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BABE RUTH AND THE YANKEES - OLD TIME BASEBALL FILM - Early film reel in three parts

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Louis Caron

7 жыл бұрын

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"Early film reel in three parts depicting Babe Ruth and the Yankees"
Film reel in three parts: the first a 1921 Pathe Newsreel of the Cleveland Indians hosting the New York Yankees, likely August, 1920, with Babe Ruth predominantly featured (this section likely a later print, perhaps 1930s); the second section likely a "positive master" (per Cinelab Inc.) of other baseball reportage, including footage of Carl Mays (see note); the third section an undated colorized cartoon of Ruth at the bat. The three sections spliced together at an early point. The first section of this amusing newsreel shows the Cleveland Indians hosting the New York Yankees likely during August of the 1920 season. The preoccupation of much of the footage is on Babe Ruth, his contract recently purchased from Boston, appearing here in his Yankee uniform during his first season with the team. The reel opens with the text "The sporting question of the hour. Did Babe Ruth get another [homerun] today?" and continues to show much pre-game activity including Ruth warming up his arm, at batting practice and later at the plate during the game. Also shown is Bob Muesel, Wally Pipp, and Del Pratt who was traded at end of the 1920 season helping to date the footage. This section also contains rare slow motion footage of Carl Mays "the last of the underhand pitchers" who infamously killed beloved Cleveland shortstop Ray Chapman on August 16th, 1920 (during a Yankees home stand against the Indians just weeks later) and, while it is difficult to be certain, Chapman may be visible here in the sequence of the Indians dugout just before the rain delay. The second portion of the film, possibly a "positive master" print (with strong tones and contrast) shows New York Giants manager John McGraw instructing pitchers in practice, most notably Carl Mays who joined the team for one season only in 1929 (his last in the majors). Mays is shown throwing in his characteristic submarine style and is also interviewed with McGraw gripping the ball for this dangerous pitch. Combined, this footage of Carl Mays' whipping underhand delivery is a haunting reminder of the dangers of the game, and suggests that the focus of this compilation is equally on Mays as it is on Ruth.
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@aboxofbroken8tracks983
@aboxofbroken8tracks983 5 жыл бұрын
@8:02: The "high-speed analysis" of the Babe's "home run swing" is quite obviously a batting practice pop-up LOL. This footage is absolutely priceless!
@dougrockford5390
@dougrockford5390 7 жыл бұрын
I would give anything to go back in time and watch a game like this live
@fr6313
@fr6313 7 жыл бұрын
You and me both !!!
@hankberumen1399
@hankberumen1399 6 жыл бұрын
Doug Rockford I have said the same thing so many times!
@lloydkline7245
@lloydkline7245 5 жыл бұрын
Doug Rockford i rather read a book on babe ruth or a short video, i love babe ruth
@sanford943
@sanford943 5 жыл бұрын
I have thought about that as well. I am sure the game would look a lot different as far as the speed these players play at on film. I just read the Big Fella by Jane Leavy. It really made me think how cool it would have been to hear Ruth on tv. He was only 53 when he died in 48. If he hadn't gotten ill there was no reason why he couldn't have lived in to the 70's.
@lloydkline7245
@lloydkline7245 5 жыл бұрын
Babe ruth life story is the best in sports he used to be like a god like 714 himerun record
@MarkTitus420
@MarkTitus420 3 жыл бұрын
This is true vintage, must have been somewhere between 1918 and 1922 When The babe first went to the Yankees. This is a keeper and should be eternally kept for future generations. Thanks for this. I have recently became a fan of vintage baseball and could watch this stuff all day - anything with the three greats including 'The Babe'; such great athletes and people.
@chrisfranco6603
@chrisfranco6603 2 жыл бұрын
1920
@kevinjohnson-lf3kj
@kevinjohnson-lf3kj 4 ай бұрын
Well...Wally Pipp...was in the lineup...Gehrig was still at Colunbia University
@JimmyFoxhound
@JimmyFoxhound 6 жыл бұрын
Wow I love seeing old League Park! That ticket building seen at 2:05 is still standing, Cleveland turned the area into a park and you can play a game of baseball right on the same field that you see in this old film. It's really cool!
@daleeloph5283
@daleeloph5283 5 жыл бұрын
Got a chance to visit 66th and Lexington for the first time a few years back it was awsome imagin eing Addie Joss mowing down batters and then giggling imagineing the 99 Spiders (albeit they only played 23 games there that year)trying to win a game much like the 2016-17 Browns
@owenburnett2718
@owenburnett2718 5 жыл бұрын
@@daleeloph5283 Awesome. Would love to see it in person.
@owenburnett2718
@owenburnett2718 5 жыл бұрын
Great info. Would never have guessed it is still standing.
@owenburnett2718
@owenburnett2718 5 жыл бұрын
@@spinfly Cool link. Thanks for sharing.
@vgr112261
@vgr112261 2 жыл бұрын
I wish other cities had done the same with their parks, Brooklyn, Pittsburgh, New York (Polo Grounds), Philly.
@scooter5940
@scooter5940 2 жыл бұрын
The actual game footage is not from August but undoubtedly from June 15, 1920. It could not have been the Indian's August home stand with the Yankees, as Truck Hannah who is featured did not play in that series. The slow-motion footage of Mays pitching pre-game on the mound was clearly taken at Cleveland's League Park, so we know he started - which fixes the date of June 15. All elements of the June 15th box score fit this film - the throwing error on the Yankee third baseman (the high throw), Mays starting, Ruth with a strikeout and - importantly - Hannah picking off Cleveland's Bill Wambsganss at third. Cleveland won 10-2.
