BACK To The MOON!!! In KSP 10% Science mode. It's time to choose the next course of action. \ 18

[@bskramer1011]

7 - terrier and larger fuel tank to start farming other bodies

[@aidengregory6825]

@@bskramer1011 yeah then he could farm both of Kerbans moons

[@elijahwills7331]

The long awaited lunar return! Plane parts are fun, but won't speed up the science grind rn. Getting the terrier will allow you to build smaller upper stages, and that same node includes larger tanks... Struts become a bit less necessary id say? Advanced rocketry or construction for sure. 10% science mode is a nice reminder of good 'ol solar nations!

[@logandarklighter]

First off - *GET -* *THE -* *STRUTS!!!!!* As big a fan as I am of aviation parts and being able to travel over the surface of Kerbin (and later Laythe). You DO need the SCIENCE. And that lander of yours is a GOOD one - all it needs is a better set of boosters to get it to the Mun or Minmus. Ideally you should only START using the fuel in the lander itself like Apollo used the fuel on-board the Service Module - to SLOW DOWN and get into orbit of the Mun - and then - to land, take off and get back home with. The only way to DO that is with a better BOOSTER. You need the equivalent of either a Saturn 5 or N1 first stage for getting about 3/4 of the way out of the atmosphere. A good second stage that gets you into orbit of Kerbin. And a third stage left attached to the lander like the S-4B. That third stage (and maybe a tiny 4th one for Minmus) is what you need to get the lander on its way to the Mun. And you cannot do THAT without the STRUTS and the Launch clamps! (You might even be able to split up the lander into a Command stage and Lunar lander if you use the tiny little engines and a very small lander that uses those little engines - but the larger lander would still likely work.) I'm all for the plane parts at the appropriate stages of this career. But right now - this is NOT the time. You're running out of science on Kerbin itself. NOW's the time to truly land on the Mun or Minmus and get that science to bootstrap your program! If anything - landing on Minmus might be easier and safer to do! You might consider going THERE first regardless of anything else you do!

[@logandarklighter]

I might also add a TLDR - Struts will get you the SCIENCE. Aviation will get you the MONEY. Get the science first so you can get the money on the following round!

[@MikeAben]

I think you made the right call not going for the landing, especially from that polar orbit. You had a lot of fuel for the return, but in case it comes up again when you don't, the best time to have ejected would have been when the plane of the polar orbit was tangential to the Mun's orbit. That way you can eject yourself going retrograde to the Mun's direction about Kerbin. I hope that makes sense.

[@logandarklighter]

Totally agreed. Could it have worked? Possibly. But the probability of a miscalculation or mistake that leaves the Kerbinauts stranded on the Mun was too great.

[@vaos3712]

Great to see you! Yaaaaaa..... I goofed up lol😆😅

[@lianaeschlimann9827]

I'd say go for 9 so you can get science from the mun and minmus.

[@Orient3m]

10% science mode makes the most chaotic but creative rocket designs to ever exist istg, keep it up man these videos are amazing. One question I have is why you use capsules instead of nose cones? I assume you haven’t unlocked the node yet but who knows

[@somethingforsenro]

that would be because he has no capsules capable of holding multiple kerbals, so he needs to strap on multiple capsules instead

[@guesswho2778]

@@somethingforsenro i think they were talking about the capsules acting as nosecones on the boosters.

[@alalalus7692]

@@guesswho2778 This is most likely because they have reaction wheels inside for better stability

[@vaos3712]

reaction wheels mostly but aerodynamic nose cones are new tech and i didn’t have time to rebuild the design for the video. 😢

[@Orient3m]

@@vaos3712I do not blame you regarding not wanting to rebuild the whole rocket lol 😂 btw I think 7 would be better as you can have an efficient enough engine to actually land on the mün by just replacing the reliant with the terrier on the second stage!

