The Narn Fleet Analysis | Babylon 5 Ships

[@KertaDrake]

I do believe there's a Centauri joke about this. I believe it goes "What Narn fleet?"

[@MikeCloud666]

Funnies joke during day of Londo coronation

[@watcherzero5256]

The person who created these extra designs for the role playing books was obviously a big fan of the Kilrathi.

[@chriscyphercat]

Why do you think that?

[@Brendan_Greyloch]

Lol, I always thought that.

[@SandsOfArrakis]

@@chriscyphercat designs look very similar to the Kilrathi ships from the Wing Commander games.

[@brandonwachter2264]

Ahhh. Wing Commander, with joystick paddle. Those were the days 😉😁

[@kenwaid8239]

That one minute for missile lock, is one of the longest minutes of your life.

[@patricknakasone9376]

The Narn had a maniacal drive to go after the Centari. The other races where happy to just free themselves and then rebuild.

[@krzosu]

Narns were quite vindictive and since they were brutalised by the Centauri by over a century they had plenty of resons to be vindictive about and quite frankly centauri deserved that ire.

[@elcowabungahe-man6156]

Love the Narn ship design

[@Sasuke81a]

I love the Narns, I find they're an interesting culture. Plus I love how G'Kar compares Narn cuisine to Earth cuisine as he enjoys the Swedish Meatballs. Plus I found his roast mouthwatering as he was preparing for supper as he sang.

[@SantomPh]

We have to bear in mind that G'Kar is an eccentric person and one of high status in the Narn culture, so he is perhaps not the complete picture of the typical Narn. Remember the scene when the younger Narn asks him "what have you endured?". They are crowing, happy that the hated enemy has left, baying for blood while he is silent in thought.

[@DavidKnowles0]

@@SantomPh G'Kar is the future of the Narns species and what they were before the Centeuri war and attempted genocide of the Narn species. I always like to think G'Kar eventually accepted that he was the leader the Narn needed and lose his fear that leadership would corrupt him.

[@COMPLAINS_NOT_CHANGE_ANYTHING]

I wonder if all scifi in same universe Maybe he would had friendly rivalry with Worf

[@krzosu]

@@SantomPh i would say he evolved much through the series - at first he was ruthless and vicious even devious - and hellbent on making centauri pay - basically he was warmongerer - then when the war started and the losses started to mount he was desperate for victory despite overwhelming odds - then the fall happened and subjugation yet again - and then the liberation - at each of these stages he was changing - so i would agree he is not a typical narn - he had way too much exposure to things the other narns didnt even cared to be exposed so his perspective was quite unique - which was good becasue he wasnt stuck in the past and anger like most Narns were.

[@tjs114]

The thing I remember most from B5 when it aired and JMS would actually hold discussions with the fans was that Narn ships were always far more 'advanced' looking than they actually were. None of the Narn ships had artificial gravity, even the largest cruisers, so people were always strapped in. The ships were slow because their ship engines were inefficient and the weapons were limited because the power systems couldn't handle the loads.

[@Meatisfood]

I remember reading from somewhere that the paint job of G'Quan class by narns, were meant to give organic(more advanced) look.

[@SantomPh]

Artificial gravity is more of a choice than a technological status. Earth used centrifuges despite being high tech in all other aspects, while ships like the Brakhiri and Sunhawks also do not use artificial gravity.

[@Meatisfood]

@@SantomPh Earth did not have AG without rotation until Minbari gave the tech.

[@jonreese7066]

@@SantomPh centrifuges are a big target. artificial gravity is a point of tech status centrifuges are the most primitive level of AG. It is massive and clunky and an obvious targey for attack. The Mimbari can generate it with a device that Delenn had on her finger. Enough stress Gkar during the pilot. Imagine using that tech in combat. Every species in B5 universe had homeworlds with gravity. Thats what the crews are more comfortable with. Mimbari and Centauri are the only ones who have it. Having no AG means crews need more training to compensate, medical treatment to combat issues arising from no gravity and more R and R between long voyages.

