Babylon 5 - The Secession of Babylon 5

Morgan Clark becomes President of the Earth Alliance by making a deal with the closest thing to the devil you can get to in this universe. But his plans to establish himself as an untouchable dictator are stymied by a shining metal cylinder all alone in the night.
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00:00 Intro
00:32 Earthforce One
02:04 Clark's Nightwatch
03:27 A Shining Beacon in the Night
05:41 Kirkish's Nightmare
08:16 Attack on Ganymede
10:37 Clark Plays His Hand
12:01 Under Nightwatch's Gaze
15:13 Alexander's Refuge
16:50 Standing Against the Dark
19:40 The Last Best Hope...
20:35 Patreon Supporters
21:07 Credits

[@MacsLore]

Among other milestones like hitting the 10k subscribers mark for this channel, I also got my first copyright strike yesterday when I tried uploading this! So I pulled a few extra hours of render time and to not set off any alarms in this repload. So far it's good, and hopefully it stays that way. Also, for those keeping track of the Omega Nose Art: Roanoke - Raiden Shogun Alexander - Prince Alexander of Daventry Churchill - Darjeeling Agrippa - Eula Lawrence Patreon: patreon.com/user?u=98553222 Twitter: twitter.com/MacsLore Bluesky: bsky.app/profile/macslore.bsky.social

[@markfreeman4727]

a copy right strike?! for what?!!!

[@PY5RA]

Probably for using B5 music :/

[@joddypranata1862]

Welp... at least there's no strikes remaining, while your tracking ways? I approb.

[@captainyossarian388]

Love the nose art.

[@MacsLore]

Actually it was one of the video clips in the CG, it ran on a little too long for KZbin's liking. Surprisingly the music is ok.

[@DoctorEviloply]

It's really weird to watch Babylon 5 now after seeing how crazy our world has gotten. Just look what happened earlier today. Babylon 5 is more relevant than ever.

[@MacsLore]

Yeah, I too thought it was funny while working on this that a president going full-dictator was the realm of Science-Fiction back in the 90s.

[@alexhurlbut]

Totally!

[@warhawk4494]

Yeah same here. I was never in my life time would a president go full dicator/puppet and America would be a banana republic. Though I'm assuming y'all are talking about something old blackface Trudeau did. God bless y'all stay safe.

[@christophersims7060]

Yes indeed

[@Grimloxz]

I’ve watched the entirety of the Babylon 5 run during the Bush-Iraq war years, the authoritarian cop state Trump years, and the bumbling Biden and you know who authoritarian moment (years???) and found relevance in all three periods.

[@CanMav]

That threat by Delenn still gives me chills.

[@Patman-cr3tu]

Still does to this day

[@Suisfonia]

Indeed, it is sad that we lost the actor :(

[@CDWCAULDRON]

B5 is not over , the story has yet to be written. Take hart young ones, their is more to come.

[@cgibbons881]

Amen to that

[@nickm9102]

"There is only one human that has destroyed a Minbari vessel. He is behind me, you are in front of me. If you value your lives be somewhere else."

[@mazack00]

B5's rise to an independent state is one of the greatest space opera stories ever told! Great video. This is why we ring the bell, people!

[@PY5RA]

Definitely up there alongside the story of Kuun-Lan from Homeworld. Great writing.

[@mazack00]

@@PY5RA Ooo a fellow Cataclysm fan. o7

[@oprime0078]

“Bill, did you ever meet the Captain of the Clarkstown?” “He and the General were at the academy together. Hage introduced him to me last summer, he has a wife back home. Three small children, and an Abassynian cat named Max.” “That what makes this war different then anything we’ve ever gone through before.” “This time, we know everyone we kill.”

[@sdfried4877]

You left out “Lord knows what I’ll say to both their wives.”

[@kawh8719]

this is a great re-telling of this scene. And this is one of the most beloved sequences in B5 lore. I still get chills when Delen shows up and saves the day. This was an excellent reminder of a wonderful scene!

[@BdogFinal14]

B5 and BSG were without question, the two greatest sci-fi dramas of the last 30 years.

[@ytucharliesierra]

If I may add "The Expanse"...

[@genxlife]

I think B5 and the new BSG have a lot of similarities.

[@vonshroom2068]

50 years. BSG is a tad older then the remake.

[@janneaalto3956]

Bittersweet memories. So many of that magnificent cast have since passed away.

