Baccarat Strategy Second Banker Practice w Real Cards | Does it win?

[@genessis43]

Best system I’ve seen so far... it’s a slow system but it makes sense & it isn’t too risky like martingale.

[@wentaowang2174]

Anytime someone describes Martingale as risky, it shows that they have a short sighted understanding of Odds. Odds is probability and payout ratio. If you play using Martingale even a bust will give you a minimal loss because those fractional wins will cover most of them. With flat betting, you don't have flexibility but Martingale gives you flexibility because you can accumulate fractional wins with substantial probability.

[@achrafsalimi-np9js]

​@@wentaowang2174 worst case martingale is way worst than worst case in this system, end of the story, martingale is riskier unless your stack is big enough to cover alot of consecutive losses

[@nprd8393]

Players who doubles down only when losing will always be losers if u really want to win double down when u win ur hand and keep the bet to minimum when u lose

[@craftyha]

I wait for 2 bankers then bet player. If another banker ends up coming in I double up ONCE ON PLAYER . If I lose I'll wait out for 2 bankers .

[@itzamia]

Have you still been playing this strategy? If so, has it still been working out for you?

[@nqi87]

what’s the reasoning behind waiting for a player streak to end? is it because the likelihood of player winning again or another streak right afterwards is lower?

[@dirtyfunk2368]

I would tweak it and use either 2nd banker or 2nd player to speed things up. (whatever comes first. Probably use a betting strategy that when I get the win i leave the table (online). Rinse and repeat)

[@Kathy-20J-73]

Yes... . Maybe... Or swap too 2nd player. If it's a player shoe 🥱🤔

[@nprd8393]

There is never a rule of winning in baccarat but if u look closely and read the outcomes u win like in this video if u can bet in player as banker comes u win and to all the players a game is to be played either 1st half or only 2nd half if u keep on playing all the sho u definitely gona lose write it down

[@nprd8393]

Set ur limit of winning b4 u play and always set ur limit in losing aswell overall at last we need to win.. Dont see the game see the end of the game

[@chesscannonball7572]

Baccarat has the ability to bet either side. Craps allows this also with passline don't pass. I feel that the best way to play these two games is ride the streaks. Wait for 3 wins and then jump aboard for as long as it goes. This will avoid the noise/chop. You can play a Martindale during the chop so you don't get board, but once the 3 in a row comes you jump aboard even if you just lost 3 in a row betting against. (Dump the martingale) This has potential to make money during chop and big win with a hot streak. The pattern that kills us is if there is a lot of 3 in a rows and then switches. But then again it is only half the time when the Martindale goes against you, the other half you win be winning.

[@SportsBuffoons]

This is my exact system as well for which side to bet, but I use the ladder betting unit system. It's guaranteed to work, just requires bankroll to withstand the occasional consecutive losses. It's a fun one. I sit out the chops, but after 3 in a row I jump on and hope for a streak of 7+

[@khalilgibran1525]

A system to play at the Baccarat stadium. On a real table, 30 minutes not betting

[@NatashaEstrada]

Yeah I'm not sure they'd let you keep on sitting at the table and not play.

[@tuongcai6535]

i love this strategy. i win 120 using this system. thanks

[@raylatham7224]

GOOD!! info. Im new to baccarat and your details were EXCELLENT!! while watching your video I paused & logged into my live account. WON which is the most positive thing and was ahead from where my balance started. THATS all that matters. WAS AHEAD!! I will watch more of your videos. You are a GREAT TEACHER!! God bless.

[@Mister_Rafael]

I appreciate your comment, Ray! Thanks! Welcome to my channel 🤛

[@dannyswan0177]

Don't play baccarat.. No strategy can win the system. Because.. They can setting you lose and win.. Believe me..

[@cryptomikey2660]

@@dannyswan0177 thats why you play 2-4 different strategies per shoe!!!

[@rb587]

Thanks for trying these systems with real cards. I’m not a big fan of the rng’s. I played my system and was able collect 13 units on this shoe.

[@Mister_Rafael]

You’re welcome! & great job 👍 I don’t recommend RNG .. ever

[@jordan68ph]

Whats your system dude ??

[@jintalanmarcop.617]

dude what's your system?

[@mikec3059]

What happens if you lose 5 in a row? Do you start again when the steak is broken.? I've been studying shues and was wondering why not use the Martindale system, seems to work well.

