Back To Basics!...Federal Power Shock vs Fusion .30-30 AMMO Test!

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Tools&Targets

Tools&Targets

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@pcolice
@pcolice Жыл бұрын
The .30-30 is underrated. It isn’t fast or flat, but the bullets designed for that performance window work pretty much perfectly.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yep
@765outdoors
@765outdoors Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more! It doesn’t need more speed for that bullet design, just works well
@billy5330
@billy5330 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more that’s what were using here at our Homestead for deer season this year😊
@Highgear145
@Highgear145 Жыл бұрын
If it isn't flat then how am I always on target? I'm a budget hunter which means I don't need a $3000 gun to bag a my game
@FMDad-dm5qo
@FMDad-dm5qo Жыл бұрын
Yep. So many decades of hunting experience = the bullets are super dialed in at this point
@3rdpig
@3rdpig Жыл бұрын
My first rifle was a 94 Winchester in 30-30, bought new at JC Penny for $74.99 when I was 16 years old. I still own it and it's still one of my favorite hunting rifles. From deer to hogs, the 30-30 gets it done. And yea, either of those would be fine. Thanks Tools, now I need to buy more 30-30 ammo!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Very nice.😎👊
@patrickbolthouse7354
@patrickbolthouse7354 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, now JC Penny only sells sports bras and legging. They're going the way of K Mart.
@mot0rhe4d40
@mot0rhe4d40 Жыл бұрын
Good thing is, you can actually find 30-30 ammo now 👍
@spwiggins
@spwiggins Жыл бұрын
I have the exact JC Penney purchased Winchester Model 94 rifle as well.
@rsbreeze
@rsbreeze Жыл бұрын
The best gun is your first gun. I still have my Mossberg Master Mag 20 Guage that has a stamp Coast to Coast Hardware on side plate from 70s.
@mattjensen73
@mattjensen73 Жыл бұрын
I love 30-30 it's such a soft shooting cartridge and has plenty of power to take down bigger game. My dad's old Winchester Model 94 still shoots like a dream to this day
@benjaminhuberty5888
@benjaminhuberty5888 Жыл бұрын
I love it too. Can't afford to shoot it anymore. $9 a box 3 years ago was fun.... $22-25 is wack. Went from a target gun to wall princess.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
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@roosterboy7357
@roosterboy7357 Жыл бұрын
Mine used to do the same until I traded it at a gun show like an idiot for an SKS and $150. No, I didn’t get $150, I gave it. If only I had a time machine..
@roosterboy7357
@roosterboy7357 Жыл бұрын
It was a 94 A. I traded it with the scope and $150
@crankygunreviews
@crankygunreviews Жыл бұрын
Soft shooting unless its in a light gun with metal buttplate lol. I get a sore shoulder with my little Sears model 54 with steel butt plate.
@Steve-yo4ld
@Steve-yo4ld Жыл бұрын
The 30.30 is a tried and true round, you can't ever go wrong with it!✌️ Another awesome video, thank you!👍
@i8as
@i8as Жыл бұрын
30-30 is amazing. It dumps so much energy quickly and still penetrates good. And its not a bear to handle!
@Mike-jb5mv
@Mike-jb5mv Жыл бұрын
I'm sticking to basics😊 Walmart best place for 30-30 if you can find it. That blue box was 19.99
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@johnnorman7708
@johnnorman7708 5 ай бұрын
That blue box special at Walmart is a bit higher price than it used to be. But it is still the cheapest.
@ronaldbarnes8302
@ronaldbarnes8302 Жыл бұрын
The 30-30 has always been one of my favorites. Not a hot rod cartridge but gets the job done. Impressive results, thanks for the test Tools!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yessir 😎👊
@truthhurts7836
@truthhurts7836 Жыл бұрын
Haven't fired the 30-30 in years. It used to be my deer hunting gun, but I don't hunt anymore, so it just sits in the safe. Appreciate all you do. Keep the videos coming 👍.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
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@jeremyshackelford8080
@jeremyshackelford8080 Жыл бұрын
The Power Shocks are widely available around my area. They are also cheaper than most. Glad to see good results from them
@stevesmith756
@stevesmith756 Жыл бұрын
Got my dads marlin 336 after passed recently. Fun gun to shoot but 30-30 ammo prices are expensive now. I learned on that rifle as a kid. Good memories on the 30-30. You have a great Channel sir
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. Appreciate you!
