BACK To The MOON!!! In KSP 10% Science mode. It's time to choose the next course of action. \ 18

YOU CHOOSE!!! We have the power now to unlock another science block.
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GAME : Kerbal Space Program VERSION 1.12.5
MUSIC : Kerbal Space Program 2
X3 Reunion Soundtrack
Surviving Mars
Sins of a Solar Empire
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[@elijahwills7331]

The long awaited lunar return! Plane parts are fun, but won't speed up the science grind rn. Getting the terrier will allow you to build smaller upper stages, and that same node includes larger tanks... Struts become a bit less necessary id say? Advanced rocketry or construction for sure. 10% science mode is a nice reminder of good 'ol solar nations!

[@Orient3m]

10% science mode makes the most chaotic but creative rocket designs to ever exist istg, keep it up man these videos are amazing. One question I have is why you use capsules instead of nose cones? I assume you haven’t unlocked the node yet but who knows

[@somethingforsenro]

that would be because he has no capsules capable of holding multiple kerbals, so he needs to strap on multiple capsules instead

[@guesswho2778]

@@somethingforsenro i think they were talking about the capsules acting as nosecones on the boosters.

[@alalalus7692]

@@guesswho2778 This is most likely because they have reaction wheels inside for better stability

[@vaos3712]

reaction wheels mostly but aerodynamic nose cones are new tech and i didn’t have time to rebuild the design for the video. 😢

[@Orient3m]

@@vaos3712I do not blame you regarding not wanting to rebuild the whole rocket lol 😂 btw I think 7 would be better as you can have an efficient enough engine to actually land on the mün by just replacing the reliant with the terrier on the second stage!

[@banditodorito1191]

its a tossup between struts or aviation. the struts would counter the runway death wobble but the wings and passenger cabin would make tourism and SSTO building easier...

[@bskramer1011]

7 - terrier and larger fuel tank to start farming other bodies

[@aidengregory6825]

@@bskramer1011 yeah then he could farm both of Kerbans moons

[@MikeAben]

I think you made the right call not going for the landing, especially from that polar orbit. You had a lot of fuel for the return, but in case it comes up again when you don't, the best time to have ejected would have been when the plane of the polar orbit was tangential to the Mun's orbit. That way you can eject yourself going retrograde to the Mun's direction about Kerbin. I hope that makes sense.

[@logandarklighter]

Totally agreed. Could it have worked? Possibly. But the probability of a miscalculation or mistake that leaves the Kerbinauts stranded on the Mun was too great.

[@vaos3712]

Great to see you! Yaaaaaa..... I goofed up lol😆😅

[@logandarklighter]

First off - *GET -* *THE -* *STRUTS!!!!!* As big a fan as I am of aviation parts and being able to travel over the surface of Kerbin (and later Laythe). You DO need the SCIENCE. And that lander of yours is a GOOD one - all it needs is a better set of boosters to get it to the Mun or Minmus. Ideally you should only START using the fuel in the lander itself like Apollo used the fuel on-board the Service Module - to SLOW DOWN and get into orbit of the Mun - and then - to land, take off and get back home with. The only way to DO that is with a better BOOSTER. You need the equivalent of either a Saturn 5 or N1 first stage for getting about 3/4 of the way out of the atmosphere. A good second stage that gets you into orbit of Kerbin. And a third stage left attached to the lander like the S-4B. That third stage (and maybe a tiny 4th one for Minmus) is what you need to get the lander on its way to the Mun. And you cannot do THAT without the STRUTS and the Launch clamps! (You might even be able to split up the lander into a Command stage and Lunar lander if you use the tiny little engines and a very small lander that uses those little engines - but the larger lander would still likely work.) I'm all for the plane parts at the appropriate stages of this career. But right now - this is NOT the time. You're running out of science on Kerbin itself. NOW's the time to truly land on the Mun or Minmus and get that science to bootstrap your program! If anything - landing on Minmus might be easier and safer to do! You might consider going THERE first regardless of anything else you do!

