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[@dantwaites7097]

12yrs ago i was hired as a welder at a small caterpillar plant in ne iowa. I came in and got right to work learning every weldment i could. Fast forward about a yr and they pull everyone in our meeting room and tell us they are gonna expand and need to hire 30 more welders but they were having problems finding welders that could pass their computer test so they can get an interview. I tell them that we are in ne iowa and not many people went to college but there were people that if given the chance would blow their socks off. They ended up taking some of the advice and hired a small group of welders and just dropped them on the floor and said heres ur welder have at it. After watching this happen and seeing guys quit because they didnt know what to do, i stepped up and told the new hires if they had any problems that i would help. Fast forward again a few months and they hired an outside weld instructor to take guys off the street and train em up and get em ready to just walk on the floor and perform at company standards and also be able to read metric prints. That didnt work out so hot and we lost all but like 1 of the trainees. Then they say they r gonna start a new shift and asked all the senior welder if any of them would go to 2nd and train the new welders, no one stepped up to do it. So i get asked to do it with the promise of becoming the team lead on that shift. I accepted and went straight to work. I was given 1 to start and the following week i was given 5 more. A few weeks later and i got 3 more. I taught each one of them how to transitions welds from multiple passes down to a single or double showing. Taught them how to read every blueprint we had and would hold 20min print reading lessons a few nights a week. Now at this point my team is running flawlessly and im running around like mad man every nite training and still doing my own production. Thing kept getting bigger and bigger till i was running 2 building full of welders, burn tables, break presses and a blast booth. I was put in charge of the entire shift for 2 weeks while the supervisor was in kansas at our sister plant for training. During that time i made sure there were no issues between either shifts and if there were i mediated between shifts and fixed the issues. Fast forward a few more months and the company says its time to pick a team lead so i apply thinkn its a lock. The day comes that they r going to announce the new team lead and im gettn Is congratulated by everybody on both shifts. As the nite went on and im doin my thing it gets to last break and my supervisor pulls me to the side and says Dan im sorry but i went with someone else who has more leadership experience. Im very sorry. I was crushed beyond belief. The next words out of his mouth were and i quote, i need you to train the new team lead and get him up to speed. I laughed and told him to get fucked and i would never train another person while i was there. After that they threathened to take pay away made me work on weldments that took 2 guys but wanted me to out out 2 peoples worth of production a nite. Also when i took my very 1st family vacation, this was before they announced the team lead, i would recieve phone calls multiple times a night asking how to weld something or how ti fix something because i was the only person who knew how. I was forced out medically in may of 2013 due to injuries i recieved while in service to my country. 1.5-2yrs later that plant closed its doors and 50 welders lost their jobs

[@aaronanderson7619]

Everyone under you knew you are a good dude, still a swift kick to the ..... Take care hombre. Don't let rat basards get you down.

[@dedrakuhn6103]

They effed you and you effed back, unfortunately 50 good people also lost their jobs. You effed them too hard, I guess payback is a B****h

[@GasPipeJimmy]

You did the right thing. You didn’t cost anybody their jobs, your stupid employer did through their own idiocy. Screw ’em!

[@olstar18]

Did they at least promote someone else internally or was it some idiot outside hire.

[@user-td1zo3tv9p]

Brother, I've BTDT myself. As a Disabled Veteran, my employer would promise raises as things got better and those with less seniority and less skill got raises because they would kiss the bosses butt. I would just keep my head down and do MY job and help the new guys if they asked. But every time I asked for a raise I was told there wasn't any money yet the whiners bragged about getting raises when they thought I couldn't hear them. Well, one Friday afternoon near the end of the day I got called into the office and they asked me for my company keys and ID badge and I was told they didn't have enough work and I was being let go. Sad thing is they had to hire two guys at much less than they paid me and they weren't able to do the jobs I did anyway as I found out through the grapevine. The company is struggling and frankly, IDGAF and hope they close the doors. As for me, I ended up taking my military Disability check and Social Security permanent disability and I make more now than when I was working. Talk about Karma. Good Luck to you, Brother.