@davehoward2791
@davehoward2791 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive results. Every deer I’ve seen shot by the .30-30 has dropped like they were hit by a dump truck, and after seeing what those bullets do in the gel it’s understandable. Not the flashiest round out there these days but still 100% capable of getting the job done. Love the .30-30! Great video, thanks! 👍
@pablosuarez4592
@pablosuarez4592 Жыл бұрын
I took down a Caribou bull at 279 yards with my Marlin 336 30-30 and 160gr Hornady. Dropped in his tracks. I have many very nice rifles, but that 30-30 is my SHTF gun.😊
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
💥🐃💥
@scarifrougeone7225
@scarifrougeone7225 Жыл бұрын
30-30 was my first hunting rifle. Awesome caliber, big fan here. I always used the 170gr. I usually stuck with the Remington SP core Lokt 170gr. The Federal Power Shok reminds of those. Great test and shot placement. Very informative. 170gr. Goes through brush like a like a tornado , straight path. Thanks for sharing and be safe. ⭐️⭐️🇺🇸⭐️⭐️
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate ya!😎👊
@kens17761
@kens17761 Жыл бұрын
Still have my 30-30 I bought from Western Auto decades ago! Still love that rifle!! Thanks for another great video!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Used to love going in the Western Auto.😎👊
@jf1228
@jf1228 Жыл бұрын
With performance like that, you don't choose. Let your gun choose which one it likes (groups) better. Accuracy is as important as bullet performance. Many of my rifles love the Fusion (1/4 to 1/2" groups all day long). My newest one doesn't like it though, it prefers the Federal Terminal Ascent. That Power Shock was impressive though. Great job on the test as usual. Would love to see you test the Terminal Ascent in. 308 Win.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Local shop may have some of that. RK had some a while back but it was basically the price of a car payment.😆
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 Жыл бұрын
From what I saw the Power-Shok hit with more authority, It just seemed to jump the jelly harder, but like you said, both did very well, No problem with either, another thing I've not mentioned before is your channel supports the 2160-4K HD, and since I have got my fiber wi-fi doing great, I can now watch it like I should, Thanks Brian, really enjoyed it, have a great weekend. 👍🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice. Seems like most folks watch on their phones now but I still make most stuff 4k for big screens. I watch on a 4k monitor myself. Appreciate ya, brother!😎👊
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 Жыл бұрын
👍@@ToolsandTargets
@tlock4616
@tlock4616 Жыл бұрын
I used power shock for deer in Nort Dakota, 150 gr in 30-30 and 30-06. Both were devastating. Thr fusions looked good, but I'll probably stick with power shocks. Great video as always!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@tlock4616
@tlock4616 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets I've been telling all my "tools" friends about your channel.. hope it bumps your numbers. You deserve more subs.
@jstephen45
@jstephen45 Жыл бұрын
I'd say that feud was not settled. I'd like to see that performance from a similar bullet in a 7.62x39 or 300 Blackout. I always here those 2 compared to 30-30 but I've yet to see results like these. Keep up the good work T and T!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Funny you mention that. I have some Power Shock in x39 and just ordered some Power Shok and Fusion in 300blk.😎👍
@techfixr2012
@techfixr2012 Жыл бұрын
.30 WCF will win under 200 yards compared to x29, .300 black is a loser all the way around.
@jstephen45
@jstephen45 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets I'll be watching for those new tests, sounds great!
@johnw391
@johnw391 Жыл бұрын
I have .300 BO and 7.62 x 39 both about 150 yard guns. I run .308 150.00 SST projectiles but I have wanted a .30-.30
@blacklight6200
@blacklight6200 Жыл бұрын
​@@ToolsandTargetsI was hoping for some 30-30 vs 7.62x39 as well so I'm glad to hear it!
@richardguajardo2393
@richardguajardo2393 Жыл бұрын
Love the ol trusty dirty-thirty, I have a couple boxes of the federal power Shok on hand, however my rifle a marlin 336 shoots the Hornady leverevolution the most accurate and to date I've taken my biggest buck a big 10 pt with the Hornady LE, the buck dropped DRT on the spot.
