Babcock Reportedly Out as Blue Jackets Head Coach

This is bonkers, before he even coached a preseason game?
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[@leibmenter2331]

The Blue Jackets never lost a game with Babcock and Jonathan Quick. Two Jackets LEGENDS

[@TheHutchIsOn]

Hilarious and original comment

[@mcfleury]

@@TheHutchIsOnawkward and bot-like reply

[@mvgamer9637]

They never won a game either LOL

[@TheHutchIsOn]

@@mcfleury beep boop I am a robot

[@NotHereForLikes]

@@mcfleurylol it’s always cringe seeing an overused comment. Bet OP thinks he invented it. You’re just a goober who likes stealing comments and farm likes

[@ianbailey8778]

Babcock, resigning with an 0-0-0 record, leaves as a top-3 most winningest coach in Blue Jackets history. Way to go, Mike!

[@Smart-Towel-RG-400]

Most not losing coach

[@jonahrosen6173]

Unironically the tenth winningest coach in blue jackets history

[@user-zm3km9rd5l]

I don't think he would have done much in CBJ, except help them win another 10 games at best. Johnny Hockey is a sellout and devil's rejects. Patrick Laine too is a massive failure on all levels. Both these two players are super lazy and don't really care about winning, they just love collecting fat paychecks.

[@dominiccsogi9037]

We need more people like him

[@pale_saint]

Babcock is a weirdo

[@Jiminy-zg3yq]

at least now babcock has alot of free time to browse photos on his phone

[@samweller96]

Too funny

[@paulciavardoni8069]

😂

[@blackvx]

😂

[@janekstrom8260]

I remember when Babcock got the Leafs job and a retired Swedish player (not Franzen) said 'There are two kinds of people; those who hate Babcock and those who haven't met him... edit. And Now it seems the CBJ has met him...

[@EdwinMaturski-cc9is]

Great quote...

[@calebmauldin1374]

I remember when Patrick Roy resigned the week before the Avalanche started training camp in 2016. Promoted Bednar immediately, but he had to use Roy's staff. He also didn't have enough time to get the team comfortable with the system. And we all know how rough that season was... now it worked out long term, but that first season was ROUGH Best of luck, Columbus. You're gonna need it

[@dicktionary8193]

It’s this RA from spitting chiclets or something? Relax bud, grab the arms on you chair and take a deep one

[@MattW16]

Pascal Vincent is well liked within the organization tho.

[@michaelcopper613]

One more high draft pick wouldn't hurt. If I'm not mistaken that was the year they got Makar!

[@Dutchovenderlinde]

@@michaelcopper613you’re correct!

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

​@@michaelcopper613Philly passed on Makar too. Would be weird if he worked under Torts.

[@scotthuang3022]

Hi Shannon, after this whole situation concludes you should definitely make an explanation and timeline of everything that has happened. Wasn’t following the story initially but am intrigued now and would love a video explanation!

[@christopherrego8706]

Babcock is a genius he’s found a way to have two teams pay him for doing absolutely nothing.

[@ShadyLurker16]

wtf? He resigned, he doesn't get shit lol.

[@christopherrego8706]

My bad

[@dbassman27]

I suspect he got paid to go away. Otherwise, why not just demand to be fired? @@ShadyLurker16

[@jaywhite1241]

Nada!

[@carywhitt]

He is not getting paid from this.

[@fubartotale3389]

This is gonna be a record that's gonna be hard to beat.

[@carywhitt]

Patrick Roy

[@tendergoaltender]

Roy coached for 3 full seasons before calling it quits prior to the '16-'17 campaign@@carywhitt. I would say that is very different.

[@carywhitt]

@@tendergoaltender I’m aware, I was commenting on the nature of the resignation so close to the start of a season. And considering Roy quit right before the season, and the somewhat shady reasons, there are similarities

[@BoyNamedSue4]

I can not wait for the 30 for 30 doc on this in 5 years.

[@TheHeston83]

ESPN still doesnt give a shit about Hockey on socials

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

They're releasing on the Vancouver riots@@TheHeston83

[@texan_2ocho965]

“Boy… that escalated quickly” - Ron Burgandy

[@DizzyDez613]

Brick KILLED a guy!

