B777 Dual Engine Failure After Takeoff

B777 Dual Engine Failure After Takeoff - No Relight - Return to Land

[@jackg2630]

I saw a really funny clip a while ago where they were doing tests like this and secretly for fun - both the pilot and co-pilot were planning to have an engine failure right after takeoff. They were just messing around but they didn’t know they both were planning it, so they are all quiet and about to takeoff and simoulataneuoisly they both shut offs an engine, and look at eachother like wait did you do one also ? And the cockpit burst out in laughter and they crash immediately haha. One if the funniest sim clips I’ve ever seen but I can’t find it anywhere on KZbin. I hope they didn’t delete it cuz it was honestly one of the funniest laughs ive ever heard

[@zeeman531]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJqZgH5jqNergM0

[@mattiafailla2474]

@@zeeman531 we have the hero

[@traphousedummy1949]

Anyone finds it comment plz

[@kikiss9743]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJqZgH5jqNergM0 There you go boys

[@lalruatfela3394]

Here you go - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJqZgH5jqNergM0

[@norbert.kiszka]

Incredibly good work. Landing in touchdown zone is not easy while maintain glide speed in same time.

[@t.g.777]

Realistic and professional. Verry good!

[@Mark-gq4qs]

Brilliant, it's almost like they knew the double fail was coming! 😉

[@outwiththem]

Normal to Turnback to airport if both engines fail from 2,300 agl like here.. Sully instead from 3000 feet agl, kept going away from airport trying to re-start the broken engines, then went to the freezy hudson river instead. Not a hero for us experienced pilots..

[@sq8409]

Bruh they shut down the engine knowingly

[@outwiththem]

@@sq8409 - So what??. Even for real you should know that if you lose both engines, from over 2,000 agl, you should turn to airport first, then try to start the engines as you approach it. Not head away and try to start them going away.. That was huge pilot error there.. 1- Aviate, 2-navigate (to airport), 3-then communicate what you are doing. With some wind most jets that climbed well can go back to airport if over 2,000' agl and if pilot dont freak out and start making girly pilot errors..

[@sq8409]

@@outwiththem lol I'm not even replying to you and you're apparently getting mad at me 🤔

[@outwiththem]

@@sq8409 ok, have a nice one. Im a CFI ..

[@pennyspringdoor]

The lesson is, Captain. Under the right conditions pertaining to height above the ground, distance from a suitable airport to land at, wind conditions, and (yes) even the aircraft weight, a successful landing is likely to be achieved if the aircraft is handled correctly. Now try it in Cat 3 approach conditions.

[@glideslopRM]

That was a very good approach to landing!

[@CFITOMAHAWK]

FANTASTIC!! Of course jetliners can glide. Just a matter of keeping the right speed.

[@Juno_Beach]

engine failure makes it kind of hard to maintain the right speed

[@HAL-xy3om]

Nice work!

[@englette]

Calmly turned toward the airport immediately after failure. No checking of any instruments or issues. No checklist procedures. It's almost like they knew exactly what would happen in this simulation. Hrmmm...

[@bananachicken9769]

like they're going back to pick up the milk

[@ecomotive6158]

It's possible that the pilots are in an early stage of training where they're practicing specific procedures over and over. The surprise failures dont come until a later stage of training. Also, they're probably calm because they're in a simulator and not in a real emergency.

[@CFITOMAHAWK]

So you will try to start the engines at that low altitide instead of The Turnback to Opposite.. What about if they dont start?? Dummy.. Just Turnback and glide it back.. Geeee. That was the huge mistake of Captain Sully.. But he didnt know that turn and kept going forward to New Jersey instead of turning to runway 13 on his left side..

[@bodystomp5302]

@@CFITOMAHAWK when you lose engine power on takeoff, do not attempt to return to the airfield. It's one of the basic precepts of pilot training.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@bodystomp5302 Bulshit. Only cowards say that.. I taught that maneuver a lot during my CFI years in the 1990's. You have to know when to and when not too.. Learn it well. Many turnbacks are done every month in USa and due no accident, no published. Only the badly done ones are published all over.. Done bad by cowards that didnt want to learn them before. I also have 2 done after partial power engine failed. One from 300 agl. Cessna 150..

