SRW OGs: Chaos (Ext.)

[@togarashi6437]

RIP Hideyuki Umezu

[@ThatOneGuyBen]

Those are the scariest villains: Ones who almost make sense, are smart, and know that they are possibly slightly insane.

[@mememan2011]

@@Azural no

[@Panic00000]

"Sacrifices must be made to create an ideal world" Vindel, one of the best villians in OG

[@Brashgar]

How ironic, yet fitting that a heroic sounding song belongs to a man seeking everlasting chaos. That is one of the main reasons I love this song.

[@syrelian]

Its weird, cause both A and AP's version of Chaos imparts a significantly stronger sense of Menace to it, especially since it plays whenever ANYTHING Shadow Mirror engages in combat, really makes it clear that these mysterious enemies are not something that should be here and that Something Is Wrong

[@Yinlock470]

Ah, Vindel was a great villain. Iredeemable and crazy as hell, but just sane enough to be incredibly dangerous. Good villains are ones you seriously enjoy finally taking down.

[@edward8691]

Damn, I remember the very first time when I hear this song then suffering with this insanely strong boss…so scary

[@krex44]

Vindel and the Shadow Mirror are my favorite SRW villains.

[@todestriedichi11]

GBAの原曲の頃から司令塔のヴィンデルの小物っぽさと釣り合ってないぐらいに壮大すぎる雰囲気の音楽だったけど、シャドウミラーそのもののテーマというよりも、組織の理想が体現されてしまった混沌とした世界をイメージしたテーマなのかも

[@moatezmoussi9751]

the greatest SRW final boss theme of all times

[@butyraceousbrachiosaurus]

About to end phase, looking at enemy mech's stats. "HP Regen (L)" SHIT.

[@kakashi0909]

+butyraceousbrachiosaurus thats like Alduin shit on us here on Skyrim community. seriously HP Regen L? not even buster cannon can do shit on that if you did not cheat. what i mean was base level 0 damage.

[@kakashi0909]

hmm i can attest to that man. seriously, even without extensive training, mech upgrading or alert she can dodge nearly anything.

[@butyraceousbrachiosaurus]

***** yeah that's a pretty good strategy for someone who isn't a cheap bastard like me that doesn't just stick Leona in Wildwurger L and spam break/stun shot

[@LIXEF06]

+butyraceousbrachiosaurus Lucky me , i grinded myself a team of 7 with raised stat to 300 （¯﹃¯） It was painful , but being able to take on the boss in a brutal one on one fight was bloody worth it [ i am playing og2 on gba ]

[@butyraceousbrachiosaurus]

Felix Cote that doesn't sound fun but okay

[@藤乃宮-m3l]

遊戯王で切り札出した時に頭に流れる名曲

[@マリンボール]

ツヴァイよ、共に阿修羅となろうぞ

[@SarothCyngus]

O.O And I thoughyt RockMan no Constancy has this song epic. This is the first thing i've ever heard from a SRW game, and holy shit, this is incredible.

[@skynexus-7186]

Which one is worse, "Sacrifice must be made to create an ideal world" vs "To stop sacrifices, The civilization must be destroyed"

[@shauqiharris2772]

Both.

[@moatezmoussi9751]

good question

[@OrgussCentury]

Thank god I had ALL the combo attackers in my main party all nice and leveled. I don't think it is even possible to take these guys who pack like 600k with energy shields and hp regen down without them.

[@Kaoru_MaiAmeTsuchi9683]

A world so close, yet so far away... 極めて近く、限りなく遠い世界…

[@CasshernGuy]

This is still my favorite villain music ever, it's just PERFECT in every way

[@dragonarch0]

To some extent Vindel was right about evolution through wars and conflicts which is same in the real world too since technology in warfare is far more advanced than normal used technology. If there werent any wars,there wouldnt be high tech weapons,air crafts,tanks and submarines. World of constant wars and conflicts will surely evolve mankind technologically but in the long run its not possible at all which is why he got wasted in the end.

[@alienspacebat5218]

This seems like a strange song to have been used in Rockman no Constancy, but in that game, it somehow fits perfectly.

[@cainespade514]

These earthly villains must form their own super robot series, retain their natural boss trait in their own SRWs cameos, and start conquest of the universe. Wrecking havoc in the Balmar Empire. Eliminating the Einst realm. And so forth...

[@AAhmou]

That'd be an interesting twist I'd love to see realized.

[@dmon007]

So I just heard the 8-bit version of this theme at the end of Wily Stage 1 on Rockman no Constancy and just HAD to look the original up. Amazing!