@mrmatt7210
@mrmatt7210 6 ай бұрын
In a world where marketing advertises velocity is king, the 30-30 is often overlooked. However, if your shots are less than 200yrds , the 30-30 with a 170gr bullet is difficult to beat. The large softpoint tip expands nicely and the penetration is more than adequate for medium to large sized game. I could hunt a lifetime with a 30-30 and or 35 Rem and not feel I've needed more.
@hoffpbass
@hoffpbass Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! I have a couple boxes of PowerShoks and 1 box the Fusion. And 170gn is the preferred deer cartridge for penetration. My Winchester 94 does great with both the PowerShocks and Remington CoreLokts. But of recent years, I think Federal pulled ahead in performance slightly. But now I know the difference in these 2 projectiles, even for my 308. Many thanks, Tools! Appreciate the Common Hunter round testing -- it's a true public service. 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Two more good ones.😎👍
@lorentcase1023
@lorentcase1023 11 ай бұрын
Iv used the old 30:30. For 50 years taken hundreds of critters and deer it's never let me down. Best in my opinion. In the Ozark forest.
@jacobkean03
@jacobkean03 Жыл бұрын
My brother bought a 30.30 when he was 18 to use for a deer rifle. He took me hunting the year after when I was 8 and let me use it over my dads 12 gauge slug gun so I wouldn’t be suffering after I shot a deer because I was a pretty small kid at that age. I hit a 6 point with it and even for my size and age it felt like a pretty soft shooting gun compared to what I’ve shot before and the deer only made it about 20 yards before he collapsed. If you use it within its parameters it’s a fantastic hunting round.
@gwidwock
@gwidwock 7 ай бұрын
I picked up a brand new Henry 30-30 20" all steel with large loop. I believe it's identical to yours. Also a box of Federal Hammer Down and Hornady Lever Evolution as I saw you tested both. I know how they will perform. I will be reloading the 30-30. Thanks again for the video.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 Жыл бұрын
Excellent deer getter with both. Black bear and hog also. Thank you Sir.
@leroycaudill96
@leroycaudill96 Жыл бұрын
30 30 is one of my favorite rifles they look good good test Tools and good shooting .
@MattC-eo6ep
@MattC-eo6ep 9 ай бұрын
My 1970's vintage micro-groove Marlin 336 loves both the 150gr and 170gr Fusions, very accurate. For some reason the Power Shock 150gr is not as accurate in my gun. They all have the terminal ballistics to flatten a deer of a hog. The classic .30-30 is definitely still one of the best medium game cartridges up to 200 yards. Combined with a fast and handy lever action rifle, you can't beat it in the woods. Keep up the great videos TnT!
@currituck
@currituck Жыл бұрын
I use federal blue box and fusion. Both great. I suspect the fusion and hammer down both use the fusion bullet. Marketing thing.
@FMDad-dm5qo
@FMDad-dm5qo Жыл бұрын
I always like seeing 30-30 tests; they all seem to go like this: (1) this round is way old (2) hmm velocities seem low compared to modern stuff (3) [hits the gel] whoa, that would 100% kill the heck out of a whitetail
@brianjordan-5357
@brianjordan-5357 Жыл бұрын
Are there people not in the 30-30 camp? It's not a fancy cartridge, but it definitely has it's place.
@JamesJones-cx5pk
@JamesJones-cx5pk 7 ай бұрын
I grew up with the old 170 flat nose 30-30. They hammer deer just fine. At those speeds I don't believe you need a bonded bullet. The "Lever Evolution" s 150 with the soft tip, gives the 30-30 a better BC and shoots a bit flatter.
@kentuckywindage222
@kentuckywindage222 Жыл бұрын
I started with a slug then, Thuddy - Thuddy. Like a lot of folks. Remington Core-lok, Winchester Soft point and Federal all worked great. The Winchester Silver box I've used from 220 Swift to 300 Win Mag and it was the best price in my area back then. 243 100gr Silver box 11.99. I still have a couple boxes put up. When getting above 2800 fps a bonded bullet holds together better in my experiences. Most of that is on whitetail. Cup n core bullets have worked for year's. Are there improved bullet designs, absolutely but dead is dead. With that said, I wouldn't feel out gunned if this were my primary protection weapon with practice. A leather sleeve on the butt stock with extra rounds. Similair to the 7.62 x 39 military cartridge. Very potent within its parameters. Excellent job as per usual Tool's. Keep'em coming!