[@lillyanneserrelio2187]

Yeah and its a good 30 years NEWER than Star Trek the original series - Kirk is still alive because Khan failed 😄

[@CanuckWolfman]

Some say that General Hague *wasn't* actually killed while fighting against Clark Loyalist forces. Instead, they claim that he was arrested on Earth while trying to lead a coup of his own by one Captain Benjamin Lafayette Sisko.

[@MacsLore]

Hague just does not have luck with coups in any universe.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

And some say he also failed a group named CADMUS and a Kryptonian clone named Galatea in their campaign against a Justice League Unlimited.

[@alanmike6883]

Some say that he Is still out there. That he didn't die because his agent double booked him 😅

[@omganotherun]

Right in the nostalgia. B5 was so good.

[@randlebrowne2048]

I'm both looking forward to, and afraid of, the reboot series that is trying to get off the ground now.

[@omganotherun]

@@randlebrowne2048 Whatever happens, we can take some small comfort in the fact that Deep Space 9 had to pay an out of court settlement to Babylon 5 back in the day.

[@PY5RA]

@@omganotherun Wait, really ? What for ?

[@omganotherun]

@@PY5RA J. Michael Straczynski, the man behind B5, pitched the idea for a space station setting for Star Trek to Paramount with the whole long war arc and everything, they rejected his pitch so JMS went and made the show himself with B5. Paramount started producing DS9 at the same time, resulting in "Bruh."

[@VulpisFoxfire]

@@randlebrowne2048 Really...given that so many of the key actors that made it so great have passed away. :-/

[@Synthonym]

Sheridan personally kicking the shit out of the fascist Earthgov was the absolute peak of Babylon 5. Ivanova I imagine felt the same way

[@darwinjina]

and, yet, it rose again years later. sad

[@bonglesnodkins329]

It's nice of the President to issue his martial law directive using the Serpentine typeface - the same one used in the show's titles. Excellent choice, Clark.

[@Synthonym]

10:30 my only critique of this whole video is that you showed the Shadow battleship exploding rather than the insect-like curling of it's spars when it was killed

[@PY5RA]

I imagine one would rig the ship with skeleton like you would animate a character... but do very very bad weight-paint on it, then have fun with it imploding when you try to animate it.

[@acarrillo8277]

I deeply love the B5 story and show but this is one of the things that bugged me over the years. Clark would never have been on EF1. For security reasons a Vice President and President travel on different transports.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Of course, leadership protocols of just one nation may not be that similar to a spacefaring UN.

[@CountAdolfo]

a mistake by JMS. They are rare.

[@Diarmuhnd]

One of my favorite sci fi shows of all time. And i've been watching them since the 70's *Thanks for this Babylon 5 Lore Video.*

[@erictaylor5462]

When you say, "Do not force us to engage your ships" And they respond with, "Why not?"

[@SapphireCrusader1988]

11:58 Prince Alexander of Daventry. Hell of an easter egg.

[@arugulatarsus]

I cannot think of a better way to kick off a Wednesday evening.

[@Brendan1259]

Now we need the shadow war and the liberation of earth next, great work.

[@captainyossarian388]

"...we will remain an independent state until President Clark is removed from office." Goosebumps, and again when Delenn tells the Clark ships to get lost.

[@blbatled1]

God is this glorious! If only they would redo the show like this. Your channel is just so amazing covering the great sci-fi stories.

[@bobstorr4986]

JMS has plans for a reboot, it got caught up in the WB/discovery merger and again with the paramount merger.

[@blbatled1]

@@bobstorr4986 I hope something comes of all that.

[@raxsavvage]

the speech by delene on guarding B5 is easily one of the most badass speeches, just ever

[@greycoven4479]

Enjoyed the jokes sprinkled throughout, narration stayed serious which made the jokes funnier when they showed up.

[@TexasRy]

B5 was The Bomb, loved this show, was so ahead of its time, had great graphics and the storylines were GREAT! I think I need to go back and re-watch this and now that I'm an adult, I don't think I paid much attention to Nightwatch and what that really means! Strange how this subject, when not knowing much about the world, means so much more know, regarding government spies and people "snitching" on each other. I was so interested in the Mbari religion and how all the main characters were locked in a forever war but eventually all came around!