[@Murfster]

I had a similar agreement with a machine shop owner; we were trying to turn it into a machine shop design-build company. He owned the shop, and I am a P.E. tooling engineer. We had a profit share agreement, which seemed on paper to be a great deal. After 5 months I realized he was scamming me and I walked. I got almost nothing, but i'm glad i cut my losses. There is a lot of scum in this industry, best option is just to avoid it as much as possible.

[@GrantOakes]

I've seen several of your videos and although they focus on CNC manufacturing the REAL message is about business management, human resources and customer support, all grounded in ethics. Great Job!

[@Kardos55]

I have over 40 years experience in the manufacturing industry. I found that designing parts, fixtures, working with machines and making parts is all very rewarding and predictable. Working with like-minded, decent, enthusiastic people is empowering, inspiring and fun. But, in every barrel you'll find one or two bad apples - bad apples can spoil the whole barrel. The only thing you can control is your own actions . . . and look where you are now - you obviously made the right choices.

[@nhrifle]

Titan, mad respect for you. People on the outside see this as a "dirty" trade. But it is awesome, and it can break you. I go home more often than not feeling completely spent mentally and physically. Still, I wouldn't do anything else.

[@dontfeelcold]

The correct answer to being given promise in that situation is " no. I'll do the extra work but you'll pay me the extra now and when the position becomes available at the time, we can discuss it".

[@kitatit]

Amazing! Titan just mentioned Coherent Laser parts they were making. Anyone who knows about lasers knows Coherent is one of, if not the most high end laser manufacturer in the world who service medical, research and laser light show markets. Such a humble bloke, but what a resume! ✊

[@absolutelynonameslef]

We use many Coherent lasers at my company. Ours weld, machine, and mark. Their service team is not very helpful, so we've nicknamed them "Incoherent" as a laugh.

[@kitatit]

@@absolutelynonameslef haha, maybe similar to Mercedes-Benz attitude. Something like. It’s a privilege that we let you buy our products and we will service your needs on our terms.

[@texasermd1]

That guy probably came up with the game plan from the beginning. Such a dick move BUT look at where you are now vs where you would have been had he been true to his word. Congrats again on building your company and filling it with the people we get to see in these videos. And Barry. 🤓 (Just f’ing with you Barry.) 👍🏼👍🏼

[@theduke7539]

I just left my last job because my boss refused to value my skills. I wasn't asking for a fortune. Just more than what I could make flipping burgers. I have skills no one else in his shop has, and he was paying me less than his store clerks. I don't know where I'll end up, but I can't go back to an employer taking advantage of my passion for the trade to get cheaper labor.

[@nathanthomas8184]

I've worked with a GREAT company's & brilliant machinist & noticed how individuals are pessimistic & manager's are Optimistic & then to find what I NEEDED that's GOLD Titan you are one of a KIND just keep on BOOMING on

[@insideout144]

You should thank him that was the push you needed to become who you are and how you treat your team!

[@chaddoan4659]

I've several owner retirement plans structured this way where someone agrees to stay with the promise of a seller financed purchase in a few years or a predetermined purchase price turn out this way with the owner backing out and screwing over the guy that's taken their business to the next level. I don't think I've ever seen one actually work out were the buyer and seller weren't father and son and I've only seen one of those go through

[@mp5kfisher241]

In the early 2000’s my dad was in ICU, wasn’t expected to live so i was taking off work at the machine shop to stay by his side because we were very very close. So on the 2nd day of me being off, the supervisor calls me while im sitting at my dad’s bedside, the supervisor asks well how is your dad doing? I said well not good, i Don’t think he is going to make it. So the supervisor says well I’m going to have to lay you off, yep on the phone he is laying me off. That was one of the worst years of my life!

[@machfab434]

Titan, I had the same thing happen but.......IT WAS EIGHTEEN YEARS!!!!!! Little did I know.....It was GOD'S hand all the time that educated me to run my OWN machine shop Thanks for your dedication!!