@rjoetting7594
@rjoetting7594 Жыл бұрын
I have an 1894 rifle 26" barrel made in 1917, and the federal fusion 150 gr is absolutely the most accurate ammo I've ever used in 30 WCF (30-30) And I've used just about everything else, including my own handloads. Open sights, original Marbles tang peep. Five shots 1.25 inches and usually two or three touching (using a lead sled). The 170 gr is not that great. 3.5" is my best at 100 yards (usually closer to 4") with the same rifle. Lever evolution accuracy is about the same as 170 gr fusion.
@steveb6103
@steveb6103 Жыл бұрын
I've taken deer with both. My scope is almost that high. But my rings let me use the iron sites. For those close in shots.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea.😎👍
@william16845
@william16845 6 ай бұрын
I love the 30-30 testing brother..it's the first ever smokeless cartridge and it's still popular and being used everywhere to this day..
@frankkrejci6560
@frankkrejci6560 18 күн бұрын
The only thing I like about the see-through rings is that you could also use iron sights I have them on my Remington 7600 308
@jakeoutdoors9600
@jakeoutdoors9600 Жыл бұрын
That Power Shock is extremely accurate out of my 30-30 TC Contender pistol. That pistol shoots under an inch with that ammo at 100 yards. Other factory ammo best group I can get is about an inch and a half.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Always nice to have a gun that likes decent priced ammo.😎👍
@nikos6220
@nikos6220 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Up to 150 yards a winner bring home the smaller deer meat load and rifle combo. Wouldn’t use it further out and on heavier game. My pedestrian 20’ 30-06 has double the energy at 100.
@racecitypatriot66
@racecitypatriot66 Жыл бұрын
30-30 and 30-06 my favorite two caliber. With the green tip 30-06 never had any deer run off. All but one dropped where they was shot. One doe ran 10 yards.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
I need to do some 30-06 tests.😎👍
@rob6850
@rob6850 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargetshave you seen the Bear Creek Huntmaster rifles? .30-'06 and the like in AR type package. Could be an interesting platform for you to test?
@nikos6220
@nikos6220 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets there are for sure some interesting tests to be had. I would start with a stark difference to get the camps exited and the comment section red hot 😂 - Copper Mono vs. Cup-and-Core, Barnes TTSX 150 grain vs. Hornady ELD-X 178 grain
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Haven't seen those. I have a Remington Woodsmaster in .30-06 @@rob6850
@RL-RL
@RL-RL Жыл бұрын
.30-30 is my favorite lever acrion round. Deer season is in, and when gun season comes in it "Looks like meats back on the table boys"! 🤣 You're a great shot with that Henry and scope combo as well!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya, brother!😎👊
@Moss535
@Moss535 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video Tools, thank you for doing the Federal comparison, been waiting on it, and i knew it wouldn't disappoint. Both rounds did really did, that fusion is good in any caliber i believe whether its 30-30 or 556, its a winner, but power shok is no push over, id take federals offerings over most standards i believe. Thanks again for doing this test!!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya, brother. Definitely no loser here.😎👍
@rogerray2545
@rogerray2545 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much brother for doing the 3030 test
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya, my friend!😎👊
@matthewgroff433
@matthewgroff433 8 ай бұрын
I have a Marlin 336CS .30-30 win. I usually shoot the Remington PSP Kore-Lokt ammo either with the 170 grain bullets or the 150 grain bullets. I did buy a box of the Federal, I believe, Powershock ammo, but I forget if it is with the 150 grain bullets or the 170 grain bullets. I have yet to shoot them in my rifle.
@wolfpack2723
@wolfpack2723 Ай бұрын
What causes the flash sometimes in the gel, I see it a lot but no one ever really explains what happens. Good testing, I use 150 grain in my .30-30 Smaller deer in this area than up north. It just works excellent on deer.
@SWATT101
@SWATT101 2 ай бұрын
Just sighted in my Marlin with a crappy Banner scope on a crappy rest. Ended up with a three shot 1 inch group on center@ 100yrds with the Power shock...good enough for me.
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 Жыл бұрын
👍👍great test tools. I have used both those in 150 gr along with the Remington core lokt in 150gr and they are all deadly on deer.
@jeffreybean5363
@jeffreybean5363 Жыл бұрын
Great Ammo test Tools for the 30 - 30 impressive. I usually run 150 grain for my model 94.