@StuMarston
@StuMarston 3 ай бұрын
So it was about two months after that Mays pitch killed Chapman
@deepcosmiclove
@deepcosmiclove 9 күн бұрын
A true baseball historian!
@shannenbarrett3794
@shannenbarrett3794 4 жыл бұрын
Players now have all this technology to help them improve, back then they truly had to work hard. This is why the babe will always be the best.
@cohenjadiel9558
@cohenjadiel9558 3 жыл бұрын
Instablaster
@lloydkline1518
@lloydkline1518 Жыл бұрын
Alot better pitching machines , vitamins, steroids , traveling, get paid to eat, no hot dogs at the s tadiums
@civil_leuthie
@civil_leuthie Жыл бұрын
Biggest difference is the bats. Those hand carved old-wood monsters would be impossible to use today.
@uncletony6210
@uncletony6210 4 ай бұрын
There's no way the players back then worked harder than the players today. For one, no one was in the weight room back then whereas everyone is today.
@TAYLORFAN50
@TAYLORFAN50 4 ай бұрын
​@@uncletony6210 - Weight room? Ruth, Musial, Mantle, Mays, Koufax and Gibson didn't need a weight room and they remain the best of the best. 😏
@CrookedEyeSniper
@CrookedEyeSniper 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta love how the players were also the groundskeepers. They were responsible for covering the field in the event of rain.
@KTF0
@KTF0 3 ай бұрын
No way I'm signing up for that 😂. Imagine a star player getting injured that way.
@CatStanleySpaceDemon
@CatStanleySpaceDemon Ай бұрын
I don''t think they were the actual groundskeepers. I think there was a sudden storm and the players were just helping out the crew to cover the field. Notice when they remove the tarp it's just the guys in white shirts and black trousers, no players.
@jacobalcala1972
@jacobalcala1972 7 жыл бұрын
Whhhyyy!!! I mean I love baseball today but we’re talking about the greats... Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, Foxx..... players I could only dream of seeing played live.
@loydkline
@loydkline Жыл бұрын
Major league baseball ⚾️ players against negro league baseball players 1920s/ 1930s
@pedrorodriguez8512
@pedrorodriguez8512 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that must be cleveland Indians first stadium league park very cool to see what it looked like .Especially The Babe in it as well LOVE IT .
@waynelenard3940
@waynelenard3940 4 ай бұрын
The mention of BASEALL, during that error will. Bring you. To tears...I mean that....Those. players...their talent...BABE RUTH.....ARE YOU KIDDING....PURE. TALENT NO WIMPS...BASEBALL...
@johnfalasca4586
@johnfalasca4586 4 ай бұрын
why do YOU. type...Like. THIS...
@mikefaber7546
@mikefaber7546 4 ай бұрын
An "error" indeed with the segregation line firmly in place until 1947.
@davidscherer9623
@davidscherer9623 2 жыл бұрын
Viewing this is absolutely relaxing...
@chrisfranco6603
@chrisfranco6603 2 жыл бұрын
4:31. Man, the Babe is swinging for the fences with every cut
@harryfrezza2563
@harryfrezza2563 6 жыл бұрын
Ruth was a great athlete...
@davidm2688
@davidm2688 6 жыл бұрын
My dad grew up in Brooklyn, NY and when he was 10 or so, he went to his first ball game. The Yankees were playing the Tigers and dad told me that even from the center field stands, Ruth was a very big man. Ruth hit one about 10 rows up behind where dad was sitting. Center field in Yankee Stadium in Ruth's time was 490 feet from home plate. Talk about POWER!! WOW!!!
@fastfootedone
@fastfootedone 5 жыл бұрын
and his only steroids were hot dogs lol
@KennyG_420
@KennyG_420 3 жыл бұрын
Did your dad collect baseball cards as a kid back then?
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 Жыл бұрын
@@KennyG_420 collecting cards didn’t really start until the 70s. Before then kids would get them for the gum and play games with the cards. We would flip them for heads or tails to win and some kids stuck them in their bicycle spokes to make it sound like a motorcycle. Any cards we had were kept in an empty soap box until our Mother got a hold of them and threw it out. That’s why the older cards are very rare.
@KennyG_420
@KennyG_420 Жыл бұрын
@@gfriedman99 oh wow. Didn’t know that, thanks
@cheekclappa7192
@cheekclappa7192 Жыл бұрын
​@@gfriedman99 I would the making the bike sound like motorcycle with a soda can lol
@chrisfranco6603
@chrisfranco6603 2 жыл бұрын
This is from 1920. Truck Hannah was the primary catcher for the Yankees that year and he is shown in the highlights and a screen card calls that out. In 1919 the Yankees regular catcher was Muddy Ruel and in 1921 it was Wally Schang.
@scooter5940
@scooter5940 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct. 1920 was Hannah's last year in the league. Though he also played with the Yankees in 1918 and 1919, Ruth was with the Red Sox those years. There is another clue it is 1920, when the card says "but the $125,000 Babe strikes out". That is the amount for which he was sold to the Yankees, and that would have been old news after the 1920 season. Specifically, this game was undoubtedly played June 15, 1920. That is the only Yankee/Indian game played in Cleveland that year in which Mays pitched (otherwise they would not have been able to analyze him slow motion unless he started and hence warmed up on the mound) and Hannah caught. Further, according to the box score, there were two errors on Yankee infielders that day (note the film of the high throw to first), Ruth had a strikeout, and - importantly - Hannah picked off Bill Wambsganss at third base. Note that two months later, Carl Mays would throw a pitch at the Polo Grounds on a gloomy day that killed Indians shortstop Ray Chapman. This film is likely the last (maybe the only) moving pictures taken of Chapman before he died.