[@ITSARLOOL]

I’d say 9, then 7, and then only research planes when you unlock surface sampling. That way you can farm as much science on the moon and once you unlock surface sampling, you can research plane parts to do a much cheaper tour of kerbin to get all the samples

[@TomGreen-zk8ik]

agreed all the way sir

[@somethingforsenro]

#9 all the way! Autostrut FTW! You can probably use the abort button to shut down engines, so the abort capsule won't get trapped on top of the rocket like it did in the first mission this episode. Might even make the lower stages partially recoverable, if you're early enough in flight…

[@vaos3712]

lol😂 you can’t shut down solid fuel boosters 😢

[@Ski55]

Terrier gets you easy and cheap probe landings on the mun and minmus to quickly unlock the struts and aviation nodes.

[@JohnAslin]

In the immortal words of John Lennon: "Number nine, number nine, number nine..."

[@brianriley5108]

'To the moon Alice!' (Whichever one helps to get you back to the moon)

[@Elim_Garak]

Looks pretty unanimous already: We all wanna watch you strut, Vaos ❤😂

[@Elim_Garak]

🤔💬There a way we can pickup a Willzyx (or Tom Cruise) contract? 🌒🐋

[@ltambrosekurt2]

NO WAY BRO, He has the knowledge to make solid-ish designs by using the game engine, he needs more Delta V, the Terrier and bigger fuel tanks would make it WAAAY easier to land on the mun, and once he lands, he will probably get all the science he needs to unlock the struts AND aviation.

[@Zonalar]

9+ is my choice. more planes, more cool. I do not feel strongly about these choices, but you gave me a vote and I feel compelled to use it :D

[@chrisbacon3071]

Just got off work a few hours ago and now I’m watching a VAOS video, life couldn’t be better.

[@justovision]

General construction. Crew cabin also makes tourist missions easier and cheaper go farm money.

[@lordzoral9997]

Special mention for the X3 musics, making every video a mix of awesomness and nostalgic.

[@daskampffredchen]

9 to counter the wobble. That way you can use more SRBs on your first stage and also get closer to docking ports

[@MadPirateShin]

Good point, docking would enable multi-launch missions.

[@СеменСеменыч-у6е]

It's terrier engine. Also couple of notes: to get back to the main body from a moon the eficient way you better burn toward moon's retrograde, not radial what you did there. Also science! mod should have a green beaker button somewhere that alarms you of new science experiments and allows you to run and collect them from its GUI. Not sure why you don't have it on the toolbar.

[@vaos3712]

Ya I goofed. 😅

[@dpenton]

Really dig this series man. You've got me on the edge of my seat with each episode. You're doing the near impossible, lol. I can't do the 10% science, 50% is challenging enough for me (for now!). I would say get parts that allow you to get to the mun or minmus. That's where more science will be available to you since you have already squeezed kerbin for all the science you possibly can. OR make your way through the tree to obtain more science instruments. Science is key to advancing! GOOD LUCK GUMSHOE!

[@WitcherShade]

Struts! It is pain to watch wobbly rockets

[@JollyRogerAerospace]

Yeah I'm with you, get the struts. You'll get more science in space than the little bits left on Kerbin. I personally think Minmus is easier than the Mun. That's a whole other bucket of science waiting for you and with struts you can easily get there.

[@ncasey9853]

9 seems to be the most sensible, but they are all great choices. It's not just the struts, it's the crew cabin too, which could enable some more tourism options. Alternatively, what you have now works, just about. With the terrier engine, you could get a smaller lander, which means a smaller launcher, which means less wobble too. That's if you're going right for the moon anyway. The plane parts are less science right up, but they unlock more ways to get money and level up some buildings. Are you allowing yourself to use the admin building strategies? You could get a few bail out grants to upgrade buidings, but not sure how they interact with the 10% mode.

[@stuchris]

really thinking that advanced rocketry is the way to go: the terrier is one of the most efficient engines in the game in space, especially for astral bodies with no atmo, like the mun. its your ticket to landing on it safely and efficiently. plus it means getting to most planets (albeit over a longer time frame) efficiently could be possible. also ofc gives larger fuel tanks which tends to help with wobbly rockets. also, the thud engine is a beauty when painted so you get some nice visual options too.