[@syrelian]

This wasn't even the original, that'd be from SRW A (GBA)

[@AbsoluteZeroGravity]

He want a world with Eternal war? He's getting HTB in the face!

[@KotoneJulford]

SRW A did have an issue with being able to cheese the boss on the final level though; Amuro with a maxed Zaku II (It has the strongest post-move attack when upgraded and with four W-Up pieces) is able to do roughly 25k damage using his Miracle seishin. Combine that with the Revive seishin completely refilling SP on the revived character (And the fact that Amuro has enough SP to Miracle/Zeal, then suicide on his second attack), and you can one-turn the Zweisergain on something like turn 3.

[@ImUrZaddy]

For me, this BGM defines OG2

[@とある騎空士ケチロ]

GBAのスパロボはBGMで絶望感与えんの上手いんだよなぁ

[@InfinityZeroEX]

"I'll destroy you Vindel Mauser, along with system XN!" -Gilliam Yager a.ka. Helios Olympus.

[@borby4584]

Fun fact! The A Portable version of this song is actually slightly different! Specifically, it doesn’t have the big dramatic buildup, nor does it have the tambourine or the little hit of brass around 0:32

[@Warlordalexi]

Had he not been such a warmonger I could've agreed with him, for he does say a few things which hold wisdom... Such as the fact, that, without war, humanity would probably still be wearing suits of armor and swinging blades around, if not less than that. Yeah, war brings more sadness than joy, but, without war, where would rocketscience be? Or spacetravel? On those things, I can agree with him. But I was glad he went down eventually... His world of war was something that shouldn't be...

[@berserkberserker]

My personal favorite lines are: "Are you trembling in fear?... Are you prepared to die?!" I always yell out his line while I'm fighting him.

[@WildArmACF]

Chaos A really feels like the best version of this song. This is still good

[@historian252]

Nah

[@notdwaddler2013]

Natural Harmonia Gropius' final form. Who needs a legendary dragon when you have a mech that has as much regen as bloody Machine Cells?

[@AAhmou]

When "Nanomachines, son" has been taken to a whole new level.

[@demonicasoldier1770]

@@AAhmou These guys in SRWAP were no joke, holy shit

[@6CTCEL]

THIS IS THE POWER OF ZEIZERGAIN THE POWER TO WAGE WAR AGAINST THE ENTIRE WORLD!

[@D461Sage]

"Now DIE!!! So my ideals CAN LIVE!!!!" Once I got him to say "What?! You pierced my armor?!" After he got drilled by the Kurogane...if you know what I mean

[@rickicker]

@DonutsNeedSprinkles Well...-puts on hero outfit- You're wrong! What good is there to rule over a throne of corpses? People can not come together to repel a threat out of fear of their leaders! They can only come together and win if they believed in each other's strength! We have come here today to prove this to you! Together! Come, Vaisaga! This would be our final battle! -battle theme plays-

[@MisterHeroman]

Got me pumped everytime this played in OG2, when shit hit the fan.

[@死んだ方が良い人間の屑]

永遠の闘争・・・！ それこそが､我が理想なり！！

[@ポムポム-m3p]

AやらずにOGsやってたけど、ヴィンデルがボスで出てきたとき「え、こいつボスなの？」ってくらいカリスマなかった けど曲のカリスマ性とツヴァイザーゲインのかっこよさでゴリ押ししてきた

[@jonasbulota7789]

Toughest fight I had in OG2. He hits like a beast and regernates like a lizzard. Literally half of my team was dead, the other half was out of energy and ammo. I was barely doing enough damage to counter his regeneration. I don't remember who killed the Zweizergain, but it may have been ryukooh.

[@axelalmer22]

yeah cool Zweizergain...!!!

[@TheDevilSurvivor]

However, like Kyosuke, Elzam, Sanger, Excellen, Bullet, Kusuha, etc proved, even with 20 Robots and 2 Ships, an army of Men, Inspectors, Aerogaters, Shadow Mirrors and Einsts aren't enough to take us down. It may be wild and savage, but all we really need is the will to fight and win.

[@infringementMAN]

@Warlordalexi With war, man wears massive suits of armor and swing massive blades around. Oh and massive guns too.

[@InfinityZeroEX]

@DanielFilipeSCouto Yeah I fully upgraded the Cybuster and gave it high mobility plus double image. Nothing could touch it when I was done. Dygenguard and Aussenseiter I really only used for their team attack. The Alteisen Riese I did something more evil with then double image. I gave it the battle items and parts from beating the inspectors on Stage 15.

[@ZeranEmpire]

@Darkforce222 The scary part was he was so CLOSE to making sense. He DID have a point. A really damn good one.