@racecitypatriot66
@racecitypatriot66 Жыл бұрын
Like bunch other that have commented. 30-30 was my first high power rifle. Thanks for the test tools.👍🇺🇲
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Still one of the coolest!😎👊
@joeyphillips1181
@joeyphillips1181 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see some 150 grain projectiles because thats just usually the weight i have gotten
@ph99331
@ph99331 Жыл бұрын
hey Tools I know this has nothing to do with 30-30 but about civil defense ammo 45 cal to be exact, at my range at 10 to 15 yards it was key hole ...ing on my. have you ever seen that? it was a Kimber 5 inch barrel....i thought my gun was messed up. I put regular ammo in and it was fine
@pistolgrip44mag
@pistolgrip44mag Жыл бұрын
Looking at picking up the new Rossi R95 in 30-30.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
The only thing that keeps me from buying a Rossi is that safety. Same with current Marlins and their crossbolt looking safety right through the receiver.😆
@pistolgrip44mag
@pistolgrip44mag Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Yeah, my Marlin 336 in .35 Rem is like that and I bought it new in the late 1980's.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Ahh, I figured it was a new thing since Ruger took over.@@pistolgrip44mag
@crankygunreviews
@crankygunreviews Жыл бұрын
I had bought a ton of Remington Core-Lokt 30-30 for about $10.50 a box at wally world before covid hit they were blowing it out. Now any 30-30 is like $25 and up a box, usually over $30 a box
@wildchild4163
@wildchild4163 Жыл бұрын
Im in North Dakota been using Remington 150 gr for over 40 years with Winchester pre 93 . Have made sum 200 yard shots . I practice on a nice flat dirt field to get my hold over . Make sure the hot brass don't land on the horses rear with a top eject 😊 .
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
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@cttaylor01
@cttaylor01 Жыл бұрын
I hunt with Fusion and target shoot with Power Shock. I figure the bonding helps prevent the possibility of lead in my meat. I could probably save some money and only buy Power Shok, but heck, at .50 a bullet more, I can handle spending an extra couple bucks a year to know I'm using quality ammo for my kills.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 8 ай бұрын
Tools & Targets, if you can pull it off, you'd be the first person on the platform who's tested Buffalo Bore 190gr .30-30 in gel. But make sure to have 3 blocks. I'd love to see this load tested. The Barnes Pioneer 190gr was tested but Buffalo Bore promises a good bit more velocity and runs a Hawk bullet. BB are expensive and you'll have to order them. Just keep an eye out.
@joeyphillips1181
@joeyphillips1181 Жыл бұрын
The power shok seems to be the one i would pick because im pretty sure they are cheaper
@bigtrev761
@bigtrev761 Жыл бұрын
🇦🇺😎👍Hey mate , love the Dirty Thirty….170 grainers are great 👍…the steel target is ringing like a church bell down here in Australia…those brands are pretty hexi down here…just about lit the jelly on fire….MAN 😳, savage entry…..it’s understandable how the 30 30 puts the game down…devastating results , love all those projectiles….fantastic results big guy….would be great to see how PPU would turn out ? …. That’s for that , bestest science videos on KZbin 🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
It was slappin that steel good!🤠👊
@johngrunwell
@johngrunwell Жыл бұрын
Federal Power SHOK 170gr is all I run with a dime size group at 50 and 100 yards (3 round group) with my Marlin 336CS. Great ammo for deer esp. in the brush. It’s a very flat shooting run out to 150 yards. But both were more than great. Great video. 👏🏻
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice 😎
@WytesOwnley
@WytesOwnley 4 ай бұрын
Do you have a32 special? I'll send you some ammo to try out if you do. Shooting jackets and Leverevolution against black powder cast loads you won't believe the results. I don't have jelly , that would be neat to see🎉🎉🎉
@blurryface1975
@blurryface1975 Жыл бұрын
i use the 150gr in 308 and 30-30 in the federal non typical soft points, which i think are basically the same thing as the power shocks in the blue box
@razieldrakis
@razieldrakis 6 ай бұрын
You should test out Federal Premium 170grain .30-30 Nosler Partitions.