[@chesscannonball7572]

Also baccarat is much faster than craps when it take forever when there are 10 shooters betting all over the place before they roll the dice. You can play ten hands of baccarat in that time.

[@jason08233]

In casino that 7 total 3 cards banker is bonus dragon. This shoe is really good.😁😁

[@kingjambo77]

on dragon panda table yeah not on regular table

[@BrianC888]

Already 3 dragons and not even half shoe lol

[@rich33888]

Thanks for being so detailed

[@TarmendranMaylvahanamcool]

Thanks for the method bro. Anyone using method any update so far ?

[@P.M.B.]

Isn't the idea playing bacarat is to ride the streaks to maximize winnings?

[@johnrupesh4535]

Thats what idiots do and casinos want you to do.

[@itzamia]

@@johnrupesh4535 No, the Casino wants you at the table. Either you bet with the streaks, or you bet with the chops. You're going to lose one way or another after a while.

[@Hakushakuke]

​@@johnrupesh4535you are the idiot.

[@daffaellong6557]

I always follow the players who ever got winning streak. …. Or play against the player with losing streak …..

[@robo310]

Yo I've never played baccarat ever, tried your super simple no mirror method and was+7 units at the end of the shoe!!

[@Mister_Rafael]

Good to hear, Rob! Welcome to my channel 🤛

[@premjibhaibagda2408]

How's it going now?

[@premjibhaibagda2408]

@@baccaratfunk waiting for it

[@itzamia]

​@premjibhaibagda2408 Rob showed the strategy to his landlord and now they're both tenants😥

[@gerardy7500]

Hi just fell on to your video. I know it's not your strategy and appreciate how you make it simple for us to understand how this works. You mentioned that after 5 consecutive loss you stop the betting. Is it for the whole shoe or you restart the betting after the player streak breaks in the same shoe. If the latter will the next Banker bet be 6 units (increment by 1 from last loss) or go back to the start with 1 unit? If quitting the shoe after 5 consecutive loss and play with a new shoe would you start betting on 6 units or 1 unit?

[@electricshock220]

Not bad at all. Do you know how much testing was done on this strategy?

[@westbourne]

Thank you for the great video. Now I know why some Baccarat players use this method. I think it works well as there might be less chance of getting another player streaks after a banker win.

[@Mister_Rafael]

You’re welcome Matsuoka!

[@MobileT_US]

@@Mister_Rafael any videos on how to read Bead Plate? I wish I could have a chance to learn that. Thanks

[@JohnSmith-hl4bb]

Other baccarat, banker 3 cards 7 is push. It is 40 to 1 PAY out if you bet the Dragon 7.

[@dannywagon1212]

Ligit system,, 4 unit is enough for positive results. Thanks

[@danothemano350]

This feels like the easiest sensible strategy. Trying this tonight!

[@PythGannBOT]

I have a very good strategy for baccarat that i can share for free

[@alexeipolozov]

When you bet on Banker, you need to pay 5%... I used my system on Player and would get +27 units (or +4 units because of the cut card).

[@arvin164]

In bacarat method just 20% work just chans , if is the starat to win you are that time winer if the day strat with losing you have to stop , and not countine

[@krllyy]

Two comments.....if you wanted to "slow your roll" a bit , after a loss you still increase your next bet BUT wait for another 2nd -banker-set-up before you place it. Also, this can be used in reverse by betting SECOND PLAYER after a 2/+ banker streak.

[@fhworkshop167]

I was thinking about that possibility

[@nickmaster2854]

I agree. In a player dominant shoe it would be better to bet the SECOND PLAYER after a bank run

[@jimalberts5883]

There was a bad spot in the shoe for the 2nd player strategy. I was watching for the same reverse pattern too. We’re definitely degenerate gamblers!

[@chipjuniormobilelegendsgam8823]

Why Just bet on second banker and not do Same strategy reverse for player as the same? Nice video and nice betting point👌🏼

[@shanew1278]

Because banker has a slight advantage. But its minimal. So no reason it wont work in reverse.

[@navalrajak]

Everytime when Tie Comes the next hand is changed for example if player won the current bet & if tie comes in next bet, then after tie next hand will be Banker...

[@Zamilis]

Not always

[@antoneisma8069]

I made 500 betting on player. Fantastic system

[@awesomeshorts8664]

Bankroll and units?