[@Comics_And_Metal]

LOUD NOISES!!!

[@AlDay-tp7ts]

I love lamp.

[@brianblack2493]

As a CBJ fan I wasn’t happy with signing him in the first place. Bright side… it happened now and not later

[@GeneFever]

Exactly sooner the better, good luck to the Jackets

[@jimbrown5070]

I'm happy! I almost canceled my tickets when Babcock was hired.

[@SourBuddha]

Yeah, at least you didnt get it like us panthers fans with Quenville. We were looking like cup favorites, i think we had like 12 or 13 wins in a row to start the season and then bam. Still had a great season but bruno had no idea what he was doing in the playoffs, he just went with the success he inherited, and didnt know how to change it up when we needed it.

[@JPBelanger]

Yeah, like during a playoff run.

[@gallydex3566]

I can’t say I expected things to end this quickly

[@kurtwpg]

Likewise. When he was hired I really thought he'd make it to mid December.

[@OrlyYaRlyK]

That's what she said.

[@mattreid8768]

That guy is a HR nightmare! He just can't help himself. I agree, that there is way more to the story than what we've been told.

[@rosariocannistraro3561]

I'm a Canes fan but was still hella puzzled by the hire just as I was by Lethbridge hiring Bill "make a fking save " Peters , When people show you who they are again and again eventually these teams have to take the hint .

[@pale_saint]

Babcock is a weirdo

[@Rometiklan]

Even though the official line is Babcock resigned, I suspect this is a firing. Columbus just allowed him to retain some dignity by giving him the opportunity to resign before the axe falls. What were the odds on Babcock being the first coach fired this season? If you picked him, congratulations! Thanks, Shannon.

[@georgeblair3894]

Tell me what happens at your place of employment if your boss says, "Let me see your * personal * phone". HR would be inundated with calls. There's a way, multiple actually, to "get to know your players" that can be done in a professional and upright manner. Asking to see their personal cell phone and pictures contained therein is NOT one of them.

[@trentreimer130]

Yep. Earlier reporting had me confused because it sounded like players were just asked to choose and share photos and I couldn't imagine how anyone found that invasive. Now it almost sounds like Babs expected to look through their phones himself, which is entirely different.

[@PuckDropCards]

Completely agree, if my boss asked me to give them my personal phone so they could rummage through it to get to know me better would not sit well with me at all.

[@justjohnny420]

And let's just say that some players say no, Babcock claims that's okay. But the players that say no could easily become the players Babcock would pick on during the season. Good way to start picking your favorites

[@rosariocannistraro3561]

If it happened with me it wouldn't get to HR , Guys like Babcock/Torts/Peters would be picking up their teeth for the nonsense they pull .

[@jeffreym.8957]

I would ask him to help me try to figure the damn Androidy-thing out. I miss my iPhone.

[@kittychatalot]

My Anniversary is next week and i just told my family yesterday that all i wanted was for Babcock to be fired!

[@aprev039]

Biz is gonna be strutting around like Mr McMahon for the next 45 years

[@michaeljaques77]

Biz Nasty with the suplex from the top rope. OMG! He broke him in two!

[@facetiousmonkey5322]

Bawy Gawd!!That’s… That’s Joel Quenneville’s Music!! 😂😂😂

[@patch8376]

This is something I never could have pictured.

[@Deploracle]

Oh really? Well let's have a look at your phone to see. ;)

[@scuba_steve10]

This is why THG is my go to source for hockey news coverage. While I'm sure he may have his biases as we all do, I have never heard him slander and/or discredit someone solely based off of their credentials/reputation/employer. Whether it be this issue or any other hockey related issue, he stays out of the gossip and waits until all info is presented before reporting on it. Other hockey “journalists” should take notes.

[@AV57]

All this, because in 2003 Jean-Sébastien Giguère made Babcock look like a genius.

[@rodchallis8031]

That'd be funny, going to JS and saying, "This is all your fault."

