Aztec Perspective on First Contact with Europeans // 16th cent. Florentine Codex // Primary Source

Mountains on the sea that signalled the coming apocalypse. This was the news that terrified the Aztecs and most of all their leader Moctezuma II. Here we have their description of first contact with Europe, researched and written down by Bernardino de Sahagún and the Nahuatl people throughout the second half of the 16th century.
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[@VoicesofthePast]

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[@walta10]

I was gonna ask where is this account front and what language was it written in

[@stuffmorestuff6647]

When we getting the European perspective on first contact with the Aztecs?

[@thegeminiguy1065]

@@stuffmorestuff6647 The Aztecs were Black

[@stuffmorestuff6647]

@Dwayne Shaw after all these months I find out that my comment said description, rather than perspective... well at least now its fixed

[@stuffmorestuff6647]

@Dwayne Shaw so what your saying is this video is a lie?

[@HoundofOdin]

The Aztec: They were strange looking, smelled funny, and did odd ceremonies. The Spanish: They were strange looking, smelled funny, and did odd ceremonies.

[@lopezmonzea12]

Humanity in a nutshell 👏

[@Derlaid]

@@boiiboii6310 Gonna be a rough go for you if this channel ever covers "A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indes"

[@joselugo4536]

A better title for the pamphlet: A Short Account of Incongruities.

[@foreverdreamwithinadream6871]

Basically sums up world history.

[@foreverdreamwithinadream6871]

@@boiiboii6310 They just had the inquisition.

[@crimsonfire6932]

Natives: *sacrifice one of their own to please their European gods* Europeans: dude wtf

[@BlastinRope]

When you visit that weird kids house and his mom tries way too hard to make you feel comfortable

[@saraqostahterra4548]

@@BlastinRope you naughty xD

[@arandompharaoh5549]

@@BlastinRope that's oddly specific

[@LaSpataCaroli]

DEUS VULT

[@blazednlovinit]

Hard to feel bad for them when that's their go to solution to everything.

[@arturocevallossoto5203]

For those who don't know, this accounts are based on interviews some 10 years after the fall of Tenochtitlan. That's why many appear to have that 20/20 hindsight for the prophecies. "It was announced by the heavens!".

[@commentorinchief788]

Do you know how the Mexicans conversed with the Spaniards? Didn’t they speak different languages?

[@Canalbizarrof]

@@commentorinchief788 A Spanish priest had been shipwrecked and got taken in by the Mayans. Cortez first rescued the man, who could talk with Aztecs who knew Mayan.

[@eugenekrabs4016]

NoName true story ?

[@ToastyMozart]

The doomsday prophecies do come off with a distinct feel of hindsight (and perhaps a little confirmation bias).

[@thomas5585]

@@eugenekrabs4016 Geronimo de Aguilar

[@redram5150]

Imagine seeing someone on a horse for the first time. It's the first time you're seeing a horse. Forget it's covered in steel armor. A man like you've never before seen is riding a monster the size of your home.

[@MasMaszu2]

*Every new technology made in a nutshell*

[@redram5150]

I like pies not really

[@MasMaszu2]

@@redram5150 on some people

[@TheT3MK4]

Red Ram virgin horse vs chad elephant

[@automnejoy5308]

Imagine one of the aliens from Independence Day riding on the back of a dragon. It probably felt just like that.

[@eddielloyd1947]

It reads like it could be humanity's first contact with aliens...

[@DeadlycheesePeople]

E Lloyd that’s essentially what it was. They were basically a bronze age civilization coming in contact with a early modern civilization. That tech difference may as well be aliens.

[@eddielloyd1947]

@@DeadlycheesePeople "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistuingishable from magic" sort of thing. Floating mountains = ship of the line, etc. Guns would've seemed out of this world...unatural. It's one hell of a trip.

[@LegionHimself]

Not only in technology, but culture as well. The Spanish ways are clearly completely divergent from the Aztec’s, and they also care nothing about making things easy.

[@Blackknight1212]

@@LegionHimself wtf do you mean they care nothing about making things easy? Speak proper English.

[@Blackknight1212]

No it isn't. The technology gap wasn't big enough for it to have been that crazy. It was a culture shock, sure, but nothing more. They didn't think the Spanish were aliens. Most of the sources this guy uses are from the 17th century and not first hand accounts, of which very few exist. In all of them it is made clear that the Aztecs and other Mesoamerican peoples were well aware that the Spaniards were only men, and that's why they fought them. You don't fight someone you think is a god. Theres also the bigger issue of Aztecs not having anthropomorphic gods like Europeans. Aztecs believed forces of nature were gods that they would make symbols of to represent for worship. They didn't believe in gods turning into flesh and blood like jesus and walking among men. That bs from el dorado is just a fairytale they tell kids.

[@iratepirate3896]

"Their food is... is like human food".

[@VoicesofthePast]

I also enjoyed that line

[@saxonrains]

Was it bread?

[@greenboy1916]

Saxon Rains I imagine some of what they described was, but didn’t some of it sound a bit like a pasta of sorts?

[@abadyr_]

@@saxonrains spaghetti

[@juanjuri6127]

"could use some more spice tho"

[@Habs1967]

Aztecs: What a lovely day. From a far distance: Hola, is this India?

[@BlockheadJiujitsu]

Namaste, yall!

[@SSHitMan]

By this time they knew they were nowhere near India. Columbus was thought a fool not because he thought the world was round, that was well-accepted knowledge. He was thought a fool because he thought the world was much smaller than it actually was, and attempting to sail to India from Spain would result in death because provisions would run out long before they reached it. And they would have, if they had not bumped into the previously unknown American continents.

[@Enry-9624]

@@SSHitMan Wrong, Colombus knew the size of earth. Unfortunately, the maps of the time had a waay larger Asia. And no, he didn't think he was in india but in the indies (general term used by europeans to describe asia). He knew exactly where he was on the wrong map he had.

[@rjfaber1991]

+Enry9624 - The truth is likely somewhere in between. Saying he knew exactly where he was certainly isn't true, as it would be well into the 18th century before naval navigation technology allowed for relatively exact determination of a ship's position on the globe. Still, given the technological limitations of the time, Columbus was indeed quite aware of his position. More to the point though, and going back to the original comment in this thread; by the time the Aztecs first encountered Europeans, it had been years since their first arrival, and years since the realisation they hadn't reached Asia. The Aztecs were only the third major group of natives that the Spanish came into contact with, after the Taino and the Maya.

[@nmvhr]

@Leviathan TM why would it be italian?

[@DrKleMENGIR]

**the Spaniards arrive** Montezuma wants to trade: - 450 🥇 Gold per turn for 30 turns - 🩸Blood of a fresh human sacrifice - 🥑 Avocado for 30 turns

[@cherrydragon3120]

Sounds very civilization to me :P Tho i usualy wreck both spanish AND aztecs :D

[@runforestrunfpv4354]

Smashed toasted Avocado wonder?

[@Variecs]

Blood of a fresh human sounds like a great luxury resource

[@JBGARINGAN]

That's why guacamole is a Hispanic staple!

[@PersonManManManMan]

I see you are a *civilized* man of a culture

[@avanticurecanti9998]

I assume that Spaniards still have laser-eye dogs, iron clothing, and giant deer.

[@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913]

Yes, its called ¨spanish alano¨ or Alano español, and it is terrifiang. Its the Tercios war dog

[@martingarciaarvidson6684]

@@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 damn. Those are some badass looking dogs. Never heard of them before. They straight up look like zombie dogs from resident evil xD

[@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913]

@Timefliesbye undercover wardog then :-)))

[@barbarianjk2355]

@@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 to be fair with the natives I've never seen a more terrifying dog myself, hahah. And I friggen love doges!

[@barbarianjk2355]

@Timefliesbye maybe they either meant stained, or there's a mistranslation of sorts, or the breed looked different back then.