[@DavidKnowles0]

​@@Meatisfood I think the lore is that the Earth was pretty close to producing it and the next generation of ships was design to have AG when it was perfected. Sheridan and Delenn gift meant earth didn't need to expend resources perfecting the technology. I'm guessing the Narns were thinking along similar lines as earth. Build the ships suitable for gravity and retrofit later on. People always forget how long even today military ships stay in service, carriers easily have a 50 years life expectancy. Other smaller ships 30 years plus.

[@matthewjay660]

UTOPIAN BROADCAST! Brother, it's almost like you're my personal genie 🧞‍♂️! I wished and you granted! THANK-YOU SO FRIKKIN' much for giving us the NARNS! 👊🏻✊🏻💪🏻

[@RandyBaumery-s4i]

I love the Narn ships color patterns.

[@Phil-D83]

Their capital ships were generally well armed. Larger ones lacked maneuverability, and had aweful firing angles.

[@theuglyone3264]

Not to mention no gravity

[@elfhighmage8240]

In the Babylon-5 Wars game system, the Narn ships were drastically UNDERGUNNED! Not to mention average sensors, average gunnery systems, low anti-fighter weapons, mediocre fighter bays, lackluster fighters, and no defenses like jammers or interceptors. But damn! They could sure take a ton of damage.

[@jasonscottjenkins]

I still wish that the G'Tok had shown up at B5's independence battle. Showing up just in time to save them from the first assault wave. It would have been a boss move

[@Exodianecross1978]

I'm afraid that the G'Tok would have been destroyed in that case, the Narn are on the same level like Earth. The Churchill was destroyed, you remember?

[@jasonscottjenkins]

@@Exodianecross1978 Have a little imagination.

[@michelecastellotti9172]

G'quan would've been better suited for that scene.

[@michelecastellotti9172]

@@Exodianecross1978 i mean, true that, but a G'quan could take on a primus and win so it has an excellent fighting chance against the Omega class destroyer

[@Exodianecross1978]

@@michelecastellotti9172 I agree that a G'Quan could have given a very good fight, but one ship alone? When Delenn showed up with the Sharlins and the White Star it was clear that Earthforce couldn't win. I believe this Captain Drake had fired on a G'Quan without hesitation, knowing that they can beat this type of ship!

[@AnthonyDaFox]

I believe the Narns and Kilingons would have Looked upon each other Favorably

[@theuglyone3264]

I disagree because unlike the klingon battle isn't everything to narns

[@jdlech]

They would certainly respect each other's combat prowess. However, the Klingons would probably also respect the Centauri military for their effectiveness - but not their soldiers. Recall that the Centauri perfected the Roman style bureaucracy. To the point that it didn't even need leadership to run - often even more efficiently without leadership than with. Their military was no different. Thus, there were no "war heroes" in the Centauri military - just millions of cogs in a very big, very efficient machine. Every Klingon in the empire aspired to be a war hero - even their farmers and librarians.

[@COMPLAINS_NOT_CHANGE_ANYTHING]

I wonder what Vorlons and species 8472 relationship would be Borg and Shadow obviously..... ASSIMILATING each other Minbari and Vulcan definitely would be bestfriend since they had something in common

[@ogs_Boga1900]

Actually it will be the centauri and klingon, centauri killed the other sentient species on thier homework.

[@brentbartley6838]

A 200m long Narn Destroyer likely didn't have jump engines. The White Stars were over 400m long and were the smallest jump capable ships of the younger races when they were launched.

[@core3086]

Im not getting into a nerd-off but yes the cannon is that a jumpcapable ship is atleast 400m and that is IF its a Minbari-Vorlon hybrid. Considdering it's a Narn ship i find this claim to be extremely questionable.

