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[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Folks, this is the man that upgrades speakers by changing the crossover network. So, if you buy a Kef Q150 for $299 a pair, You can modify it with $300 kit from GR research. You now have paid $600. Hopefully, you will see what $600 buys for a pair of speakers in comparison to this mod kit. Also, modding your speaker crossover network will likely void the warranty. Now, GR research will show you charts and graphs and tests for his mod kits. Funny, we don't see ANY before/after data for his $250 power cord!

[@allansh828]

only $250? That’s cheap af.

[@ramencurry6672]

I have a super massive thick power cable. It looks awesome and built like a tank. I only paid about $65 for it. I don’t think it improves the sound but I use it for the decoration appearance and audiophile theater

[@qua7771]

Unfortunately, the rest of the house wiring, and power company cable is ordinary utility wire.

[@dannyrichie9743]

The change in power cables can make significant improvements in imaging, sound stage layering, image separation, and image depth. How would you like to see those things measured and charted?

[@qua7771]

@@dannyrichie9743 I know those things exist, but not because of a power cable. Not everything can be charted regardless. Honestly, the claims in this video caused me to disregard the rest of is work here. I'm done.

[@danielwander605]

The flat earth metaphor really bugs me. It doesn’t make any sense. A flat earther would say I don’t care about the science or the evidence, I only believe what my eyes can see. Someone who believes power cables make a difference in sound quality would say I don’t care that there is no measurable proof, I believe what my ears tell me. So the power cable people would be the flat earthers, right? I don’t know if the cables do make a difference or not, but the metaphor, shirt and snarky attitude kinda bug me since it doesn’t seem to make any sense. Maybe I’m thinking about it wrong.

[@johndavidson6433]

Its just immature name calling to try to silence his critics.

[@djlee688]

Alienated most of the subscribers in the first 30 seconds, not a smart move regardless of the product.

[@danielwander605]

@@djlee688 Thats a great point.

[@dannyrichie9743]

I understand your confusion. You have to know the people on the side that this targets. The flat earth guys we are referring to do no science and refuse to consider anything other than what they believe. They measure no difference in basic measurements so they theorize that there will be no audible difference, but then never test their theory.

[@johndavidson6433]

@@dannyrichie9743 that is such a load of crap! I have tested cables many time and the results have always been the same, no difference. This a simple case of the emperor's new clothes!

[@joeking6948]

Good copper right gauge that's about all you need!

[@dannyrichie9743]

If you really don't care what it sounds like and just want it to play, then yeah.

[@geniekoko]

Ask Blue Jeans cables why they don’t even sell power cables? Why? Because it doesn’t flipping matter! Snake oil.

[@dannyrichie9743]

If your system is a small pair of speakers against a flat wall with no room treatment power by a 20 year old home theater receiver, then you're right. It won't matter. Snake oil though? Not at all.

[@veroman007]

you never asked them anything . quit making up shit. like saying mcdonalds doesnt sell hot dogs because they are worthless.

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@MrsZambezi I do, and there are multiple ways.

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@MrsZambezi No, it can and does affect the sound quality, and this video is produced because are customers are asking for it.

[@dakken74]

What he's saying about Power Cables is true! I swapped out the OEM Power Cable on my LCD tv for high end After market one, and now the picture on my LCD looks like an OLED! The blacks are blacker the colors are deeper and more vibrant. The best part is I can now watch 3D content with out needing those stupid glasses! The picture just seems to hover right in front of the screen! Of course I have no measurements or quantifiable way of proving it,,,,,,but just take my word for it,,,ITS AMAZING. The best 3 grand I ever spent.

[@jcl410]

A couple of questions: What changes occur in the power cord during the "burn-in" phase? Exactly how does the filtering work?

[@VC-zk1kv]

I sooo luv these "infomercials"..... 😂😂

[@VC-zk1kv]

I'd buy it for the price, if my gf. liked it!!! 🤣🤣

[@queputaleche]

insert meme of Spiderman pointing at itself. You are clearly the flatearther

[@dannyrichie9743]

The flat earth guys we are referring to do no science and refuse to consider anything other than what they believe. They measure no difference in basic measurements so they theorize that there will be no audible difference, but then never test their theory.

[@queputaleche]

@@dannyrichie9743 exactly like you do. You want people to believe that there is a difference, but only by trusting their ears. (But never in a double-blind test, performed by a third party.) The only clear thing here is that you sell $ 250 cables that must cost you $ 30. You don't do science either

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@queputaleche Well, you are wrong on all accounts. I have mentioned many times that is no "double blind" comparisons of power cables as the person doing the switching always knows which is which. They have to see it to do their job. Secondly, it makes no difference if they see the cables or not. They are not the ones listening. As for blind comparisons with third parties, we've done that a LOT. Soon will do some on video for you guys. And our margins on cables are not near that high. One end cost more than that. We have about half as much in them as we sell them for. By comparison most speakers retail for four to five times cost to produce.

[@queputaleche]

@@dannyrichie9743 ha ha, of course. Totally impossible for someone to change the cables while others are listening, who would have thought. Don't waste time making a video that doesn't meet testing standards. You have to show that people are able to identify each cable beyond statistical probability, over and over again. And someone recognized in the audio community has to be present to check that there is no cheating. Where can we see the LOT of blind comparisons you made?

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@queputaleche First of all, I don't chet, nor would I need to. The differences are clear.

[@koprcord5338]

I've found the best way to lower the noise floor is to just eliminate the power cord all together. Dead silent, don't know why nobody has thought of that.

[@wsturner]

Totally agree....Batteries are the way to go!

[@TofumanFC3S]

Your findings are scientifically sound. Great job!

[@20somthingrealestate]

I prefer to run mine off a sodium reactor. Dedicated and clean.

[@wsturner]

@@20somthingrealestate Flux Capacitors also work well. They are essentially a battery.

[@20somthingrealestate]

@@wsturner "essentially" i don't think that's going to cut it. Especially with lack of filtering. Perhaps braid them together in series.

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

This video is the practical proof that there's far higher margin on selling cables than speakers. Kudos to Danny's economic basis.

[@VC-zk1kv]

Here Here!!!...... Long live the "Cheap Audioman!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kevinmcgrath3591]

yes, not doing Danny's credibility any good. where are his usual technical graphs and measurements?

[@frostycanada6404]

I’m still waiting on Danny’s blind cable demo that he promised months ago.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

@@kevinmcgrath3591 Why use science, when you can dupe the gullible with a bag of adjectives.

[@MSRWorkshop]

So 200hrs to burn in to get it to sound good. That’s 25 days of listening for 8hrs a day to sound how there intended, then I can convince myself if they sound good or not 🤦‍♂️

[@dannyrichie9743]

You won't need any convincing. It is usually pretty obvious.

[@shanerorko8076]

If the filtration of the sine wave is important why not just make an adjustable filter with a few switches and dials? You could then adjust the filtration on the AC line in to where it sounds great.

[@Johnny-Too-Bad]

Still waiting for the speaker cable A/B/X test you said you'd do. :)

[@dannyrichie9743]

It's coming.

[@LouGuido]

@@dannyrichie9743 By now you've definitely realized you can't reliably hear audible differences in cables/components/power cords. Stop pretending you're ever going to make a real video about actual controlled blind listening tests. The only way you'd ever pass one is if you gamed it. An actual video that would pass muster, when you're really cheating, must be difficult to film. No wonder it's taking so long..