[@SkySumisu]

Everyone gangsta until the magicians fail.

[@captainsternn7684]

Lmao!

[@Shiro-ii6nw]

It really be like that tho, imagine if we meet some advance civilization in the future and our science fails to understand their technology

[@ts25679]

@@Shiro-ii6nw And now you understand H.P. Lovecraft's horror.

[@grifflancer2999]

Ave Maria!

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

A bit like Mike Tyson " Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face"

[@Hodoss]

Aztecs: Quick, human sacrifices to appease the iron gods! Iron gods: *visibly displeased at the sacrifice* Popup message: The Conquistadores will remember that. Aztecs: Ffffffffuuuuuuuck...

[@bahej100]

Thank you for that meme :D

[@Hodoss]

@@bahej100 You're welcome ;-)

[@residentelect]

@@Hodoss I especially enjoyed the "Fffffffuuuuuuck..." Thank you sir 👍

[@MiaEZ]

Unnaturals are ahead saying Fffuuucccchhhhhk now. Times up sunblockers

[@canofsouls282]

The aztecs believing the spanish were gods is a common myth, in reality they believes they were like fairies or elves who dressed weird.

[@eduardodimasjr.2473]

Moctezuma: "Did the spells work?" Magicians: *Well yes, but actually no*

[@jasperzanjani]

Montezuma put his kingdoms fate in the hands of a band of charlatans

[@d4n4nable]

Catholicism gives +100% magic resistance.

[@crazymaniac1396]

Lol lol lol hahaha very funny hahaha lol

[@VojislavMoranic]

@Hoàng Nguyên Its because the Vietnamese has Orthodox Russian instructors and it gives a 50% buff against Papist heretics duh!

[@RedVelvetBlackleather]

Danan Playing as naive usually gives some boost to natural sickness and gives you good endurance; also magic can be a very fun play style, but we all know immunity to magic is the best perk in the game.

[@metalwellington]

ha ha.

[@si4632]

unfortunately queen Elizabeth the first of England beat the Catholics with black magic

[@DeathtoRaiden1]

I can't even imagine how terrifying it must have been to see an armoured mounted man for a people that had no concept of cavalry. Even today if you have ever been near riot police when they make their horses strike the ground with the hooves it is scary.

[@monehget]

Sounds like the whole experience was pretty terrifying for them.

[@pizzapicante27]

Not very much actually, actual native accounts like Tezozmoc and Chimalpain make more note of their clothes being dirty, their faces being very pale and their bushy beard, the Mazatl (they thought hey were riding big deer) is mroe mentioned in spaniard sources than in actual native ones. That would change of course, but Aztecs adapted quickly to cavalry, mostly just tying the rider, and throwing him from the horse or setting ambushes in high ground.

[@glendurgrantig1391]

​@@pizzapicante27 but afterall they lost ...

[@pizzapicante27]

@@glendurgrantig1391 Not saying otherwise, my point is rather that Cortez wasnt perceived as Iron Man riding on an alien saucer, but rather like this weirdly-dressed, strangely bearded man. And that the conquest was a work of guile and strategy, of Cortez chipping away at the Aztecs through aliances with their enemies (the Fall of Tenochtitlan saw between 100k and 200k battle casualties to give you an idea) much like Caesar's conquest of Gaul, not a bunch of robots firing lasers at cavemen.

[@yamik1385]

They thought the cavalry were demigod centaurs. In battle, they didn't realize that the horse and the mounted man we're two different creatures, they thought it was one massive creature that could not be harmed. It's said that the natives morale in battle took a boost when they first saw a warrior cut off the head of a horse, because prior to this they thought they were invulnerable gods.

[@ik2254]

NATIVES: *drink blood and offer europeans some* EUROPEANS: "Major cringe dude, unsubbed"

[@thepuffin4050]

@PushandillPushback yes, that would be amazing

[@BGdroopy]

Only if they knew the nutritional value of fresh blood. Whatever stinky.......

[@jorgealvarado2471]

But offer them pork blood 🩸 sausage and they would devour it.

[@meroqero1476]

@@BGdroopy Learn some Medicine blood is highly emitic. People puke when they drink Blood

[@maryjane9039]

It's crazy they didn't see that as disrespectful because the europeans didn't pitch in

[@doingtime20]

It feels a bit weird as a mexican when I learn about colonization, we mexicans are the children of these two civilizations. Had this events not happened we would not be here. We eat tortilla to this day but most worship the spanish gods. We are a mix of them, both genetically and culturally, and that mixture has spawned its own culture and traditions.

[@codybarrett4672]

so.....it wasn't all bad, then, eh?

[@tehgankerer]

This is true for almost all cultures, including the spanish culture. A mix of celtic tribes, iberian tribes, carthaginian settlers, greek settlers, conquered by romans, then by goths and visigoths, then by moors. Conquest is the history of mankind.

[@silverletter4551]

As a libertarian, I wonder if such cultures must be denounced as it exists as a byproduct of rights violations.

[@MustardSkaven]

@@silverletter4551 That's true for most cultures and that's a very weird way of looking at "rights".

[@spajas8092]

The man with two heads and one body

[@youtubecensors5419]

Man, imagine being a captive brought to the Spaniards so they can drink your blood but they don't even try it.

[@codybarrett4672]

feels bad man

[@JarPanda]

Rude.

[@MiguelCoBMaggot]

The sacrifice: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@agentsquid9079]

Spaniards: “No, I want Kool-Aid! wtf is this?”

[@revan0890]

Oh what!? I'm not good enough!?

[@meneither3834]

Sounds like an apocalyptic horror movie.

[@Artur_M.]

Yeah, it has this almost Lovecraftian feel.

[@htoodoh5770]

@@Artur_M. Need to make a movies.

[@Trodpint-A]

It pretty much was for the Aztecs I’m sure

[@htoodoh5770]

@Fiamo Scarlette I honestly don't know if the movie depicting Mayan or Aztec.

[@shaiaheyes2c41]

Gibson's Apocalypse is a great movie.

[@ragnar97]

Aztec Wizard: "You're sick. You're sick. You're sick. You're sick" Spaniard: ¿Qué está diciendo el tonto este? *Aztec runs back to Moctezuma* Aztec Wizard: "They are immune to my magic, my king!" Moctezuma: "Give them all they want" lol

[@jorgealvarado2471]

Oh the Aztecs spoke English I didn’t know

[@ragnar97]

@@jorgealvarado2471 Or maybe just maybe, since this is an English channel, even if I could speak the language Aztects spoke, I might've thought it'd be easier to understand in English. Crazy idea I know. When you watch a movie translated to your language do you think they are implying that's the language the people in the movie are actually speaking? ¬¬

[@HarshDude126]

@@jorgealvarado2471 Ever heard of this thing called a "joke"?

[@juansolorio9683]

@@ragnar97 aztecs a real thing its mexica and they spoke nahuathlt

[@ragnar97]

@@juansolorio9683 *Read above*

[@philguer4802]

We need an apocalypse/horror film based on the Aztec perspective.

[@anthonymorris5084]

And then a happy ending with all that freedom, liberty, health care, and stuff.

[@gahelo]

@@anthonymorris5084 what??

[@concretehippogaming]

Apocolypto Its a movie that exists and Its quite good.

[@VampireNewl]

@Aurora O. Apocolypto is actually about the myans but they really bungle the history

[@alyssinclair8598]

war of the worlds was based on imperialism. that is the closest we have

[@darrynmurphy2038]

That awkward moment when a bunch of pale half men/half hoofed men with wool on their faces start making thunder with their sticks

[@htoodoh5770]

@@vincent7875 They didn't believe the Spanish were gods. Especially when they saw the Spanish can bleed.

[@htoodoh5770]

@Fiamo Scarlette I thought the Aztec worshipped the God of War. Forgot his name.