[@mikebravo3527]

Didn't know that thing was such a good glider...

[@pennymartin3821]

Well done, great job

[@brucevodka]

Great work.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

You have to have the Question Mark altitude BEFORE you do THE QUESTION MARK TURNBACK.. They had the 2,500 agl needed for the weight..

[@john-zf1yb]

What happens if your below 2,500

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@john-zf1yb Look for another place to land. Dont try to turnback. Maybe wont make it. Unless say, 15-20 knots wind pushing you there. On sim i do from 2,000 feet agl, but i know a lot about Turnbacks..

[@mattserednicki9994]

Ive watched your training video simulating an engine failure. You say you're the best but if you notice, in this case, both engines were killed BEFORE turning back to the runway. In you case, you simulated an engine failure and you killed it once you were straight to the runway and thats a whole different situation. Also the engine wasnt killed, it was on idle and you still have a little thrust there. Keep training in your cessna before telling an airliner what to do with his aircraft.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@mattserednicki9994 That was not me. Some of my videos on my playlist are partial power fails, not total fail. Jets climb better and faster than any single engine piston, which from say 2,500 let them turnback to opposite at 45 degree bank with some flaps and not stall. See Baltic Aviation double engine fail on A320 from Planas copilot..

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@mattserednicki9994 Which exact video ??

[@studlyhungwell5740]

What airspeed is Best Glide In a fully loaded, Zero thrust, clean 777?

[@JetDriver1111]

just under mach 2..... ;)

[@CFITOMAHAWK]

They were keeping around 180 knots on the Turnback to Opposite i think. After the turn, the tailwind helped get to runway at lower speed than best glide. On a tailwind you can keep a sligthly lower IAS.

[@feetgoaroundfullflapsC]

@@CFITOMAHAWK--Yes, after the Turnback Turn he said keeping 161 knots. With some flaps according to what i hear..

[@scampooo6154]

So called minimum clean speed. It's indicated on The speed tape as green line with "up" sign.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@scampooo6154 so what is the minimum to keep if all flaps up??

[@fernandopratesi5378]

Impressive. Very cool. Why did he adjust the autothrottles on final though? There’s no thrust. Looks like he went to 161kts.

[@alexanderkamerbeek9693]

Because he didn't adjust the autothrottle, he adjusted the speed bug on the pfd to his target speed. The autothrottle is commanded from the bug depending on the flight mode you're in.

[@fernandopratesi5378]

alexander kamerbeek awesome, thanks for explaining that!

[@celestialdream49]

Everyone knows this is a simulation... right?

[@CODMASTA]

you know that simulations SIMULATE the real thing, right? so if this happened in real life, this scenario would be 90% similar

[@norbert.kiszka]

​@@CODMASTA 99% in my opinion.

[@CODMASTA]

@J Pilots train on these simulators for countless hours to prepare them for the real thing. If it's just a game why do you need to pass your simulator exams as part of a real pilot training?

[@glennoc8585]

At what AGL would you fuel dump? The copilot switched to aux battery and APU, pretty confident that's procedure. Did he just bank 180% on VFR for final I must have missed ATC.

[@norbert.kiszka]

Fly, Navigate, Communicate - in that order without any exceptions. When you have to chose between your life or couple minutes talking to ATC - then what you will chose? Pilots cant dump fuel without ATC authorization. In case of any other emergency and both without possibility to dump fuel, most likely pilots will get into holding to burn fuel. Too much american movies.

[@byronhenry6518]

@@norbert.kiszka in an emergency as severe as this we’d just do what we needed to do. It’s an emergency. Pilots have ultimate authority to do whatever we need to do to get the airplane down safely. Authorization, red tape, rules, procedures, all goes out the window when it’s life and death. We have procedures to follow when time permits, but at the end of the day, I want to get home to my family. So does my crew, and all the passengers. You just do what you gotta do to survive.

[@Neutro1337]

@@byronhenry6518 but aren't the rules and procedures here to help in case of emergencies?

