The Strangest State in SSBM

[@emmbeesea]

I would've thought the strangest state in Melee would be North Carolina, but this makes more sense.

[@swishing5568]

ROFL this made me laugh kinda hard

[@clemmm.]

lmaooo

[@dcscorch969]

could someone explain the joke?

[@siggycertified]

The sky is blue.

[@calvino6949]

@@dcscorch969 It's where they stack it up.

[@griffinmomsen-hudson2046]

Shoutouts to all my low level players who didn't really learn anything to implement from this video

[@christopheraustin1173]

There is so much knowledge here, and so little ability to implement it in any meaningful way.

[@TPBvirus]

I mean you should've at least learned how knockdown works, so you can then work from there to figure out things like tech chases or punishes. As well as learning the inner workings of how jab reset works which is vital for most of the cast as theres some punish that begins with a jab reset ie puff: jab-reset > rest, fox: jab-reset > up-smash, falcon: jab-reset > combo starter, shiek: jab-reset > down-throw, etc

[@Skapes11238]

Spectator here, I just want to be able to watch and instantly understand exactly why players do certain things or how certain interactions work. Makes the already sick gameplay even better

[@DerpsGW]

The jab reset stuff on whether you could roll is definitely intuitively implementable.

[@tkri]

I don't even play melee and there's no way I would ever remember this while watching a tourney lol It's just interesting and fun to watch I suppose

[@DarkwingDuc]

Bold of you to assume that I am able to wait a precise amount of frames instead of randomly pressing buttons.

[@jarroddobben]

"Oh what's your major?" "Honours double major in melee tech and astrophysics. But I think I'm gonna drop the physics because I don't have time to study for it after I'm done all my melee homework."

[@busterdrawls8514]

i need a 10 hour lo-fi vid of hax$ explaining advanced melee tech in his sultry deep voice

[@lukenawrocki5042]

This is actually such a good idea

[@Elundis]

Kinda like the music Akira the Don makes.

[@reyminder]

shout out aziz for making this video 60fps, black text cards never looked so smooth

[@lightbrand_]

Hahahaha, you got me good

[@elvissimo]

Hax: instead of hitting him at frame 5, wait exactly one frame later and hit him at frame 6 if you're attacking with falco back air me: y-yes...sir... *feebly fumbles with controller*

[@xx-cj6ew]

Me: *misses L-Cancel, air dodges off ledge, dies*

[@datmouseb]

I don't even play melee but I love seeing people go all the way into systems like this

[@CharlotteMimic]

ooh! you should try [kzbin.info/www/bejne/naDElWWfn611e5o] and the other 0x A press videos (mostly by kzbin.info ), if you haven't already!

[@IAm-zo1bo]

@@CharlotteMimic dude wtf are those videos

[@connorthornberg]

You'd probably also love the video about the Peach Break the Targets World Record: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJ-uiH5_eLqkjbc Its an hour long but its so fascinating that it doesn't feel like it

[@LunarySSF2]

"transitions directly into get-up if the attack deals less than 13 hitstun" now i understand why Falcon can jab reset himself but not spacies Falcon's jab does 14h on Fox and Falco so they can buffer roll away and avoid the forced getup however it does 13h on Falcon and Sheik it also does 13h on Marth but Marth's lower gravity can't compensate for the knockback, so he avoids the jab reset a difference of just one frame in terms of hitstun could've made the Falcon vs spacies MU *much* easier lol

[@NonRandomUser]

Remember the old days of Melee where frame data for moves/getup was already considered holy knowledge? It's come a long way in twenty years.

[@Tyler-du3yl]

Nobody can say this isn't the most nuanced fighting game of all-time..

[@trouncerrredits]

you might be right but let me try: "this is the most nuanced fighting game of all-time" nope. it just auto-corrected every time i tried.

[@sinisterhiss]

Aziz is so thoroughly a Fox main now that I can only imagine he did something hugely symbolic like throw his electric guitar into a volcano after staring into it pensively for 8 minutes when he made the decision to drop Falcon for good.

[@trouncerrredits]

it was a mirror. to this day, he still doesn't know if it was he that shattered it, or his reflection.

[@TheMonarchOfTetris]

This is such an indepth video. It's crazy that melee is still be analyzed to such a high level to this very day. Love the content Hax.

[@drewmetra]

Great video Hax!! I love your channel and these scripts! Just a small grammar correction if i may. You should say, for example, 'if he HAD entered downdamage...' instead of 'if he WOULD HAVE entered downdamage...' The formula for the past conditional comes in two parts: 'if he had ____, he would have _______' and sometimes we mix them up. Cheers!

[@doggo6131]

8:07 It seems Yoshi just bounces off the air molecules

[@acr1327]

Hax uploads execution testing me seeing how fast i can click on 'em

[@blackghostcat]

I swear, eventually melee players gonna be able to count frames during gameplay

[@dunK1x]

Thats pretty much what every high skilled melee player does to get frame perfect execution

[@Alex-sq8xm]

I was hoping there would be a joke about how the Arizona smash scene is the strangest state in SSBM

[@Pslamist]

Strangest, in some ways, but we're also one of the most community-driven, in my opinion.