[@Ishlacorrin]

You have to remember that half of the information this channel shows is from the old BTech tabletop game that added a lot of non canon designs. Under full canon that ship does not exist at all.

[@lukedudley5030]

Sorry to nerd it but...To be fair in the series they say its rare for a ship so small to be able to create its own jump point...they don't say its the only small ship that can do it just most won't expect it....especially when you consider how strong the white star is...small extremely fast and manouverable, hits like Tyson and can jump...making it deadly cant say the same about the narn destroyer.

[@SantomPh]

the White Stars were known to be unusual for their size and having jump engines.

[@patrickmoler8025]

Isn't it funny that White Stars are portrayed as small but are actually still massive by real world standards.

[@thelazy0ne]

Oh man, I thought this was an old video because.... Babylon 5... and I was looking for the rest of fleets... Please 😁 continue the series 😘

[@burstcity3832]

If you have any details about Loriens peoples ships that would be awesome but any would be good :-)

[@watcherzero5256]

Fun fact on the "T'Loth-class" (or "Narn Heavy Cruiser" as its called in the show) because the CGI artists were on a tight schedule they took a Star Destroyer clone they had already created as generic art assets for their NewTek 3d rendering software, flipped it on its side and mirrored it and stuck them together with a generic low poly bridging section. The G'Quan Class Heavy Cruiser is an updated 3d model and supposed to be the same ship.

[@UtopianBroadcast1]

I didn't know that!!!

[@greensoplenty6809]

if thats true maybe disney copied the big guns from the t loth for that new movie

[@descendinguniverse]

Didn`t know about full equality in their army. That`s a huge part of success for sure. It`s a pity we don`t see much of Narn ships on screen. I`d watch Bin-tak furiously attacking Sharlin cruiser😀

[@SantomPh]

The fact that only Sinclair/ Sheridan and G'Kar are the only ones seen with full time female aides says a lot

[@jonreese7066]

As compared to the Centauri with their noble houses.

[@MagnanimousEntropy]

One of the many reason i love Babylon 5 is the aesthetics of the ships used by the various races. You can look at a ship and most of the time, know instantly to which race it belongs. I always loved the Narn fleet, but i always felt a little disappointed that we never got to see more of their ships, specifically medium sized vessels. All we ever saw were capitol ships, fighters and transports. But i suppose this is true of many of the races in the show.

[@jeancaron9325]

I like it that each race gets their own ship designs.

[@mackgiver875]

When I saw the title "The Narn Fleet Analysis." My first thought was, gee, this is going to be a short analysis.

[@DavidKnowles0]

Then he use material from outside of the show to stretch out the video. In the show we only saw three different types of Narn vessel.

[@krzosu]

1:30 there is also the thing that a subordinate can challange his commander to a duel - thus taking his authoirty from him -it happened to G'Kar on B5 when one of the civilians tried to challenge his authority

[@argentaegis]

I think the Narn fleet is a missed storytelling opportunity. As most of their tech came from the Centauri, their ships, particularly weapons, should probably have echoed them a bit more. I think it could have helped drive the cycle of violence narative. That said, it all looks cool and the esthetic is good.

[@Thyinternet]

I always thought it was interesting, the parallels between the narns and earth weapons, the narns selling earth weapons during the e-m war, the sense that the narn weapons - and by extension the earth weapons - might reflect in some sense an earlier stage of centauri development, the centauri having since focused in a different more specific (almost exclusively pulse) direction, in contrast to the minbari, exclusively death rays.

[@argentaegis]

@@Thyinternet Yep. I get why Omegass and G'Quans have similar weaponry. I just don't get why there's not more Centauri influence in Narn weapons or design. Still, can't have everything.

[@SantomPh]

@@Thyinternet they didn't sell them Narn weapons , they were the brokers of the deal.