[@Quarterfold]

Top tier comment

[@revamplife8071]

Pascal Vincent was just named head coach, and Green is an assistant? in jersey

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Yep, there will be another news video later today.

[@jeffa.7618]

This is exactly why you can't trust anything the NHL says is a non-issue. How's that imminently releasing Hockey Canada report coming along, Gary/Daly? 🙄

[@estellegrignon]

Can't believe the league is okay starting training camp without anything. We know suspensions are on the way, but they'll let the players get into training camp anyway

[@dave1927p]

Hockey Canada has gone from one extreme to the next. They will soon be a complete disgrace more concerned about pronouns than hockey.

[@kentnilsson465]

There is so much we dont know. My guess is that some guys found no problem while others found it very invasive. Also, you can get to know a guy without looking at pictures, that how most of us meets new people......Not Babcock

[@DizzyDez613]

A+ comment

[@francoisbouvier7861]

It's called building a relationship. Earning trust. Seems like his inner tyrant was lurking to close the surface. When does torts implode/explode.

[@justjohnny420]

​@francoisbouvier7861 I've built relationships and earned trust with various people/co workers over the years. I haven't ever asked if I can go through their phone to see what kind of person they are.

[@kitfisto1827]

showing people personal photos is perfectly normal when meeting someone

[@franciscomarquez3678]

​@@kitfisto1827Not really, no. Is this sarcasm by the way?

[@lessthanthreemetal]

Shannon went in high pitched with the "Welcome back" that's how you know it's about to get spicy

[@hhclunar2040]

Spittin Chiclets just got an NHL coach fired. 2023 crazy

[@Bum_Hip]

The coach got the coach fired.

[@Spetsnazty]

They also got JR fired. Aka, JR got JR fired. They just gave the outlet.

[@chrisg1556]

Give me a break. Babcock did this to himself.

[@theRealLA2023]

The Jackets need immediate results. Time to hire Patrick Roy!

[@beatsbreaksbricks6566]

I was more surprised that Columbus signed Babcock than I am right now

[@akblades2080]

Feel bad for the blue jackets, as my second favorite team for about 10 years. things are looking up in there rebuild and hope they have the management and can find a good coach to succeed.

[@simonmeikle9037]

I am not a Blue Jackets fan and was surprised when they hired Babcock, but I had not even been aware of his more recent shenanigans so would love a full story video on this whole situation once the bigger picture is made clear

[@simondaughtry4619]

Just remove the "BAB"... and thats what ya got....

[@eg7586]

I'm a jackets fan and at a loss for words. Don't even know what to do with this franchise.

[@hoboville12345]

Room on the Dallas Stars party bus if you want in...

[@RedWings80]

Fantilli is gonna be sick don’t worry

[@AlwayzFresh]

Seattle Kraken are looking like a great team to cheer for

[@johnwagg1538]

Seriously, we’ve endure some crazy times as CBJ fans. It’s starting to get old and stupid

[@UserName-ts3sp]

i cant abandon my hometown team but jesus christ this is embarrassing. everyone needs fired.

[@Creighster]

As a Sabres fan, I’m just glad that it’s no longer our organization that’s in chaos! I’m glad I’m not a Blue Jackets fan right now, but I can certainly relate to how they are feeling!

[@stevenreid2571]

"You've guys have endured enough, we'll take the reins from here." - Me, a blue jackets fan.

[@petermaharajh2088]

Sabers and Canucks came into the league together. Both teams are so similar. They just keep screwing with their fans. CBJ have a long way to go in order to match our chronic disappointments.

[@ghostgrabber]

@@petermaharajh2088 As a Flames fan I love every minute of it

[@TheDevilsInYourDetails]

As a leafs fan I'll never forget Babcock shaming a rookie Marner into writing a list listing who he felt could put more effort among his teammates, in which Babs showed the list to vets like Bozak n Kadri. That is complete villainy

[@jeffreym.8957]

Everyone except you. Go back to beating your dog or yelling at clouds or whatever you do. This is the biggest hockey story in the NHL right now which is why it's being covered by THG and being discussed by thousands of hockey fans. Maybe you can do your own hockey video?