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@LouGuido Nope, what I say is 100% the truth. Come on over and I'll let you be the listener.

[@Larwiz]

Exactly! You beat me to it!

[@Larwiz]

@@dannyrichie9743 So what is taking you so long? This is what we want to see, yet you keep putting out all these other videos? What does it take? What do you need to get this done? Can you let this be your NEXT video?

[@rapfreak7797]

Genuine question, your basic argument is that the power cabling offers filtering which leads to benefits to the audio component? Could this not be handled internally by the manufacturer by adding additional filtering to the AC mains?

[@dannyrichie9743]

It is not handled by the gear.

[@TofumanFC3S]

It is, every component is filtered lol

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

See Corcom line filters. Very common!

[@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel]

Your transformer is a filter. they just try to sell you expensive plastic and metals.

[@srmitch9260]

He’s selling power cables at ridiculous prices and making a lot of money, why would he want to tell the truth? People simply believe without any data so why would be bother? Just another snake oil salesman

[@Rob1972Gem]

I’ve just been reading a lot of the comments and it is made me laugh so much with the amount of people which have asked for proof of how different the cable makes don’t people learn anything audiophiles don’t have to produce proof they just tell you you have to believe them audio quest of made me buy a business out of that

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Sure. Audiophools use undefined magic words like "soundstage" and "audio image". Alway a bag of infinite fluff & puff adjectives.

[@srmitch9260]

Exactly. It’s all fairy dust.

[@PlaybackMansion]

Oh dear lord. Here comes Amir's Army

[@ddcstudios1]

I saw the thumbnail and title of the video and immediately thought wow can't wait to read the comments. My system isn't good enough to benefit from audio jewelry. So I won't add an opinion.

[@freeradical431]

At what point does an "audiophile" stop worrying about the quality of their gear, sit down and enjoy listening to the music? I never hear audiophiles talk about music! lol. If I was in prison Im sure that an antique Victor Gramophone would be a sweet heavenly sound. And yes I agree, power cables can make a huge difference, the source of power, even more so.

[@kentbeynon6245]

I agree you can drive yourself crazy trying to get better and better. You're absolutely right a Victor Gramophone would be sweet in the right circumstances.

[@freeradical431]

@@kentbeynon6245 Yeah theres no end in the quest for perfect sound. Right now I am working on developing a line source using 4 6x9s per speaker. Sounds crazy I know but let me tell you that the imaging and sound stage is well, quite amazing. .

[@60zeller]

That’s the hobby part of it. If you work on cars. Your always looking for improvements. It’s never really done.

[@JasonLeaman]

If people are stupid enough to pay all this money for power cables, let them. at the end of the year when they are broke and bought useless stuff, well then it's "I told you so, it wouldn't help" Looks like Danny is jumping on board to sell cables now, because all the profits in it :(

[@adissabovic]

Audiophiles don't love the music, they love sound.

[@flashhog01]

If two cables have identical bass, mid and high response but one does 3 dimensional layering of instruments and the other doesn't, how would we measure that difference? What would we measure and do we have the capability to measure it?

[@dannyrichie9743]

Good question.

[@johndavidson6433]

The same way you measure anything that can be influenced by placebo effect, Documented Double Blind Testing by a Third Party! The scientific way!

[@flashhog01]

@@johndavidson6433 That does not answer my question, what exactly do we measure? What are the units it is measured in? It appears we do not yet possess an instrument or technology to conduct such readings. Double blind tests are not relevant to my question.

[@johndavidson6433]

@@flashhog01 Then neither is any other scientific test. Go with your gut! Buy $10 cables but pay $250 for them!. Your ego will tell you they must sound better!

[@flashhog01]

@@johndavidson6433 thank you for the nonsensical reply.

[@thxepsilon8292]

Again with the nonsense and the insults? Man, this channel is really bipolar when it comes to good advice...

[@dannyrichie9743]

This is the no nonsense chanel, an no insult intended. All in good fun.

[@LouGuido]

Electronics have power supplies with filtering. You really believe this cable is going to do anything? Why do none of your videos ever have any data or evidence to backup your claims? What about all the wire between the power station and your house? Only the last 6ft matter? What about the internal wiring in the electronics? If it isn't obvious to everyone else, this is BS.

[@dannyrichie9743]

I understand educational levels in this field are limited, but I will help you. I don't speak of what I believe. I speak of what I know. My claims have been backed up hundreds of times. And only the last six feet? Yes, that last six feet will help filter out the noise picked up by the thousands of feet of cable that preceded it. The only BS around here comes from the nay sayers.

[@johndavidson6433]

@@dannyrichie9743 if this thing works as a filter can you give us the values of the inductive and capacitive reactance at the nee of the filter? Is it a high pass, low pass, band pass..etc? What roll off does it have...1st, 2nd, 3rd,...etc?

[@donstockman2531]

Has anyone on this thread actually heard on of these cables? I bought one for those of you guys who want to know. Here's what I found. I'm not an engineer so I'm not interested in your technical mumbo jumbo. What I do have is an excellent set of ears. That's all I need to know if something is an improvement or not. Just listen to it people. That's all you have to do. Danny's power cable was the last to be adde in line of 6 upgraded power cables. His was by far the most expensive. And by far, the best value for the money. This is true for any product spent on any hi fi gear. These are the areas it improved. Tightened bass and helped eliminate a nasty null I had around 70hz Greatly improved Soundstage by adding depth, width, sharpening center image. That allowed me decrease toe in which opened up the soundstage even more to an unimaginable level Greatly lowered noise. Increasing detail. I'm more than happy to demo the differences to anyone interested. I'm in the phoenix area.

[@dannyrichie9743]

Thanks Don, I hear this type of feedback from almost every customer, but thanks for posting here for the nay sayers to read.

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@MrsZambezi They do have an effect on performance and the real nitwits can be told over and over and still never get it.

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@MrsZambezi Ha, ha, ha. Real, and easy to demonstrate.

[@donstockman2531]

Trevor c. Thanks for letting me know I've been wasting money. I'm so glad you figured out cables make no difference for me from your home with your system. I think I'll go home and burn all my cables. Sorry... I meant to say finish burning them in. Don't be a hater.

[@Gary_M]

You're high.

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

Today I learnt that physics and engineering are mere belief systems.

[@veroman007]

i assume you have a high end system in a treated space and decades of experience critically listening to various high end pieces.... in which case why would you not order one of these and demo it. its a free trial more or less. in the meantime i look forward you seeing your you tube videos on engineering and physics as applied to stereo music reproduction. all the best comrade

[@zergbong]

@@veroman007 what you need to do is change the wiring of your house my guy, because up to the point of the electrical outlet the wiring is not "audiophile". Two meters of fat cable does nothing. 200 hours to burn in cables is some kind of scientology practice.

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

@@veroman007 Today I also learnt that a boardof fiber wool and electromechanical transducers kept in a room begin to defy entire electrical engineering principles 🙏🏼

[@veroman007]

smh.

[@TofumanFC3S]

@@veroman007 Free trial only to be shamed in a video for not having equipment impressive enough to let the fairy dust through these magic cables 🤣

[@joshua43214]

You can test this yourself people for less than $25.00. Go to the hardware store and buy some 12ga or 14ga stranded machine wire. Get some Chinese gold or rhodium plated plugs off Ebay. Put them in listen. I was terribly embarrassed to find I could hear the difference even in my Denon AVR. It was the flagship at the time (forget the model), and I do have very good speakers and room treatment.