[@Thyinternet]

@@SantomPh oh yeah! I remember now

[@jonreese7066]

The narn tech came from the Centauri 50 years ago. That is enough time for them to split off. Besides the narn hatred would have made them want to separate from thw Centauri as much as possible.

[@shanenolan8252]

Thanks. Was looking forward this . Was rewatching the centari fleet last night

[@elfhighmage8240]

I used to play with Narns in B5 Wars. It was a challenge to win with them. The Narns were jack of all trades and masters of dying. My absolute favorite was the Bin'Tak. After a few years, I switched to the Kor-Lyans and was a happy man since.

[@dragdragon23]

the G'Quan is my favorite design from the show!

[@sardonicspartan9343]

Well, that and the massive help from the alliance.

[@mattwho81]

The Narn fleet was built on the doctrine of forcing large scale capital ship engagements. This resulted in a fleet that was mostly heavy cruisers with a handful of fighters. They never had anything to match the Centauri Vorchan or even human Hyperion. When war came they were picked apart by wolf packs of fast moving light cruisers. The Narn looked good but proved a paper tiger.

[@DavidKnowles0]

That wrong. In the show it was made clear the Narns were winning the war and pushing back the Centeuri before the intervention of the Shadows destroyed their fleets.

[@mattwho81]

@@DavidKnowles0the Shadows only intervened at Outpost 37 and to destroy the Narn counter-attack at Gotash 7. That fleet itself was stripped from homeworld defence as a last ditch effort to slow the Centauri advance. The show clearly shows Narn refugees fleeing through Babylon 5 from the Centauri war machine. Even without Shadow help the Centauri were winning.

[@ryanarment5393]

@@DavidKnowles0the centauri by in large in season 1 and until the formal declaration of war didn’t fight back. The narn also attacked soft targets such as the colony on ragesh 3. When the Centauri began to push back and attack the narn, the Centauri ships outgunned and outmaneuvered them in every engagement. The shadows attacks on quadrant 37 and gorash 7 were body blows to the narn regime, but the majority of the fighting was done by the centauri

[@johnparadox9429]

Does anyone else notice the similarity between the Gorith medium fighter and the Gunstar from The Last Starfighter?

[@kevinnazario1015]

The g' quan is a beautiful ship. As elegant as you could get.

[@arugulatarsus]

How about the kilrathi? I feel the Narn and Kilrahi have similar aesthetics.

[@SantomPh]

The Kilrathi have a greater variety of ships, a dominant culture and actually practical ships

[@PowerControl]

Thought the same!

[@Mysteries-revealed]

Those spotted heads where I where have I seen those spotted heads before?

[@elcowabungahe-man6156]

Thanks my favorite B5 specie's

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Great video...👍

[@UtopianBroadcast1]

Thanks for the visit

[@monangagustian3564]

"The Narn military place individual based on what they excel at. It's not uncommon lowborn Narn as officer and upper class Narn as common footsoldier." In other word idealistic Meritocracy. While Centauri is Macchiavellian Aristocracy. Yet Centauri triumphs over Narn numerous time, kinda sad isn't it.

[@aycemanm8151]

They only did due to the Shadows help, remember at the beginning of the series the Centauri were losing and or ceding territory to the Narns. This is what led Mollari to accept help from the Shadows, the situation where his Nephew was held hostage by the Centauri was an embarrassment to a conservative traditional Centauri like himself. The Centauri would have not went to war with Narn without the shadows involvement. Could have they won a war? Possibly yes but it would have cost them dearly.

[@mpittard21]

Also remember that the narn were agarian people when their world was invaded by the centauri. They lifted themselves to a space age civilisation in under two generations.