[@malahamavet]

Not half horses, pale men sitting on giant deer 😁

[@RM-TheOctoroon]

@@htoodoh5770 The Azteks have many deities!! Even a "black storm God" Tlaloc!

[@pizzapicante27]

Horses wer emore impressive, cannons and archebuses at the time were too bulky and primitive, most battlefield accounts actually tell us that Aztecs either learned to duck and disperse to avoid a volley and close space to slaughter archebusiers (we are a few decades away form the Tercio yet) or simply captured the bulkier artillery pieces which were not that well designed for the terrain.

[@HVLLOWS1999]

Moteczuma: "Quetzalcoatl? You must be, take my gold?" Hernan Cortes: "aah, sure give me your gold..."

[@hugosophy]

The Aztecs only valued gold for its ceremonial beauty and function. They never could've conceived that it could be uses as currency and the kingdom's that hoarded the shiny metal could convert that gold into weapons of war.

[@HVLLOWS1999]

@@hugosophy The Inca too, they were suprised when they found out that's what the Spanish wanted. Kinda like "oh this stuff sure, take it there's shit loads." Jade was valued by mesoamericans too, I'm not sure to what extent

[@HVLLOWS1999]

@Michel Martinez Nah...

[@hugosophy]

@@HVLLOWS1999 war itself was ceremonial although it involved petty human wants of power they could never imagined that it wouldve mobilized masses of men to take what they wanted by force of arms over 300 yeats

[@HVLLOWS1999]

@@hugosophy fax

[@jaredjones1752]

I find that description of Moctezuma "sighing almost every moment" to be very interesting. It sounds to me like a description of the hyperventilation that often accompanies a severe anxiety attack.

[@darbyohara]

Seems like a reasonable reaction when all your nightmares come true and who appears to be your god actually shows up 😂

[@arthur2305]

*2 hours later* : "...the 234th bad omen..."

[@slipstreamxr3763]

@Ramsey Boushakra Not to mention he teamed up with all the other tribes that the Aztecs had been pissing off for centuries.

[@lollllolll.]

A bird took a shit on my head today, a very bad omen My cat took a piss on my rug, an extremely bad omen I went to an public bathroom but there was no toilet paper, it is believed it was an bad omen

[@thomasaquinas1163]

You're at 234 likes atm, lol

[@Brandon-nr8fn]

Lmfao

[@desiraesanders6914]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DimitrisAndreou]

Cortez probably enjoyed the worshipful welcome... But deep inside he was "lol wtf is this"

[@Leonardo-or1ll]

Dimitri Andreou « Wait till the guys back home get a load of this »

[@noman8412]

That feeling probably stopped when they started the sacrifices.

[@pizzapicante27]

Nah, the whole "spaniards as gods" thingy is a myth, in their first encounter Moctezuma II's guard actually beat him to an inch of his life for attempting to approach Moctezuma II without permission.

[@DimitrisAndreou]

@@pizzapicante27 I became skeptical too, due to the last part of this video, where Moctezuma seems entirely aware that these are enemies to be destroyed, not gods to be worshipped (sending his magicians to poke for weaknesses...). But it would be hard to believe there's absolutely no real basis to this

[@pizzapicante27]

@@DimitrisAndreou We actually dont know what Moctezuma II was thinking so I'll give him that, but the first accounts have his guards actively beating them up for ignoring etiquette and no mention is made about prophecies or such hogwash. Most accounts say that Moctezuma II PROBABLY allowed them to stay because Cortez identified himself as a diplomat to the Spanish king, which is in line with the actions Cuitlahuac will latter take regarding Cortez when he found out he WASNT a diplomat.

[@Kaddywompous]

“We brought them food and, you know, blood of some human sacrifices to drink, as you do.”

[@jokuvaan5175]

"And for some reason the strangers didn't want to eat the food covered with human blood. Maybe tgey thought the blood was rotten or poisonous"

[@wailandkarisma4279]

Imagine being the captive, a walking talking Capri sun.

[@brolickscholar3083]

😂

[@darken2417]

"My lord it was the strangest thing, when we sacrificed the filthy dirty peasant a number of the shining ones began to weep. They reacted as if they had lost a loved one. This gives us great apprehension considering we surely cannot conclude that they felt some sort of (gasp) compassion for the wretch. This does not bode well, lets make sure to fill the chest cavity of the totem in the main temple with as many peasant hearts as possible to be displayed upon their visit. Surely this will be enough."

[@Derlaid]

"Then they looked at us skeptically when we drank the blood and at the body of our God's divine son."

[@PlanetZoidstar]

Montecazuma: *Treat them with the utmost respect, give them whatever they desire.* Also Montecazuma: *Cast whatever spells you can do destroy them.* Also Also Montecazuma: *Find out what they want and give it to them.* Fact: Montecazuma was bipolar.

[@leopoldobonessio64]

Montecazuma was panicking

[@paulchatal]

No just a decent politician 😅

[@supersentaimexicano1967]

montecazuma?? u mean moctezuma right?

[@ReddoFreddo]

Is it that hard for you to imagine that perhaps the gifts Moctezuma sent weren't genuine, and just a strategic attempt to please this powerful army that just invited themselves into your country as much as possible? Maybe just maybe Moctezuma was trying to think of ways to limit damage as much as possible, which would be why he ordered those wizards to test them, and not outright declare war on them?

[@nobodybroda3826]

@@ReddoFreddo Eh army is kinda an overstatement, the Spaniards had a token force, even with good armor they would of been wiped out without aid of native allies against the Aztec.

[@CaptainJacksIsland]

This is like a movie, but everyone's a villain.

[@CampaignerSC]

Yeah. Cortez was a monster, but the Aztec culture was monstrous itself.

[@FE2E00]

welcome to real life

[@fandomguy8025]

A movie with deep and complex characters rather than simple good/evil binary.

[@joshuakuehn]

Just like real life then

[@PiousMoltar]

Aw you guys aren't villains But yeah most people

[@thegreenmage6956]

“So anyway, I started sacrificin’”.

[@PersonManManManMan]

So when I was stressed I did what was natural to me

[@Yrkr785]

“Sacrifices a million people” yea this will make the gods happy 😌

[@jamtam21jamtam8]

Lol

[@tabryis]

Christians: "so anyway, i started sending my hopes and prayers"

[@IntroducingMrLucci]

Sometimes it be like that tho y'all don't even understand Melenated people's buissness we did this for pure reasons these people's wanted it they was trying to help em from that Facts 💯

[@odiwalker3973]

I kinda like the way these aztec think: "Our gods have come, prepare the wizards so that we may banish then back into the outer planes!"

[@heretyk_1337]

@qweq weqweq My first thought exactly :) It would be scary, if Montezuma went: - Oh, shit Nyarlathotep came... I`d be: - Waitwaitwaitwaitwait... WHO CAME?!- them turn toward Lovecraft.- DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING WE DON`T?!

[@theillyri8339]

The today's priests would do the same, or the Vatican, because of all the lies they have propagated, They'd be like, oh heck here goes my whole carer. they'd kill Jesus if he were to return XD . After all religion is practically earthly control and it only works with the gods being invisible and out of touch. If there were god/s there would be no need for religion as fundamentally religion promotes belief in god. Belief in god wouldn't be in question if god existed .