[@logandarklighter]

I might also add a TLDR - Struts will get you the SCIENCE. Aviation will get you the MONEY. Get the science first so you can get the money on the following round!

[@lianaeschlimann9827]

I'd say go for 9 so you can get science from the mun and minmus.

[@somethingforsenro]

#9 all the way! Autostrut FTW! You can probably use the abort button to shut down engines, so the abort capsule won't get trapped on top of the rocket like it did in the first mission this episode. Might even make the lower stages partially recoverable, if you're early enough in flight…

[@vaos3712]

lol😂 you can’t shut down solid fuel boosters 😢

[@ITSARLOOL]

I’d say 9, then 7, and then only research planes when you unlock surface sampling. That way you can farm as much science on the moon and once you unlock surface sampling, you can research plane parts to do a much cheaper tour of kerbin to get all the samples

[@TomGreen-zk8ik]

agreed all the way sir

[@Elim_Garak]

Looks pretty unanimous already: We all wanna watch you strut, Vaos ❤😂

[@Elim_Garak]

🤔💬There a way we can pickup a Willzyx (or Tom Cruise) contract? 🌒🐋

[@ltambrosekurt2]

NO WAY BRO, He has the knowledge to make solid-ish designs by using the game engine, he needs more Delta V, the Terrier and bigger fuel tanks would make it WAAAY easier to land on the mun, and once he lands, he will probably get all the science he needs to unlock the struts AND aviation.

[@Ski55]

Terrier gets you easy and cheap probe landings on the mun and minmus to quickly unlock the struts and aviation nodes.

[@JohnAslin]

In the immortal words of John Lennon: "Number nine, number nine, number nine..."

[@daskampffredchen]

9 to counter the wobble. That way you can use more SRBs on your first stage and also get closer to docking ports

[@MadPirateShin]

Good point, docking would enable multi-launch missions.

[@Zonalar]

9+ is my choice. more planes, more cool. I do not feel strongly about these choices, but you gave me a vote and I feel compelled to use it :D

[@brianriley5108]

'To the moon Alice!' (Whichever one helps to get you back to the moon)

[@ncasey9853]

9 seems to be the most sensible, but they are all great choices. It's not just the struts, it's the crew cabin too, which could enable some more tourism options. Alternatively, what you have now works, just about. With the terrier engine, you could get a smaller lander, which means a smaller launcher, which means less wobble too. That's if you're going right for the moon anyway. The plane parts are less science right up, but they unlock more ways to get money and level up some buildings. Are you allowing yourself to use the admin building strategies? You could get a few bail out grants to upgrade buidings, but not sure how they interact with the 10% mode.

[@moople9066]

I would take 9 and keep my eyes peeled for a contract to test the Terrier in the mean time. In my 10% save I may or may not have been inspired by this series to start I've been using "borrowed" terriers from a contract for minmus and mun landings, just gotta actually unlock them by the time the contract runs out! You're not part-limited anymore so stability is better than engine efficiency rn

[@TomGreen-zk8ik]

by far and away get 9 general construction, it'll save you such a headache for rocket launches + the inline cabin for tourists considering the ball capsule makes crafts unstable as all hell

[@lordzoral9997]

#9 General construction it is for me! Allows you to get stronger ships and to minimize for money generation with tourists. Allowing you to get these sweet sweet mun samples.

[@The808andrew808]

Wow this isn’t Starfield OR zomboid?!?!!!!! Love you vaos

[@JollyRogerAerospace]

Yeah I'm with you, get the struts. You'll get more science in space than the little bits left on Kerbin. I personally think Minmus is easier than the Mun. That's a whole other bucket of science waiting for you and with struts you can easily get there.

[@justovision]

General construction. Crew cabin also makes tourist missions easier and cheaper go farm money.