[@puciohenzap891]

Yes but the people who call themselves 'scientists' are sometimes ignorants and won't accept that there is more to a certain topic than their own research. It's the same as the sect believing SINAD tells you how gear will sound, it will not - not at all. In terms of cables there are 3 groups: 1. People who hear the difference 2. People who don't want to hear the difference 3. People who blatantly lie cables/DACs or whatever than can measure at the same SINAD don't make a difference, advise cheap cables while having spent a fortune themselves on cables and other hi end gear but they will never mention it on the internet, for God knows what reason. Met a few of these already.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

You are dismissed. Your stories don't count. Evidence does.

[@mysock351C]

Uh oh! Here we go again! What about us who have tonally accurate and quiet systems powered by switch-mode power supplies? My audio amplifiers don't suffer from noise, they inflict it on anything else that happens to be within a few inches of the power supply board. Will that help here, too?

[@qua7771]

It's best to run silver shielded cable all the way to your power companies power plant.

[@ProffAndy]

The funniest bit was when he said that the expensive cable had so much filtering it softened the sound. 🤣

[@dannyrichie9743]

Yep, it truncates the wave form nand eats into dynamics.

[@ProffAndy]

@@dannyrichie9743 I assume you mean the mains waveform. How does it do that ? Have you measured the truncation, or is the difference too small to measure ?

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@ProffAndy Start filtering everything above 60Hz back to ground and eventually you start catching some of that current in the range you are really wanting to pass through.

[@ProffAndy]

@@dannyrichie9743 So you want to pass some current above 60hz. Ok. So what is this current above 60hz ? Where does it come from and how does it improve the sound quality of what you hear ?

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@ProffAndy You really don't get this at all do you? There is a lot more than a 60Hz waveform on the lines, and removing it will make quite an improvement.

[@blipco5]

"Not an expensive cord. Starts at $249." Bwahahahaha. 😂😂😂

[@dannyrichie9743]

Welcome to high end audio. $249 is consider a budget priced cable.

[@vegaslimoguy2376]

@@dannyrichie9743 I'm starting to realize that most of these commenters aren't even real high end audiophiles, but just a bunch of tirekickers and talkers! As a true highend audiophile, that is a great price point for that cord and more than a reasonable price as well. Great job Danny!

[@johndavidson6433]

If I replace my ethernet 18 to 22 gauge 4 twisted pair cable with4 pair of 12 gauge solid twisted pair cable will it improve my internet experience?

[@Darrylizer1]

Yes, all KZbin videos will be ad free and all the comments will be faster!

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Well, your bit rate will increase to support the width of the Soundstage.

[@scottmackey4182]

I run my power cable to my power conditioner first, then feed each audio component from there. I hope that’s the best start.

[@donstockman2531]

Scott, When I started upgrading cables I did the same thing. I later moved it to my source component at the advice of who knows (don't remeber who). It has a larger gain in performance on my DAC or avr vs the A/C power conditioner or power regenerator or power amp. Enjoy..

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Yeah, that's a good start in draining your bank account. You need to enclose your power conditioning gear in cryogenic tank. That's another trip to the bank.

[@srmitch9260]

Adding a conditioner will only add impedance. The filters usually only remove frequencies which aren’t even in audible band. Pointless.

[@curioustraveler1390]

I used to think power cables didn't matter. Then I tried it and it made a difference but worse, made things like tambourines sound tinny. I gave up for a long time but tried it again from a different company. The difference was very satisfying, everything sounded more relaxed and grounded, and tambourines sounded rounder and more fleshed out. It's easy to sink into and enjoy the music. Lesson learned to keep trying if initial attempts fail. With a money back guarantee, if course.

[@jordillach3222]

Why stopping at the stretch of cables that connects the outlets in our walls to the audio system? Why not replace the ordinary cables in our walls too? After all, they form a continuity with the system's power cable from the outlet on. And what about the cables connecting our home to the city network? And what about the cables in the city network and the transformers at the local substation...

[@greenbeginner3353]

Some have made mods in the spirit of what you’re saying. I’ve heard of a guy who had a separate run to the power pole for a separate circuit for his sound system. Someone out there is probably experimenting with solar panels and battery banks have already been employed by some. Maybe the day will come when an audiophile cable company will manufacture cables for these purposes and which meet construction codes (state requirements met, of course).

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Soundstage and audio image are affected by nuclear, wind, solar, coal, gas...

[@oduckett]

Cool opinion - I haven't tried dedicated hi-fi power cables so I'm not jumping on either bandwagon yet. But I'm sceptical that no one has published side by side measurements, favoring the hi-fi cables, that I can find. You're obviously making and selling these things, and also have a fairly well equipped lab. Do you have any frequency response graphs, feedback analysis, or any other data that supports these opinions? I'm also curious what difference the 200 hour burn in does to performance.

[@MrTanaris]

That's probably not possible. The differences can usually not be measured, just heard. And only by people with special listening skills. Oh, and for some reason, never in a proper scientific double-blind setup. It also seems that many people quickly develops those skills simply by throwing lots of dollars on a power cable, or by selling them...

[@Echo_III]

What measurements do you want boy? :D He says "the soundstage just opened up". That's your measurement hahaha. Yes, I know, it's pathetic BS for reach guys.

[@donstockman2531]

@@MrTanaris i'm in the process of buring in new interconnects. I run them for15-20 daily on very very low volume. When I come home and listen to the same 4 songs in the same order. I am hearing new things daily. It's not that the sound quality is getting better by leaps and bounds. It's that the realism is what is growing by leaps and bounds. I have very reasonably priced speakers. I hear great gains in attack and decay. Hearing the difference of how hard a drummer strikes a drum is a complete and different expereience. Not to mention you hear the noice the drumstick makes as it hits a tymphany, then you hear the resonation of the drum shell and the way it reacts to where the drummer hit it on the skin. Then comes the most beautifull thing of all. the seaminly magical prescence of harmonics and decay.. Nothing better than that. Even with cheap speakers. But you'll still need good cables.

[@MrTanaris]

@@donstockman2531 so let's assume for a short while that there actually is a change in the sound. What makes you so sure that it's the cables that are changing and not the speakers and/or internal components in the rest of your equipment? And exactly what is changing, physically?