[@heretyk_1337]

@@theillyri8339 I could argue against your arguments, it in the sense- that maybe we see God`s work every day, but we are just too stupid, or too limited to understand. After all try to explain our existence to an ant, using all your intellect, see what that does for you... Or possibly He/She/It doesn`t want to? Who am i to guess? Anyway, just because we didn`t get an old fart in white robes doing fish tricks, doesn`t mean something akin to the concept of Creator deson`t exist. I am not arrogant enough to tell you to go in one direction, or the other... But that is beside the point. Because i agree at the bit with organized religion. I was 7, had faith, and still i knew that Jesus would be pissed off, should he come back and see, what happened to his sect of Essenes... He wanted priests to be servants, not kings. That is not restricted only to Christians, though they are punching bag of media, because partialy of history, partialy of some misguided attempt of being different at all cost - including shitting in one`s own nest, and partially because nobody will blow up anybody, or drive the truck into the crowd, and at the same time: "wow, what a bunch of rebels. They go against the STRUCTURE!"... Well, nobody is burning witches, or gay people... oh, wait... Not, where christians are. So why is media holding us accountable for what our ancestor may, or may not have done 1000 years ago, yet people are doing nasty shit today, and everyone just pretends it never happened? Questions for later >:) Anyway, prophets accross the world, who advocated peace and only defending oneself, if needs be, are probably spinning in their graves, when they see their religion politicized. Priests contradict, what they preach, i am ashamed of my species, that it is stupid enough to let itself being led by the nose like that...

[@helpfulcomrade]

@Wretch Gunk I'm betting those fires in the sky were flares fired off from the Spanish ships.

[@TheS1ickness]

John Newman aztecs actually do believe in some humanoid gods or gods with human forms but yeah the mostly well know and major ones aren’t even humanoid also they got vibe checked really hard when the time they predicted their god to show up Cortes did and even worse he at least roughly matched the description of a god so they got vibe checked very hard.

[@eaglehero4528]

This channel is basically “things I never knew I wanted to know”

[@amazinggrace5692]

Word

[@dannyfrantsevich727]

Aztec wizard: Casts Illness spell Spanish: Reverse uno card

[@mjr_schneider]

I like how the description of the food was the scariest part to Moctezuma.

[@tiny2315]

Probably because it was weird how these “gods” ate the same stuff humans do, and not bloody sacrifices

[@Lukas-xb7cx]

@@tiny2315 true they where sacrificing humans to please the gods for centuries and then they hear they don't even like it. Suddenly they had no possibility to please the gods and tame their anger anymore.

[@darken2417]

@@tiny2315 I think he was most afraid when he heard they weeped for the filthy dirty peasant. "Surely they couldn't be feeling compassion for the wretch? That would be absurd. Hurry! We must prepare heart filled totems for their arrival, its worse than I thought!"

[@mjr_schneider]

@Toxic Male Yeah that would probably mess me up.

[@helpfulcomrade]

@Toxic Male I'd think "Oh, thank God, he's still a bro." and then proceed to introduce him to superior burger joints to secure my place in Heaven.

[@edwinrodriguez5823]

Can you imagine going back and being able to see all of this in person? It's literally my number one fantasy

[@andreascovano7742]

Imagine not knowing about the americas as a feudal spaniard from a poor province. The whole place must have been fantasy.

[@AndrzejSapkowski12]

After death, I’ve asked the universe to be able to time travel whilst being in minecraft creative mode 😆😂

[@highjinx6519]

Edwin Rodriguez the closest I have ever come is reading Aztec by Gary Jennings. It’s historical fiction but did a very good job of describing what probably happened. It’s a long book but once I got through the first part I couldn’t put it down. Still one of my favorite books til this day and I highly recommend it.

[@Norg1]

Can u imagine if all the Aztecs were actually of the sayian race the Spanish would of got merked and there ships blown to pieces

[@edwinrodriguez5823]

@@Norg1 see this is the type of stuff I love to imagine. Imagine if the Aztecs had at least one saiyan on their side. Lol

[@laserdiscisawesome1263]

I remember my Texas history teacher telling me that the Aztecs and the Comanche first thought that the horses the Spaniards rode on were part of their body

[@joshuafischer684]

The myths of centaurs came from the first times people saw men on horseback.

[@GeoffreyBronson]

*Messengers kiss the ground under Cortez and dress him up in homage of their God* "...is this how you greet people? Arrest them."

[@ToastyMozart]

"1v1 me bro!" "... we're just the welcoming committee." "Don't be a pussy!"

[@Lemon_squee]

Right? What an asshole lol

[@lukeblaze7571]

Ramsey Boushakra all conquest are done by dicks all killing and taking over stuff all people did it . The Aztecs were no saints either

[@jorgec.a3123]

Cortés*

[@anakinvader9120]

Ikr what a douche lmao

[@fenrirrising131]

That part about the magicians attempting to waylay the Spaniards with charms and "spells" and how useless it all was reminded me of the psychic fight in south park lol

[@James-ip8xs]

"wololololo"

[@fenrirrising131]

@@James-ip8xs wtf i love red team now

[@Greksallad]

SAME! Hahaha that's all I could think of lmaaaooo

[@cabbagegreens853]

The Christian God has come

[@whathell6t]

FENRIR RISING Frankly! They weren’t calling forth Tezcatlipoca, the Jaguar God of Magic, Fire, Darkness, Mirrors, and Mischief. Plus, he one of the two heroes that saved the universe from Cipactli, the Planet Eater.

[@pikeshotBattles]

Japanese reaction: Nothing to see here and don't tell me about squinting. Now give me that gun! Aztec reaction: Oh my God! Oh my God! Oh my god!

[@thekid2389]

pike&shotBattles we should have been like the Japanese but we didn’t have a society as structured as them at the time. Before we did that’s how those fantastic cities were built but a lineage of incompetent leaders led to years of strife which the Spanish exploited to hell and back. Anyways we all good now.

[@ShahjahanMasood]

@@thekid2389 are you of Mesoamerican descent?

[@pikeshotBattles]

@T Doran They were proactive. That's the big difference.

[@boshirahmed]

@T Doran it was necessary for survival.. Adaptation is normal, some adapt sooner than others.. Aztecs made a mistake.. They learnt too late.. Even then they had no chance against disease and gunpowder..

[@poonhound9377]

T Doran did you see the previous video about the first Japanese contact with Europeans? OP was very accurate

[@cardenasr.2898]

I know the Aztec version of this war is dramatic and tragic, but I'd like to hear what the Native allies of Cortés had to say, they were in the winning team, in fact without them the Spanish must certainly wouldn't have won. What did they believe would happen? The world as they knew it was ending, but for them it didn't seem such a bad thing, as they were exploited by the Aztecs

[@bvillafuerte765]

The versions of the vanquished are always tragic and dramatic.

[@mcfail3450]

Yep. We need to do a much better job in native history education. Most people would be surprised to know the US Calvary had Native troops and scouts. Usually members of tribes/nations who were enemies of the tribes/nations the calvary was fighting. For example Pawnee and Crow scouted for the US against the Lakota and Cheyenne because of their historical rivalry and the events of Massacre Canyon where a Pawnee party of mostly women and children was ambushed and slaughtered by the Souix.

[@theamericandream5917]

@@mcfail3450 The reason why the Spanish easily won was because the Aztecs were hated all across South America. Aztecs were killing all the other native tribes. So when the Spanish came it was like a godsend to them sent to destroy the Aztecs.

[@mikeolithory898]

South America? You mean North America.

[@jonstewart6860]

I do know that the Aztecs told the Tlaxcalans if the Spaniards won, Tlaxcala would rebuild their city, and if they lost, they'd still be the ones rebuilding. Cortes had this to say: ''They were right''. There is a letter from a Tlaxcalan lord to the king begging for Spaniards to keep their end of the deal, I guess things didnt work out for Tlaxcala, either.

[@gyarurespecter3386]

The Aztec Empire hearing the gregorian chant in the distant ocean: *Why do I hear boss music?*

[@daddyleon]

idk if this was your attempt/the desired effect. But I'm pretty sure that the background-music you chose, the way you told it (or perhaps just the text itself) gave me that uneasy feeling, the entire time. A pit in my stomach. You know, that sort of 'fear' that's not premature but useless: too far in the future to do anything and too big/too inevitable as welll.

