B&M HYPER COASTER! - Realistic Planet Coaster Park Series - #11 - Grosvenor Gardens

[@charlesshoemaker3929]

Hey! Just a tip; Usually coasters above 200 feet tall have a red blinking light at the top, for planes.

[@Nerdchacho]

Good shout, is that for Europe too? ie Italy and UK?

[@Gimeasamich]

@@Nerdchacho It’s just an american thing, source: wikipedia

[@Nerdchacho]

I'll check uk and Italy then in that case, I imagine there will be similar..

[@ThemePark_Pulse]

Love how immersive the coaster is as it swings through the terrain and trees. Good job! 👍

[@Nerdchacho]

Me too! It'll be awesome when the other rides come into play too... and the whole thing is finished off...

[@Poostick]

Ayyy the ride went back into the station ;) Love how quickly you take feedback even if it is something small. Your videos are really making me want to carry on with my park now!!

[@TheCatsofVanRaptor]

Well it would seem as if you’ve done such a great job, can’t wait for the next area and for us to ride everything with all the scenery done. (First half that coaster was like yay tunnel, yay mud, yay mud, look, mud)

[@TheCatsofVanRaptor]

Holiday World has three coasters with tunnels at the first drop. Raven, Legend and the Voyage. All crazy awesome coasters

[@thecrappygamer1522]

Hey!! Love your videos. I have a little bit of a critique. Your drops for your hyper and rmc are a little unrealistic. The drop of the b&m should not have a straight section in the drop. Is should be a nice flowing drop. Same with the rmc. But other than that it has an amazing layout!!!

[@Nerdchacho]

Both drops are profiled to real life counterparts.....

[@thecrappygamer1522]

@@Nerdchacho it might just be me comparing it to my home parks b&m hyper

[@Nerdchacho]

@@thecrappygamer1522 if you look at candymonium, there is about a train and a half worth of flat track on the drop.. which this has the same of.. granted, you can only spot it when a train is actually at that point, but trust me, I promise it is there..

[@thecrappygamer1522]

@@Nerdchacho Trust you!!! Your parks are like art. And I’m glad there’s someone on KZbin who does realistic parks in Planet Coaster

[@MandJGames]

Great coaster! The sight lines are really looking great and I love that tmtk wall piece. I wish we had that on console. I Gotta disagree with you this time about Cedar Point. They always build a coaster that breaks a record then everybody else has to beat them. But I will say I think the top 4 at Kings Island rival the top coasters at cedar point. Mystic Timbers is amazing. Cedar point is missing a good Wooden Coaster.

[@Nerdchacho]

Alton Towers says hi................. haha Cedar point had one... then it sold out to the RMC hype haha

[@MandJGames]

@@Nerdchacho Lol. Yeah alton towers is the true leader in first for coasters. You are definitely correct. You got me there. Lol

[@1WolfFan]

Cedar Point has a nice assortment of coasters... But very few interesting flat-rides... and needs more theming than just the Frontierland in the back that has exactly two and a half good rides in it. Thunder Canyon, Mine Ride, Hammer Swing, and Snake River Falls. But Wolf, you just listed 4 rides when you said 2.5... Yeah, and? Still equals 2 and a half good rides, in my book. ;) Hey, if Nerdchacho can be contrarian just because he can, so can I. LOL

[@TheCatsofVanRaptor]

I love how between seven minutes and eight and a half you suddenly were able to go to the gym, catch an ickies, come back, notice the ick, test for nonscents be cleared of the untaste, come back and just continue on being your silly George self

[@skjosh007]

i love this guy man

[@jk-joe5757]

Taking a page out of your book and inventing a new word to describe this episode "Amaziant". 👍

[@Nerdchacho]

Oh, that's a cool word actually! I might sneak it in some-where...

[@TheCatsofVanRaptor]

I think we should all chip in for chacho to go to San Dusky and experience CP

[@CatsnCoasters]

Damn your sight lines are awesome! So well thought out, can't believe how much you're able to accomplish in a week. This was my fav vid of the series so far. Hope you're feeling better. 👍

[@Nerdchacho]

Imagine what the 2 week project is going to look like.... haha Spoiler, I'm half way through week 1 and already at, I think, 60k pieces...

[@CatsnCoasters]

@@Nerdchacho can't wait to see what you've managed to conjuer up!