[@donstockman2531]

​@@MrTanaris To answer your first question. When I plug in a new badass cable, it instantly sounds better. When I switch back to the old cable, I get that same feeling you had when you realized your last girlfriend wasn't as good looking as you remember. It's just not something you want to go back to. Second answer-if your halfway smart, you only make one change at a time. Let it burn in. Then listen, listen to the same songs every single day. After a few months time it's time for the next change. When you say "Physically" i think you mean what is changing physically with my system? Set up is the most important thing that makes your get-up sound awesome. A cheap system set up very well in a good to great room is responsible for 80% of how your system will sound. Speaker location in paramount! For those of you who are unable or just refuse to try to pull your speakers at least 3 feet from the wall, never buy upgraded cables, you're wasting your money. Spend your money on better speakers. once you find the best location for your speakers. it's all about room treatments. Proper speaker toe is completely undercompletely emphasized. My most inportant thing is proper toe in. Then there's absorbtion, difussion, first reflections, second reflections, absorb or difuse? the more items on that list you properly address, the better you music will sound. For cheap ppl like me, I want value and comparatively speaking, Danny's products are a bargain. To me, the cables are the icing on the cake. I currently have about twice as much money into cables, as i do into my current speakers. The return on your speaker investment is soley dependent on how well you set them up. You need to have all of the parts working together to hear what Danny speaks of. Once done even sorta decent, you'll be rewarded with a kinda sorta 3D holographic audio image that will knock your socks off. Then, after you refine your set up abilities, clean up your bass, learn about room modes and reflections. You again be rewarded with another jump towerd realism when you can actually here seperation and distance between everything in music. Once you get to the point and you've been sucessful in bass management, you will actually hear way more bass than you can imagine. Clean, powerful, non house rattling bass that will enrich the way you breathe. Once you've done that, and invested even a few bucks and cheap power cables on amazon, When you spend even a little more on another cable, you will be able to get a sense of what the room the music was recorded in sounds and feels like. After that you get better imaging and a sense of movement of the sound to the point that it will rival the best multi channel speaker system you can imagine. Yes... it's that good. If you done a good job in your room you will hear things appear 200 feet to the left and righ of you, 100 beyound the wall your speakers rest against, or 60 feet hehind you. All from just two speakers. The next step is when you learn cables make a massive difference in sound, imaging, soundstage, imersion, and just a very large factor of overall performance. Once you've spent more than a months lunch money budget (and have a decent DAC) Turn off the lights! The next reward is pure magic. it's easily possible to get to the point that once the music starts. you forget your listening to a recording because they sound 100% human. As in not a recording. You'll feel like the only person in the crowd at a live performance. You're sitting six feet from the stage. But from the comfort of home (or your moms basement)The complete removal of walls, floors, & ceilings. Basically all physical boundries are absent. It's just you and the band. They're actually in the room with you. Playing live just for you. turn off the lights! I Guess the best i can suggest to you non believers is to find someone who's will to let you hear what they have. I'm sure people whould line up to demo their stuff. If you're even too lazy to do that? get some headphones, a line DAC and call it a day. Enjoy

[@hellbound1897]

You told us all you would do a blind test of the cables and publish it here as some sort of proof months ago. Time to shut up or show us that Blind test. This is just talk. Affraid of something?

[@wedsg]

you're a really nice guy and well versed in designing filters,, but the snake oil bs like this makes me wanna unsubscribe

[@dannyrichie9743]

What I am sharing with you guys about cables is as real as anything else I have shared with you. No BS here.

[@Feliciano12v]

I've always wondered... If companies sell products that require Ex amount of time for Burn in, Why don't such companies burn in products and then sell?

[@mcplutt]

It will probably add something to the price.

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@mcplutt You are correct.

[@60zeller]

Some do, Or say they do

[@TofumanFC3S]

The “burn-in” purely exists to give you more time to convince yourself you hear a difference and make it less likely for you return the magical cables

[@andys844]

In the case of it being a legitimate reason for burn in it usually comes down to cost benefit. Specialist mechanical systems will often require a certain routine to bed them in, and ensure that parts are correctly lubricated or at their correct tolerance. It might add a lot of cost to fully do that at the factory and shipping might disturb it anyway. In the case of more consumer products a manufacture may want to spend the extra expense doing it at the factory because they know consumers don't read instructions and might end up with a higher failure rate in the long term. In the case of speaker cables and the like, the burn in period is almost certainly nonsense. The burn in effect is because people get used to the sound or convince themselves it sounds a certain way. Humans are incredibly good at adjusting their perceptions.

[@Darrylizer1]

Considering that my gear is all vintage and has no removable power cords, this video really doesn't apply, not that the comments aren't hugely entertaining. The solution for me is to get a power conditioner such as made by Furman, PS Audio or other manufacturer. I should think that a power conditioner's benefits would outweigh a cable's in any application except price. Getting both might be overkill but what the heck? Audio jewelry has its place too.

[@dannyrichie9743]

I have both and it takes both to get where I need to be in my system.

[@Darrylizer1]

@@dannyrichie9743 There you go. I like your channel btw though I wish you'd do some more on your own speaker designs, intriguing stuff.

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@Darrylizer1 Thanks, there is more in the works.

[@MriRudi]

Ok so all that matters is the final 1 meter of power cable to my equipment? What about the 30 meters of generic twin n earth running through the walls of my house, or the 15 miles to my nearest power station, shielded speaker cables in a electrically noisy environment I agree with, but youre making bold claims with these power cables that are straight up lies, In time your greed will tarnish your reputation.

[@dannyrichie9743]

The power cable is not the last meter it is the first. Where else would you want to place a power conditioner or power filter? Would you put it at the power station where it is generated? You water also passes through miles of plumbing before it reaches your house. Then right before it comes out of your sink it passes through a filter to clean it up. This works the same way. And I never lie. Everything I say is 100% the truth, and that is why I am so trusted. There is also nothing greedy about offering a great product at a great price. My customers are loving these things too, btw.

[@kevinmcgrath3591]

why not post a Wav audio file (downloadable) of your demo system, with and without the power chord, a decent microphone and a few tracks - the difference should be readily apparent. we dont necessarily want to hear audio 'quality' just the 'difference' with the same microphone etc. even better would be binaural mics and then headphone playback

[@CharlesCartierMurdoch]

And pre burn in VS non burn in. 200 hours required apparently. If it makes a difference on the dac performance you should be able to record this difference quite easily. USB cables make a difference? We should be able to record those differences.. I’ve done those tests and I guess my earth is flat

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

Because of the uncertainty principle. The moment you devise an experiment to measure the difference a cable makes, the entire effect disappears. A point mere engineers and scientists can't grasp.

[@SSStroger]

How does a wav file show sound stage, imaging and layering?

[@kevinmcgrath3591]

@@SSStroger it doesnt, the two wav files will just show the difference if any

[@kevinmcgrath3591]

@@giriprasadkotte9876 thats because there was no difference, right ?

[@vladjovanovic7207]

Can you please explain THE ACTUAL physics behind the cable burn-in process, please? And how do you determine the number of hours needed to complete the process? Keep up good work!

[@dannyrichie9743]

It is the dielectric material that is forming, and different dielectric materials require different amounts of time. We have learned from experience how long certain materials take to settle in.

[@gratmatassa5432]

@@dannyrichie9743 hi is there any reason why GR Research cannot undertake the burn in before selling to the customer? gives the cables the best possible conditions of working straight out the box.

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@gratmatassa5432 There is no way we could do that. We have hundreds of these in stock. We can't possibly plug in all of those cables and run electricity through them for a week for each one.

[@MassimoTava]

Are power cables a high margin product compare to your other products?

[@dannyrichie9743]

No, they are about the same as everything else we offer.

[@veroman007]

look at all the experts here who refuse to demo this but ntl are positive its worthless. do they use bare small gage wire for speaker connex too?

[@TofumanFC3S]

Nope, we use adequate gauge wire for our speakers. Just as we use adequate wire for everything and every product in our lives, like everyone else

[@veroman007]

@@TofumanFC3S well at least you admit there is a point at which it will sound worse.

[@TofumanFC3S]

@@veroman007 Absolutely. You’ll get to a point where you’re asking so much of your conductors that you’ll lack power to, in this case, your amp. In return you’ll get a nice heating wire until it shorts ofc. Luckily manufacturers build in redundancy when it comes to wire gauge to account for all kinds of situations like variables in production etc.