[@jonreese7066]

@@aycemanm8151 The Centauri were not loosing to the Narn. The Narn early successes in season 1 was because centauri emperor was a pacifist. The Narns only invasion on a centauri planet an agricultural world in the edge of their territory with the Narn. The Narn never liberated themselves from Centauri occupation both times the Centauri decided to leave Narn. When the war went hot after Cartagia took the throne the Narn lost 7 out of 8 major engagements with the Centauri. The Narns had a lot of disadvantages: 1. The narns may try to promote the most capable yo officers but doesnt matter if the recruits dont listen. During earth alliance assault on b5 Garibaldi planned to have his narn security force take position on a choke point to pin down the incoming gropos. The Narn force charged ahead and it engaged The narn had such a hate on the centauri they loose all sense. We saw a Narn fighter squadron charge Centauri capital ship task force in the sector the Shadows destroyed for them. 2. Narn had no telepaths 3. Narn were at a tech disadvatage. Narn say they captured Centauri tech but A. That tech was left behind 50 years ago. During times of peace the military budget is cut back and money devoted to research B. You think the Centauri would have left their top of the line equipment when they left? 4. Narn does not have the economy to fight the Centauri. After the Centauri left Narn the Narn had to rebuild, no not rebuild, build their forest and infrastructure that the Centauri devastated. In contrast the Centauri infrastructure was intact. The Shadows intervened against the Narn a few times and those attacks did weaken them but the Narn were in no position to beat the Centauri

[@aycemanm8151]

@@jonreese7066great reply i appreciate the detail . With the new reimagined series on the way we will likely get to see this war again and perhaps JMS will portray it in more detail, we will get to really see tactically where they both are. The Centauri I would say we're just below the Minbari in sheer power. If you saw the opening of the Lost Tales even though Earth's Warlocks took out some Vorchans with ease , some Warlocks were destroyed or damaged as well. The Narn like the Centauri were considered a dying race. Their hate led them to ruin, they focused on revenge instead on actually growing as a people this is something G'Kar realized. The character development of him and Mollari was my favorite thing about the series. The Centauri obviously were the British empire a race past it's prime. Obviously the Centauri would have one the war without the Shadows but at much more of a cost and time. With the new series we will see how JMS portrays this war again I hope the casting is good .

[@jonreese7066]

@@aycemanm8151 I keep my fingers cross about a new series. I dont know about Warlocks fighting Centauri ships but if Earth had Warlocks it would be a few years after the series. Meaning the Centauri were under the influence of the Drakh at that point. In the books the Centauri were infiltrated by the Drakh and help the Centauri rebuild and improve their tech. The drakh had a plan to get the Centauri to go to war against the ISA. They kidnapped Delenn and Sheridan. The plan was thwarted by Vir, Gkar and the technomages. As I underatand the gap between the Mimbari and Centauri were huge. The Centauri were only second because no one else came close. I think the Centauri could beat the Narn even without the help of the Shadows in any fleet engagement assuming they had a somewhat close in terms of numbers. Ground invasion though the Centauri would loose because every Narn will throw themselves at the invaders

[@Prain86]

Narn fightrers are so similar to Vaygr fleet of Homeworld2 game.

[@78.BANDIT]

I always thought their ships where cool looking.

[@ChatarraCrow]

I enjoy the concept of a warrior race sprouting from an agrarian race. Rome being a prime example. The Narn were coerced into becoming a warrior race, however.

[@lukedudley5030]

Their ships looks cool, are well armed but they don't carry many fighters....they struggle against races who depend on the aircraft carrier type ships...need more point defence too....ironically they lack what the centari have theyd do really well if they teamed up :-)

[@ryanarment5393]

They also are slow and lack maneuvering capabilities. Granted some of that might be offset by armor, but its been proven time and again that a pair of more maneuverable vorchan cruisers can rip a g’quan to shreds. To me it feels like the narns sacrifice everything for that opening knock out blow. They jump into a system, immediately lay down enough fire in the opening salvo to end the fight. If that doesn’t work then they tend to lose.

[@starhaven1881]

Narn ships always looked so fucking cool though. From the rule of cool they are some of the best.