[@brycecollins7550]

I also say 9. Not even taking the struts into consideration, the new crew cabin will help with tourism grinding. With the struts you can make bigger tourist sticks XD

[@glenwestwood3683]

number 9 general construction then go for plane parts when you get more science for space planes to save money

[@KrakinFun]

Love the Surviving Mars Music! ❤

[@foxworthgames]

That lander gives off major Jack in the box vibes

[@Grushaq]

9, You can have muscle mass that allows you to lift a car, but it means nothing without bones

[@Jump_Immortal]

It is now time to get the long awaited Terrier!

[@bearnaff9387]

I think general construction is the way to go. I want to see you reach the SSTO rocket plane era as much as anyone, but getting out to the Mun and Minimus for the science bounty will propel your tech further than being able to build a full spaceliner for tourists. OTOH, if spesos are the limiting factor and you're good with throwing bigger dumb boosters at the near-space bodies, getting those spaceliner designs to replace the Orion might be the way to go. So, if science, then GC. If money, then aviation.

[@experimentalmenace]

Struts

[@lordzoral9997]

#9 General construction it is for me! Allows you to get stronger ships and to minimize for money generation with tourists. Allowing you to get these sweet sweet mun samples.

[@americanhat3766]

You should get general construction *_NOT_* because the auto-struts no no noooo, its the fact that you can easily add more Kerbals and thus more tourists, and can easily retrofit that Mun-orbiter to carry crew and get a boat-load of money from Munar (and minmus) flybys that can upgrade the hell out of the space center. Also could you add parachutes to that 1st stage? when you abort it'll slow down slightly more and allow your Kerbals to GTFO quicker, but also if it works properly and you switch to it, you can see it land and get a lot of money back from that 1st stage.

[@kaulquappentv6888]

Struts all the way to the moon Also gives you a better part for space tourism. And potentially much bigger and complex crafts. ❤

[@SpaceMan-bj5jm]

9, lets finally land on the Moon

[@bmobert]

Get less wobbly rockets. Going back to Mun and getting to Minmus will pay science dividends. Also, x-science had another window. Perhaps you already know this. But there's a waypoint symbol on your toolbar that is also from x-science. This window helps the player with a button that makes science collection a little more automatic, so there's less grief. It's still a grind, but it's less. Check it out. You might find it worth.

[@banditodorito1191]

its a tossup between struts or aviation. the struts would counter the runway death wobble but the wings and passenger cabin would make tourism and SSTO building easier...

[@oldbroom8455]

9. You can basicly allredy land on the moon you just need som struts to keep the kraken at bay

[@blazerayanami5979]

The upgrade that has the Terrier engine is definitely the best on this situation. Although the aviation one would definitely be fun.

[@SSanatobaJR]

9, you really need the struts

[@chazbennett7771]

The number on the side is the amount of parts unlockable in that science tier 😂 I say the planes could be useful

[@foxworthgames]

There were numbers on a few already unlocked. Meaning he added mods that put things in those nodes, he needs to click to unlock

[@Cesar2057]

9, General Construction IS the way

[@Diov514]

Terrier! The ultimate engine.

[@moople9066]

I would take 9 and keep my eyes peeled for a contract to test the Terrier in the mean time. In my 10% save I may or may not have been inspired by this series to start I've been using "borrowed" terriers from a contract for minmus and mun landings, just gotta actually unlock them by the time the contract runs out! You're not part-limited anymore so stability is better than engine efficiency rn

[@TomGreen-zk8ik]

by far and away get 9 general construction, it'll save you such a headache for rocket launches + the inline cabin for tourists considering the ball capsule makes crafts unstable as all hell

[@xerolad4086]

Flight Control.

[@yourbrojohno]

When you are coasting to 70k, keep the whole rocket together till you need to start burning. Any extra mass is just gonna serve to maintain your momentum, fighting the last bit of drag. Especially if the staging results in s draggier craft. This will leave you that little extra DV that you would need for this craft to land and have 50m/s margin coming back.