[@michaelkeymont501]

That’s sometimes how God works! I’m on His path right now myself, and it has been crazy at times, but I know that God is putting me through something that I need to go through. His will, not mine. May God’s blessings continue to show you the path he has chosen for you!

[@machfab434]

@@WalMjak all in his plan. He knows best

[@jamesbizs]

@@machfab434 lol. And what about the 20,000 kids that die of starvation every single DAY. What’s his plan for them? But he had a plan for some random machinist? Do you really believe that? You can’t claim he does all the good things, and pretend all of the bad is not him.

[@machfab434]

@@jamesbizs God loves you and those kids

[@michaelnaretto3409]

I took some machine shop classes in high school and went to a Vocational school afterwards. It was manual machining, grinding our own cutting tools, etc. It was fun.

[@williamlind2843]

Im going thru this right now. I built this company's CNC dept from 1 machine to 24 machines. Now after 22 years they sold it to Tinicum investment firm. I was told I would still have my job, but we'll see.

[@2MartSaar]

with every new step and enlargement,before that,you have to sell yourself to them and get a raise and contract ,with it the job descritpion and duties change and salary too...

[@stephengreen3566]

There is no such thing as a verbal "contract". If it is not in righting, it does not exist.

[@redmondgurney]

That’s not true - a verbal contract can be legally binding

[@eldiablo7862]

@@redmondgurney you're correct, some states do recognize verbal contracts.

[@watchm4ker]

Verbal contracts can be valid - depends on local laws, obviously - but without evidence, it can be very difficult to *prove.* Get it in writing, and be clear about wording.

[@markfairbrother1983]

Verbal contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on 🤷‍♂️

[@oceanic8424]

@@redmondgurney [05/21/22] Without solid corroboration, one stands very little chance of enforcement even if jurisdictional laws support verbal contracts. It simply becomes he said, they said, and that, even if you kept detailed notes. It's a very bad position to start from, and the legal fees meter just keeps ticking on....cha ching, cha ching.

[@grownnotflown2]

You are a legend! Keep up the good fight. 👍

[@grey5626]

Relatable. I've put in the blood, sweat and tears, had the sleepless nights, the 10+ days working straight, being on call 24x7 for years, administering VPN concentrators so others could work remotely while I could only use them in addition to 40+ hours at a desk, making other people lots of money while they treated me like dirt, even when dangling the carrot of "maybe I'll hand this business over to you." I'm not sure how to get past this burn out and cynicism anymore. I've seen what goes inside the sausage at Fortune 1 to Fortune 25 and so much of it is predicated on human rights abuses. That isn't how I want to run a business. I don't want to facilitate businesses like that. I think most of those at the top of the pyramid of capitalism should be regulated or litigated out of existence. I still work on things that I think are a benefit to others as well as myself, but getting paid and having a work life balance while not acting as an enabler for the most unethical robber barons on Earth? I haven't figured that out, but I want to, desperately.

[@colinashby3775]

As a guy that loves this cnc stuff but never got involved with it, I really enjoy these stories.

[@jamalwilliams1792]

You guys are the best at what you do, I love seeing your videos, cause I can learn a lot from it. It's educational, fun, informative, and just mind blowing to see the level of skills you guys show to the audience, well done, keep up the tremendous great work, and I look forward to seeing more and more of your videos. Stay safe and stay blessed.

[@oceanic8424]

[05/21/22] That's called pulling the carpet from underneath you, or being blindsided. Gotta have a solid written contract, and even then, the new owners may NOT be legally bound to respect contracts negotiated by the original owner. (Plus, if they want, they will find a way out of it.) Where is the sequel to this video??

[@janedrill]

Been there, experienced this more than once. Machinists are treated like dirt everywhere.

[@e8balle]

My friend! There is a lesson here, write it down in a contract always!

[@snowwhite7677]

If you had a Contract, you should have Sued his Ass.

[@machinist7230]

This a lesson for the rest of us - talk is cheap. If Management makes promises like this, GET IT IN WRITING.