[@Nerdchacho]

@@CatsnCoasters anyone I've shown sp far have all said the same thing... "it looks like planet zoo"...... 🤔

[@sonnysinnot7110]

Love the coaster, as I was watching this I was building a hyper on NL2, for planco, that ride is as close to perfectly smooth as u can get

[@YannisGoedermans]

You could've gone with the one based on Sky Screamer at Hershey park (I believe it called Tiamat in game) and swapped out the trains on that one to the Mac trains. That would've been a proper Intamin.

[@Nerdchacho]

Not without the mod you can't.

[@mattybice09]

It's Skyrush btw :)

[@jaredstivers]

Great coaster I agree with partially of your Cedar Point asument. When Six Flags and Paramount were fighting for the Coaster wars of Ohio, Cedar Point was in a war then. When 2007 happened and Cedar Point owned all Ohio parks, owning another company and Six Flags crash and burn. It left Cedar Point in a weird place. Now they are the Kings with no competition, as of now, so they just started adding Record breaking coaster as a Stunt, Gatekeeper and Valraven come to mind but Steel Vengeance was a good edition as something special like Maverick. So you were right when you said Cedar Point has a lot of mid tier coaster since they got there fan boys so trained, if it not a world record then they get mad

[@Nerdchacho]

It is interesting though because while all of that infighting was going on and every-one shouting louder than every-one else, the likes of Alton and Thorpe were doing their thing quietly and introducing NEW rides never seen before, rather than trying to beat existing.. So while Cedar Point were distracted by being taller, faster, better.. Tussauds (now Merlin) were focussed on being innovative. Making Cedar Point, in comparison, meh. Any-one can be bigger, better and faster, but not every-one can be innovative.

[@WolfRaging95]

I agree with you on the hot take for Cedar Point.

[@fusy83]

saucy i think for a future park you should do one thats run by a company that doesnt care or invest anymore than they have to about the park Also congrats on 4k

[@Nerdchacho]

I sorta tried that with Dismay... it wasn't that fun.. PlanCo is too polished to do crappy... that's the problem.. But thanks for the congrats!! on the road to 5 now! yaaay! And your.. "stuff" too :)

[@fusy83]

@@Nerdchacho oh yeah Completely on topic You mention in your last vid (or the one before... or the one before that one... or) about a mod that adds invisible paths? Where is this

[@Nerdchacho]

@@fusy83 it was on discord. The link i have doesn't work anymore, but I understand that it is still around somewhere.. it is on discord...

[@BizonX100]

Ok i have watched some of ur videos and i have seen that your style is very realistic to what a park like this would look like. I cant say that that style works for me. It doesn’t get me going when building. I was just wondering what your thought on unrealistic parks are in this game. I enjoy your videos and all but your style doest translate over to my game ig. I cant seam to find other creators with this stand on the game either. Any recommendations?

[@Nerdchacho]

Thank you so much for this question, this is my favourite question to answer because there is a long and a short answer to it. The short answer is that is is just a game. It should be fun and you make your own fun. However that is. The longer answer is that every single one of us has a play style. Some of us love realistic parks where they can imagine that we own and run the parks we have created, which could be seen in the real world and contains every slight detail about everything in that park; right down to where plug sockets would be located in a hotel room. Some of us want to make our own versions of real life parks and see what it would be like to have a 4D coaster in Cedar Point and some of us want to bowl coasters into people to watch them fly. There is no "correct" way to play a game like this - and nor should there be - as it happens some of the most popular videos online are the clickbaity ones of peep bowling or coasters that will kill you. I only create the parks I do because I have the desire to do the first one, the skill within the game after 6500 hours and the real-life knowledge having worked for a real life theme park - so as you can imagine, it is that which makes me tick. But if you want to just "plop and play" where you take a tonne of workshop stuff and use that to create a park then do that. Planet Coaster is not narrative driven. There is no common end goal. There are no rules, so don't play as if there are. Of course and unrealistic park can't be called realistic and none of my parks would be a Disneyland any-where in the world. Neither is correct and neither should be. Have fun. It's just a game.

[@BizonX100]

@@Nerdchacho Thanks for the reply. Must say that was well said. I will be enjoying your content going forward. Wish you the best of luck in this. :)

[@azaelue5]

See ? Sea ? Hmmm... How sus-sea...