[@VoicesofthePast]

Yes! That was very much the intended effect. Thanks for the compliment

[@daddyleon]

@@VoicesofthePast you're welcome, the uneasy feeling has passed now, but the compliment still stands ;) I love your channel

[@daddyleon]

@Carson Colorgrave yes, existential/cosmic dread, after all, that's what they are experiencing. (not that it was actually the case, but the nature of their culture/religion made it coloured that way.)

[@daddyleon]

@Carson Colorgrave yes, I know, my 'doubt' was for the cosmic dread. Because, y'know, Spaniards aren't actually gods nor their representatives despite being perceeved as such

[@rheinhartsilvento2576]

@@daddyleon They didn't have to be gods to bring about the absolute end of Aztec civilisation. It was the End od Days for the Aztecs, the end of the world as they knew it. If that doesn't cause existential dread, then what does?

[@mordoendergon1588]

7:11 “Jackets of a soiled color, V E R Y U G L Y.”

[@PiousMoltar]

@Edward Crosley Oh shit I never realised until now.

[@PiousMoltar]

Fun fact, my friend's dad worked at the factory where they were developing blue M&Ms, he gave me a bag full of them before they were released, only the blue ones, and without the M printed on or the glossy outer layer, so the blue was powdery and came off on your hands a bit.

[@vmm5163]

Yes, their description of excrement!

[@highonlife2323]

@@PiousMoltar never thought id see this string of words lumped into one large runoff sentence

[@michaeltribbet9213]

This roast was good but nothing beats the Portuguese discovering India and spending like 3 minutes describing the men’s styles of hair, clothes and jewelry and then ends it with “the women, by rule, are ugly” 😂

[@Underpantsniper]

1st omen: Large Meteor strike at night 2nd omen: House fire 3rd omen: Lightning strike 4th omen: Meteor shower during the day 5th omen: Hurricane 6th omen: A crazy broad with a drug addiction 7th omen: Found a weird looking bird 8th omen: Conjoined twins that survived to adulthood 9th omen: Europeans in big ass boats!!

[@calska140]

What drug would addle this woman?

[@highonlife2323]

​@@calska140 didn't they do dmt or some shit?

[@SmartK8]

@@highonlife2323 She probably overdid the mushrooms. It was their drug of choice. Party like it's early 1500s.

[@hjhjkhfkfkd]

Wow thank you 21st century science man!!

[@davidschaftenaar6530]

@@calska140 Psychosis brought on as a feature of schizophrenia or brought on by brain injury. There is also something called stimulant psychosis, but that's usually a consequence of synthetic stimulant abuse. They might have had access to a natural stimulant in the form of coca leaves, which can be chewed for an effect resembling that of the cocaine that's extracted from them today. But I highly doubt it.

[@TheAlienGangster]

It makes me shudder imagining how scary it must‘ve been encountering something completely unexpected in those times. Nowadays, we have such diverse forms of fiction and so much experience as a species that it’s much harder to surprise compared to back then.

[@hensonlaura]

Very good point.

[@kyriss12]

Eh, we’d still probably shit our collective britches if aliens ever made first contact.

[@McHrozni]

The Aztec description of the Spainards is even more frightening than one of the greatest war machines of the era.

[@malahamavet]

@JoJo is not an anime not really. Most South Americans and Mexicans are descendents of their respective prehispanic civilizations. Some mixed with Europeans, some are 100% indigenous, but they're not dead.

[@soyhugo390]

@JoJo is not an anime the genocidal ones where the English not the Spaniards

[@McHrozni]

@JoJo is not an anime mostly by carrying communicible diseases the natives had no immunity to though.

[@Altrantis]

@@McHrozni Yeah, but you can't blame them for that.

[@monehget]

@JoJo is not an anime 😆 y'all always trying to rewrite history.

[@saidtoshimaru1832]

1:55 - First recorded appearence of "La Llorona" in México.

[@thekid2389]

Said Toshimaru I know! When I first heard that I was like 👀‼️

[@Shiro-ii6nw]

Oh shit damn

[@nerthus4685]

They are as old as humanity.

[@user-vp9lc9up6v]

I was relaxed then I heard that shit wtf

[@imthecoolestguy]

holy moley!

[@SonofMars77]

Joe Rogan “I wonder how much DMT Montecezuma took”

[@jesseblack2285]

Pull that up Jaime

[@jamoneil]

They should have taken onnit to beat the sapaniards haha. Aztecs most likely took a lot of mezcaline and shrooms, probably sage too.

[@SonofMars77]

jamoneil Yea, they were trippin hard. Without knowledge, you wouldn’t be able to distinguish between what is real or a hallucination.

[@Mode-Selektor]

@@SonofMars77 "... their eyes flash fire and shoot out sparks..." yeah that sounds like they were trippin balls to me.

[@realitatsfluchtsnc6452]

@kerimcan ak this sentence is about the dogs XDDD

[@TerryBradstreet]

The omen of the men with two heads, or of two men merged together in one body, and how it was interpreted to mean that the Aztecs would be wiped out and replaced with a new people... It foretold of the modern Central Americans, who are hybrid descendants of the original natives and the foreign Spaniards. That prophecy came true!

[@aliwahab1255]

Huh when you put it like that it makes alot of sense

[@mousermind]

Drinking game: Take a swig each time Montezuma feels fear, or terror, or feels that his heart shrinks or shrivels or whatnot. It feels like 90% of the narrative. xD

[@Arcgateway]

Alarec Scarbrow maybe it was written by the Spaniards

[@martinn.6082]

@@Arcgateway Montezuma was probably an arrogant king who responded badly to the arrival of Cortez, so in hindsight, the nobles wrote history as if he was actually very concerned.

[@Claxiux]

yeah, I was also shocked. Didn't know their leader was such a coward, no wonder they lost it all.

[@krisrakow6663]

The style of this writing is so very medieval christian. Hard to take it serious.

[@fenrirrising131]

Poor bastard must have been shitting steam halfway through. *And thus his revenge was born*

[@royriley6282]

>go into Spanish restaurant >"I hear you serve human food."

[@OpnDoarPlcy]

Go into an Aztec restaurant ~No, we serve humans as food :D

[@andmicbro1]

And now, human music.

[@ineffablemars]

@@andmicbro1 I like it!

[@rld8258]

@@andmicbro1 snake jazz

[@juansolorio9683]

Im pretty sure there is things you cant translate from one language to the other

[@AsprosOfAzeroth]

Aztec: *We rip hearts out of people, no one can challenge us!* Hernán Cortés : *Estoy a punto de terminar toda su carrera.*

[@borispsalman]

sujeta mi cerveza

[@patito3698]

The other tribes that helped him finish them off: *prepare for trouble and make that double*

[@NewNicator]

"To the natives, these marvels all go to their death and ruin, signifying that the end of the world was coming and that other peoples would be created to inhabit the earth" I wonder if this foreshadowed the collapse of the Aztec Empire and the cultures around Central America (which at the time they only knew as the known world) from new European arrivals (particularly the Spanish Empire), and the 'other peoples' being created to inhabit that known world would be the descendants of modern day Mestizo peoples when Spanish immigrants intermixed with the native American populations in central and south America (creating a new branch of people).

[@xesphor1436]

it likely did, I found that bit the most fascinating.

[@rjfaber1991]

It's not so much "foreshadowed", as this text was written after the conquest, so while it clearly tries to accurately portray what the Nahuatl thought and did when they encountered Cortes' party, its writer lived in a Mexico already conquered and culturally influenced by Europeans.

[@Moonhack95]

According to Aztec mythology, the world had already ended four times before and each time humanity was destroyed for a new people to inhabit the earth. They predicted their time was long due, and the only way to extend their era was to make continuous human sacrifice, to repay the debt of blood to the current gods and appease them. So the idea was already there for them.