[@derekjf4311]

My first thought was "Oh boy. What did he do now?" 😂

[@kesoyotes]

It was heavily rumored that a lot of the younger players were the ones who were uncomfortable with the whole ordeal. Older players like Jenner may be fine with it because it's something they've gotten used to, but when you've got a new generation of players making up most of the team, you at least got to try and be on the same level as them. Babcock has been coaching for a long time, and even in Toronto it was known that he can be quite out of touch with younger players. Honestly, good on the young guys for saying something. It doesn't matter if it's a work environment or not, never let anyone force you into doing something you're not comfortable with

[@TheFusionmix]

I have a suspicion that asking to see pictures would carry very different weight between established older or married veterans, than it would being directed at young guys. Asking to see family pics, offseason vacations, all that's normal. But with a young guy it could quickly turn into a way to pry into their 'character' and ask invasive questions, maybe to see if they've got pictures/snapchats of any girls they've been with, or if they have pictures with friends where they're drunk, or anything 'incriminating' in his eyes. Could be really really embarrassing. Even if that stuff becomes a distraction for a player, and they pull a Young Seguin midway through the season, you still don't handle it like this. More like a nosy parent who doesn't respect privacy than a coach or mentor figure.

[@dps0610]

He also seemed to have handled things very differently than what Jenner and Johnny made out happened to them.

[@chrisg1556]

Babcock has always been bad with 2 types of players. Older players on their way out like Modano, Spezza etc and young players just coming into the league .

[@chrisg1556]

​@@TheFusionmixasking to see pictures on someone's phone IS NOT NORMAL and is an invasion of ones privacy.

[@popsietnetn]

@@TheFusionmix I've seen seen this topic talked for way too long by so many different people on so different medias and it is YOU, random yt person, who nailed it perfectly. Thanks for that, case close!

[@stevendchu]

We don’t have any words and we know you don’t want to hear them. We understand your anger, your frustration, your sadness. Everything you’re feeling - we get it. This IS the ending we ALL imagined, and certainly the one we wanted. We just didn't know it would come so soon. Thank you for being there the entire preseason.

[@michaelcopper613]

There haven't been any preseason games yet 😹

[@lonelycake4114]

I want babcock to be my life coach Photo albums, airplay, birthdays, everything

[@-EJ-]

Is that an any percent world record

[@peterroberts4415]

Zero games coached...I don't think that record is being beaten

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Hey, he leaves the team undefeated, so there's that.

[@bigjohn08865]

Carlos Beltran had the same record as Mets manager

[@justjohnny420]

​@@TheHockeyGuysure if you're an optimist. He was winless in his entire tenure there

[@angrydalailama6089]

I find it odd that Jarmo isn't taking a hit for this.

[@JoeMagician]

Just gonna guess that Marty Walsh had something to do with this. Him traveling to Columbus personally was a huge red flag, and he's a very serious and effective guy. The NHL isn't used to guys like him, they're used to the boy's club and working things out in back room deals and at the 19th hole. The NHLPA isn't screwing around anymore, and Babcock found out first hand as an example to the rest of the teams.

[@Machine3499]

Feel that's a good sign, finally they have someone looking out and fighting for them. God knows based on the previous issues that were brought up, the NHLPA was more worried about covering for the NHL than the players they represent.

[@tromedl]

Good! Maybe they all now start acting like professionals should!

[@harryharman7593]

Pascal Vincent confirmed as new coach in official CBJ statement.

[@Pikapiplup4]

Enjoy cbj being last

[@Kurt-ci1dk]

Only coach on staff that still has his cell.

[@michaelcopper613]

@@Pikapiplup4 We sure enjoyed it earlier this year!

[@Lonestarr022]

@@Pikapiplup4 they will still be better than Philly's Dumpster fire.

[@dwaynesbgb]

So biz wasn’t lying?? I think it’s wild that the players told biz what was going on, because he’s literally the only person with the balls to put this story out there, and not back down🤯

[@CJMattias]

Nah Babcock probably didn't do anything too crazy, but the media attention was clearly too much drama. These kinda rumours even before the season began.