[@veroman007]

@@TofumanFC3S and you acknowledge that wires act as rf antennae and removing this can improve the electrical signal... thus all of the research done on this subject involving crossing the wires at angles to eliminate such noise.

[@TofumanFC3S]

@@veroman007 Hardly any new information… What are you on about? It’s why we’ve had filtering in any audio component since forever. You think you and Danny are the first to learn about noise and the theoretical effects of cable management? You want to put your trust in a $275,- cable but not into your near infinitely more complex hi-fi equipment that is designed and objectively certified to deal with all those situations?

[@marshallhughes4514]

How tightly do these cables fit on the device it is powering? I have seen examples where the upgraded cables are so heavy and the connection to the device are not tight enough and they sag.

[@dannyrichie9743]

They are tight.

[@terbo2000]

I just hope that someday my system is good enough and I'm rich enough to consider upgrading my power cord.

[@rothgartheviking858]

My issues is Room Treatments. So after you spend boat loads of money on components speakers. You need a good room. I would love GR research to help us with affordable room treatments.

[@DesertILI]

@@rothgartheviking858 You can get good DIY results cheap for them. Check out the channel Life of Bliss. He has a video from about 2 years ago on making movie poster panels. You can do the same thing but with a plain or pattern cloth too.

[@rothgartheviking858]

@@DesertILI Thanks. I appreciate it . I will give this a watch.

[@DesertILI]

@@rothgartheviking858 No problem. I've done a bunch of them and they've helped my room. Actually about to order some new prints of posters to redo some of them.

[@mcplutt]

I bought white power cords. They filter out white noise.

[@zackpetrovic3029]

Like the B-24 bomber it is heavy and stiff, also designated the "Liberator"

[@davidelledge3553]

It is not stiff.

[@rickgiannone6304]

$400 for an extension cord??? For us regular hard working folk??? Danny, wtf are you smoking? Dude, you need a reality check!

[@puciohenzap891]

Not everyone watching is too poor for audio hobby.

[@dannyrichie9743]

I think that the guys out there comparing them to cables well into the 4 figure range are delighted that I handed them another bargain.

[@rickgiannone6304]

@@dannyrichie9743 Danny, please stop talking. What planet are you on? I’m not spending 3 figures on a power cord , let alone 4 figures. And once again, why engage the flat earth morons?

[@PlaybackMansion]

@@rickgiannone6304 Why are you taking it personally? Do you blow up Versace's KZbin about how much their ties cost? This cord is not designed for your Phillips/Magnavox mini system

[@rickgiannone6304]

@@PlaybackMansion Not taking it personally. Stating the fact that this item may appeal to one f$@king percent of Danny's viewers. In other words... it's virtually irrelevant!

[@FloricaFlorin]

A version with the EU plug would be really nice.

[@dannyrichie9743]

If I can find a good one to use that is reasonable.

[@srmitch9260]

A version which comes with ANY sort of quantifiable data would be oh so good…

[@boborman5537]

Sorry cables ( do not burn in)

[@dannyrichie9743]

Actually they do, and with some it is quite dramatic.

[@jprkzoo3463]

Don't discount a dedicated breaker and line for your system as well; everything plugged into a circuit on a breaker is an antenna and puts noise into it. The less to filter out to begin with, the better.

[@epi2045]

Instead of paying $350-450 for these power cables, I would do exactly what you say. Dedicated breaker and power line - would be one of the best upgrade to any system. Lost some respect for the channel…

[@AllboroLCD]

Im a cable believer! Still, my system is too "budget" however to fully take advantage of hi-grade power cables. Shit... half my gear has the power cable hard wired to the transformer!

[@michaeln5660]

'Just because you're an expert doesn't mean you know anything! Oh, wait...' ;)

[@TofumanFC3S]

Where’s the measurements you’re known for, Danny?

[@dannyrichie9743]

How would you like them to be measured?

[@TofumanFC3S]

You know very well how to use a microphone, Danny. Take your finest measuring system/speaker combination, measure them with those awful, horrible regular power cables you’ve been using all these years and then do the same measurements with your new magical cables. I’ll be sitting ready for any differences beyond normal testing variables

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@TofumanFC3S What makes you think that differences in the noise floor will show up in a measurement of amplitude? The noise levels are well below the output levels of the speaker as measured in a frequency response, but are clearly audible.

[@fredw61]

I'm surprised that the measurements/ double blind people and so concerned about cables. Don't they all have the best system and are in audio bliss because they bought the best measuring components? It is almost as bad as the guy who buys the most expensive components and wonders why it does not sound as good as the next guys system that cost peanuts.

[@TofumanFC3S]

@@dannyrichie9743 Exactly. Nice of you to finally accept reality

[@ralfm3710]

What happens from a physical-chemical point of view during the burn-in period..?

[@mjp5546]

I like most of your videos buddy but this one is dodgy. Where's the data?

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

Doesn't exist and won't

[@mjp5546]

@@giriprasadkotte9876 The "flat earthers" (I guess that's me) were shown the earth was round using facts and data. Maybe I am wrong and cables make a difference but I have never seen the facts and data to back that up. I would love to improve my listening experience anyway I can so teach us all with test results and data Danny! Now I am off to unwad my panties darn it all....

[@cyclistman6358]

Everyone has it wrong!! The Earth is not round or flat, it's cubed shaped. So there you have it.

[@jabezhane]

"I have a $100,000 system..I plugged this cable in and the noise vanished!" Okay so you are saying your $100k system sounded really bad and noisy to begin with? If so you have bigger problems than mains cables! Think back to all those hi-fi magazine reviewers that would every month try a new gadget and gizmo that would give a quantum leap in improvement to their already amazing system. That's 12 quantum leaps in improvement a year, every year on a top flight system. Never once did I see an article that said "Hmmm did nothing!" Fancy that.

[@dennisbohner6876]

Dan, 30-day money-back guarantee is meaningless when you say also that it takes 200 hours to burn in properly. Sloppy math leads me to think that you exceeded the workweek to pull that full testing in a month.

[@bergennorway]

200/24 = 8,33 This means you have more than 20 days to try the cables after «burn-in». 20 days is enough for me to make up my mind, either if it is speakers, amplifiers or cables.

[@johndavidson6433]

@@bergennorway You have 200 hours of listening time in 30 days? You must be retired or independently wealthy! Surely you don't think the idle time that the amp is not in operation counts as burn in?

[@9mmmike642]

I don’t think you need to be actively listening during burn in. Unless you think that the cable knows when you are listening.

[@mcplutt]

@@johndavidson6433 You just connect your electric heater or something. Quicker burn-in with higher wattage. Best done in wintertime.

[@mcplutt]

@@johndavidson6433 You just connect your electric heater or something. Quicker burn-in with higher wattage. Best done in wintertime.

[@jdlech]

Not gonna criticize. I'm sure you get enough of that already. If you're going to talk about power cables, then you should talk about house wiring and wiring inside each unit of your system. Then we need to talk about power supplies, what they do and their limitations. I've seen even super high end equipment run power in parallel within millimeters of the signal path - ready to pick up the emf of every transient. Any electrical engineer will tell you that every transient produces an emf - especially in the thin foil of a circuit board. Blocking emf at the back of a rack system is not snake oil. But because it's such a small part of the whole that it's not the nirvana one hopes it would be. It's equally important, if not more important, to use really good quality XLR patch cables. And manufacturers have to do a much better job at isolating the signal path, and quit trying to achieve maximum occupation of every millimeter of the circuit board. I am disappointed though. I was hoping to see a cross section of the cable - at least on paper. Or at least something on its construction. This is basically a 7:49 advertisement. Don't get me wrong, you need to sell stuff. I get it. But still...