[@TITANSofCNC]

I had it in writing…

[@paintballthieupwns]

@@TITANSofCNC - Then why did you not hold the man accountable?

[@panchovilla7355]

One thing about making deals always get it in writing , anything else is worthless

[@Nezalu]

Business is business, unless you have legally binding peace of paper, no word, promise, sense of honor, family ties, non of that matters. Only money.

[@wannabecarguy]

I found myself in the same situation. The Haas sales guy put it together. I ended up lasting only 2years. And losing 100k. I would have taken the buy out contract though.

[@tron3entertainment]

If something sounds too good to be true, it always is just that.

[@benjamingagne9357]

Haha coherent laser parts…lasers I run! I always enjoy your stories.

[@DragonwoodDesigns]

Red hot bit??? How can that even work? Is it just because the coolant is turned off for video purposes?

[@william6526]

A verbal agreement is worth about as much as the paper it's wrote on. I could see the ending to this half way through the video and I'm amazed you couldn't see you were being used.

[@markoreilly3414]

As a Tradie, Never trust a Business Owners "word". Ever ! You'll get screwed every time ! Get it in writing ! There are NO FRIENDS in Business , only Profit margins !

[@spendymcspendy]

It is great to hone a skill set , but is just a terrible waste of time, to work under an agreement that you would become a partner, only to have that agreement broken. Thank you for the lesson, Titan.

[@mealex303]

In titan's vocabulary C'n'C stands for , cool n calibrated LOL

[@ProjectShopFl]

Love these videos!

[@pablodavidmirandanunes1040]

Thanks titan for sharing your experiences

[@blank557]

This reminds me of the story in Genesis when Jacob had to work for seven years for his Uncle Laban to wed Rachel, only to get a bait and switch and given Leah instead, and be required to work yet another seven years to get Rachel. Then Laban tried to cheat Jacob out of his share of the goats that he raised successfully. The the product may change, from raising goats to parts produced by CNC machines, but human nature is still in the stone age when a guy like this boss breaks his promises and profits off his skills and knowledge. I'm impressed by Titan's restraint at the dinner with the boss( At a casino, where food is inexpensive to bring in gamblers? What a cheapskate the boss was!). I would have threaten to sue him for breach of contract, or tossed the meal in his lap.

[@trevorgoforth8963]

Can't wait to hear the next video!

[@colinashby3775]

The moment someone says I want to be honest with you….run

[@jonyp1320]

40 years ago i had the same situation. became freelancer the rest is hisrory ...

[@TheMadManPlace]

this sort of shit happens a lot more often than people realize.

[@barrysetzer]

Jeff, why you workin so hard, homie? 😂

[@doug4760]

Was there a update on this story?

[@strafer8764]

Gotta get paid what you are worth in the present. Waiting for years and the company being handed over to a non relative is hard to believe. I have been working for close to 30 years and I’m still learning to read people. I’m currently working a job where I’ve been taken advantage for being reliable. Other employees get away with doing less because management is uninvolved. Now I don’t put forth any extra effort. There is no incentive.

[@cavsh00ter]

Wish i had 1 quarter of this mans knowlege

[@andrewbeaton3302]

Love this!

[@GhulamHussainEngineeringWorks]

Great working sir and grinding machines. Video 📸📷

[@u.e.u.e.]

Hey Titan, that hurts. But can you imagine what hurt more? 😳 If it happens in your own family! 😖

[@seancollins9745]

I got shafted at a auto shop as a GM, it hurts like hell

[@tonylam9548]

I don't get it, near the end of this video, you were going to be general manager, 8:35 , next thing I hear, you quit? What the hell is going on, you quit ! and I don't know why.

[@boostburner]

How did you become so go and your not a engineer? I've been to school and got certified for matercam x6 in 2011, but couldn't get anyone to give me a chance. They all wanted you to have a master degree in engineering. So over time I forgot most of the stuff I know because I just been setting up

[@IK-wc4od]

It was always just a job. If its not in writing, it doesn't mean anything. All management lie, most of the time.