[@people3865]

​@@CJMattiasThat's what I'm thinking as well. Because of the way Babs left the Leafs, it didn't take much for him to be thrown into the fire again

[@TheHutchIsOn]

Lol “hes the only one with balls”. Trust me, any insider wouldve spilt this story regardless of whether or not they have testicles

[@radovanbabjak7903]

@@CJMattias sure buddy

[@keith96969]

Blue jacket fans pretended like bis was wrong. I hate that fanbase so much.

[@thehighlanders607]

Great to hear!!!!

[@thesilentz4574]

Not a Babcock fan. I was surprised by his CBJ hiring yet still shocked at how quickly hes done with the franchise. i thought, he'd least have some games in before getting the ouster/resignation. But seems like its all for the best imo. Maybe the interim coach will be a great turnout kinda like Brunette with Florida.

[@dougmaclean3660]

Regardless of what went on with Babcock, this is going to poison that dressing room. There are two camps now, will take some time for trust to develope again. Hiring Babcock was a PR mistake from the start. Had to end poorly. He didn't hire himself.

[@user-zb7tg5hi3t]

It’s not going to poison the dressing room. The cancer is gone! No one likes Babcock. Now the locker room has a fresh start. The GM made a big mistake hiring this guy.

[@jarrett.01]

Travis Green is the new associate coach for the Devils, actually, so not necessarily out of work. I know this has been resolved now that Pascal Vincent has been made coach anyway.

[@meatmanmagoo]

With how this went down, kinda obvious none of the players wanted to play under Babcock. I am with the players in this situation, you hear the stuff he pulls and then he gets hired again only to learn basically nothing and over stepping. Babcock really needs to change up his style because its a new league entirely.

[@dps0610]

Whole situation is wild. Makes me wonder what Jenner and Gaudreau knew about the rest of the situation and if they specifically covered anything up in all their interviews.

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

They're from a generation that says whatever happens in the locker room, stays in the locker room. The younger kids have come of age where ex-players are carving out a voice for themselves through avenues like "Spittin' Chiclets" where they feel they can go that's not management, their leadership group, the union, or the traditional media whom they (with good reason) feel will cover up and sweep things under the rug by handling things internally.

[@jaywhite1241]

I think core players were ask very differently about their phone than the rookies... its not being soft... its just calling out creepy closetted behaviours when you have to much power

[@timjansen7694]

To one level or another the Jackets have been a mess from the beginning. I don't know how to turn that around. I am a Columbus guy _and_ a hockey guy and I gave up on the Jackets about 5 years ago. I now watch them with detached interest.

[@rosariocannistraro3561]

As a lifelong Whalers and Canes fan I feel your pain bro lol , Eventually there's light at the end of the tunnel .

[@adventureseeking95]

Something must have happened, like why else did he resign? Unless management told him to resign to save the hassle of what might happen, but more than likely he did something that once it comes out would have gotten him fired, it is absolutely crazy though.

[@rivahkillah]

Either something happened, or he doesn't want to deal with a witch hunt. In any case I can't imagine him getting another job in the NHL.

[@lg3988]

I think Babcock just babcocked up

[@bretts7694]

As a Columbus fan, this just adds to the ongoing disappointments and frustrations with this team. I was so excited for hockey season but now I'm just at a loss for words 😔Last place here we come.

[@Jalreal]

Chin up bro we got johnny, off-season champs 2022. Hang the banner in NWA

[@oceanshrugs9235]

Last place is just another way of saying best odds at 1st overall pick!

[@rudyst-laurent136]

dude last place would have come with babcock are you insane ? the way he started it off season is beyond the most stupid adult human being could have done

[@bretts7694]

@@rudyst-laurent136 I’m not supporting him either, I just want a decent hockey team without drama.

[@rudyst-laurent136]

then better without Babcock then @@bretts7694

[@tubesockwhisperer7828]

What was he even thinking, asking his players for their phones?? Just dumb.

[@NotHereForLikes]

Dude wanted some blackmail his own captain 😅

[@justinsolomita9283]

I was playing street hockey with a Jackets club here at OSU when the news broke, I can’t believe it! The guy didn’t make it to the start of training camp! God Save the Jackets!!!

