have opened his chains a tad more would have helped also.

[@ke6gwf]

@@bush600r2 and if he didn't know that this was a wetter and stickier load, and he assumed that it was the same dry stuff that he had been hauling all day and would spread just like the other truck, he would not know to set his chains differently, and if he HAD set his chains differently, and it had been the dry stuff, he would have spread way too thick.

[@PTRRanger951]

Two different materials. But two different needs to. That much out like the first one is probably for filling a large area right there and will be spread around. The controlled one is when your basically dropping it down a length of roadway that’s already prepped and can just be rolled right after.

[@benjaminterblanche4860]

And that's why we love Bobcats ❤❤❤

[@brianstratton8767]

That's what I call 'em too; some wankus insisted that they're ' skid steers ' :/

[@terrysmall6337]

Depends on how wet or damp the material is also. And how much screening is added. Not good to compare drivers

[@thomaskirkpatrick4031]

I watched an old timer at a friend's house. He had a log that he dropped in the dump body right it the middle, he opened the gate and started driving. The log kept the stone from coming out in the middle of the driveway where it wasn't needed. This was a 1/4 mile plus long driveway, no raking needed. I never saw that done before or since.

[@papawhelp]

The driver who delivered the gravel for my driveway did this so well I didn't even have to dress it up afterwards...

[@Psycho222a]

Well thank god you put this on here, i bet your a profectionist right?

[@travisslaughter5649]

All depends on how dry the product is.

[@timothypowell5687]

That's not all the drivers fault. A good example is like the difference between salt and pepper. Salt will run out, pepper u have to shake. But it IS in knowing how far to set ur chains for the material u are spreading. Just saying.

[@ingamej21994]

All about how much moisture is in the material even the best can’t spread wet gravel it packs up against the gate

[@joeseabert8391]

My unit had an aggregate spreader that attached to our dumps. I operated the distributor, one time we build a road and we didn’t have access to washed rock. I was so happy to being in the distributor getting covered in tar than the guys on the spreader sweating their asses off and being covered in dust.

[@jeffstandish5226]

They were different materials and different trucks.

[@brucejedwabny3473]

Wet material verses dryer and starting out in the right gear verses wrong gear.

[@johnwade5747]

All of that skipping spots could’ve been eliminated if he had raised his bed much higher in the beginning. If you see a truck with a long rope on the release lever, chances are the driver knows how to spread rock. If he has a short rope or no rope at all have a backhoe handy.

[@johnwade5747]

If he had anticipated that curve to the right and hung a little tighter toward it he would’ve took the rock over to the edge where it is needed. If anything rock works his way back out of a curve instead of over into a curve. I did this job for 31 years with a single axle.

[@janscheer4748]

Friend of mine did my driveway, used a garden rake to smooth it out

[@richardbause2453]

How high you raised the bed has alot to doing the spread. Once you start rolling, you pop your gate, watch your mirror, and keep a steady drive forward raising the box the rest of the way.

[@mikecorsmeier9203]

Just focus on the safe driving part. And dumping your load will become 2nd nature.

[@scottrooker3423]

Takes practice

[@jasminelindros8923]

The driver can't control how much water has been added to his/her load, either at the plant or during transit.

[@fretfarm]

It probably wasn't the first time that second driver spread that load... Whe all need tho learn new skills, give people time to do so.

[@Robert-tt5tg]

One thing it takes an experienced driver the other thing is he have to have the tailgate chained

[@VTKingdomsawing]

Bunch of armchair pros in the comments who never drove a dump truck before

[@nikfish1]

Literally explains it in the full video that one load was left in more of a pile on purpose.

[@jordanjones3312]

All you need to do to be like the second guy is to set your chains on the tailgate right and keep on raising the bed as you go and don't stop until it's all out

[@terryanderson4366]

The difference is not the driver. Truck having more difficulty had a dented floor not allowing slippery release. The truck spreading smoothly had a much smoother slippery floor, less dented. Also dryer and more aggregate makes for smooth spread. Driver not at fault.

[@dalewall8550]

Saves a lot of time and labor.....

[@saillak]

Does his job correctly & efficiently

[@SupermanJH68]

That’s why God invented Yellow Tractors. Finish Graders are the best.

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

yellow?

[@ToyManFlyer1100]

..😊😊😊.."Hey...Mr. George....How much you pay the new guy..."

[@bush600r2]

Yes the 1st one was terrible and the second one was pretty good but both of them had gravel pouring over the top of the tail gate which means he's lifting up the tub to quick. To get it right and down to a fine art it needs to be smooth and progressive, with a smooth consistent spread and you shouldn't have one spec of stone sitting on the top of your tail gate when your finished if you have done it right.

[@ke6gwf]

If you watch carefully, both beds are at about the same angle, but one load clumps up and doesn't flow, while the other flows smoothly. This indicates to me that one load is wetter, higher clay content, higher Fines percentage, etc than the other, and it's not just a driver skill issue, though it's easy to ridicule the driver who got the short straw and got loaded from the sticky side of the quarry pile as a bad driver. And even if it somehow WAS all the driver's fault, I promise you that the first few times that the second guy did this didn't look as pretty as this video, it takes years of practice to get that good, and insulting the driver who hasn't had that much practice is just rude and pointless. I spent years driving dump truck, and very rarely ever was called to spread it, so I never had the chance to get good at this, not because I was bad, but because I had no practice.