[@alexandermaclean257]

That sultry Canadian voice gets me everytime. God I love Mac's Lore

[@dcsblessedbees]

😁Never missed an episode of this, B5 ranks up there with the other Great Space Operas.👏Thanks much

[@nefariousgremlin7554]

hell yeah, more lore! Battlestar galactica (2003) lore next please, I would LOVE to see a video like this about the first cylon war

[@jasonrhodes9726]

Why? Did it turn out that every human was, in fact, a Cylon?

[@alfredaflatooni]

Amazing work, highly impressed!

[@MacsLore]

And your support on Patreon helps make it happen. Thank you truly, as always

[@LancelotChan]

Thanks for the story!!!! I was a fan of the series but back then I couldn't understand all the back story going on. With you video now I do. Thanks a lot!

[@VulpisFoxfire]

Heh. I always say that B5 is a series you need to watch end to end at least three times to get most of the story...the first time to get the main story, the second time to catch all the build-up, setup, and foreshadowing (there's some things in there that get set up and take literal *years* to pay off), and a third time to get all the background setups and foreshadowing that you missed the first two times.

[@Petrosman]

This is just such a good edit. Nice CGI additions. Does justice to B5, it deserves more stuff like this. The Earth-Minbari war was also a great edit. Keep up the good work.

[@coreytran7415]

You’re always the biggest blessing in the world when you post your videos

[@kodiak_qp614]

I miss B5. Might watch it again. Very sad that almost everyone died that was in that show.

[@MacsLore]

"To absent friends, in memory still bright."

[@ommadawn8434]

Still one of the best SciFi series ever made. I pray they never try to reboot it.

[@randlebrowne2048]

@@ommadawn8434 I just hope that they disinfect Hollywood of the woke mind-virus before they do reboot it (the original showrunner is actively working on shopping scripts around for a pilot).

[@catprog]

@@randlebrowne2048 Woke is just a word people use who don't understand the real problem. The writers today think that just because a character is minority that is all that is needed. You need characters that are not defined by being the minority but something else.

[@randlebrowne2048]

@catprog Woke is reflexively parroting the currently prevailing progressive party line in a cult-like manner to avoid social ostrizization. Because that party line is ever shifting, the woke live in constant terror of becoming tomorrow's "facists". They will sacrifice anything, and anyone, to avoid being cast out from the cult.

[@alexhurlbut]

Love your video as I am in middle of rewatching Babylon 5 on Tubbi. Its a shame we will never get to see the Omegas fire their broadside missiles in anger as their designer intended (these are the red tubes you see on their sides)

[@randlebrowne2048]

If the reboot (by the same showrunner) ever actually gets off the ground, we might just see it yet!

[@PY5RA]

Broadside missiles ?? Sounds pretty wild.

[@alexhurlbut]

@@PY5RA yep. look up B5 Scrolls. Click on The Ships, then Earthforce and the first page has the designer notes on omega.

[@alexhurlbut]

@@PY5RA KZbin deleted my comment replying to you because I named (not site address, the site name) a site that has the designer notes. Stupid of KZbin.

[@Gpz0]

Great video, can't wait to watch more!

[@christophersims7060]

Nicely done, RIP the dear departed. Many lessons for today's world.

[@steve86sabas]

Another banger video @MacsLore thanks for the work!

[@Manta1015]

It's been weeks, and it seems that nobody's noticed the Alexander portrait -- from King's Quest VI. Hilarious, but also phenomenal stuff as always.

[@Emanon...]

Great work on the look and feel. Gives it a "documentary" feel. It must've taken immense time and effort. Just know it's very appreciated.

[@Falchion1984]

I’d like to reiterate my suggestion that your next video be about Operation: Grain Snatch from the first X-Wing game.

[@MacsLore]

All things, in due time, of course.

[@Falchion1984]

@@MacsLore I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.

[@PY5RA]

....... Now that you mention it, I actually would love to see a somewhat animated summary of the X-Wing book series as well. Disney the coward abandoned their X-Wing project.

[@Falchion1984]

@@PY5RA Disappointing, but hardly surprising. Still, that IS a good suggestion.

[@msvaughan]

I have been a fan of B5 since it was first broadcast in the UK. Its one of those multi season stories that I admire and wished other Sci-Fi series were like this.