@jace3802
@jace3802 Жыл бұрын
Great test I love my winchester 94, im thinking about picking up a henry x so I can run my suppressor on it.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Local RK has a .410 X Model in stock that was really tempting.😆
@toddk1377
@toddk1377 Жыл бұрын
I like the 30-30, it's been a good cartridge for me over the years, on hogs and deer alike. Had a Winchester 94, bought it in rough shape, but it shot very well. Sold it and bought a nice Sears model 54, pretty much the same thing, but this was in great condition and it's cool it says Sears on it though it was made by Winchester. I've used mostly remington corelokts in mine, but I've taken deer with the remingtons and the winchester loads, they seem to perform identical from my experience. I have tons of the Hornady stuff but haven't used it yet, I only bought that because it was on sale for a price I couldn't pass up during the ammo crunch when 30-30 was almost impossible to get.
@kathygates8845
@kathygates8845 Жыл бұрын
WOW TOOL ..!!!! THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS $$$ ... !!!!!! GREAT VIDEO TOOL ...!!!!! DOUBLE G. "GARY" ..! ! !
@Buck112
@Buck112 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. More old school round tests would be cool, if you have the time.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
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@CM-nq3so
@CM-nq3so Жыл бұрын
Yes! This is the video I have been waiting on. Thank you! 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
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@billdye3530
@billdye3530 Жыл бұрын
Boom Boom Time Both will do great on a Chinese Spy Balloon 🎈. Figured it might be close. Hard to beat a big soft nosed round. Still doing between 1800 to 1860fps at 100yds. Good stuff. Thanks!! 🙏💥👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
💥🎈💥
@billdye3530
@billdye3530 Жыл бұрын
​@@ToolsandTargetsThat's the best kind of legalized mushrooms you can have. 🍄
@todhurley3756
@todhurley3756 Жыл бұрын
That gun works perfect with see thru sight's. That way you can use the regular sights and the scope.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
True 😎👍
@Roosterboy_00
@Roosterboy_00 5 ай бұрын
Federal feud jelly time 😂 you’ve always got a good one for jelly time. I would say I only tune in to see what kind of jelly time it’s going to be but I’d be lying. Awesome video brother
@riflemaster1
@riflemaster1 Жыл бұрын
Great video, the 30-30 does it again
@johnnorman7708
@johnnorman7708 Жыл бұрын
The .30-30 with 170 grain bullets runs out of velocity before it runs out of bullet. You cant get a bullet failure at those speeds. Even with the 150 grain counterparts you usually get more expansion because of velocity while still hanging together fairly well, but they are more prone to fragmentation and weight loss. The Fusion and Hammer down bullets are very similar if not identical in their designs.
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou Жыл бұрын
Probably the same speer projectile since they are all the same company. The 44 magnun hammer down is a 270 grain speer deepcurl
@johnnorman7708
@johnnorman7708 Жыл бұрын
@@WayStedYou I assume that Speer probably is running a lot of the bullets that are going into Federal ammo these days. Very likely all 4 corporate divisions, Remington, Federal, CCI, and Speer are operating at full capacity and sharing whatever they need to keep the machines humming 24/7. Ive noted that many Speer bullets at Midway are out of stock and not available.
@kentwilliams3326
@kentwilliams3326 3 ай бұрын
I really like the consistency of the Fusion rounds…
@miker9043
@miker9043 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the test Tools ! 30-30 is still a fantastic choice for hunting !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Definitely is.😎👊
@lutherpayne9957
@lutherpayne9957 Жыл бұрын
Not bad for a cartridge designed in 1895 as the first production smokeless powder cartridge. Never had a game animal run off after getting hit with one. I do prefer Winchester 150 grain Power Points. My Marlin doesn't like Federal rounds.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@gwidwock
@gwidwock Жыл бұрын
Actually I liked the Henry 30-30. I have the Big Boy All Steal 20" in 44 Mag and 357 Mag. My next Henry is the 30-30 all steal 20". I like the Henry. I put the big loop lever on both guns. I was impressed with the way the 30-30 bullets expanded. I didn't think they would since no hollow point. Great video, Thanks!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Love these Henry lever actions.🤠👍
@moni1120
@moni1120 Жыл бұрын
I love .30-30 in my Marlin, best round for shooting water jugs!
@randlerichardson5826
@randlerichardson5826 Жыл бұрын
Tools if you could hold a round that’s not fired up besides the fired bullet it would show the big difference buddy. Be safe GOD BLESS
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@whiskey4553
@whiskey4553 Жыл бұрын
Have you done a test comparing 30-30 Fusion to 7.62x39 Fusion?