[@jdlech]

The easiest and probably cheapest thing you can do for your system is to run a second set of nomex wire through a grounded, conductive conduit from your circuit breaker box to your stereo plugs just like a commercial installation. This will cut down on EMF and cut the resistance of your house wiring in half for the least amount of cost. You could add more wiring, but never achieve the "bang for the buck" as you would with the first doubling. And it is equally important that the conduit be properly grounded for proper shielding. Not that you need it much more than 15 feet away from your system and speaker wires. But the more conduit, the merrier. Second would be to bypass the wall plug altogether and wire the power cable directly to the nomex through a hole in the wall, and directly couple the conduit directly to the power cable shielding for a more continuous shielding right to the back of the system. None of this addresses the EMF problems present inside the components. For that, you need to open each unit up and address the problems as you find them. And there's often nothing you can do.

[@roberthart9886]

and while all that is 100% true, they STILL improve the music

[@roberthart9886]

@@edd2771 SERIOUSLY. DID YOU JUST COME OUT OF A COMA?

[@roberthart9886]

@@edd2771 I save it for idiots. Welcome to that club

[@roberthart9886]

@@edd2771 In your mind you're presenting a rational argument. In the many thousands of minds who have long used superior PCs to crap belden type, supplied by most manufacturers, you are an IDIOT

[@jimmymantha6872]

Power cables and interconnects make a huge difference it’s part of a total package as far as I’m concerned.

[@eeyorebill04]

Omg Danny I love that tshirt. You need to sell those!

[@mjot2360]

Do you use a cable cooker prior to shipping cables out?

[@dannyrichie9743]

No.

[@tvfreak7777]

Burnin? Interesting, I only know the burnout when using too much current. Much more effective as burnout nornally happene much quiker than you want😂

[@charlesclifton1006]

So Danny, you mentioned that you plugged your cable into an Uber-Bus. What exactly is that? I'll email you this question as well.

[@dilbyjones]

I hear basically as long as it's as good as hospital grade. That's the baseline. I mean that's where I'm at. I've experienced everything this man is saying 100% . His stuff in terms of value prop is the best I've found. If all cables were the same WHY do they not just trust any cable to the sensitive machines in the ER? Those cables MUST meet certain standards.

[@johndavidson6433]

I would suspect hospital rated has more to do with quality control than quality.

[@djlee688]

@@johndavidson6433 Actually it's around ensuring solid grounding and cable physical abuse resistance. Hospital environments have a lot of sensitive instruments and flammable gasses, a faulty ground is a mucher higher safety hazard than the average home or business.

[@johndavidson6433]

@@djlee688 All these are required for residential environments, nothing any different. Like a said, more about control than standards

[@djlee688]

@@johndavidson6433 Actually very different per NEC Article 517. My company has a Division that designs surgical suites for hospitals, so we deal a lot in this area. Of course quality is a given in this type of critical environment, but the Article places specific requirements around grounding (double path), and redundant supply of power. My point is hospital grade electrical components do not apply here, it's more about reliability and safety beyond residential & commercial.

[@johndavidson6433]

@@djlee688 I have worked in the electrical and electronic field for 40 years. Grounding , bonding and ampacity requirements are also required in residential. But that is all beside the point as you are trying to move the discussion from power cable to electrical installation requirements. The power cable used in medical equipment doesn't have some magical weave or shielding that makes them operate differently than a home use cable. Power cables need to provide the required ampacity and make solid interface connections to the receptacles without any appreciable power loss. That's no different than in your home. Do you think hospitals are paying $250 for a 2 meter 16 gauge power cable? You can buy one from Monoprice for $10.

[@johnwilliamson467]

I must agree it a question of cost and value not is there a difference. To say it can not effect is to fail to understand the real worlds.

[@richardurban2269]

20 years ago, I had a $100,000 home system. (At retail) I also did my own car systems. Both home and car were close to the best I have ever heard, my car was for sure the best car system I had heard. Note: I have listened too cars that won competitions for best sound. I have listened too music as my hobby since I was 12. I say all of this, too indicate that I do have a relatively good idea of how great systems can sound. Now I have a $700.00 system. Note $300.00 of it, is for the power cord from Danny. This $700.00 system is the best sound I have ever heard. Let me qualify that by also saying, current recordings are a big reason for the better sound. I am quite sure my $100,000 system would likely win when given the same good quality recordings. THE POWER CABLE MADE A DIFFERENCE. I live in an apartment, I listen in the living room which is part of the kitchen. My apartment is extremely quiet, just 24 db. According to my sound meter, 24 db is at the threshold of hearing! Think of the quietest place you’ve ever been, it’s like that. The refrigerator is 30 feet away, and it is very quiet and I never noticed it, running or not, while I listened to my system, until I added the power cable. Now, I won’t listen to my system if the refrigerator is running, because the refrigerator annoys me too much! Ever since I put the new power cable in my system, I have to turn the refrigerator down a few degrees 3-4 hours before a listening session, so that I can turn the temperature up (Back to normal) which shuts the unit down for several hours. Obviously my system had some noise in it with my original power cable (Standard cable) which prevented me from noticing the refrigerator running. I can hear your frustration already, your saying to yourself, “Tell us about this $700.00 system!” This won’t take long. I have a pair of powered speakers. Kantos YU6’s ($400.00) Playing 5 ft away from the wall, 8 ft apart, and 8 feet from me. My speakers and my listening position are essentially an equal lateral triangle in the middle of the room. The speakers are at ear level, toed in slightly, but not directly at me. I also have sound treatment behind me. I listen too the “Hi-End Analog Audio” channel on KZbin using the optical output from my basic TV. Try the video “Best Voice 41 - Flying Voice” No sub running because I am in an apartment. I figured I would try a new noise filtering power cable because I only needed one for powered speakers. Some day I would like to head to Texas to hear Danny’s system. I did NOT notice any change in my system as to sound staging or clarity. Perhaps that is yet to come after burn in? Maybe? Thanks Danny, the power cable filtered the sound beautifully! With the refrigerator on my listening position is at 34 db. Hope this helps some of you on the fence when it comes to purchasing a power cord filter. Good luck.

[@frederf69]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@labalo5]

Show them Danny! Though I don’t have your cord but in my system I noticed IMMEDIATELY a huge difference in SQ when I swapped my cords out.

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

That's the problem. He can't.

[@labalo5]

@@giriprasadkotte9876 he doesn’t need to. Even so, one would get their money back if their systems wasn’t up to par.

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

@@labalo5 Burden of proof lies with the one making the claim, irrespective of who agrees or disagrees with the person. Popular acceptance is not scientific evidence.

[@labalo5]

@@giriprasadkotte9876 vote with your wallet. That’s all you have to do.

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

@@labalo5 Point of contention is the claim of science, which can't be decided by vote by wallet.

[@bshah4831]

In the UK I find the plug fuse makes a big difference. A better power cable even with my second systems Power Node 2i made a difference.