[@Terminatedd]

So in a nutshell: - Babcock is hired - Players, fans and Jarmo feeling like no problems here, great to have an experienced coach - Babcock insists the players to show their personal photos - Everybody goes wtf? - Babcock fired

[@twwap294]

I knew that was a mistaken hire the moment I heard about it. Whoever hired him should also be fired.

[@kurtwpg]

Jarmo has a long history and some good personnel decisions. He was going to get fired in the next year or two and get another GM gig within a year or two after that. I wonder if this kills his shot at another job, too.

[@grapeabyss1744]

Well that escalated quickly

[@allyparker2636]

I think CBJ/Bab also realized just how much scrutiny he was under. Babcocks history means he was never going to be given the benefit of the doubt and the phone backlash just showed that he had already lost the room and players are no longer willing to tolerate his tactics

[@b3n751]

Bullseye.

[@anthonyclark9441]

And that's why they'll never win anything.

[@kronik658]

@@anthonyclark9441Babcock hasn’t won anything for a decade

[@mikeamber2528]

@@anthonyclark9441 they wouldn't win shit with that bum either LOL

[@Optimization_Coach]

Well that was quick! We need the story

[@PhilliesNostalgia]

We was checking players’ phones in meetings. I doubt that’s the full extent of it though

[@Optimization_Coach]

@@PhilliesNostalgia wtf ...? Why would he do that?

[@UserName-ts3sp]

@@Optimization_Coachapparently he was trying to get to know players by seeing their families and what not. older guys like boone and gaudreau understood… younger players were freaked out

[@Spetsnazty]

@@Optimization_Coachso I’ve heard with younger players he was making them airdrop their entire album to him. With vets he was just asking for “family” photos. This guy is a cancer.

[@sophiejune4515]

Yea someone 'like' Travis Green, cuz they can't have him he is with the Devils 😈. I think there are some players on CBJ that would have been fine under Babcock but I was worried about his mind games taking a toll on some of the other players. I'm glad he's out. I hope the they can come together over this and it doesn't derail them.

[@crossface222]

I knew you’d have a video right away. Love your channel. You are the most knowledgeable fan I have ever seen. Keep up the good work.

[@stevesteffan6616]

Bill Belichick did that to the New York Jets. He resigned the day after he was hired to go coach the Patriots.

[@CelibateYoda]

rip to a true blue jackets legend

[@marktucker696]

Imagine if a new manager was hired at your job, and he starts off telling you he needs to look through the photos on your phone. He needs some information that he can use later to keep you quiet when he starts abusing his power.

[@bigjohn08865]

I don't let anybody go through my phone.

[@rudyst-laurent136]

@@bigjohn08865 even cops are not allowed

[@ScottyDetroit]

That poor kid... traumatized for life.

[@jefflarson1652]

Imagine someone was dumb enough to hand over their phone instead of saying no and reporting it to HR.

[@keithck3720]

​@@jefflarson1652A pro sports team isn't a regular workplace. The coach has ALL the power to make or break a career so this is about Babcock using his power as the coach inappropriately. Some edge case 4th liner trying to make the team who may not want to share his personal life would feel a lot of pressure to say yes because his coach is making the request.

[@robertmulligan7475]

Between this, the Gudbranson contract and Gudbranson being the one who told HIM Johnny had interest in signing there... you gotta wonder about Jarmo's ability as a manager

[@jerryc3093]

Mike Commodore!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I knew Shannon would bring that up!!!

[@ultimetacooler]

WOW, I mean we all knew this was gonna happen eventually, but I legitimately cannot believe he lost the job before the season even began.

[@johnalwell5795]

People are Softer now but after what Babcock did to Marner I have No respect for him .

[@derektexas]

Harold Ballard firing Roger Neilson then asking him to return wearing a paper bag over his head falls into the ridiculous category

[@briancarless2132]

There was that Barry Melrose business years ago too.

[@LatinxGoyslop1488]

Crazy man, i really didn't think this would be a big deal. I wonder what they'll do now

[@Bum_Hip]

He leaves undefeated. So he’s got that going for him.