[@bb3283]

I’ll ride whichever side is being favored more. I will also try to find patterns given by the charts provided; that’s how I determine my guesstimation 🤷🏽‍♂️. I’ve done well so far

[@premjibhaibagda2408]

How much to how much?

[@jodypeke7867]

@@premjibhaibagda2408 i win around 1000$ last week😂 from 10$

[@premjibhaibagda2408]

@@jodypeke7867 what's your strategy??? I've lost around $1000 following every strategies

[@jodypeke7867]

@@premjibhaibagda2408 i just try to match the pattern, and my other strategies use number to read next pattern, example : if player win in 9, bet on banker, if player win again after have 9 , bet on player again, and its work

[@jodypeke7867]

@@premjibhaibagda2408 this week i win around $1500 😂

[@larryvaldez6752]

I thought it was awesome and you did a really great job..very informative..

[@olimansfield2713]

Hi enjoyed the video but if playing in game and you can see the dominant player shouldn't you switch to player and stick to the same strategy

[@Angelo-ix9to]

You cant do this in The Philippines to rely on banker to win because if ever the banker wins by 6, the win is only half payout for those who bet for the banker - That is the house edge. But if youre in the VIP or high rollers the house edge for banker is always 10% commission no matter how much is your bet.

[@faiznawar6361]

5%

[@nqi87]

would it work just as well for betting on player after a banker streak ended?

[@sugbosugbo1987]

My advice to new player never use long progression. Use mechanical method . You may combined the mechanical with your prime BS to control your losses . Find a method that less risk and aim for smallest goal win for shoe 3 or 5 units and win it over and over again then increase you capital using their money. Remember the only way we can beat the casino is to use their money and we use our time to accomplished this mission. Gambling is 1/2 part calculations and 1/2 part luck . greetings from the Cebu city. philippines

[@rich33888]

Love the advice! Appreciate it ✊🏼

[@ramrad1591]

Sir can you share your how much bankroll you use and size of bets..thanks

[@sugbosugbo1987]

@@ramrad1591 12 UNITS if you win 12 units the next other game is already free funded its already casino money. leave the table if get your target but only after one lose. play 3 shoe per day. look casino will change their dealer after few minutes . Their advantage is unlimited money and Time is on their side. You MUST REMEMBER IT ALWAYS BEFORE PLAYING BACCARAT. AFTER WINNING FOR ONE WEEK INCREASE YOUR BUY IN. My maximum bet size is 3 units positive or negative.

[@joshuaganat5310]

@@sugbosugbo1987 kabayan share naman ng teknik jan

[@vincentbryanmontales6498]

ano po ibig ibig sabihin long progression na strat?

[@leialmasy1]

Interesting, my strategy consist of 3rd win in the shoe & progressive bet the wins.

[@electricshock220]

Miguel can you elaborate on your strategy

[@leialmasy1]

@@electricshock220 I look for the first 3 in a row to reveal itself in the shoe once it does I wait for the losing side to win twice before I use a Martingale bet if I lose I wait for the same side that hasnt won 3 in a row yet to win twice again before I play the next Maringale bet. 99.8% of the time both sides will win 3 in a row in a shoe it should reveal itselft atleat once almost no drawback. Its slow but you able to play all day or on repeated shoes if you have a good bankroll if your lucky youll go on a streak & try take advantange of that. Hope you understood this explanation if both sides reveal 3 in a row in the shoe dont play on that shoe.

[@rahulpoptani]

@@leialmasy1 bro i play the same with second chance ... I only win no losses

[@pthakur999]

@@rahulpoptani Can you elaborate your method of playing??

[@PhiTranVan-rl3ow]

@@leialmasy1 bạn có thể vi dụ cu thể được không? Cảm ơn trước nhé

[@Mrbg123]

I usually play with the streak and add .5x to my bet per hand won, with 10% bet on tie

[@alfiedabu12]

What is the app you use to keep track of player and banker?

[@TheBongpolk]

Can we switch on players side instead bet on banker because of the dragon, no pay. Nowadays most baccarat are no collections because of the side bet of dragon.

[@cadavor]

21 wins for me on my strat. 2nd banker might be good for building your bankroll.