@benscheidhastoomuchtosay2094
@benscheidhastoomuchtosay2094 4 ай бұрын
My baseball coach always used Wally Pipp as a reason not to miss anything, as on a day he felt unable to play Lou Gehrig stepped in and well you know the rest. He would say “do you know about Wally Pipp?” Blank stair from player. “ exactly, that’s why…….” God bless all the lore we continue with this game!
@bobcandon3977
@bobcandon3977 4 ай бұрын
Notice the mention of the 'follow through' swing. Players like pipp and speaker seemed to chop or hit down at the ball--appropriate to the passing dead ball era--while Babe was swinging for the fences.
@Raimond799
@Raimond799 5 жыл бұрын
Those were the days. I remember clearly family trip to USA in year 1924 and Babe Ruth performance against Boston. True legend.
@Giraffetaint
@Giraffetaint 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re telling the truth, I’m highly jealous of the fact that you got to see classic baseball. How old are you?
@Raimond799
@Raimond799 2 жыл бұрын
@@Giraffetaint 116
@brendanjobe6895
@brendanjobe6895 2 жыл бұрын
@@Giraffetaint He's either the world's oldest man, or in the running for worst case of dementia.
@garrypalahitski3194
@garrypalahitski3194 Жыл бұрын
BS…if you were 10 years old in 1924, in 2019 you’d be 105. You’d be clueless how to even write a post on KZbin.
@dannyc8876
@dannyc8876 6 ай бұрын
Did you lynch Austro Hungarians in the ol’ days ?
@tijuanaiguana190
@tijuanaiguana190 3 ай бұрын
8:30 I love that one kid who thought climbing the fence would be a better option than going through the gate
@lindablack3649
@lindablack3649 7 жыл бұрын
Would have loved to have seen "the Babe" play live . Babe Ruth was the best baseball player of all time .
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 5 жыл бұрын
If you don’t count Barry Bonds.
@stevebrownrocks6376
@stevebrownrocks6376 4 жыл бұрын
Sludge He's not even in the top 100...
@ColbyePresents
@ColbyePresents 3 жыл бұрын
*He peed on ppl in the showers.*
@Jacobthekid28
@Jacobthekid28 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevebrownrocks6376 That's laughable
@ShotCallaMcGavin
@ShotCallaMcGavin 3 жыл бұрын
@@sludge4125 if you count steroids as fair game
@omegaman1409
@omegaman1409 4 ай бұрын
These videos are treasures.
@CatStanleySpaceDemon
@CatStanleySpaceDemon Жыл бұрын
That right field wall in Cleveland had to be very inviting for The Babe.
@randymarsh6931
@randymarsh6931 Жыл бұрын
Babe’s swing, with a few small tweaks, would absolutely translate to the modern game.
@jaymoon5906
@jaymoon5906 Жыл бұрын
Swings stances all vary it’s the hitting eye which is from left center to right center once you figure that out you can hit at any level those who can see pitches in zones longer hit better no matter what era that is what translated to there successes if you are hitting the ball hard and up the middle don’t change a thing at all
@loydkline
@loydkline Жыл бұрын
Babe Ruth baseball ⚾️ hitting machine/ genius would've tearup pitching any era
@nibiruplanetx784
@nibiruplanetx784 5 жыл бұрын
The greatest players of all time.Such a treat to see.A feast for the eyes.
@loydkline
@loydkline Жыл бұрын
❤️ to see negro league baseball ⚾️ against majors league baseball in a series 7 games 1920s/ 1930s babe Ruth would've murder satchel paige best fastball out of yankee stadium or over fenway Park green 👻 monster fence
@CODstreamz
@CODstreamz 5 жыл бұрын
Play at .75 speed for real speed
@areguapiri
@areguapiri 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Negro League footage like this.
@nickajk1
@nickajk1 5 жыл бұрын
You can come to Kansas City we have the museum here
@nickajk1
@nickajk1 5 жыл бұрын
The museum is very nice you can take him some barbecue while you're here and enjoy your stay
@lloydkline6946
@lloydkline6946 3 жыл бұрын
Ty cobb, babe ruth,lou gehrig, Jimmy fox vs satchel Paige, knock Paige off the pitching mound
@Odin029
@Odin029 3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydkline6946 Satchel Page pitched in the majors in his early 40s and did pretty well, 2.78 era and an above 500 record. He was good enough at 41 for the Indians to keep on the World Series roster. He even got some action. Guys 20 years younger than him weren't knocking him off the mound. Put him against Ruth and Cobb in his prime and I think he would have done just fine.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
@@Odin029 I tend to agree. Satch went 6-1 with a 2.40 something ERA as a 42 year old rookie. A 26-year old Satch would be a handful.
@JackieDaytona1776
@JackieDaytona1776 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the high speed Ruth clip is clearly a foul pop in batting practice and the next shot is the children chasing it through Manhatten
@timetraveler7065
@timetraveler7065 5 жыл бұрын
Nice footage.Very enjoyable.Babe-#1
@angrygrizz5741
@angrygrizz5741 2 жыл бұрын
Baseballs best era.
@TiagoGomez-hb9te
@TiagoGomez-hb9te 3 ай бұрын
Power Era baseball says hi (1994-2007). Live-ball era baseball is close though (1920-1930s)....
@bigpolitical8292
@bigpolitical8292 7 жыл бұрын
Some of this footage was used in the Ken Burns documentary. Awesome Stuff!
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
At the end you'll see an old, fat guy in a hat named John McGraw. That old fat guy was an agile, speedy, heady ballplayer with the third highest OBP in baseball history. The leadoff guy for the three-time championship Baltimore Orioles (1894-96).