[@yubelsgaurd]

a world of constant battle to bring on a much more rapid growth in technology. thats basically an excuse to kick some more ass isnt it? though i have to admit the zweizergain was pretty smexy

[@knight13117]

Majestic and chaotic...

[@oflightanddark]

Vindel awoken self:''Don't condone wars?Hah!Say that to the many people who victims of the corrupted.See how the corrupted uses pathetic ways just to entertain themselves.See how united people where during the start and ending of wars,see them develop,resesting corruption and purifying humankind whereas politics is controlled by those who failed to unite a nation resulting a divided social sociaty bent on their on beliefs.So I say war is the only way to prevent a fall of nation. Vindel Mauser"

[@Yukari_MAiG]

I wish they would have give the Zweizergain to our side or something. This robot is TOO awesome to just get destroyed.

[@wwp86]

This... is the power to wage war upon the world.

[@カズアルマー]

闘争を日常とする世界、間違っているのさ多分な・・・・・。 平和による腐敗も闘争による戦争制御も人が死にすぎる。

[@Maybe_I-m_Cait_Sith]

言い得て妙なんだよなぁ アホセルもアクセルもすこすこのすこ

[@Rahkshi500]

No. Even with war, corruption will eventually come back. Because the moment people give in to their darkness, when the heroes become the villains, when the good that fought for justice becomes the new evil, all the lives that were lost because of your war will be in vain.

[@onebillionstick]

@evilcleaver It more allows him to warp around everywhere, it's like a personal teleportation device

[@eosjagaer1326]

MIBz22 I totally thought that he looked like Megatron!

[@InfinityZeroEX]

@DanielFilipeSCouto Yeah, but since you can use it as well it's fair play. I made the God of the Wind, Cybuster, more so by giving it a part that put Double Image on it. Cybuster + Double Image= God of the Dodge Cybuster.

[@grandbaham]

Darkforce222: and did i ever enjoy taking him down!

[@Warlordalexi]

@bribirac5 Aye... Wish there were more wise people like that. War is, no matter how you look at it, a terrible thing. yet, it would seem it is somehow neccesary for us to evolve, to thrive...

[@BansheeHallow]

@Neophoenixfire I meant the Soul Gains( Soul Gains are there name right?).

[@FrozenSolid90]

If Vindel escaped, he probably would've become one of the most dangerous villains in SRW... As the Zweizergain did have the System XN, which last time when it was inside a mech kept changing it to fix it's weaknesses meaning the Zweizergain would've most likely come out of it all much stronger while already being quite powerful...

[@aciloraphael]

System XN is different from XN Geist

[@ericx6969]

If it got infected and etc. Copy the technology of v where finally boss copy all enemy mechas technology even mazinger zero getter energy etc and learned power of love and plot armor gg lol

[@oflightanddark]

Vindel:Your point?Didn't Kyosuke or whatever was backed with his friends aswell?Hell,he had more super robots than me.So I don't get what ur trying to say.I pilot the Zweizergain and that was no big deal.

[@oflightanddark]

@cyrus106 but only through war,the corruption will decrease dramaticly.I mean sure there is other way to do it but corrupttion will eventually find its way back through politic that exist in our world today.

[@evilcleaver]

@onebillionstick wow, thats even more awesome

[@agares1000hits]

yes it is

[@oflightanddark]

'The man who hungers chaos" hmmm...our current world needs more people like this in order to mantain the balance of good & evil.Discuss...

[@DusttheRegulus]

Now who would beat who in a straight up battle... Shu or Vindel?

[@JZ-gs5wk]

Shu can easily 1 shot Vindel

[@Zeonic_Newtype]

Neo Granzon can one shot everything...

[@Boss949]

*Jaryurin!*

[@hitmanreborn31]

IF srw A+D+R that would be awesome >:3 >:3 >:3 Robot in Part A: Mazinger team, Gundam, 08th Gundam, Daitarn 3, Zambot 3, Wing gundam, Daimos A, Combattler V, Votes V, Gundam 083, Zeta Gundam, G Gundam, Getter robot/G and Martian Successor Nadesico. The player character in Part A is Axel Almer :) on his way to restore his memeory , Axel can convince Lamia every time she show up (4 times ) then she will go with axel and join the london bell . Near chapter before final fight with Vindel . Axel can convince Lemon & Lamia can convince Echidna. IF you do it , 4 of them will show up in turn 5 in final chapter :) After the fall of shadow mirror army Axel and the other 3 with fowllowed soilders will live peaceful in this world :) :) :) This' s the end Part A :v :v Master gundam & Funsaki will alive and join London bell if domon kill 40 or higher :v Gato join london bell if you convince him with kou :) ( He join in GP-02 gundam) Gai will alive if Axel choose stay in the earth when he fight with devil gundam army because at this time gai have been shot (in anime) but alive :) and he will join you after Nadesico return to earth :) In zeta chapter if you let " Four" dead , event show up now Zeta gundam have killer attack Wave rider :) Noble Gundam : Have it encounter domon and master asia ( Don't kill her) and let Rain convince her :) The black horn (Getter enenmy) can join if you let musashi dead , this will activate event that the black horn destroyed but it pillot alive and control the old Getter robot :) Ryoma and the crew will pilot Getter G :v