[@MeowTheWhat]

He seemed defeated enough to resign.

[@rudyst-laurent136]

and winless too

[@jin4576]

I can't choose between Grand Opening, Grand Closing or Coaching Speedrun Any%. Anyway I guess we'll see what shakes out soon and for Columbus if this had to happen, it was better to have it happen now than mid season.

[@saskcch]

I think the most recent comparable to this would be when Roy noped out of Colorado at around this time of year.

[@ryanatkinson9622]

Babcock: Ok ok, I finally have a new job; just don’t mess it up. Respect the players, treat people nicely, you can do this Babs, you have a Stanley Cup and a Gold Medal. You’re a legend. Just don’t mess it up. Jenner walks into the room Babcock: “LEMME SEE ALL THE PICTURES ON YOUR PHONE RIGHT NOW!!”

[@rosariocannistraro3561]

Like what if you got spicy pics of your wife or whatevs on your phone ? , I woulda told him to eat bag of dic*ks in two seconds flat . Gus like Babcock have zero self awareness somehow even after being in hot water over and over .

[@cbett4431]

babcock has done this stuff for years - probably thinks its a clever way to find things out about his players - and could always brush it off as something innocent - turns out some players are uncomfortable with it, especially with the power dynamics at play..

[@petrograd4068]

Yeah to me it sounds like an attempt to get power over the players by invading their privacy and learning embarrassing secrets about them to exploit. I don't think the request itself is bad enough to motivate firing him, but it's possible he threatened the players with reduced ice time when they tried to decline, and that could motivate a firing.

[@cbett4431]

@@petrograd4068 a lot of former players have said he likes to play mind games with them and screw with them - this is just another example of that - it also matters how exactly he asked, and we don't know those details yet - but clearly they discovered some more info that was pretty bad

[@lg3988]

Think about that: everything bad about Babcock could've been prevented by him asking "you okay with that?" Wild...

[@cbett4431]

@@lg3988 even if he had - he is their boss - they would still feel pressure to say "it's fine" - you don't tell your brand new boss no usually - might also be why jenner and gaudreau might have been pressured into putting out a statement defending him

[@RandomPlaceHolderName]

@@lg3988 C'mon, asking wouldn't have helped at all because of the power dynamics. You're talking about a 60 year old coach with 700 wins and a cup ring against possibly some 20 year olds trying to make the team... Edit 700 wins, not 600.

[@Kurt-ci1dk]

Babs has a pic of the last 4 letters of his name.

[@humblelad]

I definitely wasted my time trying to say give the guy a chance. The real question is why Columbus was dumb enough to hire him in the first place. Not even one game. Absolute joke.

[@KarIgo87]

Nice hit job.

[@Nelbroth]

When the news of this broke, I think a lot of folks (including myself) immediately thought he'd be gone. Yeah, players today are soft, but I definitely side with them on this. It's nobody's damn business what's on a guy's phone and the coach should be smart enough to know that.

[@goenzoy]

Did read his book long time ago when he still was a Red Wing So I m really lost since Toronto apart from him liking to play mindgames

[@JohnnyOlsson]

Jarmo should have checked the photos on Babcock's phone to find out what kind of man he is before hiring him.

[@DXAdamJensen]

He's done. No team is going to hire him. He is going to be blackballed. So long and good riddance

[@ericjencson9489]

Unbelievable! It's always something in Columbus.

[@douglawrence6066]

It's always something with Babcock.

[@mikeamber2528]

@@douglawrence6066 exactly

[@ItsRMFL]

Can't wait for his career video

[@jamess.9164]

Travis Green is associate coach in New Jersey

[@benjaminharrison5342]

When it comes to the "incident" it might not have been that bad but rather far too similar to what happened with Mitch. Pattern of behavior I think. Singling out players on the team, promoting unhealthy competition, maybe even overly aggressive or derogatory challenges to players could all constitute elements of an unhealthy workplace environment. I hate to say it as I think people can change if they want too, but very successful coaches like Quenville and Backcock won doing things "their way" and the inclination to revert to old habits can be too strong or too reasonable for them to fully embrace the changes the current NHL requires.

