Backbreaking fuseboard change, Electrician

here is the link to Garys daughter, Vienna's go fund link gofund.me/015089fb
please give what you can
back breaking18th edition Fuse board/ consumer unit change, abit of a walk through extending cables
check out www.expertelectrical.co.uk for fuse box boards
USE BUNDY10 for discount.
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[@GSHElectrical]

Massive thanks Nick and Adam 🦾💕 I cannot thank you enough and all your wonderful subscribers 👍.

[@NBundyElectrical]

❤️❤️

[@electricalservicesmaroc]

me too

[@davidfleck6551]

Gary you deserve it and may I say your daughter is a beautiful beamingly bright young girl ❤️👍

[@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you]

Gary your channels are hours of joy (even for a non spark who just likes nerdy vids) hope your daughter loves the prosthetic and it helps!

[@TheChipmunk2008]

Donated as a thank you to Gary for the videos as well as for Vienna.

[@vievlogs589]

Massive thanks for supporting my quest to get a hero arm Nick 🦾⭐️💗 love Vienna ps see you soon

[@jordanpage8946]

Hey Vie! Nick mentioned you enjoy gymnastics, if ever you are in East Anglia I’ll be happy to open up the gym club I work at (Waveney Gymnastics) the videos your dad have really helped me out along my journey of becoming a sparky so I’d be happy to return the favour!

[@Sam_Holt]

Customer: All other sparkies quoted me half the hours Nick: Gotta film too mate

[@Hamstermist]

It's amazing the amount of people that will help others out. If only everyone was more like that.

[@jontownsend8090]

Liking the metal enclosures, above and beyond as always. Will be donating. I have learnt so much from Gary over the years.

[@claudiolombardi6633]

Great video again Nick. I’m not an electrician but have been watching yours and Adams videos for ages now, I love the detail you go to and the banter you both have. I’m also a fan of Gary and the efixx team, so when I heard the news about his daughter I wanted to do what I could to help so I’ve donated. Keep up the great work guys and all the best to Gary, and Vienna.

[@Rodderslithgow]

Wow the support is really amazing. I love nick and Adam. And all the other people following, it's a great community

[@landroverlandyman]

Well done guys for supporting Vienna and taking time and effort from what can only be said as hard work on a daily basis. I have just donated :)

[@studsy26]

Just donated to the great cause thanks Bundy10 for bringing it to our attention, Gary’s a top bloke and hope this really helps his daughter.

[@Baron9969]

You guys are great for helping Gary's daughter. Adam sent me over here. You and Adam good Job!

[@SeaCatch3]

Donated, I learn so much from GSH and your channel ( and Adams) it's the least I could do.

[@barryarmstrong5232]

Donated, thanks for raising awareness Nick, such a good cause for a beautiful young lady. Hope she recovers well.

[@99siross]

Just donated, all the best to Gary and his Daughter.

[@PlanetCypher_]

Definitely going to donate, Garry seems a top bloke 👍

[@NBundyElectrical]

Thanks mate 🙌

[@darkdepth1991]

Hi Nick & Adam thank you for sharing this amazing video . A quick tip from me, try to use (Phoenix Contact, PT 2.5 WH Feed Through Terminal Block, Push In Termination) in the junctionbox. Btw, so nice of you that you support Gaz in his personal situation. This man has done so much for the electrical community in England & Europe.

[@petertallowin6406]

Sorry dude, I totally watched Adam's first..... That dude is a keeper. :) Amazing gesture for the fund page Nick. Donation to follow shortly. Hat's off to you, it's a flappy beanie hat, no Batkid logo and therefore way better.

[@simoncarney9944]

As a father of 2 sporty daughters and grandfather of 2 granddaughters I really felt for her. Fiver chucked in! 👍🏼

[@Ronny86_]

Sent a few quid over, watched gaz’s videos for a while now and he’s helped me loads. So hopefully the small donation is a small way of saying thank you

[@DoctorElectricYouTube]

only just started watching the video but I wanted to say that I agree with your comment about Gaz, I've got to know him over the past few years and he is 100% the best guy you will ever meet, helped me loads through my apprenticeship and beyond, thank you Gaz!!! Good video Nick, as always!

[@sparksPRW]

Great job guys, looked neat Nick. Loved the flexi. Having same problem with arms and neck at the moment - two weeks in a cellar working upwards - ouch!