@user-ks6sn3lq3g
@user-ks6sn3lq3g 2 ай бұрын
And like most ballplayers from that era, a cheater!
@tyyoung8173
@tyyoung8173 5 жыл бұрын
Cy Young greatest pitcher of all time. In my humble opinion one record that will never be broken is 511 wins. Even a 20 game winner for 20 years still ends up short of the record. Think about it.
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 5 жыл бұрын
And your hero’s all time record for the most losses will never be broken, either.
@tyyoung8173
@tyyoung8173 5 жыл бұрын
Right. He won 195 more games than he lost. I’ll take that any day. If you win 195 games now you’re in the HOF. Oh...and not to mention 749 complete games.
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 5 жыл бұрын
@@tyyoung8173 Wow, like a little child who has trouble comprehending, you seem a little sensitive. *All I stated was a mere fact,* plus the opinion that Cy's record will never be broken. *That triggered you, Ty?*
@fastfootedone
@fastfootedone 5 жыл бұрын
@@sludge4125 actually, as a neutral in this debate, you are the one who seems triggered and sensitive....sorry, but truth is truth ;-)
@brendanjobe6895
@brendanjobe6895 2 жыл бұрын
My vote goes to Koufax in his prime, but his lack of longevity knocks him out of the running. Greatest hitter: Williams and Cobb. Greatest player: Ruth. Like Sammy Davis, "He did it all." Greatest person: Gehrig, a quiet Camel smoker, who was dealt a horrible blow while he still had some good playing years left. I'd like to see what William's totals would have been had he #1 played for the Yankees and #2 not lost all those years in service of his country. I'd just bet he would have approached 700 homers.
@scottaznavourian5791
@scottaznavourian5791 5 жыл бұрын
7:26 awesome slo mo replay in the 20's!
@aberamagold7509
@aberamagold7509 5 жыл бұрын
The players dash out to protect the precious field (or something like that) from the rain. Can you imagine today's egomaniacal players being asked to do something like this? Every agent's phone would be ringing off the hook or whatever cell phones would ring or vibrate off of.
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 5 жыл бұрын
So, what’s your point? The old time players would still do that if they played today? Or is your point the fact that you are an old, stale turd?
@Trucker1957
@Trucker1957 6 жыл бұрын
I love how the greats would swing the bat, almost running to meet the ball, with a full powerful swing. Totally different than today.
@jazzmanchgo
@jazzmanchgo 5 жыл бұрын
Not just "almost running" -- I've seen footage of the Babe where he definitely runs right out of the batter's box to meet the ball! For some reason, they never called it.
@jyosuckas6720
@jyosuckas6720 2 жыл бұрын
Yea slapping it and bunting, small ball
@bumblebeemoi
@bumblebeemoi 6 жыл бұрын
The players pull out the tarp?? WOW
@TheRomundus
@TheRomundus 5 жыл бұрын
Most owners barely paid their players anything, much less hire a grounds crew!!
@ashleyp3662
@ashleyp3662 5 жыл бұрын
Gangsta
@johnschunk97
@johnschunk97 4 жыл бұрын
@MANCHESTER UNITED why are you here? What's wrong with you?
@tristianmcleod3008
@tristianmcleod3008 4 жыл бұрын
MANCHESTER UNITED F.C and you guys cry when someone kicks your ankle stfu
@ravilcn
@ravilcn 3 жыл бұрын
@M yet you are here watching baseball from 100 years ago
@billcavazos2817
@billcavazos2817 5 жыл бұрын
Very unusual batting form Tris Speaker had. Noticed how he leaves his back foot early when swinging.
@carytodd7211
@carytodd7211 2 жыл бұрын
Assuming the film is at 100% speed, we should be able to calculate the speed of the pitches, assuming regulation distance between the pitching rubber and home plate.
@bryan3dguitar
@bryan3dguitar 4 ай бұрын
But, it's obviously not shown at 100% real speed. It's being played back too quickly. If you change the Playback Speed to 0.75, then it looks quite normal. Any timing (and therefore the resulting speed) calculations should be based on this factor.
@chrisfranco6603
@chrisfranco6603 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible footage
@atomicorang
@atomicorang 2 ай бұрын
Could you just imagine if they had 4K video back when The Bambino played? Even watching him theow in warmup practice he had quite the throwing arm!
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
Pipp's 'batting analyzed' is at the Polo Grounds.
@davidswift647
@davidswift647 6 жыл бұрын
Also, interesting fact, Tris Speaker was 32yr old and 2nd yr manager of Indians and won World Series this year : 1920 👍
@M1IRONMIKE
@M1IRONMIKE 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting.......very cool
@jeffreythomson8068
@jeffreythomson8068 6 жыл бұрын
Guess he wasn't always fat, huh? When he came to the Yanks Ruth was a relatively svelte 6-2 and 198. But his appetite was enormous. For breakfast he ate a pound of bacon, a dozen eggs and a loaf of bread. He gained weight in the off season then sweated it off at Hot Springs before spring training. Except in 1925 when the weight didn't come off and he became very sick. After that yr he came under guidance of Artie McGovern who literally saved his career.
@syourke3
@syourke3 6 жыл бұрын
jeffrey thomson No, he weighed 215 as a rookie and he never lost weight.,
@howie9751
@howie9751 6 жыл бұрын
He was a good base runner in his early years and a base stealer.
@jaygrenham
@jaygrenham 5 жыл бұрын
He was only 25 when he came to the Yankees. Of course he was lighter as we all are at that age. . Pound of bacon?? Yeah right. Believe everything you read? Hillary was going to win! I read it..it must be true :-( After 30 years old he hit more home runs than before he was 30.
