Axe-Fx III v DIezel VH4 | Amp Matching Tutorial

[@peterharvin2775]

What I love about these Fractal tutorials of yours is that despite the fact that I do not own an Axe FX, I always find thought provoking techniques in there that serve as a springboard to things I might do with my Line 6 gear. So once again, thanks.

[@picksalot1]

Same 👍

[@LeonTodd]

That's really awesome to hear mate. I'm glad it's valuable across platforms!

[@fekiee]

Man please more of these match videos with the Axe Fx, awesome video Sr.

[@LeonTodd]

Of course!

[@ZackRappMusic]

You hit the nail on the head as far as how necessary the tone match even ended up being. I love that the feature exists (more options is always better) but I usually find that the amp models are so close that you can close that last bit of the gap just by tweaking the amp block a bit. I feel like you end up with a more "natural" sound that way anyways.

[@LeonTodd]

Same!

[@TheOtherJohnBrowne]

I can't wait to line the FM3 up against my Diezels. This has got me very excited

[@jackmeginniss6327]

Hi Leon. I’ve really enjoyed your Fractal tutorials through the years and this one was no exception. Great stuff. Keep em’ coming. Thanks.

[@LeonTodd]

Awesome, thank you!

[@eds4754]

Nicely done! I did a similar thing recently but splitting the DI signal to both the real amp and model, and then using the multiplex mapped to a footswitch to A/B. Global controls mapped to balance master volume and overall level, and Tone Match block for a 2nd pair of ears. Works pretty well!

[@LeonTodd]

Great way to do it!

[@Team512]

Yes! Leon you’re a legend. I now know how I’m spending my Friday. I have a Diezel D-Moll that needs to be matched. Will be using my Two Notes Captor X. I see there’s an impedance curve for this load box.

[@LeonTodd]

Yeah having the two notes and ox mashed things a lot easier as they're so common

[@Team512]

The Herbert is probably the closest to the D-Moll…we’ll see how close.

[@paulbradshawguitar]

very cool stuff, glad to see how close the Fractal unit is ,that tone match block is killer for that, i might get a VH4 on loan in the next weeks, see how that shapes up with the FM3 and other settings, but it'll be the same no doubt very good points on speaker/cab block and how close you want to get it and also is that even relevant, if the tone is exactly what you want are you going to demo Bren's pedalboard as well? you gotta weigh it on some scales just for the video😄

[@LeonTodd]

YEah hopefully next week! CRAZY board. Sounds mint!

[@Gauudyy]

I’m looking into getting a modeler, heavily leaning towards fractal fm9.. although I have a question regarding the tone match feature, I know I wouldn’t be able to tone match with the fm9 but, can I use tone match presets from other creators? Any help from anyone is appreciated!

[@johnstone1526]

I hope your being well compensated!

[@Tiger1016.]

Very timely and helpful. I am in the process of trying to see how close I can get with matching my Wizards amps in the Axe Fx III. Not sure how much you liked these amps when you did the demos with Zen Amplification. I have gotten pretty close with trying to match my MCI and the next step was to venture into trying out Tone Matching. My understanding from just a casual level of research is TM is just a corrective, static EQ only that adjust frequency levels but it won't adjust thinks like punch, compression, tightness, gain, distortion character, etc. Is that correct? I have a decently long thread going on the forums and I have made all of the relevant edits to push the Friedman BE V1 model to where I am trying to get chasing the massive punch, big 3D but tight bottome end, raw, dry, uncompressed, and ripping attack. I'm quite close at this point and TM should help with fine tuning the EQ. But I was expecting I would need to turn to the expander/reverse compression options outside of the amp block for the final steps (i.e. Multiband Compressor and Dynamic Distortion block) while also revisiting some other baseline amp models as I have not left any stone unturned on deep tweaking the advanced amp block parameters. Does that seem right to you? It might take me a few weeks until I have enough time to focus on the final steps for the MCI match and also trying to tackle matching the low mid and mids of my MTL. I will post the final presets, a write up on the deep dive edits, and video comparison once it's all said and done.

[@LeonTodd]

I really liked the Wizards at the Zen vault. Super fun to play and easy to dial in!

[@shaharbar]

Leon, have you made any NAM captures? Really digging Two Notes Genome as a NAM interface.

[@LeonTodd]

There's a capture of my Mark IV floating around. Haven't done many as I had a ballache of a time getting the training to work.

[@jamesnorton7601]

Now breakout the Randall and you'll be in similar territory. I think we need to bring back Randall

[@TSBII]

It appears the only difference is just minute details in sound from your particular Diezel VH4 and the Fractal emulation created using their Diezel VH4. Fractal is amazing. I would love to hear and see this type of comparison for the Hiwatt. The Hiwatt Fractal emulation gives me the heebie jeebies, especially using the Alex Lifeson reverb from the Fractal Gift of Tone series.

[@lookmanostrings]

Will this preset bundle work on fm9, señor?? 🤔

[@daveklein6585]

This is insanity... Is this also possible on the FM9 or just the AxeFX3??

[@LeonTodd]

FM9 has the same amp models but not the tone match block - not that it's needed :p

[@daveklein6585]

@@LeonTodd Yeah,.. that's what I was hoping for,.. that tone match block.

[@Danielguit]

In the preset there's no TMA block. Is not needed, right? THANK YOU SO MUCH !!

[@LeonTodd]

Correct

[@Cherry_Sunburst]

Nice, nice.

[@LeonTodd]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@donovanroybal]

Do you already have a video on the breakdown of what all those settings do in the amp block sections? I've never really touch anything beyond the first two tabs on the amp block cuz I honestly dont even know what they do lol Would love to see a video of you going over all that

[@TheDeedeeFiles]

Awesome amp

[@LeonTodd]

It really is!

[@johnbach2380]

I love Diezels... I love my axe FX III. So much love. 🤣

[@Androidrh93]

Interesting tone match functionality, when fractal implements amp captures the processors' game will be over

[@heavybrett-al4082]

😮 you totally made a clone of the amp! So cool the FM3 has that spectrum analysis section. Arrrgh wish a fractals came up on gumtree in my area.,for cash😢

[@ScreamingStevenHoward]

With the axe sounding so close to the real amp these days, what advice would you give to a guy doing 60 to 80 shows a year that had four back surgeries, but could finally afford any rig he wanted? Feel is important.

[@LeonTodd]

Get an FM9 and either a high quality FRFR or a decent pet amp and compact cab. Done. I've done over 100 shows so far this year running the FM straight to FOH and it's amazing.

[@mirelroberts7007]

It smells pretty good😅😂 I'm going to smell my amps now haha

[@LeonTodd]

It does!

[@janrichescabungcal8448]

We have fm9?

[@LeonTodd]

The amp models are the same but the FM9 doesn't have the tone match block. You could use something like Fabfilter Pro-Q3 in your DAW to match the frequency response though.

[@janrichescabungcal8448]

@@LeonTodd so no update soon comming to the same the axe?

[@LeonTodd]

@@janrichescabungcal8448 they've never mentioned bringing the tone match block to the floor processors. I think this is a pretty good example that it's not really that necessary given how accurate the amps are