[@roguerifter9724]

A nice video but one detail you got off. Its never said how many Destroyers joined the initial rebellion or how many were shot down. It says four of five Cruisers that defected with Hague were shot down. In the Earth Alliance Cruisers are a separate smaller type of warship from Destroyers. The most common EA Cruiser seen in the series for example is the Hyperion class which a little over 1,000 meters long while an Omega is more then 1,700 meters long

[@nemz7505]

Still the best TV scifi show, with such memorable characters - nice work Mac!

[@warhawk4494]

Great work @MacsLore. This looked great and was awesome. Getting the ship models makes this a notch above the rest in quality.

[@MacsLore]

It's also a good way to go insane as a one-man dev team, but I certainly can't argue with the results.

[@warhawk4494]

@@MacsLore that it man. As a one man creator you need all the help you can get.

[@davesobani9565]

Still one of the best interconnected sci fi series ever. One could only dream what would have happened if Star Trek Enterprise was given the go ahead with J.Michal Straczynski

[@yukikaze-117]

I love the eas churchill had a Darjeeling emblem

[@michaelkenny7314]

Mac.... Is that. Prince Alexander of Daventry on the Alexander? You mad bastard.

[@seihai-kun6726]

Really appreciate the B5 content. Can't wait to see more. Subscribed.

[@GlitchSystem-xf7jb]

Man I love Babylon 5. This show needs much needed updating thow. Not with the story but with the graphics. Awesome video. We live for the one. We die for the one

[@bobstorr4986]

The story is excellent and it’s amazing what they did at the time with the budget they had. Imagine what this show would be like with a big budget from Netflix or Amazon.

[@vonshroom2068]

Eh, B5's 3d graphics is very lucky for the day. If it was a few years prior or later it would have looked way more dated and terrible. If only the origional toaster frames were saved it could have had an easy remaster unlike with any of the graphics prior or later since they were hand drawn and generated. The only terrible scenes are starfury cockpit scenes and the infamous Londo* Narn homeworld* bombardment zoom out on higher resolutions. It simply suffers from the same issues as Startrek TNG as it was filmed for home video and not the bigscreen with only 10% of the budget DS9 had per episode.

[@Kopiati]

Great work with the video!

[@wongkahtong6395]

You need to do the narn-centauri war or shadow war

[@MH5XXXX]

This was a very well made video. Thank you

[@tarn1135]

I’m impressed with your editing, storytelling and animation work on this video. I’m in for the subscription. Cheers.

[@kyledavid17]

Awesome content and video. Well done!

[@SgtJamesRay]

Outstanding documentary ❤

[@CountAdolfo]

VERY well done video

[@lemmingt6207]

i miss this show. great job

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

The episode where they succeded was THE moment wherebBabylon 5 started its real legacy.

[@alanmike6883]

Thank you Mac. Because I love Babylon 5 😊👍

[@bobmcboberton5322]

Very well done! Your video has me thinking of rewatching B5 for the 8th time.

[@Fenris77]

Awesome video. Loved B5 and thise Lore video just reignited my memory of among the absolute BEST saci fi shows ever. Seeing the rise of the Clark regime makes me think of how "by the book" another dictator has taken power in another nation right here in our reality...

[@marginallyinteresting]

Prince Alexander! Nice Easter egg.

[@MacsLore]

THANK YOU! I was wondering if the overlap between Kings Quest & B5 fans was enough for someone to get it.

[@marginallyinteresting]

@@MacsLore Yes, sir! Thanks for the work you're doing.

[@power2084]

Very, very well done.

[@zainredding3476]

Good work.

[@thejaredmyers]

yay more B5 content! love!

[@Hardcover_Pilot]

This is still one of my favorite shows of all time.

[@bartlester591]

Babylon 5 has become one of my favorite Science Fiction series. It hasn’t been tainted with.WOKENESS . And I would love it. If you would do more B5 stuff there’s not much that I don’t know I own all of it seriously I own all five seasons I own all of the movies I own Crusade only one that I have not seen yet. Is the Animated the road home I hope to see soon. But another words, I know B5 and I love your style.

[@vonshroom2068]

The nightwatch was an allegory for any fashist movement and how insidious it seepes in to society. B5 didn't stooped to "space nazism" but an more organic universal totalitarian movement which has yet to be rivaled by any contemporary shows as they always devolve to space nazism. From mid season 2 to mid season 3 it really shows how uncomfortable but inevitable it is for those on the B5 security team to go along with it or be labled a traitor.