[@godownondebbygang3456]

What kiinda strat do you use

[@Simon-Do-Animation]

why not 2nd player strategy?

[@jaebae558]

what happens when it goes long player after you targeted second bank

[@jimalberts5883]

You stop after 5th loss and wait for next trigger

[@markangeloramos6727]

Me after 3 streak lose i will stop, then i will wait for the trigger again...

[@englishe1940]

LOOKS GOOD TO ME SIR ..MAYBE BETTING STRATEGY COULD BE DIFFERENT ...I AM NEW TO THIS STUFF ...

[@amakko1]

Love it. Great way for beginners.

[@HuyenTran-to4fo]

Please give me some advices on playimg which half? Is first half easier to win than second half? Which one is more safe to bet

[@markangeloramos6727]

Nice tutorial, by the way i won using your strategy, from two zeros currency to five zeros currency👌👌👌

[@rheddionisio232]

Seems effective... will try it.

[@nestorpianarosa1845]

Hola pregunta : si pierdo las 5 apuestas sigo aumentando de a 1 ficha las próximas 5 y así continuamente hasta bajar muchas gracias

[@jejewa2763]

I play to win 5 and play two systems and I won 5 in both after 30 hands...should I go further I would get more but trained myself not to be greedy....

[@jemsuarez5872]

What if Banket has 5% commision on every win? Will this systems still give you profit?

[@vigneshp3816]

I had seen throughout the end. It seems best. I saw a live game trail right now. In the end of the shoe I lost 14 units. Is that happens. How to take it. Need ur reply

[@sajidandreampatuan4561]

⁸⁸

[@HuyenTran-to4fo]

Yourprime BS to control yourlosses?could you please explain it?

[@williamschmidt987]

Are you using 6 or 8 decks? Is there a standard that casinos use?

[@pourtierbeatz7804]

I tried this at a casino and the first day it was working then after that the past 3 days i have gone it has not worked in my favor idk if they caught on or :/

[@baljindersinghpb0290]

What can i do if we loose 5 times in a row. U havnt mention that ???

[@sugbosugbo1987]

you bet four attempt you losing odds is 6 percent.

[@lou5368]

not really digging this system but it is interesting, thanks for trying it out

[@ExtraJuicySlots]

3 years old video and this strategy still work I have won around 240k using this strategy

[@anhngoc4404]

Bạn có thể nói rõ giúp tôi ko

[@infernokiller15]

No shit?

[@roberthesley7519]

Great video I enjoyed watching it. I think the player should have taken advantage of the players streaks. And possibly your afford shit profit would be a 10 chip profit.

[@ashleyzielenski8776]

You did not take out the 5% tax on your winning hands. That can make a big difference.

[@rosiebro2411]

Not all casinos have tax on banker

[@LUCKY-pt1lb]

This is a simple strategy… you can try this method on PLAYER also instead of BANKER if you afraid of TAX 😅 You can name that strategy as 2nd PLAYER Strategy 😂

[@eatyourbraincoco5761]

Does this work if banker pay just 95% when win?

[@nqi87]

Have you had to walk away with 5 consecutive losses after using this strategy before?

[@mikec3059]

Why can't you do the steak on Banker and player to give you more bets

[@Mister_Rafael]

I suppose you can. The person who recommended this strategy to me told me to choose Banker bc of the slight advantage.

[@asr-media8835]

Hi, Can you do a Tie system?

[@anthonylamacchia5746]

Say you lose your first 5 hands, meaning at 10 a pop you lose 50. So when you wait for the next run of second banker do you start with a 60 bucks bet or start from scratch with a 10 bucks bet.

[@alfredlim1311]

Too slow but most table work. Will try combo with 🔴O/ ⚫O/

[@anthonylamacchia5746]

Can I reverse it instead? Reason is because in an Australian casino if the banker wins on 6 you only win half of your original bet. So this could negate my winnings.

[@Mister_Rafael]

I haven’t tested it on Player. The reason why we’re betting on Banker is bc of the slight advantage.

[@650Giantsfan]

When I play, I always bet on the streak or the chop

[@manrocha7176]

No commission bank? 5%? But good system yet. Thanks.