[@hitmanreborn31]

The part B will star with super robot war D :v 3 years after Vindel fight :) :) You now can play both main character in D. The robot in Part B : Gundam - Gundam wing (Again) - Zetta Gundam - ZZ gundam - Victory Gundam - Metal dragon Dragonar - The big 0 - shin Getter - Macross 7 - Godmars - Future Robot Daltanious -Mazinger team :) Both main character can convince Glacies (the blue hair woman) and Ventus (the brown hair man) in chapter 13 and 25 :) after final chapter 4 of them will return to their old lab which is unknow :) (Just like axel and the other 3) +Daltanious extra weapon : Daltanious kill 50 or higher +Puru and puru 2: Choose Neo Zeon in 15 and Angle halo route and let judau convince theme in chapter 28. You will lose Hws gundam :v +Katejina and Chronicle: Choose Angle halo Route and let Usso Convince them. + V2 Assault Buster Gundam: Usso kill 60 or higher :v :v + Full Armor ZZ Gundam: Chapter 28 Angle halo :v + Reaction Weapons: Choose Macross 7 route in chapter 28 + VF-1J Valkyrie + Reaction Weapon: Gamlin's kill: 20 in Macross 7 route Chapter 28. + VF-11C Thunderbolt + Reaction Weapon: Gamlin's kill: 40 n Macross 7 route Chapter 28. + Nu Gundam HSW: choose sHin getter route in 15. + Gundam Mk-III: same with Nu Gundam HSW :v :v +Marg (Godmar) Takeru 55 kill or higher and let him convince Marg in chapter 34. +Rose (Godmar) Takeru must convince Marg before convince her :v :v + Vayeate and Mercurius: Have Hilde and Noin (Gunam wing) Combine kill over 30 or higher :v :v + Gabil and Sibil : Gamlin and Basara kill combine over 40 :v That the end of Part B

[@q8abdullah81]

Very heror sound !

[@Haru-doku]

@BansheeHallow Gespenst is a real robot.

[@Rahkshi500]

War may help in developing technology, but to make it into a daily routine in our lives? To make humanity expendable just for the sake of technological progress? Not caring about the expenses of others as long as you get the desired results? No, never! I can't accept Vindel's way of thinking, nor would I accept anyone who supports him.

[@notingles]

Gadaam villains... Aways have the best, unusable, themes. Looking at you, shadow mirrors, sure... But godaam PIERCING YOUR SOUL, shu and vindel, you epicness hoarders.

[@InfinityZeroEX]

@D461Sage You better pierce through the heavens with that drill or you'll do Gurren Lagann and Daitetsu a great disappointment.

[@the1niddo]

*shrugs* I'm just stating what I've found to be true when I played it. Only time I had to hang back to regain my SP was against the final boss (not the secret final boss, I screwed up earlier on and realized later I couldn't reach him).

[@ilLmaonadel]

All relative, if the Earth were to be in a constant war state/recycled war state, then you could argue that Earth's military would be both divided and weaker (from constant fighting), they would be more READY to fight a war, but raw military strength would definitely not be very high.

[@RyanEX2000]

His theory was that war drove development. Which is true. Things like the diesel engine, nuclear power, flight, deep sea development only really took off when they were percieved to have military applications.

[@Elyseon]

Constant war would drive humanity to extinction or just leave it vulnerable to alien bastards.

[@Twilightsarc]

Whether or not Vindel was right, the events of OG2 proved he was too incompetent to manage a world of controlled war. Look how quickly the war slipped out of his control.

[@peppercat1887]

Connor Levine Actually, he had all pieces going for him. The Einst were the issue but they are a colossal threat. Mitsuko was his key piece though and as soon as she couldnt cooperate with the Einst, things went to shit for him.

[@diablo81321]

溫德爾有那個嘴巴跟那個頭腦，但他的駕駛能力跟不上。 這台拿來給阿呆開恐怕戰鬥力是溫德爾的三倍吧，戰略家就該乖乖的坐在白金號上策畫好每一步，而不是往前線衝最後讓神機跟著自己一起躺在白星殘骸裡。

[@蕭宇軒-x5i]

變異響介:還好這玩意不是給阿克賽爾駕駛 不然群狼早被聯邦收掉了...

