B-17G - "Turbulent Skies... So Much Disaster!"

[@botimegaming]

What aircraft would you like to see featured on the channel in the future?

[@hinez3663]

Bv238

[@conradvernon8156]

SAAB 105-G

[@thundermite1241]

B-29 or the skyshark

[@TaresaNephew]

A-10 early II

[@TRIGGER49]

ME262,B-25

[@panzerkampfwagenvausfa5381]

Ah, yes, "Extreme Overload 1G." Truly the B-17 Experience.

[@jedinight235]

I fucking know right I ripped at 3g's.

[@Jatzki]

​@@jedinight235 Thats the normal tho

[@andylopez6145]

I know right 😂

[@titansparta3920]

​​​@@JatzkiB-17 frames were supposed to be rated for 5G. But we're built for 3.5. But could only withstand 2G

[@Jatzki]

@@titansparta3920 I was talking about wt, but still a fun fact

[@Hunterstiq]

Gaijin really needs to rework the damage models on bombers. 1G Turn? Lose a wing. 20mm round? Detonate entire fuselage. Machine gun rounds from a deflecting angle? Fuel fire and two engines dead. Recovered from a fire? Well that is great, lose your entire rudder.

[@sawyerawr5783]

the Bomber damage models have been borked for a decade. ever since the Yer-2 nonsense started. rather than actually change a single plane (and a soviet one at that), the devs just did their usual "balance via sledgehammer" routine. And before somebody says anything: there's a reason the B-17 is legendary for it's resilience, and the B-24 isn't. Nevermind that I'm still not convinced this game models MG/autocannon spread of fire accurately.

[@mmx4gaming12]

Gaijin needs to do alot of work in their game bombers have been screwed since day 1.

[@Dire_Pack]

​@@sawyerawr5783 funny how the B-24 and B-25 in WT can take hefty damage with no problem but these B-17's take ome or two hits and BAM... Dead.

[@Toxik_Tobi]

playing bomber seems like a lot of fun. I really like flying in a straigt line for minutes untill I finally get shot down without doing anything.

[@Lintlicker_69]

U mean a fighter when ur shit like me

[@Monopoly907]

Ah the "loses entire wing from 5 20mm shots" bomber

[@kirotheavenger60]

Tbh that's pretty accurate The difference between Warthunder and IRL is the experience level of the opposition. In game, even the lowliest scrub has many, many, many times more flying hours than your average pilot - and almost all of it engaged in direct combat. They have accuracy skills that a WW2 pilot could only dream of. Plus the controls are just a lot easier ingame, which again makes it just so much easier to engage and bomber and land 5 20mm rounds right in a single spot. Whereas IRL they'd kinda be spread willy nilly across the sky.

[@Account5945]

​@kirotheavenger60 the other unrealistic part is that no fighter pilot would sit behind a bomber eating mg rounds trying to shoot their tail/wing off

[@devlintaylor9520]

@@kirotheavenger60 but a tail being cut loose from a couple shots? also the wing get holes and lose effectiveness, but it wouldnt outright make the plane unflyable right?

[@sawyerawr5783]

@@kirotheavenger60 controls are oversimplified, accuracy is somewhat better than you'd expect out of aircraft-mounted guns...oh, and the big thing: the game pathologically spawns bombers so they get to the AO before their fighters. IE something that would never be allowed to happen IRL. And even fully trained gunners somehow don't deter a fighter from boring in. I'm here to tell you: even a couple B-17s such as in this video should be absolutely a no-go zone for enemy fighters. there's a reason the bomber box was used.

[@Trooper221]

@@kirotheavenger60 It's not accurate, in real life you'd actually have to control the plane with a variety of flight controls while keeping it stable enough to get enough ammo on target to down it, meanwhile Warthunder has you just put your cursor over the target and shoot. There's a massive difference in the level of skill that it takes to even go from WT to a combat flight sim. I'd bet someone who has only played Warthunder wouldn't last long when given a flight stick and made to fly anything on an IL-2 game in a combat scenario.