[@byronhenry6518]

@@Neutro1337 14 CFR 91.3 “Responsibility and Authority of the Pilot in Command” (a) The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft. (b) In an in-flight emergency requiring immediate action, the pilot in command may deviate from any rule of this part to the extent required to meet that emergency. (c) Each pilot in command who deviates from a rule under paragraph (b) of this section shall, upon the request of the Administrator, send a written report of that deviation to the Administrator. The rules and procedures are absolutely there and should be followed but there’s times where deviations are necessary.

[@deborshikashyap6745]

Make a landing from 2000ft with dual engine failure...please

[@CFITOMAHAWK]

They did it..

[@pmusman]

Thumbs up! :-)

[@CFITOMAHAWK]

Was that dual fail at 2,000 feet agl or not??

[@feetgoaroundfullflapsC]

At 00:09 he wimpily say, 2,000.. Very hard to hear these guys.. They are not English native speakers..

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC - Third world country pilots have to be very good, or they dont last. Bad runways, bad weather reports, bad maintenance, bad older airplanes. Bad pilots dont last on bad places..

[@BLADEMANDAD]

@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC actually they are, i know these guys

[@adamdude]

What's the usage of spinning the speed dial if the engines are off? Is that more for reference?

[@buddymckay3486]

It looks like he did it just by habit and then left it once he realized it wasn't necessary.

[@straightpipediesel]

I believe the 777 will continue to give flight director guidance. So you set the speed dial to best l/d speed and follow flight director pitch commands.

[@dimitridovgan6364]

Things that don't work like this in real life. Prepared crew for this situation doesn't represent realistic behavior.

[@dimitridovgan6364]

@Fast Cara in your dreams

[@monolith1337]

How else are they supposed to train in the correct procedure? - Don't expect that every simulator session is the same for improving the flight crew's response to all engine failure at takeoff. I expect they'll also do training sessions where the failure of the engines is not in any brief, for example.

[@dimitridovgan6364]

@@monolith1337 I was not talking about the training. Of course it should be trained. I was talking about the fact, that you can't expect this performance when you are experiencing this situation in daily ops. Some people might think that this performance is normal, like the pilots don't experience a startle effect at all - doing immediately the right thing and taking immediately the correct decision. And that would be a wrong assumption.

[@user-nw6ck8lb4y]

Высоковато заходил, судя по огням

[@user-iv7pn2yu3y]

В случае отказа всех двигателей так и заходят, иначе не дотянешь

[@nunyerbeeznaz2906]

Like a BRICK,ALICE! LIKE A BRICK !!! All the lift of a window screen !!

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

Shut up, idiot..

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

If you know this Turnback.. Do it, dont be a coward and crash outside the airport. Its not that difficult to do..

[@junrenong8576]

Normally in low altitude, this thing happens suddenly and you need time to understand the situation. Those 'seconds' will contribute to whether you become a hero, or become a zero. Plus, EVEN though its technically possible to return to the airport, as a captain with a split second decision, will you risk everyone on board ONLY or everyone on board + ground? In some places error in your judgement may cause up to thousands of dead, especially in an aircraft loaded with tons of fuel.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@junrenong8576 That is why you need to say aloud the turnback altitude before every take off..

[@johannespetersen2255]

@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 The is no such thing as a "turnback" altitude. Just stay quiet and do us a favour. Thanks

[@johannespetersen2255]

@@junrenong8576 Well said!

[@junrenong8576]

@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 in airlines SOP and ICAO guidelines there aren't any thing called "turn back altitude. It would be deadly if you start turning without understand the severity of the situation.

[@tHomaspiloy]

is that training add after captain sully's ditching in hudson??

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

Yes. This is what he didnt do. Lucky the airplane didnt sink fast.. and those ferry boats were not busy that moment..

[@RicardoRivera1494]

First Thing to do is START THE APU if you dont agree with me call Sully Sullenberg

[@instrumentalbreakdown526]

Maybe your memory items first? ;) Btw, the APU will start automatically during a dual stall engine fail/stall

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

And head to the nearest freezing river, instead of Turning back to Runway 13 on his left 8 o clock position. False hero that almost killed them all. But airplane didnt sink as expected.. A miracle. Lucky guy. Not my hero. Im a CFI...