[@metrotechguru5863]

I agree with you 100% on the metal junction boxes above the consumer unit. It's much safer than the multiple plastic boxes and would make any future troubleshooting much easier. As usual, you lads did an excellent job on this one. Looks beautiful and it's far more functional.

[@henrybrown3400]

Never really comment, just watch your videos! But i’ll donate now, top bloke!

[@NBundyElectrical]

Thanks mate 🙌🙌

[@ghspaelectricalservices9296]

Top vlog as always, just donated all the best to Gaz & his daughter

[@johndrury7477]

GSH helped alot at college for me (far more than the college itself) so I've chipped in a fiver :)

[@NBundyElectrical]

Thanks bud

[@Cablesmith]

You’ve done a cracking job of that, was a right mess before 👌🏼

[@makitalo007]

Good video. Just donated thanks to you :) Sparky s around the world helping out. Keep up the good work and stay safe in this trying times.

[@markdevlin8471]

I'm not an electrician ( can just about change a light fitting, takes about 4 hrs but hey ho..).. but just like to say top work you do, really neat and great to see professionals at work.. How you can work out where all those wires go is beyond me.. my brain aches just looking at em.. Top job..👍👍

[@Azlehria]

Training and experience help a lot, but notes and labels are where it's really at. You can't get away with "rule of thumb" anymore when you start hitting 200+ cables (not wires) into an enclosure with specific location requirements for termination and internal trunking.

[@NoDissasemble]

Good effort with the box, great to see the thought that goes into doing more than the minimum in the regs. Have you used intumescent pads in any installs? Particularly good with things like trunking and rear entry boxes to impede flame propagation. Bit neater and less of a maintenance pain than intumescent mastic. MoD buildings use evirograff pads absolutely everywhere for trunking (including metal) especially between fire boundaries.

[@TheHomeent]

No... This time I watched Adams first.. Nothing personal It had great content and nicely done, good to see the other side. Well done Adam Obviously you have taught him well

[@scottcresswell4718]

£5.00 donated. Another great video and a fantastic cause 👍🏻

[@paultp12cora24]

Love The Way You Work Rkid Spot On From A Old Old Spark's

[@mrsuperpants6019]

Just donated. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

[@NBundyElectrical]

Thanks dude 🙌🙌

[@electrician247]

Well said Nick regards Gary and family. You are a wonderful human being buddy. Top work as ever enjoyed it. Maybe ask Adam to give you a shout out. He is pretty bigtime I hear.

[@boolfrog]

Just donated. Great Cause. Keep the videos coming. Excellent Channel

[@NBundyElectrical]

Legend thank you

[@Lordbigv]

Hi mate great channel. I'm a British sparky now practicing gods trade in Australia, once the borders open up you should pop over it's very different and interesting.

[@calmeilles]

Highest load closest to the incomer means that less current has to travel the length of the bus bar, less opportunity for heating and less chance of a problem. In reality the bus bar _should_ be more than capable of carrying full current for it's entire length and so no one _needs_ to do this. But things happen, so it's good practice to minimise a risk if it's possible to do so. Strangely North American codes often require a minimum distance between the incoming breaker and any high load - for airflow / cooling, so they end up doing the opposite: typically incomer at the top of their boards and then load breaker modules upwards from the highest at the bottom. But their bus bars are fixed, usually steel and stoopidly mahoosive! So unwanted heating in the breakers is actually much more likely than in the bus bars.

[@L81ker]

exactly. the highest current goes the shortest distance (less loss and less heat generated). As you said if the big load is at the far end, the whole busbar is carrying that current end to end, before adding all the other circuits "along the way".

[@cgoad]

Hi Nick. That was another cool gesture, helping the daughter. Well done! Oo-o-o there were some digs at poor Adam. 😆 Its really nice to see how well you work together. Bad enough that you "forgot" your glasses, but you left out whacking your head! You should have "borrowed" the clip from Adam. Too funny! I don't know how many times over the years I've whacked my noggin. It must be made from granite. Just like yours!

[@andyperkins4676]

Donated Nick. Keep it all up and best wishes to Vienna!

[@gerwyndavies8974]

just donated gary if you see this i never new about your daughter sorry for the ba news im sure shes a fighter so thanks nick

[@alsanova]

Very neat, especially those two metal junction boxes, American would make absolutely right mess with those wire nuts which something I would never ever use it!

[@yorkshireoz3583]

Top bloke Nick - well done mate.

[@haydenuk02]

Excellent work and thanks for the awesome content stay safe and take care

[@mattwilkins10]

Good point about the plastic enclosures but it’s inconsistent with a plastic 2 pole isolator and meter...