[@PulsefiredGaming]

The Narn are my favorite B5 Race

[@Ithirahad]

Those G'Quan ships could give the SHADOWS(!!!!) a run for their money (albeit with heavy losses), if only the fighters were better and could actually contest space superiority against Shadow cluster swarms. I'd hazard a guess that an encounter with a Minbari/Drakh-level foe would have the same problem - if the G'Quans (G'Quanur? eh, whatever) could actually be brought to bear they could slice most things to pieces, but they'd just get swarmed and torn to shreds by those nasty, nasty fighters (e.g. Nial-class) before they could do their jobs.

[@mpittard21]

To be fair until we get the White Stars, Babylon 5 perfectly showed that those with more advanced tech beat the opponents EVERY time. Battle of the Line anyone?

[@Spacefrisian]

Peacekeepers from Farscape or the Zeon fleet from Gundam.

[@112steinway]

B5 was a fantastic example of storytelling through mechanics and design. Case in point: the Centauri were a more advanced race with better quality ships that had artificial gravity and weapons but were decadent and individually weak. Meanwhile the Narn weren't as advanced with ships that were slower and didn't have artificial gravity but were better armored and fought with a untied cause. Meanwhile, the humans occupied a nice middle ground, better armored but not as advanced as the Centauri while being faster but not as hard hitting as the Narn.

[@tahu1349]

Never saw a narn ship win a battle

[@shanenolan8252]

I thought there was a smaller dreadnaut version of the narn heavy cruiser. Same design silhouette. Just smaller, the mimbari appears to have done something similar with there cruisers like an escort version.

[@UtopianBroadcast1]

I found are multiple version of the dreadnought through my research with different sizes but I personally choose the bigger version.

[@shanenolan8252]

@@UtopianBroadcast1 yes interesting. Im not really familiar with the one you choose. Which was cool btw

[@SardonicALLY]

The first Centauri invasion was a terrible scar on the psyche of the once peaceful and agrarian Narn race. The technology they acquired from the Centauri enabled them to jump to the stars as a strong and determined force. Ironically, the second Centauri invasion may have saved the Narn... I get the feeling they have learned a valuable lesson and will reclaim their cultural roots. This will save them from their previous destructive path.

[@ryanarment5393]

I think they will continue to hone and prioritize their warrior traditions since they will want to ensure that they are never subjected to the horrors the centauri put them through. That being said i think they will beul less provocative, more cautious, and willing to cultivate alliances

[@DavidKnowles0]

No it not the second war that did that, it was G'Kar and his preaching of new ideas. I like to think that now they are under the protection of the Rangers this new philosophy was allowed to flourish. Narns rebuilt themselves and their civilisation and defied Vorlon prediction that they were a dead race. I would like to think Cotto manage to do the same for the Centeuri.

[@SardonicALLY]

@@DavidKnowles0 Chicken and egg mate. G'Kar learned from the events I specified. End.

[@StarshipEternity]

Their are a lot of universes to talk about, too many if counting even alternative timelines they have too. Interesting you've been going about it with entire fleets and not a single ship. So I recommend an older franchise; Buck Rodgers. The original series strips had some fascinating rocketship designs.

[@JCinLapel]

I Don think the Narn are one of the newest of the Young races but one of the oldest and suffered a huge loss having sided with the shadow in the same war as the Minbari. I believe the vorlon seeded telepaths in all the races which made the shadows turn to other race to protect there living ships. Because of the Book of GQuan i think GQuan was a one of 2 things first an aerospace engineer that helped the shadows or more likely leader of the telepaths of Narn and they shielded the minds of the ship. Once GQuan was the shadow were doing what they do to the people in the ships he betrayed them. They blasted Narn back to the stone age and over the generations telepath died out of the race because the Narn feared the shadows return

[@Zagoreni02A]

Next should be Earth Alliance fleet.