[@nicholassherer8785]

First load was clumping up. Can be the best driver on the planet but can’t spread material that’s clumping up

[@jimbob8969]

First guy had more sand and clay and it was damp. Second guy had more aggregate not sticky.

[@whipwhiphco9430]

In all fairness dump trucks were made to dump not spread. But rock on

[@1BigMistakee]

Difference between a dry load or a weat load, too.

[@skibble02]

Everyone: "it's wet vs dry" Me: "Why's this guy got his gate chains so loose, why aren't you lifting the bed, drive dude drive...

[@kevbev1524]

I used to be the best load spreader on the jobsite, just ask any of the female forepersons or female flaggers in company 😊

[@robertmaloy838]

Set the chains?

[@jethsears161]

Young trucking in Bloomington, In driver Dusty Hawkins can spread stone like no other he is the best . When he brings stone to my house I tell him just dump it in a pile . Then we talk for the time he would of been speaking it . .

[@somerandomguy9414]

All got to start somewhere

[@abinasht.7061]

You can also say that not all gravel is equal.

[@chadvandiver4233]

sometimes I will raise the bed and back up a little bit and hit the brakes to make sure the load settles to the gate

[@eprofessio]

The first guy had eight links on the chain second guy had five.

[@mandosanchez4666]

Its the material!

[@lonesome710]

Some got a feel for it some dont

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

he was embarrassed

[@mikemc41]

Gee I wonder why those chains are on each side of the tailgate? Could one reason be to set the tailgate to open just enough to spread the load evenly?

[@Asphaltaperider]

It's always easier to pour on a flat surface. Apples to oranges.

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

huh? It's the same driveway.

[@nahhh5318]

Also two different materials lol, that stuff at the end came out of the desert

[@Firstlastname69]

The first was clumped in truck. So nice try

[@mykell2100]

Oh the drive is supposed to do the job the guys on the ground

[@bongothaplant4730]

it was wet, not necessarily his fault

[@jefffowlerr]

Water plays a part

[@DaleJacaway]

What is do not push about? I’ve seen it on lots of trucks

[@TheTruckinFarmer]

It's to keep operators from pushing on your gate when your stuck or when the gate is open when they load you. If you forgot to lock before they dump material in the box. It's easier to clear the material then lock it then fix a bent gate.

[@brucemann7042]

So true

[@mikemeyers4016]

It’s the material guys😢

[@darrellblanchard2362]

Different material

[@johnfairchild3421]

Wet. Versus. Dry

[@jameswilson4708]

most drivers can't spread

[@Kytw]

The temperature wasn't right

[@anthonyreddy2834]

Tighten the Chains 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@InkedUpHonda]

Same driver different material

[@michaeltaylor9080]

Not a fair comparison

[@jracer77]

Material. Not the driver

[@patrickancona1193]

Apple’s & oranges son

[@thedave3704]

1st load was wet.

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

Same exact loads....directly from the quarry.

[@AquaTech225]

One had previously wet crap that dried some an caked. The other had nice loose dry material to work with. An the truck pretty likely could of had a slick bed liner insert also just for the stuff to slide to be able to unload in that manor when possible. Edit: never mind didn’t see any liner in the second one. Just drier looser material

[@clarenceyeargan4512]

Flex base

[@Shogomockid]

Don’t look to be the same material

[@allen3272]

Looks like dirt to me! Is it base? Or hard pack?

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

road base

[@coreyshelleyvervoort]

That’s cause buddy didn’t put or have any chains on lol

[@Enviousttv]

yes he did

[@Dan1885]

Just tip the body up higher

[@stevekight1955]

Dirt and gravel don't spread the same.

[@7628739]

Experience

[@thedistance871]

Yes first guy is bad but you dont always want your gravel spread for you

[@terrysmall6337]

Cheap customers always want something done for them. I refuse to gate spread unless it’s my job

[@Wiehed67]

Use your chains

[@brockryan3405]

I thought you were bragging about the first load!!! LOL. I was unimpressed.

[@robertryan4485]

Now that's the difference between a green guy and a old truck driver

[@georgejohnson5903]

Looks like dirt

[@shanestanton5481]

The material on the first truck was trash

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

same exact material on both trucks.

[@shanestanton5481]

@@PineyGroveHomestead I owed dumps. That first load was full of moisture and stick together

[@bigdaddystep.]

Ask me if I care

[@erickanuho4996]

They were both awful. The second one laid it down like 2ft thick. Haha.

[@gillgetter3004]

That’s what dozers are for 😊

[@Storrmblast]

Not the same material pekerheads 😂

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

wrong. exactly the same.

[@scottjays360s.johnson2]

Shit happens.

[@TheBrushcutter]

It's all about dem chains and dat speed.

[@Crewsy]

It’s more the difference of the material in the truck than the driver but go ahead and think one driver is better if you want. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@warrenlilly2091]

one is stone the other is crush and run!

[@peted5217]

Internet BS

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

what does that even mean?