[@sparkydave2783]

Highest loads next to main switch is pretty much an urban legend IMHO. Yes, it means the highest current has the least distance to travel down the busbar, but two things: the CSA of the bar is such that it is rated to at least the main switch current anyway, and if you add a shower in 5 years, nobody sensible moves all the existing circuits down the bar (especially not in a 48 way three phase DB 😂😂).

[@mohsinzlaoui6812]

Lovely work

[@ciaranmc2997]

Good job as usual Nick. I can appreciate how awkward that was

[@Rodderslithgow]

I love nick bundy and adam

[@dobplastering8410]

Great vid as always. Donation made all the best with her new (hero).

[@NBundyElectrical]

Awesome thank you

[@davidfaraday3085]

Likewise. I see the total is now over £6k.

[@KevAsh]

Nice work, and good to see some metal boxes going in. Always struck me as odd that regs require metal enclosures on DBs but happy to put more connections in a plastic box when extending. Kudos for spreading the word about Gary's daughter too. Nice to see people using their fame for good. :)

[@NBundyElectrical]

Thanks bud 👍

[@Marco-mg9tv]

My way of thinking is screw terminals in a consumer unit can be either poorly torqued or come loose over time. Wago/crimps/mf connections can’t/won’t so no need for non combustible materials for the enclosure?

[@roydowling2542]

Strikes me odd that people worry about plastics JB,s and have no issues with plastic sockets, light switchs, spurs and plastic player board boxes

[@Marco-mg9tv]

@@roydowling2542 it’s all about the probability of loose connections causing an issue. How many fires start in a socket or light switch? How many in a CU ? Do the math

[@acelectricalsecurity]

@@Marco-mg9tv never replaced a shower switch then I am guessing

[@dhillon555]

God bless you nick and Adam

[@dc-sd3gd]

In regards to plastuc jbs etc for fire. We happily fit plastic sockets on a plastic back box

[@acelectricalsecurity]

There's never been anything wrong with plastic, just the limp wristed Muppets.

[@raychambers3646]

@Dark Dreamz most people see it as 13a s/o so it must take 13amps ( wrong) .

[@TheChipmunk2008]

Most sockets and boxes are fairly non flammable phenolic. Yeah there are pvc sockets and boxes, but i'd say they're in the huge minority. Nowt wrong with a little bit of extra safety. And actually metal adaptable boxes can be a dang site cheaper than many of the proprietary plastic offerings

[@acelectricalsecurity]

@@TheChipmunk2008 true, I bought some 4x4 plastic trunking once it was twice the cost of metal and I also got a 90 degree bend, that was the same cost as the trunking, couldn't believe it.

[@thomasbyles3075]

Cheers for letting us know about the donation. Nice vidski

[@Sparks1Plumbers0]

Made me laugh. The Posh Part of Stafford 😅... or just where the very short people live! The height (or lack of) that garage with it's even lower roller door... classic. Great video anyway 👍

[@peterg.8245]

Your bus bar has a small (.0001ohm/cm) resistance and that creates heat which costs money. So your largest breakers are closest to reduce resistance. Though it may be small but over the life of the board could be significant compared to the cost of putting them in order with wire length not being a factor.

[@trepasers]

Very Neat ...Fair play !

[@matt9852]

Lovely and neat

[@dw_plumbheat]

Just put my little bit in, let's see this target smashed as soon as possible!all the best to Vienna too 👍

[@TheChipmunk2008]

smashed to heck and still going

[@dw_plumbheat]

@@TheChipmunk2008 Id love to know what the total is that Vienna needs for the new arm... Think theres enough guys on here to really push it along! I'm a plumber donating via a sparkys video so it must be worthwhile!

[@shifty277]

Nice gesture there.

[@RichardArblaster]

19:55 Nice job 😎

[@paulprescott7913]

Liked this vid Nick. Have donated just.

[@stuartthespark]

The largest load nearest the main switch question. I was taught that it would reduce the amount of load on the copper busbar, therefore negate a cumulative build up of heat and hot spots on the busbar. The heat would expand the copper busbar, and may over time damage the termination cage of the RCBO or MCB, resulting in a high resistance termination.