[@elcowabungahe-man6156]

The Gquan Heavy Cruiser

[@AAron-gr3jk]

I live bb5. An obscure TV show on scifi channel. I was young. Nostalgia is a bitch

[@PulsefiredGaming]

The main strength of the Sharlin is its stealth ECM, if a bintak could target it im sure it could fuck it up. after all the Earthforce did damage to sharlin during first contact.

[@epyon1983]

To be fair they wasn't at war at the time

[@Ishlacorrin]

That was at very close range and using Plasma Cannons, a LOT of plasma cannons. Any ship is going to take a beating from that.

[@Ishlacorrin]

I should also point out that the Bin'Tak is an odd design lore wise. It was built before the Narn-Centauri war, but only just. Only two of the eight built survived the war in bad shape. They were refitted AFTER the ISA was formed and thus incorporated a lot of newer tech. The newer version has gravimetric drives and 3/5 Narn gravity on board. It's also much more heavily armed than the version shown in this video. Weapons on the newer and more modern versions are as follows "2 Ultra-Heavy Particle Lasers, 12 Heavy Particle Lasers, 2 Energy Mine Launcher, 60 Plasma Pulse Cannons (point defence)" Those two main guns are said to each have the same yield as the Earth G.O.D. defence grid platforms. Thus each could take out the entire eastern seaboard of the USA in one shot. The 12 particle lasers are the same type as the main guns on G-Quan class, though it's likely those have improved since they joined the ISA as well.

[@richardbradley2335]

Arrange your vids into playlist please

[@Paleorunner2]

Something that confuses me within the B5 universe is the term destroyer. On earth a destroyer is light warship but in B5 it seems the destroyers are the biggest ships. Look at the Omega and Victory class.

[@maxrander0101]

they changed over time like they do in our real world the size and weapon configs changed to reflect the tech of the time the earth Alliance had the smallest ships in these classes as they were the newest race in the galaxy to join the galactic community this means there ships use the earth navy classes so the largest would be the battleship which the Omega was the ship of that class but was classed as a heavy Destroyer due to the way it was armed and dont forget most of the earth Alliances ships were destroyed in the Minbari and dilgar wars by the time the show is set they are only reaching half their old strength and have redesigned most of their ships

[@Paleorunner2]

@@maxrander0101 Thank you!

[@philvanderlaan5942]

The destroyer can not have a jump engine as Sheridan suckered a shadow vessel by activating a white star’s jump engine inside a jump gate stating that no other ship that size has a jump engine, and that the white star is a little over twice the size of the narn destroyer.

[@TheBigExclusive]

It seems like the Narn have almost completely built their economy around their military and ship construction. And that's the reason why they were able to build such a large space fleet in a short time span. However, the Narn sacrificed other parts of their society and economy to do it. The Narn went "all in" on Military construction. Meanwhile the other races have a more robust and diverse economies. The Centauri, the Earth Force, etc all have adaptable economies. Not everything is dedicated to military construction. So there is room in reserve if they need to adapt. Meanwhile The Narn military may seem fierce, but they are extremely weak in other areas of their society. For example, I would say their agriculture, and medical technology is probably severely lacking compared to other races. And if their military is defeated, they don't have much else economically to rely on.

[@jonreese7066]

I was rewatching and realized something. In one episode Londo was comenting on how there was a famine in the narn homeworld to Gkar. Gkar retorted that it was because the Centauri strip mined resources from them Londo hit back that it was because Narn focused on the Narn war machine. This was in the same season as the Narn invasion of Ragesh 3 a Centauri agricultural colony. So Narn invaded a farming world but they still had a famine.

[@dracthewanderer6871]

@@jonreese7066 They probably invaded due a projected famine and it might have been already hushed ongoing thing.

[@jonreese7066]

@@dracthewanderer6871 oh most likely either it was happening or soon to happen. I only realized it recently even though I watched it years ago.

[@DavidKnowles0]

That didn't stop them from kicking the Centauri arses. Until the Shadows intervened.