[@junrenong8576]

@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 well nope, he has made the right call. Stop spreading this kind of bullshit. Also, I rather he killed all passengers on board when crash in to the river, then killing additional people on ground. For a fact for you, pilots that attempted the same thing in the simulator only made successful landing after a few tries. And thats without human reaction time and almost like thdy anticipated when to turn the aircrafy around.

[@junrenong8576]

@@instrumentalbreakdown526 depends on aircraft. I do know that a350 has APU auto start function. But RATs generally will be deployed automatically across most of the aircrafts.

[@JJFHNREHJEDK]

@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 Wow - you ignorant fool. It was proven he couldn't have made it back - read the NTSB report before commenting. Plus when you're in a situation like that, there's no way to judge whether you could make it back in that short time frame - even if he could have the risk was too great to attempt to. He saved everyone. By the way I'm an FO on the 320 - but I'm sure you, as a CFI probably on a shitty cessna, know best. Twat.

[@noxious_nights]

As soon as you hear the "whoop whoop whoop whoop", you know something's wrong...

[@toolnuts7777]

Nah that's just the flight attendant starting her strip show 😋

[@norbert.kiszka]

Too much television. GPWS callouts are information for pilots. Sink rate and pull up are generated very early when plane is sinking at described speed and close to ground (it can be thousands feets). When plane is landing on airport without being in GPWS database, then pilot will hear "pull up" for couple minutes.

[@elevationup8341]

Look Man!!! We're coming back to the city... Let's dump fuel now... 🙂🙂🙂😎😎🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@malcolmpark]

That’s Changi. I know it well.

[@Fromheaven007]

777 gliding like that? Of course I know that hight altitud or speed helps but none of those on video. need to try that.

[@feetgoaroundfullflapsC]

If you have wings, you can glide.. Even the short wing Space Shuttle could glide but at very high speed only.. like 250 knots or so. Below Best Gliding Speed, you drop harder or stall if too slow..

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC All pilots should know how to glide their airplane. Student pilots do it. Even on short wing airplanes like the Piper Colt i learned to glide on in 1969..

[@lb_reflections]

Looks like Changi

[@AlonsoRules]

it is

[@feetgoaroundfullflapsC]

@@AlonsoRules --Where is Changi???

[@AlonsoRules]

Singapore Changi - one of the best airports in the world

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@AlonsoRules only one short runway and it is one of the best?? LOL..

[@mosesmanaka8109]

Is this a simulation exercise?

[@norbert.kiszka]

Yes... Dual engine failure is extremely rare (single engine failure is very rare) but it happens once per couple years. Better to be prepared and do safe emergency landing. This is why we have very accurate (much above 99%) simulators.

[@viperdriver82]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@maurickx]

Perché ci fate perdere tempo con le simulazioni? Dovete dirlo nel titolo quando è così! 😡 Why do you waste our time with simulations? You have to say it in the title when it is!

[@justmoritz]

No way in real life the engines would go off and less than 1 sec. afterwards the pilot will be like “ok, both engine fail”.

[@bazil83]

Exactly what Chesley Sullenberger had to explain to the panel during the NTSB hearing, when they tried to tell him he could have made it back to a runway.

[@markofexcellence5209]

@@bazil83 That never happened lol

[@bazil83]

Did the movie make that bit up?

[@markofexcellence5209]

@@bazil83 Yes, everything else in the movie was pretty accurate though

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@markofexcellence5209 Bullshit. They only talked about not posible to go back to LGA AFTER he went to NJ Hudson River side.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

To jung Rehn ; So you think this video and others on my channel of airliners "there is nothing like a Turnback Altitude". If you dont know those turning glides, dont say others dont either. About The Miracle On The Hudson crash on river, From the 3,000 feet and 200 knots, and only 4 miles from airport, and he heads to a freaking frozen river to kill them all. So he did the easiest for him to do maneuver. The river was a 5 mile long, one mile wide "Runway". Easier to "Land" there. heading to LGA was safer to do, but a bit more difficult due the "smaller place". He chickened out and chosed the easiest kind of approach to do, PERIOD. I taught that maneuver for real on many airplanes and different strong winds, FOR REAL, not just on simulators. No sims in 1993 when i started teaching turbacks to opposite runway. The airplane was the hero that saved him from stalling the airplane with his panic pull at 200 agl, then landed himself and the well made European airplane didnt sink, plust the Weehawken Ferries by luck were empty and ready to pick them up in freezing waters. Luck is not talent, you dummy.