[@sdgelectronics]

The busbar is rated for the full 100A across the busbar. If you measure the impedance of the busbar, you'll find it's in the sub milliohms range. Even at 100A with a 0.1mR impedance, the busbar is dissipating 1W across the full length - likely not enough to raise the temperature by 1 degree. It's a non-issue. You're better off spreading the load across and grouping according to location of the circuit so you don't create hotspots between the MCBs - the contact impedance it much higher than that of the busbar.

[@stuartthespark]

@@sdgelectronics interesting feedback. The manufacturers recommended that the largest load be next to the main switch and this is also taught in college's and is a typical exam/test question. Since Nick has all the equipment in his workshop, how about doing an experiment.

[@matthewfewings6023]

That logic would mean everything is on at the same time. Even if that was the case regardless how the RCBO’s are spread you would have the same load at the beginning.

[@stuartthespark]

@@matthewfewings6023 I believe the idea is that large loads are next to the main switch so only a small percentage of the busbar is at the maximum demand. If you placed the large loads at the opposite end of the main switch, then more of the busbar would be running at a higher demand. Yes, the busbar can take 100amp and you can place heavy loads on any way. I just think it's good practice.

[@matthewfewings6023]

@@stuartthespark yea I get the thinking, reason and the theory, which i actually use and was taught. Just think in the domestic world it’s been over-egged as such. If the bush bar can’t take the demand the bush bar should be bigger. I genuinely think it wouldn’t matter how you did it. The first part of the bar will always carry the full demand. Maybe years ago the logic was more sound. It’s a lot easier to manoeuvre small cables as the board starts getting full. Easiest way to check would be to run a 100 amps down the first and second pins of the bush bar and then run it the whole way, see if it makes a difference. 😀

[@xturn3r5x34]

These vids are great 👍

[@alhughes9698]

I like to print off the circuit chart on the install circuit, laminate it and fix it up local to the DB. It does involve another visit to the job though :P

[@tobysherring1369]

In this case "Adam and me" is correct. Just imagine you're missing out Adam (hard though that may be). Would you say "videos from I" or "videos from me"? Putting him first makes no difference: "Adam and I" is only right if you'd say "I" on your own.

[@andyhill242]

On the subject of standing in awkward places, and bits hurting. Over 10 years of working for a small computer company I often ended up working under desks behind racks working on cables. Twisting my neck into awkward places, not knowing I was gradually damaging my right internal carotid artery. Eventually resulting in a pretty serious stroke in November 2010, leaving me with permanent disabilities. So beware of things that hurt bits of your body, especially your neck!

[@nigemears229]

Donated very worthy cause

[@mrsecurity]

Thumbs up 👍

[@tonynewton7902]

Get your eyes checked mate you need them more than you know. Would love to donate but I’ve just found out (Thursday) I’m getting the first of my hips done next month then the other ASAP. Love Gaz and efixx and would like to wish Gaz’s daughter all the best. ❤️❤️❤️ P.S GET YOUR EYES CHECKED.

[@AndyK.1]

So much banter 😄

[@marksmith-ew7ir]

like the head banging

[@steshaw1517]

Donated👍🏽 all the best 😁

[@NBundyElectrical]

Thanks mate 👍

[@johnfenlon458]

Great job... But it's not a safe close gas meter. Should be outside. Thumb up! Cheer!

[@thisismissem]

With the meter being mounted on a piece of plywood, are you allowed to move that without actually touching the cables on the board? As to rearrange thing's & give more room?

[@robertsingleton2364]

Hey Nick great 👍 what's your method of lengthening short cables when changing a consumer unit and no way of moving it ?

[@brianwood5220]

Lovely job lads, shame about the flexicon. Definitely looks better used on more industrial/comercial work. #StaySafe

[@HickoryHustle]

Hi Nick, Just wondering what mulit-tool blades you use to cut between the knockouts at the top of boards?

[@stuarth540]

Where was the link to donate, you said it wasn't the nearest job, by the looks of it you guys done a brilliant job, sorry Good Job. 😀

[@mfx1]

I suspect a lot of "electricians" think that highest load breaker nearest the main switch=lower voltdrop on the common busbar which while technically correct it's insignificant, you could do a low ohms test along the main busbar to each breaker stub and do the maths, you'll be looking at uV/mV max and it would only ever matter if the ring was loaded to anywhere near it's limit which they virtually never are.

[@mfx1]

@@adamsharp201 Why does that matter ? I actually work in special effects/theatrical props with a heavy bias towards electronics.

[@Marco-mg9tv]

My way of thinking is screw terminals in a consumer unit can be either poorly torqued or come loose over time. Wago/crimps/mf connections can’t/won’t so no need for non combustible materials for the enclosure?