[@rrs_13]

"Some with blue jackets, others with red, others with black or green, and still others with jackets of a soiled colour, very ugly. There were also few without jackets. On their heads they wore red hankerchiefs, or bonets of a fine scarlet colour. Some wore large round hats, which must've been sunshades. They have very light skin, much lighter than ours. They all have long beards, and their hair comes only to their ears. Monteczuma was downcast when he heard this report, and did not speak a word. Monteczuma then finally exclamated: -F*cking hipsters" Sorry, couldn't resist xD

[@tiny2315]

LMAO

[@Henry-jl1xt]

hahahahaha, well done

[@Rascal77s]

👍😂😂😂😂

[@rrs_13]

woha, this comment took proportions I did not forsee :O

[@skylerarroniz4204]

Best comments so far 😂😂😂

[@Jim-Mc]

Mesoamerican civilizations, their history, their relationship with prehistoric ones, all very mysterious. Also this is a pretty eerie narrative, reminds me of Apocalypto.

[@alvarodiaz2221]

@@johnnywrither128 "It should be said upfront, that the 'Inca' culture in Peru was began by the Atlanteans." Lol, what the hell is this?

[@LegionHimself]

Yes, Apocalypto turns into a very different film at the end, doesn’t it?

[@lashlarue7924]

That movie was amazingly superb. Highly memorable, just great. I don't care if Mel Gibson's crazy, his movies are freaking amazing.

[@pizzapicante27]

With good reason, its not the actual account, it comes from several centuries latter.

[@GreatSageSunWukong]

That film is about as historically accurate as 10,000BC. Its absolute garbage mixing up several cultures and at least 600 years, I mean for one thing it even shows people with smallpox before the Spanish even landed, Gibson is very good at making BS look historic but its still BS.

[@maximeblondeau7991]

The spanish reaction is juste the pure definition of "going with the flow"

[@dudett4]

“No pasa nadaaa”

[@TheDNAGroup]

lol yooo, sincerely, Like we're enjoying these delicous ass guavas as the tear are still drying from when you murdered a couple people-- happily...Fuck it, what's next?

[@damuarth5361]

When you see your enemy as a god, the war is lost before it begins.

[@EnchantyBat]

They actually weren’t seen as gods

[@GrugSmesh]

Aztecs "Why do I hear boss music?"

[@HVLLOWS1999]

🇪🇸

[@James-ip8xs]

This comment.

[@hitoshura2800]

You mean a bunch of sick pale dudes who believed showers were bad for your health? Do you guys know how many people died from Spanish disease? After that, conquering the rest was easy, not very glorious or boss like, kinda just dumb luck.

[@James-ip8xs]

@@hitoshura2800 the diseases would've spred regardless how much the Spanish would've washed, your point is null

[@GrugSmesh]

@@hitoshura2800 This guy unironically thinks people in the past didn't practice hygiene and always had shit smeared on their faces.

[@dracodistortion9447]

When light men on floating houses wearing metal come from the East The Aztecs: 😐 The Inca: 😐 The Maya: 😎

[@dracodistortion9447]

@👁️ thank you so much. I never knew the difference between "maya" and "mayan" but I've always wanted to know, so thank you

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

When suddenly all of you start getting horrible painful sores and dying: 😟

[@alexandrub8786]

East* It would be west if they came from Philiphine.

[@dracodistortion9447]

@@alexandrub8786 I commented that a few minutes after I woke up, I'm so sorry lmao

[@andreascovano7742]

Explain

[@program4215]

"They refused to eat the food that had been sprinkled with blood"

[@glassycreek1991]

How rude

[@joops110]

I'm so glad I found this channel. Pure GOLD!

[@nicksalvatore5717]

Imagine a people who had a control over a race of muscle bound, gigantic dog deer. Along with gigantic smooth haired spotted dogs with limitless energy. Alien weapons that could explode trees and put dents in the mountains. Their armor and weapons, comprised of Iron. Only known to fall out of the sky. Every single sign pointed to them being gods. I feel so bad for the Aztecs, they never even had the chance.

[@GodActio]

Not only that, weeks of mysterious events happened beforehand, boosting it even more.

[@nicksalvatore5717]

Joseph Stracener If it weren’t for disease I believe the natives could have put up a much better fight with guerilla warfare. Although it would probably spur more European effort to fight natives. It took centuries for the colonists and early US to fully conquer/assimilate the natives, due to built up immunities and strategies natives learned over years of fighting, despite a huge technological disadvantage.

[@nerthus4685]

Also, by "gods" it could mean like elves or faeries, not full level universal gods.

[@peterc3262]

@@nerthus4685 No, they really did think they were universal God's at the start. Quetzacoatl.

[@ikballalli5539]

@@peterc3262 not really, that's a myth

[@transvestosaurus878]

_“An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilisations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop.”_ - Iain M Banks, 'Excession'

[@rodolfogonzalez724]

This Is the best narration and BSO for a horror science fiction movie. You nailed it. That's exactly how it should had felt to live those events from mexica perspective. Excellent.

[@bestpossibleworld2091]

This is, perhaps, the single most amazing narration I have ever listened to. 5 Stars Plus!!!!

[@Frost87112]

as a Mexican i really appreciate the extra effort you put into spelling these names right, also thank you for such a marvelous work capturing the ambience of the whole thing.

[@TheDNAGroup]

Thanks for sharing this 1st-hand account Voices of the Past; it provides a brand new consideration to the picture painted-- awesome!

[@SteelChains]

I love how they accurately describe something. Factual and vivid. Then they just throw in something extreme to make it a bit more interesting. ''Their eyes is a burning yellow, their eyes flash fire and shoot off sparks!''

[@AndersonNSilva-mw7kl]

17:03 "Their food is like human food" * sad spaniard noises *

[@VojislavMoranic]

I had a Portugese make me some dish from Porto with prawns and bacon and rice. It was disgusting but i ate it because the man really put his heart into it. Im a Serb so putting seafood in normal food is disgusting. Its not Spanish but since they are neighbours they do eat almost the same stuff. So i kinda understand the Aztects on this one.

[@goodaimshield1115]

@@VojislavMoranic "They eat almost the same stuff" lol XD Prawn, bacon, and rice, never heard of anything like it, and it is certainly nothing similar to Spanish food.

[@martinn.6082]

@@VojislavMoranic I'm from germany and Spanish food is one of the best in the world in my opinion. I look forward to eating there every time I travel. The bocatas, ham, olive oil, tapas, pintxos, paella - bloody delicious. Never had Serbian food, so maybe that's even better? I don't know, haha

[@miguelsilva1446]

@@VojislavMoranic neither do we for the most part thats probably someones weird invention or trying things out When your in Portugal the stuff to eat in restaurants is Cod, Cod, Cod, Seafoods when your in Algarve, in Lisboa i dunno but in the northern region you cant go wrong with francesinha, and in some regions sarrabulho(Pig blood rice, yeah i know but its a lot better than its sound plus its usualy acompanyed by some a lot of the best stuff you can eat like onion sausages, the best kind of sausage there is not sure if its something well known outside of Portugal though)also praws tend to be pretty good too. As for traditional home dishes id say salted cod with potatos and cabbages you cut garlic into fine litle pieces, and put it on the olive oil then you pour some over your food Theres also one where youd cook the potatos and cabbages with pig meat and sausages wich you shouldnt put olive oil on or put litle Aside from that we eat pretty much everything here that can be acompanied with rice, potatos, pasta... Also bread is pretty good here and pastryes most of the type so i can say If theres one thing is good in Portugal is the food, ill cut this short since id never be done if i listed all the good food here, of course not all of us are good cooks but youd be doing yourself a disservice if you dint give our food a chance cause of one bad experience XD

[@VojislavMoranic]

@@martinn.6082 Serbian food is only if you really love meat and especially Pig meat. And cheese and of course cabbages aaand bread. If you suffer from low cholesterol just call the nearest Grandma and we will get that fixed asap!