[@chazbennett7771]

The number on the side is the amount of parts unlockable in that science tier 😂 I say the planes could be useful

[@foxworthgames]

There were numbers on a few already unlocked. Meaning he added mods that put things in those nodes, he needs to click to unlock

[@oldbroom8455]

9. You can basicly allredy land on the moon you just need som struts to keep the kraken at bay

[@glenwestwood3683]

number 9 general construction then go for plane parts when you get more science for space planes to save money

[@guesswho2778]

9 also the number on those nodes is how many parts the node contains.

[@СеменСеменыч-у6е]

It's terrier engine. Also couple of notes: to get back to the main body from a moon the eficient way you better burn toward moon's retrograde, not radial what you did there. Also science! mod should have a green beaker button somewhere that alarms you of new science experiments and allows you to run and collect them from its GUI. Not sure why you don't have it on the toolbar.

[@vaos3712]

Ya I goofed. 😅

[@dpenton]

Really dig this series man. You've got me on the edge of my seat with each episode. You're doing the near impossible, lol. I can't do the 10% science, 50% is challenging enough for me (for now!). I would say get parts that allow you to get to the mun or minmus. That's where more science will be available to you since you have already squeezed kerbin for all the science you possibly can. OR make your way through the tree to obtain more science instruments. Science is key to advancing! GOOD LUCK GUMSHOE!

[@jackturner8472]

terrier engine. Duna and eve and gilly flybys become ez, let alone Minmus! USE YOUR CRAFT TO FLYBY MINMUS!!!!

[@bmobert]

Get less wobbly rockets. Going back to Mun and getting to Minmus will pay science dividends. Also, x-science had another window. Perhaps you already know this. But there's a waypoint symbol on your toolbar that is also from x-science. This window helps the player with a button that makes science collection a little more automatic, so there's less grief. It's still a grind, but it's less. Check it out. You might find it worth.

[@yourbrojohno]

When you are coasting to 70k, keep the whole rocket together till you need to start burning. Any extra mass is just gonna serve to maintain your momentum, fighting the last bit of drag. Especially if the staging results in s draggier craft. This will leave you that little extra DV that you would need for this craft to land and have 50m/s margin coming back.

[@lightspeedvictory]

Jedediah must be raging so hard, he’s been in orbit around the Mun, what was this mission, mission 4? 4 times with plans to land and each and every time the landing is aborted LOL I vote 9. Safety first and it will allow you access to the Mun’s science, providing much more science to unlock stuff, rather than just trying to squeeze the dregs out of Kerbin which might not have enough to unlock another node

[@skinger9567]

It's a tough call between number 9 and number 7 (after all what's even the point of inventing rocketry if you're not going to dump all your money into fireworks?). I think the numbering system's how many parts are unlocked in that tech node, so we may soon get to choose between number 9+, number 9+ and number 9+ under the current system.

[@americanhat3766]

You should get general construction *_NOT_* because the auto-struts no no noooo, its the fact that you can easily add more Kerbals and thus more tourists, and can easily retrofit that Mun-orbiter to carry crew and get a boat-load of money from Munar (and minmus) flybys that can upgrade the hell out of the space center. Also could you add parachutes to that 1st stage? when you abort it'll slow down slightly more and allow your Kerbals to GTFO quicker, but also if it works properly and you switch to it, you can see it land and get a lot of money back from that 1st stage.

[@carjunky233]

all im thinking about is just how much MONEY youd be saving if you got struts and the launch clamps! think about how many times youve aborted now, how much money youre wasting. you most likely would have more delta v if you didnt spend it all constantly adjusting because the rocket was wobbling around a bit. thats deffinitely what i would go for

[@coffeeAddict74]

If you want the big science payoff you need to go for the Mun landing. I believe there is science and money in the “Plant a flag mission” in addition. To the science you get from the lander. And if you aim it right you can walk your kerbal into a nearby biome and at least get the EVA science. Too bad you don’t have the surface sample unlocked. Bummer!