[@tequilasunrise69]

didnt ask

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@tequilasunrise69 He did ask, BUT DELETED HIS STUPID COMMENT. My response is what you see above.

[@tomato-v8x]

yeah, i don’t remember asking for your opinion either.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@tomato-v8x You are senile.. You did ask.

[@ChuongNguyen-up9fy]

Let’s get this video to 777 likes

[@leonardoparigi7502]

Cool, now do it without knowing the incoming dual engine failure and without banking like if you were in a military aircraft...human factor....fun video though...

[@GoLfErgio92]

I don’t see anything wrong with the bank angle tbh. The emergency situation requires it, the aircraft can handle it, why not? Nothing wrong there in my opinion. It’s even not that extreme, around 45 degrees

[@23103a]

@@leonardoparigi7502 'Dont know if the aircraft could handle that bank' Umm, a 45* bank descending turn? That's no more than 1G, AKA level flight. Even a 45* level turn is only 1.4G. Not sure what you're smoking.

[@tomato-v8x]

@@leonardoparigi7502 aircraft engineers and test pilots are literally digging their own graves reading your second comment. OF COURSE they are designed to withstand that amount force (which isn’t that much at all). if those type of turns are concerning to you then i honestly don’t have anything to say to you. do you prefer dying over taking a 45° turn? in a real emergency, as long as you get on the ground safely then that’s all that matters.

[@1EyedRooster]

That bank was perfectly acceptable.

[@leonardoparigi7502]

@@schipholspotters6350 60° is equal to a LF of 2...just for the record. n (LF) = 1/cos(bankangle). What I wanted to clarify btw, is that turn wasn't normal, regular turn; which is ok considering that they were in a emergency, but the big issue here is that there is not human factor in the video...at all.

[@mjmqubesi]

why changing speed to 161?????????? there is no thrust!!!!i

[@SecondHetti]

Blackbird he is simply setting his Landing Speed as a visual reference so that its displayed on his speed band on the PFD.

[@Falle24]

Hey, its for him to have a referencepoint while descenting down. You are more likely to fall under the speed when having a lot of other stuff going on. :)

[@adb012]

TO set the speed bug in the airspeed indicator

[@karlsandin4515]

Best glide speed

[@LegioXXVV]

I doubt any real crew would respond this quickly. This crew were obviously briefed on the nature of the simulated failure and responded instantly. In reality a crew would first have to determine what had happened before responding, which would take time, then working through dual engine failure check-lists.

[@Flyingdumbbells]

absolutely pointless exercise, knew it was coming (he cut the engines himself).

[@Juno_Beach]

yep I would have crashed the simulator

[@jasminlagman9712]

Is this a flight simulator?

[@davidfauler6406]

Yes.

[@paulr2372]

You’re kidding...right?

[@MM-tt7hy]

It's a ship simulator.

[@sayreoutdoors3829]

Yes it's a seriously well built home cockpit for the Boeing 737

[@possiblyadickhead6653]

eject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@noxious_nights]

Only figter jets have eject functions bruh

[@possiblyadickhead6653]

@@noxious_nights I would do the redit wooosh thing if it wasn't so out of date

[@furtif000]

It s not realistic .... decision like : Gear down .... Flaps15.... ... I m sur every pilot with no thrust will think twice before lowering the gear and getting more flaps ... even on final ... things aren’t so easy and 100% sure in real life...

[@assreductionist8575]

LOL you have no idea what you're talking about

[@karlmnz]

umm professional pilots, in a level D Sim, wearing company uniforms is pretty damn realistic tbh

[@outwiththem]

You drop gear and flaps when it looks like you are getting high, not before..