@thomasromano9321
@thomasromano9321 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard of Ruth's legendary appetite binges. Not to mention he liked his beer and spareribs as well. I'm amazed players as talented as Ruth had such a long career in spite of his addictions to cigars, pipes, women, and heavy eating.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
@@syourke3 Wrong.
@MrTrackman100
@MrTrackman100 5 жыл бұрын
Film had to be before June 2, 1925, since it shows Wally Pipp who never played another game for the Yankees since Gehrig took his place that day and never gave it up until 1939.
@angalinegomez1856
@angalinegomez1856 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't he just hit it out of the ball park
@thomaswilliams2723
@thomaswilliams2723 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Mays' submarine on camera after years of imagining Chapman's death is strange
@johnfarel3152
@johnfarel3152 5 жыл бұрын
Terrific footage!
@rodmunch4879
@rodmunch4879 6 жыл бұрын
Athletes in their prime. Everyone even the fans in this video are dead. We all die. Enjoy every day.
@brianwells456comcast
@brianwells456comcast 6 жыл бұрын
Very possible that this game was on June 15,1920.These two teams would be playing again on August 16th with Carl Mays again pitching.Sadly,Mays hit Cleveland`s shortstop Ray Chapman in the head causing his death.This is the only time that a batter has died from a pitched ball in MLB history.
@louiscaron7142
@louiscaron7142 6 жыл бұрын
It is very possible. According to historical weather data, it was raining that day.
@beakt
@beakt 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, assuming it's all the same day (most likely, but you never know what kind of yarn these old filmmakers might put together from different days of filming), this was June 15, 1920. It's the only game in Cleveland (in any year) where Hannah caught Mays for the Yankees, and Ruth struck out. More confirmation: Pipp was playing first base, Speaker (manager) was in for Cleveland. Huggins was manager of the Yankees. Also, look up a picture of George Hildebrand, who is listed as the home plate umpire in the box score, and you'll recognize him in this video. Yankees third baseman Ward was charged with an error (the bad throw shown here). They do make it seem Ruth hit a homer, but he didn't in this game. Plus, what they showed looked like a foul ball! www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1920/B06150CLE1920.htm Cleveland won, 10-2.
@scooter5940
@scooter5940 2 жыл бұрын
@@beakt I didn't see your note before I posted but you are 100% correct. Also, the advanced box score from the 6/15/20 game lists Hannah picking off Bill Wambsganss at third, which would be a rare event. The focus on Ruth was understandable, as he was in his prime (note how thin he was) and in the middle of a breakout season. But, not only was the "one run" a batting practice pop foul, he was wearing pinstripes - the Yankees, like most clubs of the time, wore a drab gray on the road.
@swalterstennis
@swalterstennis 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic footage!!! Thanks you!!!
@Bestroblozianxxx
@Bestroblozianxxx 7 жыл бұрын
I'm 72 years old I've been watching baseball since 1951 and I love my Brooklyn Dodgers and I thought they were great. But to days players or bigger stronger faster and inbetter condition all around eat healthier better training conditionsand although I love the past I don't live in the past and the bottom line is today's players are so much better than the players of my youth
@why-why-whywhywhy
@why-why-whywhywhy 6 жыл бұрын
John Williams - Mr. Williams are you honestly going to tell us that Walter Johnson/Lou Gehrig & Ty Cobb (to name the 3 greatest MLB players of All-Time) could not play & be just as successful (if not more) in today's game? If so & no disrespect, I think that you are way off base (bad pun, I know) but surely you get my point, don't you?
@rodmunch4879
@rodmunch4879 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Williams is not off base he’s 100% correct. Not saying the old timers could not make it today but they’d be average at best.
@UnleashTheGreen
@UnleashTheGreen 6 жыл бұрын
Tee Dee just look at the gloves they using. a tony gwynn would have hit 5.00 back then. they weren't digging balls out of the dirt then or making diving stops or leaping grabs like they do today, no way ty cobb would hit 4.00 today.
@marcosc7375
@marcosc7375 6 жыл бұрын
Tee Dee babe Ruth Lou Gehrig, ty Cobb, Walter Johnson would probably be better if playing today if they were conditioned as today’s players. I get where Mr. Williams is coming from.
@ScoopTV
@ScoopTV 6 жыл бұрын
Dude you do know all those players played in a time when the game its self was different. Shit the mound wasn't even raised at that time. Also the balls were different back then. If you was to rip those guys out of that time and stick them into this generation as is, they will be batting no higher than .220. I mean the league strikeout rate is rising every year. They're even thinking of making the diamond smaller just to bring back hitting. The fast ball average speed is climbing every year because this generation is more athletic. Nothing to take away from those guys because in their time the were the mike trouts and barry bonds of their time.
@thecollector893
@thecollector893 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing ruth in that stadium would be amazing. Interesting to know only day games played.
@christian4u69
@christian4u69 3 жыл бұрын
The first major league night game was in 1935. Cincinnati Reds vs Philadelphia Phillies. (Reds win 2-1)
@edb6690
@edb6690 5 жыл бұрын
Wally Pipp, the one who didn't want to play one because he had a headache and began Lou Gehrig's streak. Reminder to all players, never sit out a game, you may never get back into one.
@brendanjobe6895
@brendanjobe6895 2 жыл бұрын
My cousin sat out a game with Cincinnati (2nd base). Guess who took his place that day, and from then on?
@bmorebob6624
@bmorebob6624 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this whoever you are!