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
No but that is something I have been wanting to do. 300blk in that mix too.
@terryrichards8645
@terryrichards8645 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ll definitely like the 170 fusion. That would definitely work well for me.😊
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@goodnewseverybody739
@goodnewseverybody739 Жыл бұрын
At those velocities bonded isn’t that big of a deal I guess, in 5.56 or 7.62 bonded is great at closer ranges, but don’t drop the extra coin if you don’t need to, right?
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@einarhornraiser9019
@einarhornraiser9019 Жыл бұрын
Terrific illustration of how similarly these cartridges perform. I see both of these in a ton of different calibres on the shelf here (NW Georgia) and have always suspected that they're pretty doggone similar. I'd love to see this comparison in .44 Mag, although I'm not sure it's available in Power Shock.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@andrewblackmon6165
@andrewblackmon6165 10 ай бұрын
so I'm guessing the only difference between hammer down and and fusion is the nickel plated brass?
@billyj.williams2341
@billyj.williams2341 Жыл бұрын
Awesome performance from both. 30WCF has been a great cartridge for over 100 years... Hard to believe you could buy that Federal Powershok for like 16.99 a box few years ago... over 25 a box at my Walmart niw., when they have some
@danlindgren4290
@danlindgren4290 Жыл бұрын
I live in a straight wall state and I can’t find bonded 44 magnum anywhere. If you have some spare 44 mag lying around, could you run a few SJHPs through your Henry into the gel. I’m looking for what expands, but fragments the least. I can find both Hornadys, but I know they fragment. Thinking I might go with Barnes Vor-Tx, but that stuff is weak. If you have that, include it as well. Don’t want to waste a bunch of meat due to lead fragments.
@danlindgren4290
@danlindgren4290 Жыл бұрын
Or better yet, the Barnes bullets loaded by Underwood. I can get those in 3-4 days.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
I have quite a few different .44 mag rounds I can test. I definitely have some Barnes.
@jeremyd8778
@jeremyd8778 11 ай бұрын
If you use a soft point instead of hollow points you get less lead fragments.
@bruceshelton5043
@bruceshelton5043 9 ай бұрын
Both awesome, normally is bonded better than one that is not bonded ?
@sakic1519
@sakic1519 9 ай бұрын
Just found your channel. Fantastic review. New sub!
@edjett2631
@edjett2631 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I want a 30-30 rifle so bad.
@CharlesCothern-r2t
@CharlesCothern-r2t Ай бұрын
I love your videos Is there anyway you can do some jell test at 100 yards with 300 blackout?
@bigracer3867
@bigracer3867 Жыл бұрын
Thurdy is cool sold mine. Ammo ridiculously expensive for it. Went to 308. I can actually find the ammo where I live. Thx for the video!!!
@philipmastroeni6789
@philipmastroeni6789 Жыл бұрын
I hope it's cooler out there Many many deer were taken with the 30 30 win good hunting round Did you have a hard time getting that scope sighted in my nephew had a hell of time
@randycecil7375
@randycecil7375 Жыл бұрын
30-30 may be my favorite rifle round. I have have many others, but I just like 30-30 best
@jamesmikesell5458
@jamesmikesell5458 Жыл бұрын
Love the 30-30 . I deer hunt with it yearly. I would have no problem using either. I use 150
@chrislang5659
@chrislang5659 Жыл бұрын
Good info, being 30-30 is one of my favorites! ❤
@380master9
@380master9 Жыл бұрын
You have to do the Buffalo Bore 380 Barnes x tdc 80 grain
@adamthomson2873
@adamthomson2873 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. The 30-30 and Henry is a perfect match.
@calvineller9425
@calvineller9425 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see 30-30 VS 35, I have one and love it. Hard to find ammo. I enjoy the videos. Thanks
@blurryface1975
@blurryface1975 Жыл бұрын
some tests on 308win hunting ammo would be cool as well, preferably in 150gr
@fightingbear8537
@fightingbear8537 6 ай бұрын
The handy hunting carbine!
@itsjustjoe3790
@itsjustjoe3790 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the data
@lawrencehudson9939
@lawrencehudson9939 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for jell testing at 50 yards. Hunting pistol bullets should also be tested at this range.
@treetop.garage
@treetop.garage Жыл бұрын
Definitely a underated round ..great video tools
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.🤠👊
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