[@mahieuwim]

Ah. The B-17 Flying Fortress. Famous for being able to absorb huge amounts of damage and still make it home. Meanwhile in War Thunder, it takes a single 20mm round to bring it down... or a sustained left turn.

[@christopherchartier3017]

Meanwhile the Pe-8 has a ufo flight model. Don’t get me started on the 264’s maneuverability

[@brendenburke272]

@@christopherchartier3017 what about the i15,16 and i185

[@hammer1349]

​@@christopherchartier3017or death star turbo laser mg 151s

[@christopherchartier3017]

@@brendenburke272 They actually seem ok lol

[@christopherchartier3017]

@@hammer1349 I feel like the MG151 does well against fighters but their effectiveness should certainly be lowered against bombers a bit

[@EnderMalcolm]

B-17s are fun to fly, until you get looked at anyways! And remember, you won't get out, not when it dives at 300 knots.

[@arethmaran1279]

The electrics keep you alive, the wires, the cables, up there at those 30,000 feet.

[@USAFStingerCop]

Bo, my late father would have loved seeing your B-17G in this video. My dad was a flight engineer/top turret gunner in the same unit as Man O War II. Dad was in the 322nd, 91st BG in 1944/45 and flew missions alongside Man O War. Dad normally was assigned to The Bride of Mars and Wee Willie, both of which were shot down after Dad completed his tour of duty. Though Dad probably would have face palmed at TBLF’s idea of formation flying, I am sure he would have been thrilled to see you keeping the memory of his WW2 unit alive. Thanks for all the great videos!

[@skykidandshaun]

Me: Mom I want to watch masters of the air Mom: We have masters of the air at home. Masters of the air at home:

[@Sonoran.Monsoon]

Flight graphics here far superior to MotA though.

[@jtl05]

Always love watching TBLF fly their planes to the *extreme* and by that, I mean a minor turn in any direction that exceeds a G.

[@gunt-her]

"lookout, lookout, LOOKOUT!!!" While doing nothing to avoid the inevitable.

[@Orangefan77]

What's he supposed to do, *pull 1 G* ???

[@nekophht]

Ah yes, WT. Where every match is Black Thursday for bomber pilots. Keep up the entertainment, Bo & Co!

[@johnbenson4672]

Gaijan turning a legendarily tough aircraft into ...this... keeps me from playing the game. The enemy sneezes somewhere vaguely in it's direction and the B-17 explodes into many large pieces.

[@Goatfer]

I find it strange the B-17 constantly snaps it wings but the Lanc and PE-8 can stunt plane flying.

[@panagiotisgr8070]

Last time you flew the B-17 was how I first came across the channel, now you're the only WT related channel I still follow, keep it up.

[@ScreamingMerlin]

I saw it was a b-17 video and I was thinking "Oh this is going to be GOOD"

[@ahalfsesameseedbun7472]

Gaijin really needs to fix the b-17

[@edwardsmith4722]

I find it funny how the most threatening enemy to a B-17 is a high g (1) maneuver

[@jogofi4592]

they need to buff the heck out of the b17 its almost impossible to play without dying, one 20mm shouldnt rip the entire aircraft in half long ways

[@johnemmert9012]

Tell me Gaijan is on crack without telling me Gaijan is on crack with these aircraft and the BR rating. You would have thought the Germans built 10,000 TA-152s

[@LazlotheInstigator]

Is this the one where Stickboi dies... again and again?

[@catonaconsole]

Isn’t that all of them?

[@cwallace1951]

Hate how weak bombers are in war thunder

[@Konghammer1]

I don't get it either. B17 is arguably the best bomber of WW2 hands down across the board in EVERY single conceivable way. War thunder version: copilot spits into a cup, b17 snaps in half from the "impact". It's soo intensely far off from what it was actually capable of that you KNOW it was done intentionally because someone hated that the Americans dominated WW2 and just couldn't allow it to be so in game.