@why-why-whywhywhy
@why-why-whywhywhy 6 жыл бұрын
Always thought that Lou Gehrig was the player who stirred the New York Yankees drink, but honestly, has anyone here ever seen a more iconic swing & follow through than that of one, Mr. George Herman 'Babe' Ruth Jr.?
@Lord_Bibulous
@Lord_Bibulous 6 жыл бұрын
Tee Dee The Babe was the face of those teams no doubt. But in my opinion Gehrig was more important to the team overall beyond the field. Being overshadowed by Ruth and later on DiMaggio for pretty much his whole career couldn't have been easy. However Lou handled it with class and diginity rarely seen. His modesty and humbleness created a perfect balance to Ruth's huge personality and DiMaggio's natural charisma. He showed up to work every game and took nothing for granted. Had he not died so young I'm sure he would've managed the Yankees at some point as well.
@joany8787
@joany8787 6 жыл бұрын
Tee dee yes I have, D.strawberry if he didn’t get mixed up in drugs and alcohol he would have crushed bonds and Ruth’s records.but we,ll never know. Also your right Ruth’s swing was a beautiful thing.
@fastfootedone
@fastfootedone 6 жыл бұрын
you thought wrong
@obhobo
@obhobo 6 жыл бұрын
this footage is pre-Gehrig, but yes, Lou was as great or better than any in history. The numbers are incredible (Ted Williams esque). A beast of an athlete that could walk onto to a field today and dominate. All around class-act to boot.
@TheNico2011nico
@TheNico2011nico 6 жыл бұрын
if not for ruth Gehrig would be the greatest baseball player of all time
@hectorlopez1069
@hectorlopez1069 Жыл бұрын
people got to see the babe play baseball.
@jaysoper3974
@jaysoper3974 3 жыл бұрын
rare view of Carl Mays & the kind of pitching that killed Roy Chapman
@brendanjobe6895
@brendanjobe6895 2 жыл бұрын
That's a little unfair. Time of day, condition of the ball, and Mays himself had a lot more to do with it than Carl Mays' pitching delivery. He did, however, have a reputation for brushing back batters. I think he brushed back Ty Cobb every time he came to bat during one game.
@davidswift647
@davidswift647 6 жыл бұрын
Del Pratt depicted early with Ruth , Meusel and Wally Pipp played his last Yankee season in 1920. Oh to go back in time , at least to visit :-)
@JohnDoukasPhotography
@JohnDoukasPhotography 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see Cleveland playing a shift for Babe Ruth. I always that was a modern ploy...
@JS-fe8sx
@JS-fe8sx 3 жыл бұрын
Babe started using a drag bunt down third base from time to time and forced them to move back to a normal alignment.
@Casper50002
@Casper50002 3 ай бұрын
Love this
@richardmichael5656
@richardmichael5656 Жыл бұрын
I noticed Babe Rruth kept his feet so close together when the pitch was starting but then he split his feet apart while swinging.
@FooBarr1
@FooBarr1 5 жыл бұрын
Walter Johnson pitched sidearm too, pretty much the way Carl Mays did. It was just as fast and Train said he was more accurate that way. It's a wonder more pitchers don't throw that way. Only a few every generation.
@stevewixom9311
@stevewixom9311 3 жыл бұрын
the footage showing Meusel/Pipp is backwards. Pipp batted left handed while Meusel hit right handed
@DC-nb2oj
@DC-nb2oj 3 жыл бұрын
100 year old baseball is fascinating…The uniforms looked a lot like pyjamas. Still curious how they hit home runs with those stances as sometimes they seemed very off balance at the end of the swing while other times it seems like they lunged at a ball to hit it.
@civil_leuthie
@civil_leuthie Жыл бұрын
The part of the swing that matters isn't that much different, although a lot more disconnection between hands and shoulders than today's game allows. The balanced follow through used today wasn't really enforced until the 80s and really is just a feedback mechanism for maintaining that connection. You can have a perfectly sequenced and connected swing and follow through like a 1920s hitter.
@jakethompson6275
@jakethompson6275 7 жыл бұрын
Thank You!!!
@Jefff72
@Jefff72 4 ай бұрын
This is cool. It's like peaking into a window of life 100 years ago.
@wilsonblauheuer6544
@wilsonblauheuer6544 6 жыл бұрын
watch Babe Ruth. Do you see any sign of pudginess or anything less than athletic fitness? My grandfather was a NY Giants fan and he saw Yankee games with Ruth in the outfield and he said there was never any talk or sense of Ruth not being a fully capable and athletic outfielder. The old time camera doesn't always show motion all that clearly and accurately. But Grandpop said Ruth was a fine- outstanding and athletic player.
@wilsonblauheuer6544
@wilsonblauheuer6544 6 жыл бұрын
Also that Ruth was a swift runner who could run the bases AND cover the outfield very well. Ruth was, in one sentence, the best baseball player to ever play pro ball in the USA
@beakt
@beakt 6 жыл бұрын
This is 1920. Ruth was 25 years old. Many of the pictures in the late 1920s and 1930s, of course, are when he was way past age 30, when men's bellies grow with little effort.
@iamhungey12345
@iamhungey12345 5 жыл бұрын
@Guy Fisher Babe Ruth was actually fit during his prime, the image he became famous for happened in the 1930s when he started to grow old.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 5 жыл бұрын
@Guy Fisher
@thegamingsquad9546
@thegamingsquad9546 5 жыл бұрын
wilson blauheuer How Good would Babe Ruth be on today’s teams?Today’s players are so much better then the players back in the day
@SuperMarioJamesSMJ
@SuperMarioJamesSMJ 3 жыл бұрын
The giants footage was so clear...too bad most clips aren't...any idea who the giants pitcher was?