[@DavidKnowles0]

@@jonreese7066 Londo and Gkar were both speaking the truth.

[@khyronkravshera7774]

My son’s middle name is G’Kar

[@UtopianBroadcast1]

Great middle name

[@martindevon3204]

🤦

[@origami83]

During the show i almost felt sympathy for the narns but they were just as bad as the centauri. I really like the storyarc their race went through. I hope we get to see some of these ships in the new show and that the Narns are shown as fierce and badass as they deserve!

[@huntergratzner1]

I kinda felt more bad for the Narn because they were enslaved and brutalized, while the Centauri had a history of genocide going back to pre-space flight days. Remember what the last Xon said.

[@origami83]

@@huntergratzner1 AAARGH! or something like that haha! But yeah the Narn got dealt a bad hand but they were turning out just as brutal as the Centauri. If the shadows didnt screw the Narns over it would have been the Narn doing the enslavement and brutalizing.

[@DavidKnowles0]

@@huntergratzner1 The centeuri were basically Nazi's.

[@JeffreyTappan-bb8rr]

Kilingon?

[@hanshawks5088]

Wrong show

[@Alphasiera1701]

There's no way a Narn ship only 200 meters in length has a jump engine. Not a chance.

[@deanooooooo6496]

Babylon5 Wars the tabletop strategy game, your images and ship names are all from that game, you should credit the creators.

[@JM-rn8zm]

No way known it would damage a Mina to cruiser

[@nemo99nemo83]

a 200m ship with jump engines? the white stars are bigger and are canonically the smallest ship build with its own jump engines...

[@Ishlacorrin]

That information is from B5 Wars and is not considered canon by most. They licenced the IP to create a tabletop wargame and as such had odd new designs and things that did not fit canon because of their rule requirements.

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

I think it's funny how they brought their destruction on themselves then the show paints them as the victim

[@tsm688]

you think the centauri wouldn't have attacked without provocation? you missed the point. neither of them were saints.

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

@@tsm688 they MIGHT have done something but the Narn DID start this round of violence. The centari might have just turned in on it self and slowly withered with out an enemy to fight

[@richardbradley2335]

Lots of those ships look like theyve had Shadow influence......4.39..mmmmm

[@Meatisfood]

Var'nic has jump engines? Ship that small?

[@Cyberpuppy63]

Aussies need a bigger Patron. I can understand why they have fuzzy feelings for the Narn.

[@kryptonitegaming7552]

Battlestar Galactica

[@Kirkmaximus]

The owners of this show made a huge blunder by not creating or licensing another company to make a "Freelancer" type game based off this universe. It would of had major sales and almost limitless means of storytelling.

[@1926PlovdivCity]

666 likes a devilish score :) . Another great video

[@shanenolan8252]

The narn ate a bit like Yugoslavia in ww2 .( only country conquered by the nazis that succeeded in driving them out on there own . Resistance then convention military)

[@TGamesnja]

the Narn lose the war against the centauri, even bevor the sadows destroy there fleet. They are mutch weaker

[@ganados0]

They were a paper tiger and their nationalism rendered them dull and stupid.

[@TGamesnja]

@@ganados0 yes they are Like north Korea. Cant feet there people but dangerous

[@shaunos75]

G'Quanis the best

[@mattmmilli8287]

Poor Narns got fucked up 😂

[@brianstewart23]

The Narn ships were second rate technologically, which is why they embellished them with the aggressive color schemes. The puffer fish strategy to make themselves appear more intimidating.

[@F40PH-2CAT]

Cannon fodder. /video

[@Mysteries-revealed]

People of Narnia 😂

[@KallenSC]

Particle Cannons aren't the same lasers...Laser is Photon base weapon, Particle cannon is based on Heavy Ions!

[@potatoebugz6310]

STOP! Just realized this has nothing to do with "Star Trek".

[@peachesrambo4037]

The narn fleet was a joke