[@KaiHyouookami]

Not what I meant. What I meant was, if you're gonna fight endlessly, he had the right idea. 'Cause if anyone has to die for the sake of evolution within a species, fairness says that it should be the members of that same species, other species shouldn't be involved unless they involved themselves.

[@InfinityZeroEX]

@DanielFilipeSCouto I actually beat the game without doing the game over grind. It's only really hard if try to get the extra stage ending. The 1st Wodan Battle is ridiculous. I did beat it though my first playthrough. The first playthrough is always the hardest in my opinion, cause you don't know what to expect unless you look up a guide, but then I feel that sucks the fun out of it. I used alot of my more mobile mechs to take Wodan down. What's really hard is getting the battle mastery.

[@vorpalseraph]

Thought the robot in front was God/Burning Gundam at first...

[@jamauln1]

Except for the whole endless killing of people thing it's a good plan. If it were executed in a way like the Gundam Fights then maybe...

[@abc2390986]

Replayed SRW A and I feel like Vindel really doesn't deserve too much credits. The only reason why he is so dominating in OG is because technology in early OG era is pretty bad. Most heroes are operating mass produced Gespensts and there are only few super robots and most of them cannot fly. In SRW A Shadow Mirror's technology is nowhere as good as Londo Bell and they get rekted hard through the whole time. In SRW A's world Gespenst lost competition against Dragonar and Vindel could only hope to use dirty tricks such as capturing hostages to slow down the heroes but failed ultimately. Also Axel and Wodan should be ashamed of challenging Kyosuke and Sanger when their rides are larger and heavier than Alt Eisen and Dygenguar and they have absolute air supremacy over their rivals.

[@evilcleaver]

is system xn what allows the zweizergain to copy itself and is it ever really explained?

[@tntaclegrape]

@Warlordalexi So sad but true =(

[@the1niddo]

I found that Focus was enough for my characters when up against the Ashsabers. That's 8-12 SP as they also had the ability that reduced their SP costs. You should have plenty of SP for that level unless the GBA version I was playing is a lot different from the PS2 version. If you really need to, take out the Ashsabers, then sit back and recharge your SP for a few turns before taking out Vindel. Irm was particularly fine: with his Ace Bonus and reduced SP costs, Love is only 4 SP more than Valor

[@InfinityZeroEX]

@DanielFilipeSCouto The only secret I looked up was beating the inspectors on stage 15. The items were so worth it. I didn't get them on my 1st playthrough. I got the extra stage without cheats. I think the hardest time I had with Wodan was trying to defeat him one on one with Sanger. And I've had my fair share of Double Image annoyances. I was glad I never had to fight Shu in OG2. He was a bitch in OG1.

[@evilcleaver]

@evilcleaver is there a place where i can download the ogs soundtrack?

[@AeoLynx_]

If you know that you are insane, you clearly are not. Although the person who told me that claimed to be perfectly sane...

[@bridgettejasperreyes7567]

Everybody is insane... they just differ in how much they are... Society just tolerates that insanity until a certain level... it's only when you go beyond that certain level do you get sent to the asylum... (^_^)

[@Markynaz]

Vindel in the anime was a TOTAL goddamn wuss. In the original SRT A on GBA he was one tough son of a bitch in the final level. You have NO idea how much I wish I had fucking Granzon with me...

[@เล็กแซ่เจี่ย-พ1ฅ]

0:15

[@Alicethefox96]

Am I the only one who thought this guy was harder to kill than the Neu Regisseur?

[@Haru-doku]

@BansheeHallow Zweizergain.

[@谢蚺冉]

为了比利

[@silvermoon551]

nowadays, Zweizergain just looks like a big, blue Gunmen. (Gurren Lagann fans will know what I'm talking about.)

[@KaiHyouookami]

...so fighting other species is ok? isn't that a tad bit of discrimination?

[@mysticcrimson]

His incompetence lies in the writing for the game. Einsts and Inspectors were more powerful and according to him should hold more value because it'll force mankind to make even more destructive robots, but clearly we couldn't get Banpreios and other units this early into the series so he got shafted.

[@princessstevm]

Um, what? Use Strike. All of your characters need to have SP Regen anyway.

[@katheringuerra1378]

Lo maiximo menol

[@ericx6969]

Anime did him dirty

[@moatezmoussi9751]

true

[@WhyyouSodesperate]

SRW OG universe vs SRW MIRROR UNIVERSE 😂