[@AlenMalen-q6e]

You should ask for double salary or for 20% of what he got and try use that money to start your own. Just a thought because I wasn't there and I don't know all the details.

[@1mikewalsh]

Your title reminded me why i quit machining!

[@roquri]

Man, that sounds very similar to my situation!

[@sternenwind00e]

If you say that you finish the story in the next video. Plz Link it in a Comment or the Descriptions. most ppl watching this video will never watch the 2. they will not take the time to search for it

[@thomaslavery7760]

If it sounds to good to be true, . . .

[@kartikpatel478]

Where is from?

[@MisFakapek]

Titan I've seen some machines running in "freezing temperatures" to improve machining efficiency and reduce wear of cutting parts. Any thoughts from your team about that?

[@detroit1018]

Wow

[@watchm4ker]

I'm not sure what the advantages would really be. On the one hand, the heat created by friction trivially overwhelms the temperature difference from room temp to 0 C, so you're still going to need cooling and lubrication, whose viscosity could be affected by the temperature drop. On the other hand, there's some steels whose DBTT is around 0 C, so it becomes a very different material to work on.

[@bengrogan9710]

From a similiar experience I would suggest that the need to keep material chilled is often less about tool wear, more about maintaining a set material condition, such as keeping aluminium in an annealed state for later operations

[@gregepp3082]

hell ya brother!

[@zundappchef]

i still wanna see that chinesium vice being milled true middle . u prommised

[@barrysetzer]

I am still excited about that, too. Im about to go take it and do it on the Ibarmia

[@robertprice2108]

@@barrysetzer Barry you are a bad man. Titan going to get that !!! Lol. Be safe guys

[@mohammed5bhai]

Where is his company also if everyone becomes a owner who will work

[@garygriffin3114]

Titan I have to think you was part of that company and you giving notice and offering to stay for the transition showed your character and your old bosses lack of it, but I would have thought staying for that new owner had some bargaining power. Guess not BUT KARMA put you where you are now. As always thanks for sharing.

[@creativeworld4237]

I mever even trust my shadow. Forget peoples

[@Reaperofwind]

One of those trained his replacement situations. Built his company and cashed out.

[@Wbfuhn]

I sensed a red flag. Not from you but the owner. 5:03, that's where the red flag starts.

[@g1expert102]

I also know how to help other people and make them money... Im kinda pissed because i have been doing it for free for about 3 years now

[@janwitts2688]

Wouldn't have given him 12 months without a real contract with a percentage... I'm going to be up front with you? He says at the end... the moment a person avoids talking or eye contact you know he is fking you over...

[@WhizeCracker]

You should have told him, "WHERE DO I SIGN?" before the four+ years.

[@TITANSofCNC]

We did have a contract

[@supercat380]

Titan, your industrial and machining expertise cannot go unrewarded or dishonoured. Experts such as yourself are going to be increasingly in demand due to the vast expanding field of robotics and micro- components. Faith in Jesus will never let you down in your business and personal life, and you will be rewarded for your prayers!

[@samuelspencer9194]

Mister Gilroy does a CNC lathe automatically compensate for the wear of a tool while it is in use just curious I've never heard anybody say if if it does or doesn't love your videos and what you're trying to do to help younger people get into the trade I don't know anything about CNC machines my dad had an old I forget what name it was but it would swing 15 in manual lathe and back when I was a kid I used to do stuff with it but again love your videos be safe and have a good day Sam

[@dukedog3464]

Just depends on how the program is written, for lathe work I’ve never ran into tool wear compensation pretty common in mills. I’m not nearly as experienced as Mr. Gilroy hope I helped though

[@samuelspencer9194]

@@dukedog3464 yes thank you for information

[@adammiller4879]

Generally no, but on newer machines with tool setters and probes you can program in what is called “ macro variables “ which is a much more technically understanding of code. Which can touch off tools to check for wear whenever you want in the program, update , and or alarm out if it’s out of tolerance. But most machines can’t do this if they are older and or shops don’t let you do this thinking it’s a “waste of time” from my experience. But it’s gold if you learn that after the basics

[@samuelspencer9194]

@@adammiller4879 thank you for the information I appreciate it was just wondering be safe and have a great day Sam

[@bengrogan9710]

@@samuelspencer9194 Tool wear offsets have existed on lathe programming since the 80's - While not truly "Automated" in the ability to self check the old Churchill CTC4 lathe we used in my parents shop had wear offsets that would automatically increment based on the machine time and wear rate you set We used it with multiple identical cutters in different carousel positions for production work so that the only down time was start of day for fresh tips while running bar feed for stock through the day

[@bynoebynoe9677]

I would have walked the day he said he's selling the company.