[@sadpizza5918]

As cp being my home park, I kinda agree

[@TheCatsofVanRaptor]

Hmmm… i looked and it seems that there was no explosive residue attached to the last episode. Many views, but its not even registering on this pting pting dingdingdingding weewooweewoo machine

[@jaredstivers]

I kinda want to see in your next project design a Six Flags/SeaWorld park in the UK. Or a England investor buys the right to the Hardrock/Freestyle music park and built it in the UK/USA. It would be cool to see this park that open it doors on the market crash succeed

[@Nerdchacho]

We kinda did that with Chacholandia though.... Just without the nautical theme

[@TheCatsofVanRaptor]

Something tells me your comfortable temperature and my comfortable temperature do not align.

[@stormxcloud]

I agree, Cedar Point is crap, but not for the reason you have. Have you tried tilting the ride spot dot on the floor a little, very little, so one side would look worn away?

[@Nerdchacho]

Oh, what a cool trick. I'm going to try that out!

[@shieldeddragon7828]

Intamin wing? Skyrush style but with better restraints

[@rAndy_883]

26:39 what about to build a food/eating area on the right?

[@Nerdchacho]

Maybe a grab and go unit.. yes. There's quite a bit of dead space between the areas, so it would certainly fit.. I'll look into it once I know how the whole park looks because I suspect this won't be the only area primed for that :)

[@ShadowFlame4]

I think the supports on the lift should be a little thicker, but the placement is great.

[@Nerdchacho]

They're the correct ones for the hyper. I checked. With B&M themselves. I literally have no idea how they stay up... A giga with 2 supports and one isn't even at the top of the lift hill?! It is witch-craft. At least in the UK we don't have to anchor everything down to the nth degree because we don't have tornadoes, hurricanes or earthquakes worth making legislation for.

[@ShadowFlame4]

Nerdchacho that’s true. I guess it just looks strange when the in-game supports on lower elements seem thicker than the ones holding the 200+ ft segments

[@Nerdchacho]

@@ShadowFlame4 yeah, the game is not kind to that.. like the profiling of the first drop too.. loads of people are staying it is wrong when it is the exact same as candymonium, but the scale of the hyper track, the graphics and camera angles make it look wrong.. I can't change that, I can't re-code the game to suit people's taste...

[@ShadowFlame4]

Nerdchacho here’s hoping PC2 has more track customization instead of relying on TMTK to put over stuff

[@trishdriedger1]

Chacho Chacho if cedar point is only filler rides than Alton towers only has theming

[@Nerdchacho]

Oh honey, alton towers is barely themeing at best.... 🙈🤣

[@bennachman553]

Can I re-profile that first drop for you? It looks like arrow made it

[@Nerdchacho]

You might want to talk to Hersheypark about that one because they are the exact same drops

[@bennachman553]

Your shaping is off though. The first drop is designed to have a pop of airtime and is very parabolic. Yours it looks like you got to your maximum angle way to early and the drop is a lot flatter than modern B&Ms

[@Nerdchacho]

@@bennachman553 While I can't publish or disclose the document I'm using to profile the drop because a, I'm not meant to have it and b, it is confidential - what I can do is this. Have a look at the pic here: images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5c184d3c5417fce985a2a108/1594492362022-ENJ3K4ISIF9IJ034E5C8/image-asset.jpeg?format=1000w Then compare it to the view at roughly 2:45 in the video.Excusing the obvious supporting issues, the key difference is the angle of decent - which on mine is steeper by design which makes it look weird. Ultimately, the length of track that the drop is "straight" for is the same on both coaster - 1.5 trains worth. The angle of decent and pull out is the same ratio as Candymonium, just from a steeper angle of decent. There is an issue in the game where the track for the hypers is not the correct width and so looks thinner than the real-life counterpart. Well, I can't do anything about that, I can't re-code the game to suit people's tastes. Every coaster I build is cross-referenced to official design documents I used to have access to at my old job. I can only do the best with PlanCo. It's just a game.