[@joanmoriarity8738]

You know Delenn is trans, right?

[@ChristopherWheat-ig7fl]

B5 is still the best of all the sci-fi series kof the 80s 🤟😎

[@travisbishop782]

Problem with that statement, it came out in the '90s.

[@bigpoppa5059]

Stunning.

[@stratometal]

This is one awesome video. I really hope that the creator of B5 can somehow manage to make more content or remake this fantastic series.

[@JustinKase1969]

This was really the best sci-fi show out there. Such a good story, so many amazing characters. It is a shame the the network kept f'ing with them.

[@HawkShark]

Your best video yet! Give us more B5 content! PS: More Homeworld and Star Trek would be nice too :D

[@dc-4ever201]

Really well done, I especially loved the meme poster "STFU Alien Lovers" 😂.

[@OmegablueWolf]

I really do love Severed Dreams so much, its such a good episode.

[@Tyrannocentus]

Well done.

[@ycplum7062]

The Shadow vessel immediately sensed the Vorlon technology in the White Star and attacked from instinct. After first destroying what was "holding it prisoner", Ganymede base. lol

[@shadows.82]

Another good video, Whitestar please.

[@MacsLore]

Hey, now theres an idea.

[@shadows.82]

@@MacsLore Thank you.

[@Knight860]

Great Video! Are you going to do videos on the Shadow War and Earth Alliance Civil War?

[@Sparafucile-kg5hz]

Amazing work as always! So...when are you gonna dio your toe into Battletech? Noone is really doing the fighters and spacecraft from the setting. It'd be right up your alley!

[@exidy-yt]

Excellent summary of one of the most interesting stories within the saga of Babylon 5! A shame you got a BS copyright strike, clearly every bit of this video is for discussion, and much of it transformative. Fight the strike, it will drop off.

[@StuartistStudio1964]

One thing; Nightwatch's orders didn't come from thrme President's Office. As Commander in Chief, that would have been through the Chain of Command. Their orders came from The Ministry of Peace, a branch of Clark's Political Office, thus outside of the Chain of Command.

[@cgibbons881]

This was a good summation of the B5 storyline. Long live 90's SciFi TV Shows.

[@mr.s2005]

man, Earth Forces only had to take one look at those ships...and hear Delinn's threat to run like the wind. So much for that Senator's claim the Earth forces could take on the Minbri

[@centrist1008]

This was a great series. Sometimes predictable, but still deep and thought provoking.

[@stevenewman1393]

👌😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly well done in every detail way shape and format provided indeed Sir!, And I myself still own the entire DVD collection and all the various made for cable movies plus the most recent animated one of Babylon 5 which is still one of the greatest series ever made indeed!...

[@viperleader001]

I love this show!!!!

[@willk8717]

Be somewhere else. One of the best moments in TV for me.

[@DaveNarn]

Kudos, that's a lot of wok - nice job

[@PulsefiredGaming]

Hot damn this was good

[@Reaper2004]

Hope you do a vid about the Earth Alliance Civil War

[@ThatMooCow]

Absolutely fantastic! More B5! Damnit, take my money and give me more B5!

[@S1337theoddoneout-ip9xc]

where did you get those 3D renders? tell me there is a "babylon 5 online" somewhere. Can't wait for you to dive in into B5 lore, Your narration, as per usual, great!

[@litlclutch]

Well I hope you're happy... I'm going to have to go rewatch all of Babylon 5 now... on the other hand, Thanks I'm going to go rewatch all of Babylon 5 now... Have a good day!

[@RobTheSquire]

To live and Die in Starlight.

[@kain4213]

excellent.

[@richardsavoie2857]

Nice transcript and good reading.

[@MrLuu-iw6wr]

LETS GOO

[@45580677]

Yay more please

[@bonglesnodkins329]

One thing that really bugs me is when media journalists write articles about the rise of long story arc television, displacing the previous overwhelming preference for stories told in a single episode (with the occasional two-parter). They will rattle on about The Sopranos, or The West Wing, or Murder One. They will hardly ever mention Babylon Five, even though it predated all of them and was more ambitious in its long-form plotting than any of them. It's hard to know whether this is driven primarily by genre snobbery or by sheer ignorance.

[@warrenreid6109]

I would like for you to do that video on Sheridan.

[@cernstormrunner7263]

21:27 that pic of Marcus omg