[@teebo5298]

I like patterns at 16:11 how it went 2 1 1 1 2 and than 1 1 1 2 . Made a killing of those

[@fritzmiller5622]

Nice one sir

[@bigfishpoker3427]

So why not bet on the player streak

[@georgesiyunov7127]

What do u do when u lose 5 in row. Do u start all over with Oscar grind or what

[@Mister_Rafael]

I would use a bet spread & start over with a 2x unit size

[@YTtalis49]

@@Mister_Rafael If you end up with a shoe with the second to fourth use in the minus, do you start with a new shoe with a continuation of the progression? Or do you start a new 2x level with every minus?

[@Mister_Rafael]

Hugo Schallert Hey Hugo. If I lose 5 in a row, I’d stop & wait for the next trigger on the same table while using a bet spread to increase my unit size.

[@awesomeshorts8664]

Which video explains bet spread?

[@tuvo2234]

Bạn có cách vào bàn nào là hợp lý không?

[@DavidReyes-fd3qz]

You loose a lot of money it was a player shoe

[@tonycheong-v9k]

Hi Rafael, how much you bet when you lost 5 hands in a roll? 6 units or back to 1 unit with the same shoe or diffrent?

[@PythGannBOT]

I have a very good strategy for baccarat that i can share for free

[@PythGannBOT]

I have a very good strategy for baccarat that i can share for free

[@75JVE]

Thanks, I made $120. Using my own system. Great informative video buddy

[@Mister_Rafael]

Awesome job! & thank you. Welcome to my channel!

[@CHANCE-ms5ob]

シューが終わったら1ユニットから再開しますか？ それとも途中のベット額の続きからスタートしますか？

[@PythGannBOT]

I have a very good strategy for baccarat that i can share for free

[@dannyschumaker]

u forgot about commission. It's 5% so every 100 is 5.

[@AnimeKTV888]

plus 1 or double lose bet? which should I use??

[@sengkokchyemichael5229]

Good strategy!

[@lucas-mn9me]

Hi Rafael .. I play with this system after losing 3 time I stop .. and I restarted again .its work with me ... what do you think about that ??? ..

[@Mister_Rafael]

3 in a row stop loss is good. Keep it up!

[@jesseval1]

Play second player as well

[@jay2004r]

I think this strategy wouldn’t be that effective with a player shoe. A different strategy would be to just continue betting on the last bet (player or banker) that won to catch a streak….

[@anilthakurrr9543]

Suppose if the player streak gets ended and and i bet on banker and then we got a player streak their then what we have to do in that case i have to place bets on banker or stop betting on banker...????

[@do_bronx214]

Wait for the player's streak to be broken again before cashing in 2nd banker. Konsa money management apply karte ho?

[@PhucNguyen-fy8dx]

Evolution baccarat is real game, not cheat? Right?

[@Mahi-ln4yg]

lol

[@luckiermore5120]

Try this strategy.. ive heard and played it occasionally for a while. dis is how it works. pay attention on the winning hand of the previous hand. Beit whichever side won check how many ''cards'' did they win with. if the winning hand wins with 2 cards without a draw..= the next hand bet on player. BUT if any side won with a 3 card you bet on banker the next hand. you get it?? if player first 2 card is J , 3 banker is K,5.. player pulls a picture card meaning banker win with 4 to player 3. but banker won with just 2 card the next hand bet on banker. lets say its the same hand player J3 - banker K5 say player pull 4 player become 7 and banker pull 4 banker BECOME 8 AND is going to win but with 3 cards that SIGNIFY BETTING ON BANKER THE NEXT HAND. ONLY FOCUS ON WINNING HAND IF WINNING HAND WIN WITH 2 CARD BET PLAYER //IF WINNING HAND WIN WITH3 CARD BET BANKER. its pretty good. but not better than any other pattern grabbers strategy. the first time played won 6k online lol

[@gh0st417]

How did this come about? It's very interesting and to better understand so after a 2 card win bet player and any 3 card win bet banker?