[@bennachman553]

@@Nerdchacho I mean not to argue with you good sir, only to offer a suggestion. I personally believe the profile of the drop could be improved and only offered to re-profile as from my building and references I find the drop to look more like a dorsal fin. I could be looking at the wrong Mako though. To be fair if you have official documents then that's more than I have to offer, I can contribute other than sharing my method for B&M drops. (Which I think looks fairly accurate). You said it best though that the game has its limitations. I also believe your reference photo is skewed by the angle. I found this one which is more direct on showing what I mean by dorsal shape- yours just seems too flat for a little too long: www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/e323xx/been_too_long_since_weve_had_candymonium_pics/ I honestly appreciate you having this discussion with me as you are my favorite PlanCo player and hope one day I can re-profile that drop for you or make KZbin videos myself and collab. (I'm sure I am getting off to a great start to even dream of that)

[@wimberkers6901]

Cool that it is all realistic, but the themes are all a bit bland, is that on purpose? Maybe you could rip of the Efteling next as it is a park that has more personality😆

[@Nerdchacho]

Yes, it is intentional. What I currently do takes 60 hours a week - on top of an actual career. I'm not willing to invest any more time in anything more elaborate.

[@toby7366]

I love your videos and content, just a bit of criticism: I don’t think that looks like a proper hypercoaster drop. It should be ever so slightly curving throughout the whole way down, not straight track. Great coaster tho

[@Nerdchacho]

Noted... but as I've said to numerous others in the comments section, it is profiled EXACTLY to Candymonium with a steeper drop. I can't change how the game handles that. It is what it is.

[@vibechilli3680]

Instead of ‘Nerdchacho’ how about El chacho

[@Nerdchacho]

Oh man, I totally missed that opportunity!

[@smilealways7767]

I agree with you on cedar point but i still need you to take the big one back...

[@Nerdchacho]

NEVEEEEEEEER!!! haha

[@smilealways7767]

@@Nerdchacho NOOOOOOO😭😭

[@Nerdchacho]

@@smilealways7767 haha, that's right, I said what I said 🙈🤣

[@smilealways7767]

@@Nerdchacho but you took icon back when you built a MACK multi launch. Just build an arrow dynamics hyper😅😅

[@Nerdchacho]

@@smilealways7767 you'd better hope the cedar point style Park wins the vote then... 🤣

[@finesse5820]

Chacho your interior tours would be much easier to film if you used the WASD keys to move in freelook mode (or whatever it's called when you press T) 😂

[@Nerdchacho]

I use arrow keys, not wsad and mix between free look and not all the time. I'd have hoped it would be obvious when I swap between them..

[@finesse5820]

@@Nerdchacho ah alright, I do notice when you turn, I just see you dragging yourself down hallways with the mouse and it looks cumbersome, but if it works it works!

[@Nerdchacho]

@@finesse5820 I tend to use the arrows more than the mouse, especially for side to side movements.. but sometimes dragging is quicker than the keys and gives you more control, so I mix it up..

[@adamr6686]

Fuck I’ve caught up with all ur episodes 😭 we need ep12 asap

[@Nerdchacho]

haha, working on it.. I promise! :D

[@nathanevans7092]

Dive on in.. 'Sea' you next time.. 👀

[@Nerdchacho]

🤔

[@bryan13318]

Another great (ultra realistic) park but i miss something on the realistic side on all your Parks. With the pathing you keep.disabled People in your mind with slopes instead of stairs. But with the rides i miss and disabled entrance

[@Nerdchacho]

It is a good point.. Most of the rides that have the ability to host disabled guests have them built in as a standard, I just don't point them out in the video. So this one, for example, as a ramp to the exit... I think they all have disabled access from memory. There are some coasters that aren't suitable for wheelchair users (B&M Inverts for example), so as a result there is no legal requirement for ramps because guests must be able to traverse a certain number of steps as part of the T&C of riding. Typically, the disabled access is the ride exit. The only one that might be questionable is the Mack launch because that is raised.. it has a ramp to the exit, but it's a pretty intense and long one..

[@doctorPuffin]

Hi

[@Holey2662]

H-hooooow???

[@ThrillsofColdplay]

you should fix it a little bit its ok though

[@willemgorman6134]

When will there be a Mack spinner because you promised us one

[@Nerdchacho]

Given that since that promise it has been realised that you can't do the launch without the mod and the request was specifically for the xtreme spinner, there probably won't be one.. sadly..

[@willemgorman6134]

@@Nerdchacho what about normal spinner

[@Nerdchacho]

@@willemgorman6134 Not for this park. The park has to stop somewhere.

[@Nerdchacho]

@@WT-Band I'm not stopping the park, I'm working on it for 2 solid weeks, but I need 2 weeks for the next bit.. and it so happens that LTC is also my ep next week, so fits in nicely..

[@toast3633]

hello