[@jactotum]

I can't express enough how much you do for the nouveux melee scene. Every Doc kid and rollback scrub trying to get better at the game needs to watch your videos. You're doing a great thing for the community.

[@Maquox]

Master Hax$, I see your findings hitting the mainstream in 2 years. Godspeed.

[@ParagonPKC]

Holy moly I mean I knew you could tipper the bounce but I did not know the game states behind it

[@tariqalsuhaibany2056]

Finally someone made sense of one of the most mysterious aspects of melee. Thank you Senpai

[@Jfoltz39]

these melee lectures are so sleek. thanks hax

[@zsdghl]

Y'know, these videos make me question whether anyone loves Melee as much as Hax

[@jacintotamez8597]

Tyler nice profile pic, probably my 2nd favorite ELO album

[@versutus2699]

Hax back with the easy to understand educational content. Picked up right where you left off and the quality still as good as ever

[@doggles9285]

bro I was literally just wandering why dair shine wouldn't work sometimes, and why they would become actionable so fast after getting hit with shine. thanks hax

[@setstage]

If the staleness adds multiplicatively then the actual percent down would be ~38% down or 62.8% of original attack strength with 9 stales. It would only be 45 if the percents were added and then multiplied and maybe they are I’m honestly not sure but it matters for the math.

[@kidsmitty94]

omg ive honestly been wondering about why fox looks like that when he gets shined

[@2saint]

All my questions with this game have been answered

[@CharlotteMimic]

I recently picked up Falcon and have been frustrated at the "randomness" of getting a follow-up off of stomp after missed tech. This helps a lot! I'm not good enough to take advantage of the anti-floorhugging technique in the same way, say, Leffen or Hbox are, but now I know to at least try and aim for the aerial frames of GroundBound when using nonspike moves ^_^

[@rangodash]

You.....picked up falcon? Why?

[@CharlotteMimic]

@@rangodash for fun! My hands and brain aren't fast enough for Fox, but I wanted a change from Marth, and Falcon's combo game is really satisfying (and pretty easy lol)

[@Pslamist]

@@CharlotteMimic - It's really easy to fall in love with his movement.

[@CharlotteMimic]

@@Pslamist he's so cool! It took me a while to understand that being on a platform wasn't a bad thing - Marth so seldomly wants to be anywhere other than the ground

[@kegstandjesus]

God damn you nailed the editing at 9:05. Most videos would have played them both at the same time side by side. God bless. I see u ✊😔

[@yelv]

Hax before: Here’s how you can live forever in melee Hax now: Jab reset is deeper than you think.

[@phil_matic]

Honestly, with all the things that were learned about Melee since its release, you could make a college course following it and that still won't be enough time to learn everything

[@64kamui]

This videos are awesome hax! I research stuff on smash 64 and always get new ideas to test from your vids. Btw, in smash 64 characters always stay grounded during no-tech. Usually the mechanics are much more simple.

[@rocketchris853]

when i heard him say "knock" in the beginning, I immediately thought he was about to say a knock knock joke.

[@X0v3r]

Love ur in depth melee info hax. Keep up the good work

[@nickstoltz8817]

100% quality no bullshit, hard research that he's sharing with the community. This kind of commitment is rare in the present day.

[@jrkb89]

Bro idk wtf you saying but I enjoy your voice. Liked

[@riosol8950]

Thank you so much. I never knew why people would fly out of my shine sometimes ;]

[@maffooo2040]

I love these videos so much man

[@sagacious03]

Very informative & interesting! Thanks for uploading!

[@bridji3748]

The Pannenkoek2012 of Melee

[@sandygast9766]

Hax be like: In conclusion Fox has the best getup

[@johnleecooper8520]

at last we''ve come full circle to missing techs being bad again

[@blakemcgill8406]

Fantastic work man.

[@zekehorsman9532]

I’ve always wondered why that happens when falco shines half to time thanks hax

[@ConnorRentz]

Glad we're back! :D

[@jessehoag6770]

Great video for a ice climber main! Keep it up 👍

[@bruceU]

this actually explains so much about jab resets dependence on states that i should have already known

[@sonesofficial]

Shoutout to my colorblind melee players who cant read the graphs in this video

[@acidwash.anakin]

Bruh I was floorhugging and didn’t even know it! This makes so much sense! Thank you!

[@eftorq]

I’ll watch this video inside, the wind makes it too hard to hear

[@gaugea]

hax vids so goddamn good

[@InsertChannelHere]

Fucking love your videos and everything you bring to Melee. Even love your clickbait ass titles. You have like a patreon or something I know Hax fucking money doesn't need handouts but I'd love a method to show my support other than the unwavering love and passion we share for this game.

[@michaelriccio6012]

So does the ecb not matter when using spike/meteor moves? The was it was phrased made it seem like the only thing that mattered for these moves was the fact that they were airborne frames.

[@turndownforwalt]

hey hax ur handsome

[@clutchedbyanangel]

5:27 Hold UP? Blasphemy.