[@JSomerled]

That should be a lesson to y’all… Words mean very little.Contracts….

[@glennwatson3313]

Should have got it in writing or talked with a lawyer. You could see that bait and switch coming from a mile away.

[@TITANSofCNC]

Definitely had it in writing.

[@kdtune33]

Stay away from job shops, problem solved.

[@mrjechill]

Yep, you got screwed but it happens all the time. I dont ask anyone for shit now, i started my own business.

[@IntercontinentalArmy]

I remember getting the same treatment while I was employed by Titan that's mentioned in the video description!

[@dalebend2831]

Usually it’s when I put my Two weeks in that management starts offering more money to me. By then I have already made up my mind and have a better job. Verbal promises mean nothing, get your money up front.

[@IntercontinentalArmy]

@@dalebend2831 Titan is illegal anyhow. Gil is nature and roy is an old black man who was blind! Titan is a planet. The guy the industry employs is a child molester and not a Native American. He is probably using a stolen Social Security number also! Probably doesn't pay taxes and he damn sure had a hard time of paying my hourly wages!

[@aaronanderson7619]

Bottom line. Good, loyal, hard working dudes get burned. Every time, all the time. Crazy how so many bosses flat ass lie.

[@djd1162]

It would be cool to see if you had any insights in my workplace’s machining practices, Ariel Corporation.

[@Mr30friends]

Why would you give someone a month notice and help him transition the company if he fucks you over that bad?

[@opendstudio7141]

It's called loyalty to friendship, coupled with understanding and cemented with gratitude. Explaining it in spiritual terms might not make sense.

[@Mr30friends]

@@opendstudio7141 sounds good and all, but it all breaks down when its one sided...

[@gamelord1000]

Integrity - and also very smart. I am pretty sure that month wasn't spent 100% on the transition of the company. It buys you 1 month to figure out your own personal life, make the correct choice and get paid while you "transition" yourself into another job.

[@strafer8764]

I would have walked out.

[@strafer8764]

@@opendstudio7141 it’s simply business. Provide quality labor for quality pay. If either party doesn’t hold up their end of the agreement then loyalty isn’t a factor. I think to look it as an ongoing business transaction is the most professional perspective and one that protects both the employer and the employee.

[@ccengineer5902]

Perhaps its your selection of jobs/clients, your general attitude, your execution on quality or deadline... We're left with a foggy picture because we're only getting one side of the story. In the vast amount of crises you've encountered there is one common element; it's you. and I think that factor is being overlooked.

[@bobbg9041]

Not a smart move on his part. And really stupid move on somone buying the business, you knew ever contact, you probably didn't have a no compeat clause, therefore you could take every customer of his becuse you knew the jobs and what corrners you could cut.

[@simonkolo4368]

Tipical I’m this country.. they will promise you this and that but on the end they will give you s***😂

[@abhijittripathy6213]

Kindly help me out am planning to set a CNC machine shop in INDIA

[@dalebend2831]

I’m sure titan has plenty of free time to get you going. It’s not overnight work but three or four years of dedication. Everyone loves helping businesses succeed and get nothing in return.

[@ericweredyk4142]

Programmers need to put Trojan horses into their programs to prevent getting screwed.

[@danl.4743]

You mean time bombs...

[@ericweredyk4142]

@@danl.4743 Nah, more a backdoor to erase their intellectual property....if need be.