[@Bornst3ll3r]

@@Konghammer1lmao so true

[@Chicken12Salad]

​@@Konghammer1they don't care about player experience very much if you haven't already noticed

[@kaiberuss]

b-17 thinks about turning, plane folds in half

[@Bongoid]

I love how totally realistic these in game damage models are.

[@Phoenix_Phelan]

I really wish they'd go and fix the bomber flight models. Tails have been snapping like twigs for far too long. I also wish they'd make missions, or more events, for bombers, to give them a better purpose in the game. Kinda like the P51 escort mission that they bring back every now and then, but more so emphasized on the bomber perspective than the fighters. I know the reason they probably don't do it is inability to get ai fighters working well enough, and they don't like focusing on PvE, which is what it would need... but bombing missions for each country and tier would be pretty cool. It's just a little disheartening to see the potential for missions like that in the game, but knowing it'll probably never happen. Like bomber interior models lol *cries* (yes i know there are other games that do have a better bombing experience. War Thunder just has some of the best looking flight models and flight controls that i have ever experienced (imo), and those QOL updates for bombers i don't think would be that difficult if they actually set to it, and i think would be far more liked and used than other things they are doing, like naval)

[@The-Floor.]

The flying fortress, made of only the strongest cardboard

[@angryeliteultragree6329]

Jesus they nerfed this thing into the god damn ground. US bombers were damn near impossible to kill. German Anti Air crews reported that they didn’t shoot at them because it’s a waste of ammo. There’s bombers that have literally been struck by multiple direct 8,8 shots and made it home.

[@TheRealTburt]

I know. A game that focuses on realism but then backs off because players complain. World of Warships is the same. The battleship players were getting butthurt because Japanese destroyers were devastating them with torpedoes like what happened irl.

[@LeverActionBoi]

that tail is as strong as my will to live

[@TomPrickVixen]

Actually the moment u loose at least 2/3 of the rudder on any plane, the game says "fuck physics" and u are dead,(and go into a flat-spin no matter what) despite the plane otherwise still would be able to fly! And I do believe that all bomber tails are "factory defective" in this game! I mean bombers are way too easy kills than their real life counterparts.

[@russbennett5470]

Yeah I remember when the game first came out and bombers were harder to kill and then everyone else started bitching about it and now we got the Boeing update where literally one 7.62 round will take your whole plane apart no matter what you’re flying

[@TomPrickVixen]

@@russbennett5470 I know; I play WT since it was CBT (in my 1st acc i even found the achievement for it, when i logged on to it, just to see if it still works, 5 months ago).

[@TheRealTburt]

I know. You hear stories of planes like Ol' 666 and you know that Gaijin does this for "balance."

[@ghOStDiVision790]

​​​@@TheRealTburtyou also have "ye old pub" which got shot up to hell and another b17 that had a bf 109 (correct me if im wrong) crash into it and left the entire tail section barely holding on and both of them made it back to base

[@halfgecko3202]

​@@ghOStDiVision790 that was the "All American" that got hit by the 109. There were also two that collided midair and got locked together ("Nine Lives" was one of them), the two planes stayed together until they hit the ground where the bottom plane disintigrated. Then there's also "Old 666", which ended up looking like one of those "survivorship bias" diagrams and still landed safely; and also pulled extreme menuvours for a B17.

[@RyRy_941]

I would suggest a drinking game where you take a shot every time Bo loses his tail, but I'm pretty sure you would die from alcohol poisoning if you try that.

[@smigoltime]

Disasters of the Air

[@Enclaveforever]

3:46 Bo: Chris? Chris: Bo? (high five)

[@cet0708]

I flew my B-17 out after finishing Masters of the Air, it’d been a while. Never again lol.