@aresee8208
@aresee8208 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen the old League Park ticket office building in Cleveland (it's still there), and it looks much more impressive in the old films. Perhaps it's just the perspective. The park was just 290' down the right field line. Wouldn't pass muster today.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 4 жыл бұрын
YesItWould. Cut the crap, son.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
@Nimfa Mcdonald You. If you don't pipe down!
@CJ-ov9jd
@CJ-ov9jd 4 жыл бұрын
Just a curious question! How did you get this footage? Are you the original owner?
@louisc1227
@louisc1227 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am the owner of the film. You can click on the link (below the video) for more informations. Thanks.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
@@louisc1227 No Lou. Thank YOU.
@andreUyslessFayard737
@andreUyslessFayard737 7 жыл бұрын
Babe Ruth is my favourite baseball player ever I hate how people think he took drugs to do better and thinking he did not call his shot it's so annoying so god damnit he's the greatest
@jacobalcala1972
@jacobalcala1972 7 жыл бұрын
Baller Squad by drugs you mean eat hot dogs in between innings and chug pints of beer before games lol
@andreUyslessFayard737
@andreUyslessFayard737 7 жыл бұрын
Jacob Alcala no he was not on steroids because they were not even invented at the time and still all the stuff you said he's still bad ass and amazing
@jacobalcala1972
@jacobalcala1972 7 жыл бұрын
Baller Squad I never said he was on drugs lol I’m saying the closest thing to PHD for them where hot dogs and beer lol
@thomasromano9321
@thomasromano9321 6 жыл бұрын
Drugs? What kind of Performance enhancing drugs did they have in the 1920's?
@daleeloph5283
@daleeloph5283 5 жыл бұрын
Nope Babe did all his amazing feats drunk and full of hot dogs no steroids needed
@bigtalk2598
@bigtalk2598 2 ай бұрын
Their stances and approaches to the pitch were very different back in the day, but at the moment of impact, their body positions and mechanics are exactly the same as the great hitters of today. Straight front foot, all the weight off the back foot, full torque around a stationary front. Velocity back then was not what it is today, for the most part, but it seems like ball movement was much more important back then. 84 with a large break vs. 95 with little break. Not sure which is harder to hit. Great video.
@bryan3dguitar
@bryan3dguitar 4 ай бұрын
Motions look natural if you adjust the Playback Speed to 0.75 in the Settings...
@davidcoles198
@davidcoles198 4 ай бұрын
This film is so old the players didn’t wear numbers.
@uselessjoe
@uselessjoe 5 жыл бұрын
pre 1929 as no one had numbers on their jersey yet... and no batting helmets for years to come...
@bh8642
@bh8642 5 жыл бұрын
The Yankees had Wally Pipp at first base, so it could not be later than 1924. Why? In 1924 the Yankees' manager wanted to see how rookie Lou Gehrig played so they rested Wally Pipp for one game. That "one game" turned into two etc., and Wally Pipp was eventually traded - he never played first base again for the Yankees.
@uselessjoe
@uselessjoe 5 жыл бұрын
that's good wally pipp info, but the numbers on the back info is correct..well documented @@bh8642
@straycatttt
@straycatttt 4 жыл бұрын
bh, Carl Mays last played for NY in 1923 so that rules out 1924.
@Jefff72
@Jefff72 4 ай бұрын
I'm asking myself about what caused the rise of organized sports, especially professional sports by the mid to late 19th Century. These then started to flourish in the 20th century. I believe one major factor was the steam engine. Once rail was laid, you could transport teams over greater distances much more quickly. I think an industrialized society would have workers with spare time and looking for a release.
@brianwells456comcast
@brianwells456comcast 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like Lefty O`Doul at 3:28 in NY dugout at far left side.He reaches out and grabs player walking past him.O`Doul was a pitcher at that time, thus his nickname.He is the only great hitter stuck with a pitcher`s nickname that I know of.
@louiscaron7142
@louiscaron7142 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. :-)
@thecollector893
@thecollector893 5 жыл бұрын
this is why I collect cards is because it brings those days back in a way
@shawnjackson1223
@shawnjackson1223 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@mrjamesgrimes
@mrjamesgrimes 4 ай бұрын
Wow I could absolutely have played pro ball in those days
@jimmym2486
@jimmym2486 Жыл бұрын
This popped up on my You Tube feed yesterday and I was wondering about Chapman when I saw Mays (before I read your video summary) Was Chapman in the video like you said only a few weeks before the tragedy? Maybe but we will never know. As for the video itself I love these type of things that allow us to travel and briefly observe the past. Not only was it a kick to see players that I reaad about in Lawrence Ritter's The Glory of their Times. It was also cool to visit League Park (I am pretty sure that was the name of the Indians Homw before Cleveland Stadium!!!
@RealBabesGhost
@RealBabesGhost 6 жыл бұрын
I like getting on this KZbin thing and Seeing- myself Kick Ass
@tonymostromable
@tonymostromable 6 жыл бұрын
you were...uh, are ?...great....!
@storyneal
@storyneal 4 жыл бұрын
Babe Rut
@jakethompson6275
@jakethompson6275 7 жыл бұрын
No, Ping appears from 1:10 to 1:16 just right of Ruth ..briefly albeit. I was excited about it because it's the first Ping Bodie footage Ive seen..I'm a big fan of his
@louiscaron7142
@louiscaron7142 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@obhobo
@obhobo 6 жыл бұрын
per wiki: "On April 3, 1919, in Jacksonville, Florida, Bodie competed against an ostrich named "Percy" in a spaghetti-eating contest. According to legend, Bodie won when Percy passed out after his 11th plate.." Ha!!