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

The best ever upgrade to my audio system was when I replaced the turbine on the nearby hydroelectric project. It literally lifted the curtains from the sound stage and I could perceive the phase differences.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Really, just in the UK. Please run tests in The Baltic States.

[@DesmondKarani]

Lol, it would be really great if backed up your claims with data.

[@dannyrichie9743]

Done hundreds of times and more coming.

[@DesmondKarani]

@@dannyrichie9743 you mean the time you used inaudible frequencies (RF) to compare cables? I'm still waiting for the blind test you promised your audience

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@DesmondKarani It's coming....

[@xXRudrraXx]

stupid question ... every think about making E.U. power cables ? or is not economically viable ?

[@ufarkingicehole]

Seems like you get a 100% money back guarantee.... If you are the least bit curious, why not try it yourself and see. If it doesn't work, send it back. Why would people complain?

[@ufarkingicehole]

@@pickyaudiophile you tried these cables?

[@pickyaudiophile]

​@@ufarkingicehole Of course not. How could I know then and became mains cable sceptic? What I actually did to get some proof was holding my stock cable fully drawn-out with both hands and walked it twice alongside the borders of my yard at full moon. After the treatment I gave it a full week(!) to settle down. Few days later I plugged it back in and to my disappointment there wasn't any change perceivable.

[@ufarkingicehole]

@@pickyaudiophile I have used upgraded wire and absolutely heard a difference. Its a similar argument with speaker wire. You can 100% tell a difference between different speaker cables. I know this because as a skeptic I actually tried it. The fact so many people automatically write things off they have never tried themselves is silly. Will this wire make a difference in your system?? I don't know. One thing I can tell you is swapping factory cables in my system with quality cables did make a difference in my system

[@pickyaudiophile]

@@ufarkingicehole My take was on power cables exclusively. I would agree with you on speaker cables and analog interconnects.

[@CirclesandSounds]

Wish you would also make ends for something like a Mac Mini ;)

[@raidendigital1003]

I use a Dayton DTA-1 amp (powered by AA's) to power my cheap speakers in an abandoned house's untreated bedroom... so I don't think I would notice a difference from adding this power cable. (Watch my Deco Home Speaker review)

[@johnholmes912]

you deny physics

[@dannyrichie9743]

No, I embrace it. It is the nay sayers (or flat earthers) that deny it.

[@Yooyangs]

I've got the Holo Audio May dac Kitsune edition... absolutely love it!!

[@60zeller]

I don't know. Still holding out for the B25

[@sveneisenhauer1]

Are the Flat Earthers somehow related to the ‘Flat Cablers’…? 🤓

[@jwester7009]

Interesting. I'm a little bit bothered about you calling it a filter. In my experience what makes the best sound is when the cable has the lowest possible capacitance. The more a cable act as a filter the more you remove dynamic range. Also in my experience a power cable makes the most difference between the Mains in the wall and the power distribution unit

[@cbts001a4]

What cablecapacitance should influence an amplifier, it runs with DC

[@jwester7009]

@@cbts001a4 What meant was inductance. My mistake

[@ProffAndy]

@@jwester7009 The capacitance/inductance/resistance of a correctly rated mains cable feeding a well designed source component is not going to have any effect on the audio signal on the output of the device.

[@jwester7009]

@@ProffAndy That's your claim. Others claim the opposite. In the end the only way to figure this out is by doing some direct listening comparisons in practice before making any conclusion

[@ProffAndy]

@@jwester7009 It's my claim on my understanding of electronic theory and how circuitry works. The claim that a mains cable can alter the signal to any perceptible level at the output of a well designed piece of audio equipment is similar to claiming that a butterfly flapping it's wings can alter the weather. I'm no meteorologist, but I'll claim that it doesn't.

[@Lauren080508]

Objective scientific measurements have shown power cables do not have meaningful impact in sound quality.

[@dannyrichie9743]

Measurements do not show sound quality. Measurements show data that must be interpreted. Subjective comparisons confirm power cables can have a significant impact on sound quality.

[@Peter_Jenner]

@@dannyrichie9743 No they have an influence on your perception because you are listening for differences all of a sudden. If you seek you shall find but it's not REAL!

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

@@dannyrichie9743 OH, since measurements do not show sound quality, we can dismiss your charts and graphs on your crossover network products.

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@NeverTalkToCops1 Those show accuracy.

[@RealHIFIHelp]

I came for the panties joke.

[@TheRealAudioDidact]

I put the B24 on my SoundAware D300Ref Digital Transport and removed the AudioQuest NRG-Z3 power cable. The difference, while subtle, was clearly audible. The was more "roundness" in the high frequencies and mids seemed to have an 'air' and even a pleasant 'buzz' which might have been higher order harmonics resolving. I really like this cable and am going to order several more.

[@InCerTo_AntiFragile]

Any possibility to make a schuko?

[@Peter_Jenner]

The really sad thing here is you are actually the flat earther in this discussion Danny and you know better. Please stop trying to sell this snake oil. John Dunlavy would be turning in his grave.

[@dannyrichie9743]

Ha, ha, ha.... You have it completely backwards. I know all about John Dunlavy. I spent all day with him at his facility once. He made a lot of listening comparisons as well. He even showed me how he made various listening comparisons.

[@Peter_Jenner]

@@dannyrichie9743 Yes I know you did.

[@raphofthehills4405]

@@dannyrichie9743 Funny, bc John Dunlavy was very vocal against "cable nonsense" for audio applications. Am confused as to how mentioning him help your cable claims ?

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@raphofthehills4405 Ha, John was working on his own cable design that featured a solid cable in an X pattern. He showed me his prototype and told me all about how it worked and what it did.

[@raphofthehills4405]

@@dannyrichie9743 Oh my, where to start... (1) First, John Dunlavy famously said that although he was selling speaker cables, they did NOT sound any different than regular cables with a large enough gauge (2) He never claimed that A/C cables made any audible difference. (3) He was a die hard scientist / engineer, who rejected hearing claims from so called "golden ears" people, and provided measurement proof to all his claims (4) He famously organised blind experiments where "golden ears" were hearing differences btwn 3 cables, when no cable was actually changed during the whole test... Read up John Dunlavy's post on "cable nonsense". Now, what do you disagree with in his arguments ? He was a stellar engineer, and a honest businessman. His contributions in radar and radio technologies were used in the moon landing, submarine comm, etc. He also knew how to actually measure cable charateristics unlike your "can't measure but it's there, buy from me" message. Using his name to support bogus A/C cable claims would be most dishonest.

[@kdomster9141]

Power Cables makes a clearly heard difference on a quality and resolving system. Not so much on a boombox or cheap AVR receiver and low resolving systems...

[@kdomster9141]

@@MrsZambezi Not on a boom box or generic quality systems ....

[@kdomster9141]

@@MrsZambezi it is clear that it is making significant difference , have heard it too many times... your millage may vary .

[@kdomster9141]

@@MrsZambezi No need for it , it is proven on many occasions ...

[@kdomster9141]

@@MrsZambezi Wow , amazing how you trust your own expertise. I guess you will feel right at home on Audio Science Power of measurements forum. 😉

[@kdomster9141]

@@MrsZambezi you clearly do not take all factors into consideration. You have to know that all factors are not always known to you so if you hear clear improvement in sound quality you got to trust your ears.

[@Taffy84]

Where's the ABX test you said you would do?

[@dannyrichie9743]

We've done a ton of them, and will be filming some soon.