[@Syntex366]

The terrier is best. Increase your range and fuel so you’ll be able to start mun/Minmus landings to farm surface science, and you can build a cheap rocket that doesn’t need as much weight when you have a terrier’s efficiency cutting the fuel requirements down by literal tons. Struts are nice, but not important with how much the terrier allows you to scale down.

[@kennybevan11]

I agree, 9 definitely

[@Deino-1]

Fantastic job, grabbing science victory from the jaws of defeat.

[@Concavenator_corcovatus]

I think that the terror would be best option, oh can build a much cheaper and smaller moon rocket, do a couple landings, and then have more then enough science to buy the struts and aviation

[@JansenX12]

General COnstruction would make the most sense. With the Struts you can design more stable Crafts that dont require some strange wörk arounds.

[@MonteroJCs]

General Construction!

[@pqddachu]

i have tried 10% science before, personally i think terriers would be the best choice. terrier engines are more efficient meaning you could use smaller crafts to get the same distance. it would negate the need for struts

[@whoshotdk]

Luna class? More like Loony class! VAOS: Where we’re going, we don’t *need* patched conics.

[@vaos3712]

patched conics is overrated.

[@bonisamuel1]

9 - Get some struts

[@thebrick.1385]

9 and 7 should be priority

[@dooku186]

I'd recommend doing math. If you can gain science from using a plane to access other areas WITH a scientist kerbal also on board so you only have to carry 1 experiment. Like a materials study to the bio es on the opposite side of the planet. If you can gain that 45 back or at least most of it I would recommend plane parts first.

[@lightspeedvictory]

Jedediah must be raging so hard, he’s been in orbit around the Mun, what was this mission, mission 4? 4 times with plans to land and each and every time the landing is aborted LOL I vote 9. Safety first and it will allow you access to the Mun’s science, providing much more science to unlock stuff, rather than just trying to squeeze the dregs out of Kerbin which might not have enough to unlock another node

[@ez_theta_z9317]

get construction, get the crew cabins and use those and struts to grind out the cash for tracking station upgrade to get to minmus, that and mun have more than enough science to get you to terriers and from there you can probably even get to duna

[@MarcWeavers]

i use mod called Full Auto Strut to allow me to apply Rigid Attachment to all parts at once (manually disable for all wheels and movable parts afterwards)

[@charlesmurray9053]

Back to the moon with struts! and maybe minmus

[@yanox7463]

The number 9 is really good

[@nighmare.2kytrewq337]

as there is not much science left of kerbin, unlock 7 for terrier engine and use mun+minmus to unlock rest of nodes

[@trr94001]

Your current ship should be able to reach Minmus orbit and farm the science there.

[@vaos3712]

Trying to give it some realism. To small. Kerbal would die before they got there.

[@MinerBat]

also minmus is very hard to get to without the tracking station upgrades giving you maneuver nodes and encounters, the moon is still reachable by doing the horizon trick

[@skinger9567]

It's a tough call between number 9 and number 7 (after all what's even the point of inventing rocketry if you're not going to dump all your money into fireworks?). I think the numbering system's how many parts are unlocked in that tech node, so we may soon get to choose between number 9+, number 9+ and number 9+ under the current system.

[@armin3749]

Either get the struts or get the terrier

[@thamiordragonheart8682]

get general construction (9) so you can get enough money from tourist missions to upgrade the astronaut complex for surface samples before you go to land on the mun.

[@jameskessler8102]

Struts bro!!!!

[@haydenlane-davies4649]

7 is my vote, the bigger tanks and terrier will make mun hopping way easier

[@coffeeAddict74]

If you want the big science payoff you need to go for the Mun landing. I believe there is science and money in the “Plant a flag mission” in addition. To the science you get from the lander. And if you aim it right you can walk your kerbal into a nearby biome and at least get the EVA science. Too bad you don’t have the surface sample unlocked. Bummer!