[@Janon48]

This is awesome. I really started to feel a sense of dread hearing about all the bad omens. I’m Mexican so I also found the part about a new people being created to take over their land interesting since the pure indigenous people became a minority and the mestizos with mixed Spanish and Indigenous blood became the majority. So in a way they were right

[@kingofracism]

@Meat for all it's not the same though, they're not coming to europe to rule. Our own traitorous capitalist government bring these people here. It can and will be reversed, mark my words

[@marneus]

Would have you prefered the British approach of exterminating all the natives?

[@jorgealvarado2471]

My ancestors killing my ancestors and viceversa.

[@juansolorio9683]

Actually no just because alot of people have lost yhere culture it does not mean every body and they mamam mixed in mexico mexican indigounes people are less miced then natives in the us we didnt have endless eurapean waves of migration and the ones that did mostly stayed seperarated from others so they are mostly eurapean like in monterey chihuahua ect

[@jaif7327]

@Michelle lucky for them

[@garywasseljr]

“I was only 9 years old...I loved shrek so much”

[@boondockflock]

Just discovered this channel and now I have a new binge project. Thanks

[@berserker_bo]

Wow and almost 2 decades later I'm just now realizing that the Aztec campaign intro script in AoE2 comes from straight from these texts! Amazing video as always thanks!

[@alvianekka80]

You made me want to play it again. AoE2 is a certified hood classic.

[@juliac9080]

You may be interested in reading the Popol Vuh. It's a book, the best account we have, of their mythology scribed by the Spanish.

[@chanwis_ppino]

@@juliac9080 mayan mythology*

[@hensonlaura]

It's hard to beat reality for a good storyline.

[@Artur_M.]

13:40 "Good cheer!" Such a fun fellow.

[@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155]

@@LegionHimself What kind of comparison is that supposed to be?

[@johndough5582]

@@LegionHimself you're not very bright. So challenging another warrior to a fair combat in the context of the 1500s is somehow worse than sacrificing defenseless people including women and children to their gods by the tone of tens of thousands every year??? Also, your tiny brain probably doesn't get that Cortés was trying to scare the aztecs. He knew he was vastly outnumbered and in completely unknown lands, so he was using a bit of psychological warfare. Duh

[@LegionHimself]

@@johndough5582 Oh hey, everyone is a big guy commenting on this channel apparently. Never though the Spanish were worse than the Aztecs myself, and actually thank the Lord the Spanish got there before the Aztecs got here. Did you adjust your fedora before commenting? "I, an intellectual, will now show my intellect! I will pick a fight on the Internet, boasting outrage for the defenceless women and children. M'lady!"

[@problemat1que]

@@johndough5582 They weren't challenging them to a fair fight (leather shields, really?), they knew they would beat them easily with steel armor, guns, and and steel swords (the Aztecs still used iron). They were just gauging their prowess to estimate how quickly they could crush them.

[@emotionalcontentmediaunltd2267]

I am so grateful for this account! They are speaking of volcanoes and the effects of that on their civilization. And how it was taken as sign.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

"Apocalypto" described all this in such a savage yet minimal way, which really brought you to the native's mindset in a split of a second.

[@camiloasturrizaga3101]

This one definitely needs a Part 2

[@Rinmeh]

part two: everyone was killed by the spaniards. the end.

[@MariaMartinez-researcher]

@@Rinmeh Not everyone. Have you noticed that the Mexicans are brown? That they don't eat Spanish food? That they celebrate festive days unique to their culture? As barbaric as the Spanish behaved towards the natives, they weren't in a genocidal mission. They weren't particularly racist; being a Christian mattered more. Read the history of those times; it was awful, and also the birth of a new world and a rich mixed culture: Latin America.

[@maligjokica]

actualy there is one:)))this a podcast about fallen civilisationa. the part about the Actecs is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2e6gYCIerearsk its about 4 housr long!! you will thank me later;))

[@jonnysith]

Part 2: Smallpox

[@klutzendorf]

18:39 Moctezuma: “It’s a family recipe” Cortés: “This is fucked up, you’re a sick man Moctezuma!”

[@domagojvrsaljko6161]

it's marissimo eeehhhh, it's a family recipyyy

[@CampaignerSC]

You know the Aztecs were fucked up when even the likes of Cortez was put off by it.

[@spicecrop]

I don't know how this channel escaped me for so long. But I'm glad I found it finally. Great content, with a poetic and artful style that sets itself apart from some of the other great history content creaters on youtube.

[@JoyofSatanTestimonial-nm4hu]

It's bullcrap history. The Aztecs did not refer to the Spanish as 'Gods' and this is even a debated topic among historians to this day... and most historians ((as far as I'm concerned)) would agree that there's no actual historical evidence ((or at least none that is concrete)) that would back the idea up- the idea that they saw the Spaniards as "God-like beings", or much less the return of Quetzalcoatl. Quetzalcoatl wasn't depicted as a white man in their artwork, but as a SERPENT... and sometimes a serpent-like man with a beard, but still wasn't depicted as a white man/ or European ((at least not in a way to where you can even tell))... and the Florentine Codex was written up by the Spanish as a means to make themselves look good, or better than they actually were. This is all just hearsay that comes directly from the Spanish... lies. A means to demoralize. Assimilate non-whites into a false type of hierarchy where Europeans are on top, or at least close to being on top which is right below their JEWISH/ and alien masters.

[@JoyofSatanTestimonial-nm4hu]

@VoicesofthePast You're a racist... lol. You promote this history as if it's factual...? You should be ashamed of yourself, but then again... I expect nothing less from light-skinned Europeans. You guys are known for this rat-like behavior. Always have been...

[@KnialPiper]

Can you imagine seeing these aztecs killing each other in front of you as sacrifice

[@vatolocosforever803]

People are still sacrificed but their sacrifice before they're even born. They are called abortions

[@CampaignerSC]

@@vatolocosforever803 Yeah man you gotta save those brainless tadpoles that can't feel any pain and can't even think any thoughts. Gotta let them live long enough to be born and be able to feel sensations, feel despair, and realize that life is meaningless before you let them die a painful death. Nice job watching out.

[@vatolocosforever803]

@@CampaignerSC how do you know they don't feel nothing Where you aborted

[@vatolocosforever803]

@@CampaignerSC are they not doing it too have a better life

[@skeletonwar4445]

@@vatolocosforever803 Even *if* they can feel pain, that's still not a sacrifice...

[@exudeku]

Aztecs: (sacrifices a European for their pagan gods) Europeans: *DooM music starts*

[@carlosmarcial6201]

Spaniards using Harquebus: "boom". :D.

[@josephmcbloggs8447]

We avenged our brother seven fold with our giant war lamas baba

[@NapoleonBonaparde]

Cortez: *RiP aNd TeAr UnTiL it IS dOnE*

[@1988thefreeman]

They are rage brutal and without mercy, but you, you we will be worse. Rip and tear until it is done!

[@nubep9049]

Finally, I was waiting for this. Thank you!

[@willkirkoff1333]

I'm baffled as to why your channel doesn't have millions of subscribers. Keep up the amazing work man, this channel is incredible!!!

[@VoicesofthePast]

Thanks! What a nice comment

[@bryanjames5256]

I've only watched a few videos on this channel, but wow. Bravo. Amazing content. Been enjoying it with my coffee in the morning 🌄

[@kynoble]

The start of an AOE 2 campaign

[@Tarik360]

Passed down to you by Quaotemoch...

[@jogoapp4752]

@@Tarik360 Jaguar warrior of Tenochtitlan.

[@ViktoriousDead]

Bernardo you know it's time to get the villagers in the town center ASAP

[@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459]

It really does read like first contact with a vastly alien civilization. The Aztecs though advanced technology did not have firearms or ships or the technology the Spanish possessed. Now imagine us encountering a race of aliens who can traverse the stars within months to a few years.