@garryharris3777
@garryharris3777 6 жыл бұрын
Are you sure its Ping Bodie? My first impression was that it looks like Roger Peckinpaugh.
@tomhartman6116
@tomhartman6116 5 жыл бұрын
How could you not love Babe Ruth? Even kids born after he died loved the guy because we all knew how much he loved kids. I hope that made up in Gods view for all his faults.
@TiagoGomez-hb9te
@TiagoGomez-hb9te 3 ай бұрын
Nope
@michaeljoyner6470
@michaeljoyner6470 4 ай бұрын
Babe was really special !
@rcarlisi63
@rcarlisi63 Жыл бұрын
lots of foot movement in the batters box............I guess it worked....
@allensaunders449
@allensaunders449 2 жыл бұрын
Some of this doesn't make sense the sun is obviously out when crowds are shown outside during a rain delay I see the Chicago cubs manager next to a Yankee. It's a Cleveland yankee game. Still interesting a window in the past
@jakethompson6275
@jakethompson6275 7 жыл бұрын
Thats Ping Bodie to the left of Ruth ..when Ruth is warming up his arm. I wish I could ask the Bambino what it was like to room with Ping Bodie!!
@louiscaron7142
@louiscaron7142 7 жыл бұрын
The one with the bat?
@RealBabesGhost
@RealBabesGhost 7 жыл бұрын
What would you like to know?
@no-bozos
@no-bozos 6 жыл бұрын
Wallie Pipp. The player Lou Gehrig replaced after Pipp decided to sit a game out. LOL!!!
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 5 жыл бұрын
He was a good player, too. But he had a headache, and they told him to take his aspirin at home.
@FosterFilms12
@FosterFilms12 4 ай бұрын
4:01 that is remarkable
@sammcneil20
@sammcneil20 3 ай бұрын
that little boy at the start would be likely 110 years old today. estimated he was about 7 years old.
@joedimes8239
@joedimes8239 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if there are any old time "speed corrected" baseball game films of these greats? I asked by grandparents and they said people didn't walk that fast in the olden days.
@wally1166
@wally1166 7 жыл бұрын
Babe Ruth is my 12yr old son favorite player there is something very special about babe ruth that's likeable & not to mention a great role model
@manofiske3318
@manofiske3318 5 жыл бұрын
"Likable"? In a sense. "Role model"? On the field, perhaps. Off the field? Now, that's an entirely different story.
@aresee8208
@aresee8208 4 жыл бұрын
Ruth up in Cleveland and the crowd was probably calling for a strike-out.
@billhayes5581
@billhayes5581 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine these prima donnas today having to roll out the tarps?
@DC-nb2oj
@DC-nb2oj 3 жыл бұрын
Been trying to understand what Tris Speaker says at 3:18 by looking at his lips over and over again and all I can decipher is “ water.. then something something……and I’ve seen….. and something something… and finally.. maybe, am I right?”. I’m assuming he’s talking to ump about water level in outfield, outfield grass. Anyone else get anything different? Would love to know what he’s saying exactly. Huggins on other hand, just chewing gum.
@nickajk1
@nickajk1 5 жыл бұрын
Depending if it was late twenties or early thirties he looks like maybe he was six or seven what would that make him 96 100 years old
@bh8642
@bh8642 5 жыл бұрын
The Yankees had Wally Pipp at first base, so it could not be later than 1924. Why? In 1924 the Yankees' manager wanted to see how Lou Gehrig played so they rested Wally Pipp for one game. That "one game" turned into two etc., and Wally Pipp was eventually traded - he never played first base again for the Yankees.
@thomaswolf723
@thomaswolf723 4 жыл бұрын
@@bh8642 It was in 1925 that Gehrig replaced Pipp.
@TheRomundus
@TheRomundus 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@straycatttt
@straycatttt 4 жыл бұрын
1:20. That can’t be Bob Meusel. Meusel batted right, not left.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 4 жыл бұрын
I think they got Pipp and Meusel backwards. Pipp was lefty, I believe.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
@Nimfa Mcdonald A believer. I believe you need to be quiet.
@kevinjohnson-lf3kj
@kevinjohnson-lf3kj 4 ай бұрын
Old Wally Pipp...Before Lou Gehrig
@ronwallace6273
@ronwallace6273 5 жыл бұрын
the best player to ever play the game ruth then Cobb then Joe Jackson
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 5 жыл бұрын
If you don’t count Barry Bonds.
@ronwallace6273
@ronwallace6273 5 жыл бұрын
@@sludge4125 why would a cheater even be said in same breathe as true heroes
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 5 жыл бұрын
@@ronwallace6273 Maybe the English language is a little too much for you to master. You wrote; "the best player to ever play the game ruth then Cobb then Joe Jackson" Bonds was better than any of them. Gee, one of your heroes got a lifetime suspension. Another hero is suspected of committing a racist murder. (It didn't happen, but some people still believe it did.) Even if he didn't, he was an openly racist piece of garbage. Actually, Ruth might be better than Bonds if you consider he would have made the HOF as a pitcher, too. "why would a cheater even be said in same breathe as true heroes" Yeah, an out and out racist is a hero. Someone who got his ass a lifetime suspension is a hero. Try to make sense next time.
@ronwallace6273
@ronwallace6273 5 жыл бұрын
@@sludge4125 yes I did say that sister sledge , ruth , Cobb, Joe Jackson the best to play game , and I went to school longer than you I got past 2nd grade
@booniedavillier504
@booniedavillier504 4 жыл бұрын
Spoil alert!!!!! Babe Ruth's bats were CORKED!!!! and that's a fact.... All his bats were.... That's cheating to right????
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