[@bearnaff9387]

I think general construction is the way to go. I want to see you reach the SSTO rocket plane era as much as anyone, but getting out to the Mun and Minimus for the science bounty will propel your tech further than being able to build a full spaceliner for tourists. OTOH, if spesos are the limiting factor and you're good with throwing bigger dumb boosters at the near-space bodies, getting those spaceliner designs to replace the Orion might be the way to go. So, if science, then GC. If money, then aviation.

[@JonVB-t8l]

... Oh you aren't gonna like this... But I think you need to save for electronics... The octo and most importantly solar panels are gonna allow you to do so much more without risking Jeb. The payload mass is gonna be so much smaller that mun and min missions will cost so much less. If you can pull off single mun landing, you can get enough for the rest.

[@dooku186]

I'd recommend doing math. If you can gain science from using a plane to access other areas WITH a scientist kerbal also on board so you only have to carry 1 experiment. Like a materials study to the bio es on the opposite side of the planet. If you can gain that 45 back or at least most of it I would recommend plane parts first.

[@Syntex366]

The terrier is best. Increase your range and fuel so you’ll be able to start mun/Minmus landings to farm surface science, and you can build a cheap rocket that doesn’t need as much weight when you have a terrier’s efficiency cutting the fuel requirements down by literal tons. Struts are nice, but not important with how much the terrier allows you to scale down.

[@nyaanon]

Terrier is a safe bet I think, It will make your lunar crafts much smaller and thus more stable. Bigger fuel tanks are also nice. That way you could land on the moon multiple times and get that sweet science. I have a feeling aviation will surely improve the coolness factor of you crafts, but will it help with science?

[@brycecollins7550]

I also say 9. Not even taking the struts into consideration, the new crew cabin will help with tourism grinding. With the struts you can make bigger tourist sticks XD

[@stuchris]

really thinking that advanced rocketry is the way to go: the terrier is one of the most efficient engines in the game in space, especially for astral bodies with no atmo, like the mun. its your ticket to landing on it safely and efficiently. plus it means getting to most planets (albeit over a longer time frame) efficiently could be possible. also ofc gives larger fuel tanks which tends to help with wobbly rockets. also, the thud engine is a beauty when painted so you get some nice visual options too.

[@kaulquappentv6888]

Struts all the way to the moon Also gives you a better part for space tourism. And potentially much bigger and complex crafts. ❤

[@JansenX12]

General COnstruction would make the most sense. With the Struts you can design more stable Crafts that dont require some strange wörk arounds.

[@chrisbacon3071]

Just got off work a few hours ago and now I’m watching a VAOS video, life couldn’t be better.

[@methusmit5015]

i would say time for struts all day, i mean even at low tech everything is possible with a good computer and strut. can't soft lock the save anymore with that >

[@MarcWeavers]

i use mod called Full Auto Strut to allow me to apply Rigid Attachment to all parts at once (manually disable for all wheels and movable parts afterwards)

[@lordzoral9997]

Special mention for the X3 musics, making every video a mix of awesomness and nostalgic.

[@pqddachu]

i have tried 10% science before, personally i think terriers would be the best choice. terrier engines are more efficient meaning you could use smaller crafts to get the same distance. it would negate the need for struts

[@Jomads]

general construction or advanced rocketry, lunar surface science is gonna be the next big thing and wings and jets dont help with them

[@lordzoral9997]

"I'm very short on time" Yet I checked and the video IS 19minutes long...

[@thebrick.1385]

9 and 7 should be priority

[@thamiordragonheart8682]

get general construction (9) so you can get enough money from tourist missions to upgrade the astronaut complex for surface samples before you go to land on the mun.

[@Concavenator_corcovatus]

I think that the terror would be best option, oh can build a much cheaper and smaller moon rocket, do a couple landings, and then have more then enough science to buy the struts and aviation

[@ez_theta_z9317]

get construction, get the crew cabins and use those and struts to grind out the cash for tracking station upgrade to get to minmus, that and mun have more than enough science to get you to terriers and from there you can probably even get to duna

[@michaelminecraftplays7773]

You should do 9 The struts are powerful And the passenger bay will alow you to do more Tourism.