[@martin54123]

Should be wearing glasses you say, that explains a lot! Just kidding another great video. Glad to have donated to a worthwhile cause 👍too.

[@alanrolfe218]

What multi tool blades do you use on the consumer unit to make the knock outs bigger 🤔

[@jonathanstephens7804]

£5 donated. All the best

[@ColinRichardson]

Highest amps closest to the source = Because Heat If they have to go from [A-B] and [C-D-E-F] transmitting less amps wont get as warm and can use the nice thermal conductivity of the copper help bleed heat away and have cooler parts to eradicate the heat. If it has to from [A-F] and go through [B-C-D-E] along the way, it's all being heated up so no nice heat bleeding.

[@fazerstorm-oap]

It would be interesting to see Nick test this in his unit. I reckon you would have to be putting hundreds of amps through busbar that size to get any heat effect?

[@ColinRichardson]

@@fazerstorm-oap If there was any significant heat, then this whole technique would not even be a thing.. Everything is WAY WAY within safety limits.. You are correct, it would take significant amounts of energy.. Even as a giant burst (not likely with fuses) or at limits for a very sustained timeframe with a very high ambient temperature. Lets just say everything else would prob fail before the busbar ever did.. And this is why it's not against regs to do so, just a general guide. Same way driving down a road within mm of the white line.. It's not against road law.. but why not just drive safer by rule, and do things out of the norm when needed.

[@doncodman913]

Hi Nick . I clicked that go fund link and the minimum is £5 donation +12% optional.

[@dg2908]

Fitted my first FuseBox this week and had a quick look at the instructions, pretty sure it said to put breakers in order highest to lowest from main switch

[@david5499]

Love the back breakers. I love me job but it’s gonna be me in a wheelchair 🤣

[@TheChipmunk2008]

That box looks neat enough to me. Okay fine it's not ruled to mm precision and perfect parallel lines etc. But it's safe, easy to trace wiring, not over cramped, what's not to like. The real world isn't a college course setup job :)

[@Mancflyer]

Hi NIck Great vids but please be aware that the panels on the garage ceiling like these could be asbestos depending on the age of the property

[@NBundyElectrical]

Yeah man stayed away from them bud 👍

[@Mancflyer]

@@NBundyElectrical You good job!

[@gmcmaster1985]

£5 done. A worthy cause

[@NBundyElectrical]

Legend thank you 🙏

[@numptienumptie]

The inspection software should support 4" thermal printers - then you can use adhesive label media to print your own circuit detail labels, with your branding, but without need pre-printed labels

[@smedoz]

Do the regs reguire armored cable ever? Where we are if the cables are exposed and not in a conduit, we need to use armored cable.

[@hollysilk1154]

It is load first but led lighting is a pain you no best your amazing sparks

[@garethhodson3896]

Breakers normally go highest to lowest away from main switch?

[@CrazyLogic]

On the busbar thingy - wouldn't it make more sense to have it as close as possible to the main breakers to lower the effects of voltage drop across the bar - all be it it should be in the mV range or the bar is too thin.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

I just thought it was a logical thing to do

[@tww5719]

Hi nick,not sure what to do to donate once I got on to the gofund site ?

[@2k2krish]

nice video mate, was that an asbestos ceiling tho?

[@sdgelectronics]

Definitely asbestos

[@mrbeckles77]

Nice work as always Boyz! What size earth did you use to earth the adaptable boxes and why? 👍

[@Azlehria]

You bond conductive enclosures (boxes, conduits, ladder trays, etc.) to earth ground so that any exposed conductor trips a breaker rather than shorting to another circuit or making the enclosure live to electrocute someone.

[@mrbeckles77]

@@Azlehria yes, I understand that, but what size earth conductor should be used and how do you calculate that size is what I meant to ask.

[@misstakenot9582]

@@mrbeckles77 I'd assume the CSA of the CPC of the highest load contained within the box, on the basis that more than one simultaneous fault would be extremely unlikely. Would like to know the proper answer though.

[@wimms88]

Hi What multi tool blades do you use for cutting the fuse board ?

[@bellas_switch_adapted_toys]

Was it expert electrical that ran your Wiska glands out same day??

[@TheHeinemw]

Nice way to extend the leads to the new fuseboard. Why did you make huge pigtails to earth the metal boxes?

[@NBundyElectrical]

To be honest no reason what so ever