[@michelarsenault4088]

One time in a match, i was in a B-17, got attacked by no less than 7 planes all but 1 engine destroyed holes bigger than trees everywhere, dark red or black along the entire plane and most of the crew dead. Worst of all, i only had 3 kills that game as the B-17 But i survived Praise the Snail and the American Dream

[@sayjack1328]

You take 2 cannon rounds and the B17s tail just rips off. I mean come on, as much as the B17 had fawls it was very survivable. But dont worry, there is no bias in WarThunder

[@AP-1138]

Man, it’s been a while since we’ve seen a B-17 on here. It’s nice. Time for the B-29 again then lol!

[@zeacrossstormblade6819]

Thank you for your sacrifice in playing bombers for this video

[@SomeGuy-dq8pn]

Always wonderful to see Chris and Chris! Your prop videos are my favorite!

[@nickkozak4763]

3:38. I can not tell you the fury i felt when his tail just popped off like that.

[@matthewrikihana6818]

Intense nostalgia as I recall my introduction to KZbin and this crowd arguing in DCS. 😊

[@cyberwarrior720]

The 2005 Dukes of Hazzard reference at 11:32, I instantly knew what scene you are referring to and I'd hate to have been Luke and that safe. 😂

[@admiralkosovothefirst]

And thats why i have playing bombers like you fly for minutes on end just to die and do it all over again.Peak bomber gameplay

[@quinlaw2755]

Omg I haven’t watched a war thunder video in months u less it’s bo and bombers thank you so much

[@timbit4tim]

0:29 hey thats me in the I-225 :D

[@Phoenix_Phelan]

The "A bit of Grace" skin looks really nice! If I ever use the b17 again, will have to look into getting that.

[@cptmidnight6117]

3:20 Everything was going along pretty well until it wasn't. 😂

[@bacongod4967]

Even in death, my powers continue

[@conradvernon8156]

been up for 18 seconds. usually i see stuff about one hour after you upload. best day ever.

[@eclipsegalian567]

I came 2 minutes too late lol

[@TrickiVicBB71]

You guys gunning down other heavy bombers brings me back to watching "Very Honorberu" series from The Mighty Jingles & Phlydaily

[@JeremiahBaddorf]

Oh my goodness!!! A b-17 video!!!! LETS GOOOO. THANKS BO

[@LilyHavener-mz8fc]

More bomber shinanigans 😉😉 got to love it

[@tallleprechaun1318]

Lovley to see Chris, Ham, and Bis again

[@Caintuckiee]

YES, Bismarck is back !!

[@ForchinBrewer]

Just finished watching Masters of the air on Apple TV, then I thought I’d be nice to see a B-17 video. The universe works in mysterious ways

[@khannaraha8817]

Ham, buddy, I know you can do amazing things as a pilot but when it comes to you in a bomber the safety disance isn't measured in feet anymore...it's in states!

[@Gimergames]

What the hell am I watching? You guys are hilarious. Just kinda stumbled on this. I could listen to this as a podcast. You guys are funny as hell . It’s like “Monty pythons- bomber squadron alfa “ or something probably funnier cuz I’m not a comedian.

[@AR_119]

Watch their rainbow six siege videos. Basically imagine them trying to do swat stuff. Its comedy gold 😂

[@Mr1borrego2]

"I'm familiar with his work" Classic Bo stoicism, brilliant but DOOMED.

[@SlipKnot7866]

Man I wish bombers were a bigger part of the game in their own mode some how.

[@AntoniNSB]

0:20 that is the most epic thing I seen all day😎🔥✈️

[@robloxninja22]

I remember when the B17 could tank a few shots before a wing or the tail was ripped off, now it just falls apart like its being held together with hopes and dreams

[@Aeroyaystryker-bk2fs]

Literally the best cinematic gameplay ever

[@ardrek_]

Yes!!! Old Skool Bomber Video... True classic TBLF territory 😂😂

[@ES031]

Love how it was the same 335 that killed Bo on separate occasions

[@rociolozano2040]

FINALLY A NEW B-17 VID I WAITED 3 YEARS THANK U THANK U THANK U THANK U!