[@TofumanFC3S]

Which independent party will verify the testing methods, subject selection and reporting of findings?

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@TofumanFC3S You can come be that independent party if you want.

[@TofumanFC3S]

@@dannyrichie9743 This shows again how you just don’t get it. I have in no way the credentials to perform such a task. You don’t even know who you’ve just invited to verify your testing procedures. This is not how you deal with making accurate advertising of the features and performance of your product. You don’t seem to be interested in finding out what your product can do for customers or IF it can do anything for them, you seem more concerned about having likeminded followers who take your word as gospel If you were running a bigger company, you’d get sued to Middle Earth and back or where-ever these magic cables come from, for selling products with wildly outlandish claims and ZERO certification or data.

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@TofumanFC3S You don't need a high level of credentials to receive an education. I have people over for listening comparisons all the time. Some think like you when they get here. They don't think like you when they leave. And I already know what our power cables do for our customers. I get feedback from them all the time, and a lot of re-orders. And don't take my word for it at all. Find out for yourself. Learn to listen.

[@TofumanFC3S]

“It’s not expensive, only $2,49” Ah well, at least it’s not more expensive than a regular cable 🤣 I like how when people send it back because they concluded what measurements already show and your immediate response is to shame their equipment and rooms when you are the one who has always been pushing budget equipment

[@LarsonChristopher]

Your system is only as good as your weakest link. If you have cheap gear.... you get what you pay for.

[@TofumanFC3S]

@@LarsonChristopher Danny in literally in the business of cheap gear. What are you on about?

[@dannyrichie9743]

I have only had a couple of guys with budget level systems send them back. I have had more returns from people with super expensive power cables in their system. They really liked our cables but kept what they had. And there is no one best power cable. The right balance has to be found for each system, and various power cables offer various levels of filtering.

[@TofumanFC3S]

@@dannyrichie9743 “And there is no best power cable…” You’re right there. Because they all do in essence and by design the exact same thing.

[@dannyrichie9743]

@@TofumanFC3S No, they are not at all the same or even close. Some are in fact antennas and some are filters. That's it in a nutshell.

[@blasterman789]

Danny got selling bleach to senior citizens to combat Covid, so he's selling power cables.

[@TEDD24K]

Hello Danny, What floor standing speaker is that behind you? Thank you!

[@dannyrichie9743]

NX-Treme model.

[@TEDD24K]

@@dannyrichie9743 Thanks Danny for the Info. It looks like an attractive speaker. I'll check it out and see if its performance matches its looks.

[@____trazluz____9804]

while you guys freak out about diminishing returns and things that no one would notice in a blind test, theres a dude with a jbl bluetooth speaker having the fun of his life , you have to ask yourself "when its enough ? ". just have fun because : never will be a sound system good enough , never , accept that and have fun . why will never exist a sound system good enough ? because our ears are the limiting factor , unless you can transmit the sound direct to your brain

[@MartinHAndersen]

HI what's the uber bus?

[@dannyrichie9743]

A power conditioner.

[@MrBonger88]

They look really well built. Any plans on selling a 20 amp version?

[@dannyrichie9743]

Not at the moment.

[@G3rain1]

lol What do you have that's pulling 20 amps?

[@MrBonger88]

@@G3rain1 A crown I-Tech 5000hd for my subs and a Bryston bit-20 are both wired for 20 amp. All of my outlets for my stereo are dedicated 20 amp lines. The I-tech will trip a 15 amp breaker

[@Billyscatpack]

Lol don't listen to the conspiracy theorist who think there is romex running from the breaker to the outlet you plug this into.

[@ford1546]

You need to tell how they manages to reduce noise and how the type of power cables tend to be made. without facts and explanation then there are many who do not believe in that type of power cable. you say a lot of good things about them but the most important thing you do not say! why? you can not only say that they reduce noise but not how

[@dannyrichie9743]

I did multiple videos showing how.

[@chefbink61]

Every little bit helps once you start to getting good gear. I have been building audio gear for sometime now, and all my audio gear from pre to speakers (yes I have a set of your speakers and they're wonderful) I have built. It wasn't until then when I really started to hear the difference. I never thought that braded speaker cables would make a difference but when you have speakers that are good enough to take the advantage of what braded cables can bring you will hear it. So yeah every little bit helps.

[@EnpuerKT]

Home Depot sells 12ga Husky power cables for 18 bucks.

[@PlaybackMansion]

Burger King sells large french fries for $2.39

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Yep, each lower gauge (bigger cable diameter) corresponds to a widening of the Soundstage.

[@dansiegrist1728]

The best demo I've heard of the difference power cables make was at RMAF in 2004. Joe Kubala brought a couple of Emotion power cables with him and hooked them up in our room and it transformed the sound. Incredible. Naysayers really haven't heard good power cables or they haven't had an effective demonstration. Please be open-minded and hear the difference.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

See, "transformed the sound" is not measurable. You must have controlled double blind studies, have a control group, and repeat the experiment. OH wait, I see it now, the scientific unit you are using are named Audiophools.

[@jaromirdrobnak8991]

Bowers&Wilkins 706s2 please!!!

[@00penguin]

Why can you not sell them pre burnt in? It seems like an awful lot of faith needs to be put into the assumption that they're going to get better and better. By the time you reach your 200 hours of burn in you would have run the system six or more hours a day almost every day for 30 days. I know the burn in service would add to the cost but then we could make a decision with plenty of time to meet the return time criteria.

[@TofumanFC3S]

Well that would defeat the whole purpose of the “burn-in”, wouldn’t it? ;-)

[@00penguin]

Are you saying the burn in period Is there to make sure you get stuck with a product?

[@00penguin]

@@TofumanFC3S many companies sell their products pre" burnt in", Zu audio is an example.

[@TofumanFC3S]

@@00penguin Mainly because people who are very open to suggestion will imagine the “improvement” immediately. Those who are a bit more skeptical however can be tricked into being happy with their snake oil purchase by being told the improvements are tiny and take a long time time to develop. People are less likely to find out they’ve been scammed Pre-burned in is just companies keeping customers happy. You don’t really think they do that, do you? They can’t say it’s it BS, because audiofools want all the BS. So the companies embrace it all and make nice profits

[@Rob1972Gem]

I live in the UK and on my system i use the standard power cords that they came with and i have NO hum or his i can turn my AMP up to full volume with no music playing and there NO sound NO hum NO his just nice clean signal but just keep in mind all medium to high equipment is earthed in the UK and it sound like we have cleaner power coming into our homes on the 240 volts at 50 Hz because i hear NO problems so please tell me how a bigger power cable can increase what is already a clean signal is it going to better than 100% because that's just SNAKE OIL . i can see were they might by useful if you live a country or part of a country were the power is dirty and has power spicks or dips but when every thing works 100% well you can't just replace the power cord and get better than 100%

[@greenbeginner3353]

Best I can say is to check with audiophiles, audio salesmen, reviewers and cable manufacturers there in the UK. However, on another point mentioned in your comment, I don’t think your test method is going to reveal the differences spoken of in this video.

[@dannyrichie9743]

Whether it nums or not is just telling you if you have a ground loop or not in most cases. The simple fact is that you have noise on your lines, and removing it results in better sound.

[@hrvojekant9415]

Great review ! Yes ...and propper order ...where to use it .

[@yuckysamson]

Also please ask Ron to help you level the tripod. 😘