[@tepasaliro8588]

@wait wot Japanese already encounter Mongol before and they use firework & explosive cannon at that time. Also, Japanese isn't so secluded.

[@traeucity6087]

The Nahuas did not have advanced technology.

[@pelinalwhitestrake3367]

The Mesoamericans had better irrigation systems, I think.

[@JoyofSatanTestimonial-nm4hu]

That's a very big stretch... yeah, the Spanish had better weapons, but to compare some old musket to a bow and arrow, with that of alien technology that is capable of traversing light years across the stars in a short period of time is ridiculous. The Europeans were not **nearly** that advanced to where you can even make such a comparison. It's nothing more than a sneaky low-blow against the indigenous people of what we know as modern day Mexico.

[@JoyofSatanTestimonial-nm4hu]

Who's to say that aliens don't control all human societies, and always have since the dawn of modern man...? Who's to say that aliens haven't actually played a role in our evolution? Who's to say that we don't actually live in some sort of matrix...? I.E. the allegory of "The Cave" that the Greek Philosopher Plato came up with...? Maybe humanity ((and especially that of the non-white 'primitive' races)) were never given a fair chance in actually having societies/ or "civilizations" ((actual civilizations)) of their own...? Maybe all civilizations ((even up to this modern day)) are just imitation forms of human civilizations, but don't actually come close to being real civilizations...? Humanity in itself is such a backwards species to where the majority of the human population would worship literal contradictions/ the story of original sin ((the Judaic God)). The majority of people on the planet are crazy enough to worship these type of religious contradictions... But yet we're the same species that are said to be "smart enough" to have developed the internet, tanks, drones, computers... and other advanced forms of technology....? It makes no real sense, unless of course you can acknowledge the possibility that we live in some sort of controlled environment... one that isn't directly controlled by man. A matrix/ or "Cave" of some sort...? A real life Truman Show, or something similar to the likes...? The ancient astronaut theory is very plausible.

[@appleicatpromax7069]

One of my absolute favorite videos on the entire Internet. This was a beautifully emotional and descriptive telling of the early days of European colonization. The way you start it out with the prophecy is superb. If I'm being honest, this made me really want a historically adapted TV series out of this. Thee excellent writing in this video shows that it could definitely work.

[@versmex87]

Awesome! I hope HT's next long video is about this :) Great channel

[@cormacchesbrough3380]

This is your best one yet. Gripping. You manage to capture the fear and forboding very well. Keep doing these! Thank you

[@firstnlastnamethe3rd771]

Mexico is such an interesting & beautiful country. The food & drink. The art, music & people. The history, and the land. I wanna go there again, but there's a lot in the way, nowadays.

[@TheBranchez]

What an amazing video and channel! Unbelievable. Subbed. Keep up the awesome work.

[@caityreads8070]

this is probably the most interesting video this channel has done so far

[@eddielloyd1947]

When Moctezuma stopped treating Cortés as a god, he started treating him as his liege lord, and essentially wanted the support of the Spaniards against his rebel vassals that were trying to overthrow him. In Cortés' account of their meeting, Moctezuma swears fealty, justifying it in part by claiming the Aztec aristocracy descended from Europeans that had previously arrived in America ages ago, who had been the vassals of some King in Europe.

[@PeteofHartainia]

@ReaIly Most likey, he's just saying things to make these dangerous people go away.

[@DeadlycheesePeople]

It’s possible that the Aztecs are decended from the phonecians or some other bronze age civilization. There’s evidence of things like cocaine and nocotine in ancient mummies from that era, so it’s not impossible to imagine that transatlantic travel was possible.

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

Yeah, people always forget the Aztec Empire was kind of on its last legs, torn apart by internal conflict when Cortés arrived.

[@Mankindatwar]

@ReaIly Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Egyptians /// Atlanteans. could be anyone. Vikings less likely

[@pizzapicante27]

Nope, the first account we have of their meeting, Cortez actually got the living shit beaten out of him for coming close to Moctezuma II without the proper etiquete by his guards. The entire "spaniards as gods" thingy doesnt make sense in the cultural context of Mesoamerica (heck in the context of any American civilization), and we dont actually have a contemporary source mentioning this, most mentions of this myth actually start appearing at the end of the 17th century.

[@robertsides3626]

Everyone gangsta, till the flaming ear of corn zips through the sky.

[@1StepForwardToday]

Your channel is incredibly captivating. History told through the lense & lips of first hand experience, coupled with sensational narration really brings me deep into the environment of these stories. History is brought to life. Thank you. Simply amazing

[@Ivan.A.Trulyuski]

I’m a white American and my mom and dad decided to give me the first name Montezuma.. I go by Monty.

[@stephanieadlersfeld8713]

You poor child. That can't be totally easy...

[@Oakeshott-ko8ig]

The supreme commander of the Allied forces of WWII was named Monty.

[@rayreyes1878]

That's kinda nutty.

[@Ivan.A.Trulyuski]

@@rayreyes1878 What can I say my grandparents named my mom Karen.

[@rayreyes1878]

@@Ivan.A.Trulyuski being named Karen has went unjustly south that it's Kool to be a Karen. Some badassery to it.

[@tsulkalu8640]

The Aztecs are one of the few civilizations conquered by Europeans that I don’t feel very sorry for considering what they did to neighboring tribes. There’s good reason why almost all other tribes agreed to help the Spaniards conquers them

[@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155]

Most cultures outside of Europe were disgusting and many of them only changed over time because they were ruled by european power's or indirectly forced. Some also simply adopted certain value's themself other's changed because of missionaries.

[@tsulkalu8640]

T Doran I’ve done a good but of research on Southeastern native tribes. They went to war all to time, partly for resources, partially for prestige. But they didn’t use neighboring tribes as farms for human sacrifice so I feel sorry for them

[@pendragonchen]

@@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155 Okay, boomer

[@metalwellington]

oh well then your superior sense of morality is almost divine

[@mikicerise6250]

@@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155 Cultures from Europe were also disgusting. The positively changed world we have now is a product of a process we call the Enlightenment - for good reason. Although the very first seeds of the Enlightenment were arguably planted by the Spanish authorities who formally declared that the indigenous peoples of America were human beings and full subjects of the Queen, and were to be Catholicized and absorbed just as if they were pagan Europeans, an idea that for late Dark Ages Europe was revolutionary - although obviously plenty of Spanish conquerors did not exactly accept it. This is one of the foundational ideas of what eventually developed into 'human rights'.

[@boxant]

idk man, spaniards seeming metal af here

[@ethanmoon3925]

Aztecs: Blood for the blood god? Spaniards: Are you the toughest guy here? Let's fight.

[@temptemp4174]

BoxANT they acting like Muslims idk why

[@darken2417]

@@temptemp4174 Acting like? You mean its not a Catholic thing to weep for the poor peasant sacrificed by the messengers or to challenge people to a duel after demonstrating your epic cannon?

[@alack3879]

"Exploring the seas to conquer new lands Troops arrayed by the church Sanctified and blessed they set out Crusaders, gentiles' scourge They fight, they kill, they rape Under the banner of the holy church They hunt, they lie, they cheat, they steal Doing dirty deeds Conquistadores Hungry for gold Doing as the religious madman told Conquistadores Religion's knight Havoc and death caused by pride Pearls of glass for ingots of gold Violence, force and deceit Taking the wealth or the Indian's life Their way of feeding their greed Heathen must turn to Christianity It's like "believe or die" Arrogance and blindness, religion's force Believers never ask the reason why" Conquistadors, Powerwolf

[@heretyk_1337]

@@alack3879 Well, it`s not like Aztec were saints either...

[@janesmith9024]

This is very good. Thank you. It reminded me of my trip to the remains of their city at Tulum.

[@rambokills2750]

Its awsome knowing what my ancestors thought, you are amazing man