[@techsbyglebbagrov7470]

Maybe the aviation would give us the contracts to go onto a X spot and Y altitude and make us a pinch more money and funds to get us the lunar crafts we need

[@KerbalAddict]

I think terrier because you can go to the mun, minmus, and gilly way easier

[@gupikot5272]

GENEVA CONSTRUCTION🔥🔥🔥

[@StanislavHorák-u9g]

9 all the way!

[@MinerBat]

get the struts! the main thing holding you back right now is the ability to land on the mun, and for that you need to be able to build bigger and more stable rockets and for that you need the strut. the crew cabin is a nice bonus

[@maksymkara646]

9 for sure

[@aidengregory6825]

Yeah boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii that what I’m talkin bout, finally mother 10% science mode vid, love the series keep up the good work brother.

[@thelegogamer5000]

Any missions where there little green guys get to come home from is a successful one as for what you should get next I think it's 9

[@MrRlspell]

Advanced rocketry

[@pteronoid]

9. struts will help a lot if the part count is high

[@robertstuckey6407]

I think 7 is slightly better than struts. Terrier will make all kinds of orbital operations possible.

[@The808andrew808]

Wow this isn’t Starfield OR zomboid?!?!!!!! Love you vaos

[@MechanizedInfantryProductions]

I recommend 9 and think that struts will save alot of missions from the kraken in the future!!!

[@guesswho2778]

9 also the number on those nodes is how many parts the node contains.

[@purexhavoc9777]

11:28 when you are returning you want to extend your orbit in the muns retrograde direction. Think of the mun as something you rendezvoused with.

[@michaelminecraftplays7773]

You should do 9 The struts are powerful And the passenger bay will alow you to do more Tourism.

[@FatOrangeCat-kyti]

More Mun stuff! Also comment for the algorithm (9)

[@nyaanon]

Terrier is a safe bet I think, It will make your lunar crafts much smaller and thus more stable. Bigger fuel tanks are also nice. That way you could land on the moon multiple times and get that sweet science. I have a feeling aviation will surely improve the coolness factor of you crafts, but will it help with science?

[@ozzy6852]

I say go for struts

[@JonVB-t8l]

... Oh you aren't gonna like this... But I think you need to save for electronics... The octo and most importantly solar panels are gonna allow you to do so much more without risking Jeb. The payload mass is gonna be so much smaller that mun and min missions will cost so much less. If you can pull off single mun landing, you can get enough for the rest.

[@bencezrinyi6761]

i'd do 9, 7, 9+ in that order

[@hypervious8878]

Get flight control: the bigger ball's extra passenger room gives the option to farm for funds through tourism and rescues, so you can upgrade the SPH and VAB, nullifying the weight and part count problem.

[@quoniam426]

The polar orbit around the Mun should be parallel to Kerbin for better efficiency and not perpendicular. Once you've waited for the proper day, burn either on the South or the North towards the rear of the Mun's orbital trajectory to effectively leav the Mun's sphere of influence and get a Kerbin Peripaps. Same if you land and that your landing spot is pointing straight towards the "rear" of the body's orbital trajectory, don't even bother go into orbit and point straight up until you get out of the body's SOI. And yes, orbital biome observation can bring a lot of science, that's why, contrary to what people do most of the time, your first Mun or Minmus orbit with a crewed craft should be polar and not equatorial, at least the first orbit when you actually can go EVA that is...

[@jackturner8472]

terrier engine. Duna and eve and gilly flybys become ez, let alone Minmus! USE YOUR CRAFT TO FLYBY MINMUS!!!!

[@maciejspisak3995]

Go for 9. Autostrut is the goat

[@onlirier2993]

Struts.

[@spacechild7452]

Get general construcktion or advanced rocketry and go back to the moon then come back with the science to get aviation

[@exio_exio1234]

Go for terrier to make a mun lander After I'd get struts

[@triganden]

9 -> Mun surface science -> 9+