[@hmmt225p]

So, essentially what your saying, is the caliber of current NHL players and prospects are too soft. They can't handle firm instruction, criticism, or correction, no matter how correct it may be. I know, let's add a "cry-baby" box, next to the penalty box. That way when a player feels they are no longer safe, they can go to the little safe space and think about fondue, asparagus, and a gluten free diet....

[@dps0610]

From what Elliotte and others have said, Jenner and Johnny may have been truthful on their experiences, but others seemed to have a very different experience that was more invasive.

[@dps0610]

@@hmmt225pyea, fuck privacy right?!

[@hmmt225p]

@@dps0610 If you read and comprehend the original comment, there was no mention of the phones or the pictures. It was speaking of coaching styles and how players feel in regards to "aggressive or derogatory challenges". Reading is fundamental by the way.

[@Machine3499]

@@hmmt225p Yeah, you sound like a stable individual.

[@tdfmtig]

All those guys clowning spittin chicklets for telling us the truth

[@sid7088]

Locker room cohesion can be everything sometimes.

[@robertfrontuto7362]

Different sport, but this reminds me of Carlos Beltran being hired by the Mets as manager and leaving that same offseason with the Astros investigation.

[@clark85]

he was invading players' personal lives from the vantage point of being their boss. That is a huge dealbreaker. The players are not circus animals at a zoo to be gawked at, from either the public or those who are in positions of power over them. This was not odd at all. I applaude Paul Bissonnette for standing up for the players where NO ONE ELSE would. This Old boys club in the NHL holding them back

[@chosen729]

Yes really holding them back. When players could literally quit on any team they want. And force their way out! Really holding them back!

[@maxfish4270]

This type of comment reminds me of the meme where the pretty girl in an office cubicle flirts with the handsome guy then gets scared by the ugly coworker. I only really care about the Hurricanes so I don't know anything about Babcock but anyone that didn't want to share photos with Rod Brind'amour could go play somewhere else for all I care.

[@Holton67]

@@chosen729what?

[@clark85]

@@maxfish4270 uh this is a professional business in the end. what kind of statement are you even saying. Sounds like a coward making up excuses for an asshole. How's that for pointless rhetoric.

[@mikeamber2528]

@@maxfish4270 It's not just because of Babcock lmao. No coach should be asking to see the pictures on players' phones. That's a blatant invasion of privacy. The difference is Babcock is known for strange behavior like this. If Rod Brind'amour asks his players to show him private pictures on their phones and then ridicules them and taunts them for months if they refuse (which Babcock surely would have done) he deserves to be axed. At that point, it's not about who you are and more about the fact that you're not treating your players like human beings. The fact that I have to explain this to anyone in this day and age is scary. Time to take a look inwards, buddy.

[@atex6175]

The fact he was hired was a total shock to me the game has definitely passed him by.

[@rosariocannistraro3561]

Him , Torts and Pastor Bill Peters , These types need to be forgotten and left in the 70s/80s .

[@atex6175]

@@rosariocannistraro3561 well even the 90s/00s the way they coach is how I was coached coming up in 42 now. These young kids aren’t gonna respond the way my generation did to those type of coaches.

[@caniac7237]

Come on it's Babcock. Had to see this coming.

[@1Learn2Swim3]

That hiring was a smooth brain move in the first place. Theres not a player in the league that wants to play for Babcock after everything that came out about is tenure in Toronto.

[@Krokodilius]

0-0-0 record, hell of a run 🫡

[@KyleMacSkill]

NEVA LOST

[@adamlee007]

Shortest head coach in nhl history ???

[@ravensshadow2179]

I just looked it up Berry Melrose was for Tampa Bay, 45 days and 16 games. So games yes days I don't think so.

[@johnlarue3163]

The urban Meyer of hockey... Can't believe he got a job in the first place but not surprised he didn't even make it to his first game.

[@shaman2384]

I really had to check the date to make sure its no april fools etc. I never felt worse for a club than I now feel for the CBJ.