[@luckiermore5120]

@@gh0st417 see to be honest, there isn't any sound logic behind that. i've bee playing bac for 5 yrs plus and from what i picked up within those time were you gotta stick with some sort of pattern. you cant go in and just bet on what ever you want, especially online, you have no idea if those cards are arranged or not. but simply betting without a pattern are the reason you could lose 4 5 6 hands in a row. but pattern that is random such as this one, it is hard that it will be wrong many times in a row. it could be anything tho the patterns, you can make ya own but you gotta commit to it. i go in sometimes and decide my bet on the first card of banker or player or the second of B/P. assign a number to it A is 1 and count till K which is 13 and decide if its an odd number bet banker or if its even number bet player on the next. It could be absolutely anything. once i played bac online and my strategy was color, the first card dealt for each hand will decide what i bet on next, if it were Red bet player and if black bet banker. i won 11hands in a row right from the first hand i played lul. i thing is ya gotta commit to it be consistent with your bets and put up a stop loss i usually do 3 hands. 100 / 200 / 400. and after winning quite a bit maybe chase it a lil more. im from thailand and gambling is tied with superstitions all asians believe that. if you play on mobile , and if ya sit in one spot and you kept losing change the spot go to other room change the direction you facing lol. might sound stupid but just take my word for it. and one last superstition is eat before you play.

[@gh0st417]

@@luckiermore5120 thank you, I like the idea that you posted won a couple of hands playing RNG with it. Looks good for a hit and run style going to continue to mess with that since I have never seen anyone post it. Being another way to look at the next play possibly mixed with a pattern to see what kind of variance comes out 🤙

[@shilpajanu8798]

@@luckiermore5120 brother please help me how can I win in baccarat...do you know any strategy or formula,I lost lot of money so please help me, your strategy I didn't understand so can you explain once more please

[@MobileT_US]

@@luckiermore5120 any tips on how to read Bead Plate? Thanks

[@mr.commander3947]

VERY interesting betting,,, surely it works for some shoes,,,some case,,,

[@gopichandk8505]

Thank you sooo much brother

[@Mister_Rafael]

No problem Gopi! 👍

[@saurabhdubey8907]

What is the strategy please explain me bro

[@davidanderson4931]

Just bet whichever wins the hand before last.

[@PythGannBOT]

I have a very good strategy for baccarat that i can share for free

[@johnnymac7821]

@@PythGannBOTwhat is it?

[@devarajab.gdevarajab.g1661]

Please help and guide anyone im ful of lose money i want win plz advise on baccarate

[@joaquinbarocio5320]

Of course it’s a player dominant shoe

[@alexn8038]

Thanks for this video, but if you play in real casino setting, you will lose money on this system.

[@wellingtonsenkge4221]

Gud video to test strategy

[@samse3233]

Rafael as I told you before in here casinos Banker pays half money when banker win with total of 6 !! Do you think it is possible to switch second banker to second player? Thanks

[@Mister_Rafael]

Sam, you shouldn't play this system if your casino takes half your money when you win on Banker. The point of 2nd Banker is that Banker has a slight advantage in Baccarat so 2nd Player wouldn't make any sense.

[@samse3233]

@@Mister_Rafael Looking sad to hear that. Got it thanks.

[@samse3233]

@@Mister_Rafael so for HA action . Do you think if i choice the PPB pattern is good idea for all times.? Because I would leave the B for the last and hopping to get my profits on those first 2 pp column!! What do you think? Thanks for your response

[@vinfong318]

If banker 6 pay half u consider that as a win too. The key to all winning system is patience and control.

[@vinfong318]

Sam Se all systems work on a certain frame of time. When it’s the right time u win , when it’s not then u should consider stop and wait.

[@ABRA_326]

Good stuff!!

[@limchenghoe4039]

Hi, On your first betting when player came down four, you waiting for banker and it came out 2 player, so if come down 3 or more player , still betting ???

[@Mister_Rafael]

Yes Lim. Anything that’s a Player streak of 2 or more.

[@limchenghoe4039]

@@Mister_Rafael , If the chart with PPPPBPPPPPPP

[@Mister_Rafael]

I mentioned in the video that I would stop at 5 losses in a row and restart using a higher unit size

[@limchenghoe4039]

@@Mister_Rafael well

[@limchenghoe4039]

@@Mister_Rafael, Hi, On the video when player end at four , you start to bet second banker 1 unit you lost so you bet 2 unit and you bet 3 unit won after you won beside was 2 player and don't continue to bet for the banker second ???

[@vibotamorry2632]

If the players drop 10 hands in the row so ? Usually see that with casino online

[@Mister_Rafael]

I usually set a stop loss of 5 losses in a row before I stop & wait for the next trigger.

[@awesomeshorts8664]

And you keep adding one unit or after 5 losses you start back with base bet on the 6th bet?