[@Kodisstuff]

Aviation would be better tbh. Cus there might be more science on kerbin rather than the mun. Just my opinion.

[@techsbyglebbagrov7470]

Maybe the aviation would give us the contracts to go onto a X spot and Y altitude and make us a pinch more money and funds to get us the lunar crafts we need

[@blazerayanami5979]

The upgrade that has the Terrier engine is definitely the best on this situation. Although the aviation one would definitely be fun.

[@thelegogamer5000]

Any missions where there little green guys get to come home from is a successful one as for what you should get next I think it's 9

[@robertstuckey6407]

I think 7 is slightly better than struts. Terrier will make all kinds of orbital operations possible.

[@sztosikdang]

Go for 9 you can make better passenger craft with it wich means more money from tuorists and yk you can make better safer rockets so yeah 9 no dbout

[@MechanizedInfantryProductions]

I recommend 9 and think that struts will save alot of missions from the kraken in the future!!!

[@spacechild7452]

Get general construcktion or advanced rocketry and go back to the moon then come back with the science to get aviation

[@Grushaq]

9, You can have muscle mass that allows you to lift a car, but it means nothing without bones

[@nighmare.2kytrewq337]

as there is not much science left of kerbin, unlock 7 for terrier engine and use mun+minmus to unlock rest of nodes

[@haydenlane-davies4649]

7 is my vote, the bigger tanks and terrier will make mun hopping way easier

[@KerbalAddict]

I think terrier because you can go to the mun, minmus, and gilly way easier

[@LavenderCat175]

I'm the opinion you should either go with struts or the plane parts.

[@daskampffredchen]

Cant you just put Mun in the search bar to see all the science you can get there

[@Cesar2057]

9, General Construction IS the way

[@WitcherShade]

Struts! It is pain to watch wobbly rockets

[@whoshotdk]

Luna class? More like Loony class! VAOS: Where we’re going, we don’t *need* patched conics.

[@vaos3712]

patched conics is overrated.

[@experimentalmenace]

Struts

[@MrFranklitalien]

pick #9, it'll unlock AUTOSTRUT

[@exio_exio1234]

Go for terrier to make a mun lander After I'd get struts

[@charlesmurray9053]

Back to the moon with struts! and maybe minmus

[@foxworthgames]

That lander gives off major Jack in the box vibes

[@FatOrangeCat-kyti]

More Mun stuff! Also comment for the algorithm (9)

[@pteronoid]

9. struts will help a lot if the part count is high

[@Jump_Immortal]

It is now time to get the long awaited Terrier!

[@mathiasalison8803]

I would vote 9+ but Vaos knows best 😎

[@yanox7463]

The number 9 is really good

[@armin3749]

Either get the struts or get the terrier

[@stekra3159]

9.5 Get aviaton and bild bargen basement SSTOs

[@KrakinFun]

Love the Surviving Mars Music! ❤

[@triganden]

9 -> Mun surface science -> 9+

[@SpaceMan-bj5jm]

9, lets finally land on the Moon

[@Diov514]

Terrier! The ultimate engine.

[@SSanatobaJR]

9, you really need the struts

[@MonteroJCs]

General Construction!

[@gupikot5272]

GENEVA CONSTRUCTION🔥🔥🔥

[@maciejspisak3995]

Go for 9. Autostrut is the goat

[@matejlehocky4812]

Have you ever thought about playing RimWorld cheff? I think you would definitely fit in

[@vaos3712]

made videos of it years ago. 😎

[@matejlehocky4812]

@@vaos3712 maybe it is time to refresh those memories because of those new Dlcs 😏

[@bencezrinyi6761]

i'd do 9, 7, 9+ in that order

[@kennybevan11]

I agree, 9 definitely

[@stekra3159]

Get construction 9

[@flyingsalmons934]

screw it aviation

[@ThatTinyDude]

Get the engine and fuel tanks