[@nosnhoj99]

This is like the b29 experiment video you did a few years back. One minute everythings fine next minute the planes on fire the tails fallen off.

[@KrisPhoenix-cr2dr]

So amazing how to choose to play the B-17, it's one of my favorite plane and i am still trying to grid the 5.0 B-17

[@MrMagnat007]

This is probably the first video where Bismarck's rage didn't turn him into Skidmarck.. His Anger management must be working.

[@Phoenix_Phelan]

I feel called out by that bank account joke xD I know not how anything doing with that works, i just hope the green goes the correct direction lol

[@Phage-]

They make bomber flying so entertaining

[@SahilChaudhary-e9w]

The last time he did a B-17 Video he turned it into a fighter. Freedom Doesn't Knock It Rings

[@calebwright8050]

thanks for playing the b-17, its my favourite plane

[@youtube-comment-account]

Honestly a lot of times your banter is...not my thing, but this whole video is hilarious.

[@MrRenegadeshinobi]

This is the crew I wish I had.

[@LORDSHIPICKLE]

B-17 looks like if a semi-truck was made to fly and drop bombs

[@alissx9]

It’s been a while since bo played one of the big boy planes

[@jakecole7447]

2:53 Me 20 Kilometers away in the enemy team: 👁🔭

[@richardstory6650]

Bo, Bo, Bo. The B-17 is a BOMBER, not a fighter. You can do extreme manoeuvres with it. But you do have my sympathy; the rest of TBLF can't seem to fly in a straight line without shenanigans.

[@AntoniNSB]

This is a cinematic masterpiece😎

[@TheManWhoAteTheWorld]

Yes!!! Videos like your old B-24 and old B-17 videos!!!

[@Deuce_and_a_half]

This is why I exclusively fly the B-17’s in Sim mode. Much more effective

[@djordan503]

You've got a hole in.... well everything

[@MenGamer127]

Aircraft collision in a B-17 with the texas raider camo? Too soon?

[@pmcoutch7473]

It seems that chris is more dangerous to his squad mates than the enemy is.😂

[@Queen_Bee_82]

I love this plane!! 😊 Thank you for a fantastic video!! 💜

[@Mati_Panzer]

those lancaster vs B-17 want me want to see a full on big bombers vs big bombers event

[@erikwilliam1254]

You won't get out... Not when it dives at three-hundred knots.

[@timothyfulkerson6785]

B17's where never this weak i wish they where more tanky

[@cryptobox128]

Bismark on the B-17: "It's a good machine." Yes it was, but woud someone please tell that to GAIJIN??

[@InvalidHuman0099]

Thank you guy for the birthday present this is awesome!

[@adamtruong1759]

I don't know how, but somehow this seems worst than the PB4Y video, and I thought that video was the epitome of the 4-engined bomber experience.

[@Skylikesavation]

Wouldn’t be a heavy bomber video if it didn’t started with air to air collisions

[@SirMikato]

EYYYYYY HAM IS BACK!!!! havent seen him in a long while

[@bavondale]

a couple years ago u did "Idiots in bombers". This looks like part 2

[@nopenope4938]

god watching these things just get melted like wet paper is so disappointing, these should be so much more durable. its one thing to maybe not make it back to base after a round cause of getting fightered, but being a 10 second detour where you just get disintegrated before even getting a bomb off every single game is just unbalanced

[@imthesenate6278]

Bro definitely saw The Masters of the Air

[@lowkeymanifestingdestiny5480]

When the pilot sees his own tail fly past the front of his aircraft. hmm that's not supposed to be there😂

[@casualaviator]

THE B17 IS BACKKK!!!!!

[@reecevalentin6007]

I wish there was a bomber pve mode half the reward but its more laid back gameplay where you can focus on bombing targets

[@DrHundTF2]

I mean, at this point you either enjoy being bullied, or you’re afraid to play an appropriate gamemode for this sort of plane

[@Orangefan77]

Judging by the number of new spawns and fresh formations, this must have taken you guys over 4 hours to record.