[@saraht6143]

High quality content, thank you hax for sharing with us how to kill fox better (Y)

[@SleepayGui]

Anyone know if hitlag is variable? The final examples made it sound like they are but I wouldn’t be surprised if they also scaled based on stuff like stale moves

[@Ignes27]

my god hax, you're doing the lord's work

[@ajko000]

Hell yeah new video

[@0tf850]

Is this the counter to the recent slide off meta development?

[@correadoggsten]

yup

[@NicholasSunderland]

SICK

[@Mepphy99]

Cool tech but Should these really work normally or It Is Just a "melee Is a broken game" situation?

[@Nagstersept109868]

I swear to god this game is some sort of massive government, illuminatti, or alien conspiracy. It's too ridiculous to just be a video game.

[@MrTacticalinuit]

Knockdown is the Florida of melee

[@thebigawesome9101]

the becoming actionable after shine thing has been happening to me all the time. Now i know why (its because I spam shine).

[@jadchi]

Thanks

[@jacobjohns6806]

Could you sdi or asdi down to deny the floor hug denial?

[@whong09]

Y'all really out here researching melee like it's the cure to cancer. I love it.

[@CLSharpman5000]

When did Amsah Tech get re-branded as "floor hug"?

[@NesDaKid]

to this day, i refuse to believe Melee was an “accident “

[@AssailantLF]

I mean half of the characters are practically unviable competitively, 6 out of 18 stages are tournament legal, and none of the major tech skills (L-cancel, jump cancel, wave dash, etc) are mentioned anywhere in the game or the official manual. Also every sequel Smash game has gone out of its way to either not include, or include + severely nerf any of the cool tech skills from Melee. I think it was overall an accident, although certain high-skill moves that benefit competitive play were added intentionally, like L-canceling and wave dashing.

[@falcolom]

@@AssailantLF wavedashing wasn't intentional, it was a quirk of the physics engine that the devs decided to leave in

[@MaximusXavier]

Came for the Florida, stayed for the knockdown

[@unknown-hj4gh]

You could add your melee mathematics frame perfect into a super advanced AI & challenge real player against it.

[@alexcarlone7967]

Hax Money, PhD.

[@NaJk93]

Melee is turning into a fucking math equation in real time. oh wait, it always was. We are just advancing in the courses the more tech is found.

[@nosocx]

You need a PhD in melee to fully understand it

[@jeffethegamingadvocate2821]

Florida

[@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote]

what are the red ecb’s that trail behind used for?

[@Brawltendo]

Those represent the previous frame’s ECB position, which I believe are used to help calculate and correct the final position of the ECB along with the white outline around the orange one in the front that acts as a prediction of its position to an extent.

[@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote]

Brawltendo thank you

[@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote]

Brawltendo I wanna be able to recreate the system close enough in unity (for fun) so im trying to learn as much as i can about how it’s made

[@Joshuakim378]

Melee is sick

[@myboy_]

This is the gimrs lab of melee

[@ocircles738]

downbound doesn't even sound like anything anymore. downbound. daunbaun. donboun. deoannnnnnnnnnbb

[@dariusmartinez4078]

sick thank you

[@sethswoodruff]

Is this why ness dash attack is the way it is?

[@RareBrink]

tl;dw - use moves that do less than 7% to jab reset, hit people after they bounce off the ground to stop them from floor hugging.

[@MelbournePenguin]

Lol hax is such s Virgo its so awesome how detailed and analytical he is

[@samrandall6623]

It just get deeper

[@marisanya]

So that's how jab resets work

[@richdavis9690]

I love it when you get all dirty with me when talking about melee.

[@JonnyfromElma]

Hax needs someone to help him script and record these videos. The info is great, but an engaging delivery with a couple jokes would catapult these videos to triple the views and instantly enter the melee zeitgeist. Would love to right punchlines and transitions for this shit.

[@Pslamist]

I actually believe they are made exactly the way he wants them to be. He wants the information to speak for itself.

[@robo-rex0239]

Bruh moment

[@joe4570]

why do you get more histun at higher percent?

[@ZachStarAttack]

You just do. The equatiom for hitlad checks the damage and knockbackb a move does. Also, it just looks cooler that way

[@joe4570]

@@ZachStarAttack but that's more hitlag not hitstun?

[@joe4570]

@@ZachStarAttack is that universal? So if i get hit by the same hitbox at 0 and 100 percent I'm in more hitstun at 100 percent?

[@ZachStarAttack]

​@@joe4570 Honestly, just look at all the vid from this guy. Especially this one. He goes so hard into this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWqWd6qbopKhndk

[@charleslucas911]

I fucking love your videos Aziz

[@darwingreenheart]

mfs smash graphs don't have enough annotations edit: ECB - ethereal collision blob

[@futurefox128]

Thanks to this video I successfully managed to miss DK's down-B on an opponent during DownBound ⌉O_o⌈

[@Sadlyevil2000]

Very good for learn nice

[@SledgehammerIRE]

Hey Hax$ you're handsome

[@twopointjumper]

Does he have a twitch?

[@shoutxv]

besides Missouri

[@textede40]

very coo

[@bunterhiden5424]

Hax$ is GOAT