[@jonathanjuillerat9831]

Good thing it was totally flat terrian

[@Giampa_Pol]

Wwwwoooowwwww,

[@pennin16]

You can make a nice automatic landing if you encounter a dual engine failure on a B777 from high altitude. Aim 4000ft, 10Nm, 250kts, engage dual autopilot. 700ft: gear down, flaps 15, then landing flaps around 100ft. Great exercise! ❤ Love this plane 🛬

[@jetdriver747]

Get it properly lined up on the ILS at an appropriate speed, arm the approach mode and this aircraft will do a fully automatic landing with both engines failed. Great aircraft.

[@DoDgEball86]

Easy to do when you only have 30 tonnes of fuel on board... let's see that again with 120 tonnes for a long haul.

[@curtisromanick8146]

Hands up whoever has actually piloted a plane? Take off only does not count for those of you so inclined. Anyone else?????

[@adb012]

Here. So what?

[@feetgoaroundfullflapsC]

@@adb012 --I fly paper planes now.. Retired..

[@willemhaifetz-chen1588]

152 Heavy

[@learntube1048]

Simulator

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

From 2,300 agl?? Great. Now teach Sully this Turnback maneuver instead of he crashing it on river from higher altitude he did.. This is The Probable Turnback done well. and this is a full Question Mark Shaped Turnback of 270 degrees total. Sully only needed about 160 degrees of total turning to be on a high base leg to runway 13 that he used hundreds of times before..

[@lawrencepaolino6589]

fake

[@feetgoaroundfullflapsC]

NO its not. Its a simulator..

[@norbert.kiszka]

Every "fixed wing" aircraft can glide without engines. There are even plane deigned to do gliding for many hours. Same physics laws and same aerodynamics even for paper airplane. Once again: stop spreading misinformation.

[@jetli8703]

Not possible, I don't care what the simulator said.

[@adb012]

And why not possible? Because you've said so or do you have some reasoning behind?

[@InfantTree]

@@adb012 makes a 180 so the wind is completely shit.

[@adb012]

@@InfantTree ... What?

[@InfantTree]

@@adb012 he makes a 180 so the win is going completely the wrong way making landing very hard

[@adb012]

@@InfantTree ... And? So say that they make a tailwind landing. SO what? Yes, they will be going faster over the ground. Perhaps that's the reason why they were high and fast in final, but the runway was very long. Making a tailwind landing is NOT very hard, especially not if you have a ling runway. By the way, do you kn ow if in the simulation there was a wind at all and how strong it was an in what direction?

[@outwiththem]

All pilots know that if you lose both engines, from over 2,000 agl, you should turn to airport first, then try to start the engines as you head to it. Never head away and try to start them going away from airport.. That was a huge pilot error from Sully.. Then on the movie they covered up that if he didnt go to the river initially instead of LGA, he could have glide it to airport. 1- Aviate, 2-navigate (to closest airport), 3-then communicate what you are doing. 4- try to restart, if time and ability for it while heading to airport. With some tailwind when going back, most jets that climbed well can go back to airport if pilot dont freak out and start making girly pilot errors. 2,000 agl?? engines off or fire?? Aviate (lower nose), 2-Navigate to closest airport if over 2,000 agl. Then decide if you can make it or not.

[@junrenong8576]

Hnmmm you forgot one point though. Test pilots attempted several times before actually succeeded on landing the aircraft back in LGA. Yes, after several tries.

[@outwiththem]

@@junrenong8576 Those fails were after going to the hudson river first. The 24 done BEFORE GOING TO THE RIVER were all landed safely at LGA. ALL OF THEM. All the 24 attempts by different pilots, some of them with low hours.. BUT On the movie, they only spoke of the fails to reach LGA or TTB AFTER GOING TO THE RIVER. That is a lie. Nobody in NTSB said they should have tried to reach LGA AFTER going to the river, BUT BEFORE GOING TO THE RIVER. They lied to you. Liberal Media Lies.

[@outwiththem]

@@junrenong8576 Incorrect. Airbus did 24 test with different pilots and ALL OF THEM glided it back even after waiting 17 seconds after hitting birds to turnback to runway 13 approach on sullys 8 o clock position. The ones mentioned in the movie were 17 attempts made AFTER HE WENT TO THE RIVER and too low already. Hollywood lied and fooled you.

[@farree12]

Simulator

[@MooseKicks1066]

yes, clearly.