[@stevenbos5206]

That is the origin of the current viruses. You do not pay? Bye Bye Software

[@On2wls]

Was your contract written? If it was you have a good case to go after him. If not, get it in writing next time. Sucks to put all that time in and get screwed by an a$$hole.

[@5eZa]

i know this feel

[@jasondevault5066]

McDonald's don't let you eat before paying. Time to change the way you do business

[@boru-cnc]

You were very naive but don’t worry you can still be successful one day

[@stephenguidry7627]

Welcom to Capitalism, sorry all your hard work for nothing. but you will do it again you know you will. Mad Respect for you!

[@1sinister80]

Yep get everything in writing. Business is Business he screwed you because that is what Business is all about. He didn't become rich by giving things away. I'm sorry you got jacked like that. This also happened to me so I know it sucks.

[@HITTAGAME]

I would've asked for 50% of the amount he was selling for you own Equity of that company smh companies dont work like that no more. Its like you made Amazon or Facebook you should've became a overnight millionaire from that company. God has a path and Titan overcame it and look at him now adversity happens for a reason

[@Cryton12345]

I love your videos, to think I stumbled on this from r/redit youtube comenters

[@jerrylee747]

money changes people-sorry you got screwed over buddy. Your former boss should have included you in those negotiations with the buyer once he promised you that CEO position. I would never trust him again-because you and his promise to you evidently never crossed his mind when the buyer flashed the cash for the business. He traded his word and professional ethics for quick cash-at your expense. I'd never do business with him again

[@g1expert102]

He got rich and he got sloppy

[@MOAB-UT]

You barked and he bit. You threatened to leave him first. You were also a bit naïve. You also quit before the new company could have hooked you up. You were an employee- be it probably a great one, but one who was making demands the OWNER simply did not agree to so he strung you along. It happens every day. Next time, get a more binding contract that a real lawyer reviews and build in outs where if something like this happens, you still get paid. His request to have you slowly transition over 1 year at low pay was a huge red flag. Also, I don't know, bad mouthing and trashing the guy who gave you your start isn't a good look to future customers. In the future will you make a negative video about customers who you interprets did wrong by you? Just do you- do good work and good $$$ will follow- period. Trashing people gets views I suppose which is what most care about these days There are always TWO sides to every story. You were an employee. He valued you but wasn't about to give you HIS business or meet your "or else" demands. I'm sure he hooked you up in other ways you left out (days off, bonuses, etc.) He probably did set you up to be a manager at the new company but you bailed. You should have stuck around during the transition to see how it went and negotiate a solid contract. Before you come down on me, understand that I really don't have a dog in this fight, nor do I really care about you or him. This is simply how it is. Deal with it- or not.

[@lawrencecole6527]

Dude if I have to see that same stupid CNC eagle head again and again I'll personally put hardened steel ball bearings in every aluminum melt in the world. It's a simple impossibility for you to gain more from being a machinist than you put in. Unfortunately a suckers game and if you suffer under the illusion your ahead it's because someone else is giving to you beyond their ability because the simple truth is just that.

[@MatthewLoney]

I double checked and ya sounds like you never signed a contract with this guy to garentee that transition into you become the president of the company and him being able to retire so when he sold the company like he did the only person to blame is really you. The owner probably got an irrefusable offer for the company that would of gave him way more money than any checks you'd be sending him so ya he sold the company you being there or not is literally not his concern anymore and all you did was just throw away a top level position, now did you turn it around? Ya as we can all see but don't kid yourself by saying this guy screwed you, you only screwed yourself by not putting this agreement down on some legal documents.

[@MatthewLoney]

Also really strange to be saying that this is your only shot to own a company when 1. You already said you wouldn't be owning it 2. A company making the kind of production you are talking about is probably paying you close to 6 figures so you can just take that money save it up and pay for you own company after the 4 years if you were actually working for broke at that production level again you are only fucking yourself over. Edit: a 3rd also I don't think you give notice for contract work lol you just don't sign the next contract if he was near the end of that 4 year contract there is no notice to give you just say well I'm not signing that new contract I'm just leaving once it's done.