Turned up to Rewire and lost a £1000!!! Honesty pays, Electrician

[@yusufali9686]

This is why ur successful mate💯 good honest electrician

[@FistralG]

To be more accurate you didn’t lose a £1000 you lost the opportunity to earn £1000 and enhanced your reputation as a trusted tradesman.

[@supersparks9466]

Obviously the correct thing to do, forget the honesty or saving the client money thing , I’d rather loose the 1k than have to rewire the lights in an occupied gaff.

[@mixit2413]

Absolutely 100% agree we will avoid rewires at all costs they are just a pain in the ass. Also, we would always do an EICR before starting any works of this type, especially if we're doing a fuse board change.

[@northernsparky2402]

I’ve had this a lot in my area where they are telling customers it needs a Rewire when it doesn’t. Good on you pal.

[@johncooper5293]

The old rewireable fuses aren't designed to be taken out or pushed in when live. Always safer to turn the power off first.

[@imark7777777]

Yeah that's why they need to be pulled really quick, don't want no arcing or pitting. lol

[@MrImATarget]

@@imark7777777 the arcing is what makes it fun

[@tspirit99]

Unless there is a load on the circuit, it's totally fine... Let me guess, you wash your ass with every shit you take?

[@johncooper5293]

@@tspirit99 No it is not mr shitty hands. By design it was always expected you powered off. But also if fuse had been replaced by home owner, usually left wire around screw too long, so when put pull the fuse you can touch that and get a shock.

[@jamiebourne8047]

@@johncooper5293 You really would have to try to be that stupid!

[@barryromford3792]

I always put architrave back boxes in for wall lights

[@mikeselectricstuff]

different temp readings on L/N tails are probably down to different emissivity of the different colours, not any actual temp difference

[@normanboyes4983]

I think the difference arising from colour alone would be small as opposed to looking at a black and comparing to a reflective surface.

[@edglue6138]

What a word, emissivity. Obviously had to Google it. 👊 I love words

[@dang8795]

@@Woodkin007 no expert but the reflectiveness of the surface plays a big factor. Shiny metallic surfaces for example will give incorrect readings

[@MrCapacitator]

@@Woodkin007 Colour will affect the amount of Infra-red being emitted and this is what is directly measured by infra-red thermometers. The copper inside the tails may very well be at the same temperature but the amount of infra-red emitted by the blue and brown insulation will be different. That is why infar-red thermometers are calibrated by a Blackbody heat source which emits all infra-red radiation whereas other colours do not. Though the difference is only 0.3 degrees in the video and these infr-red thermometers are usually not so accurate that it can discern such small differences.

[@wahsnehmada]

Is no one going to talk about the ghostly woman in the night vision at 11:35 😱😱

[@Cablesmith]

😁😱😱😱

[@ryanthelion84]

Spotted this straight away and came to the comments to see if I was the only one...surprised it’s just your comment to be honest!

[@dmail00]

Pareidolia can be a symptom of paranoid schizophrenia. Are you OK?

[@Mnnument]

If you look. There's a hat on the wall amd a jacket.

[@tww5719]

Sorry to spoil your illusions,it was a hat and coat hanging on hooks in the cupboard 😩😩😩

[@joebristowtechnologicalbre2073]

Good for you man. Always give the customer an honest job. Will see you well for the future.

[@simonbeal2148]

use architrave flush boxes for wall lights

[@Heinrich_Pistor]

Used thermal imagining in big factory setup yearly to check for hot connections on all electrical panels

[@paulsharples1256]

Top man. Treat customers honestly and they will remember you for future work and recommend you to others👍👍

[@skabbymuff111]

Honesty pays mate even if it's in the long run. She will remember you and your honesty next time she has an issue, and will also tell her friends about you. Top job.

[@myfaceback100]

I have always found that by being up front with people you make more money overall as they will be free advertising for your

[@richardwhitear7918]

Another cracking video. Totally agree with your decision.

[@ashleybarratt5292]

Another brilliant video you two are the most honest people I know wish there was more of your selves in the country

[@TheSadcyclist]

Be a huge disruption to the house an its owner doing a full rewire when its not needed, as well as costly, the owner can now afford a packet of chocolate biccies for you both and some tea bags and milk. So well done to you both, the owner will now tell her freinds etc you where honest with her and hopefully youll get more work, i usualy do, word of mouth is more important than advertising sometimes.

[@dc-sd3gd]

Always honest, first thing my dad ever taught me as an apprentice

[@Stop..carry-on]

Your a good man and a credit to the industry. More like you needed.

[@SME_Ste]

Got to be honest like this, its what i’ve done in the past. Mediation, argh! If its owt like the county court mediation service then you never leave with the amount owed.

[@dlongltdful]

Already rewired in the 80's by the looks of it. Amazingly they used the existing conduit drops to the switches, no need for quinetic switches in the 80's and no need for it now, would quinetic still be working in 30+ years?

[@jamiebourne8047]

Always good practice on metal knock out boxes to bend the tabs back at the top and bottom to minimize the possibility of live terminals making contact 👍🏻

[@LeighWinspear]

good tip. do you have to earth metal backboxes?

[@jamiebourne8047]

@@LeighWinspear Yes and lash to metal face plates.

[@naiemar222]

Legend Adam has great patients and you instill that in him makes him a better spark take care both

[@dord1954]

Great that you were straight with the customer well done 👍😀

[@marksmith-ew7ir]

Hi nick and Adam it about time some company has stepped up to helping each other years ago my uncle had a few people didn't want to pay and takes long time to get money back

[@simonparkinson1053]

My college lecturer used to advocate architrave boxes for behind wall lights. I'm surprised they don't make a smaller square box with the standard 2 inch hole spacing that you get on round conduit boxes, many wall lights would fix straight to it.

[@jeffreyoneill2625]

Well done nick honesty goes a long way you will always get work mate I've been in building trade 50yrs, just retired when people can trust you they will always recommend you ,and believe me that is the best way of getting your jobs so nice to see 2 young men being so honest well done lads ,don't ever change to many robbing bar stewards out there and cowboys well done .

[@farmersteve129]

Thumbs up for being honest - would have been easy to take the money & run! A few times in the past I've had similar situations - a couple of customers have bunged a few extra quid for the honesty & make up for lost income etc!

[@elminster8149]

So Pongo Pay is a bit like Escrow?

[@robertmackiey89]

When using the thermal camera I know this sounds daft but if the surface is shiny and reflective (higher emissivity) it will show a higher temperature reading as it can reflect heat from in the room to the camera e.g. your body heat back at the camera

[@ped0000]

I can see the payment thing working the opposite of what you suggest. Asking a customer to deposit money into a unknown, unheard of site or app with a silly name like pongo would make alot of people question if it's safe

[@Cablesmith]

Makes you wonder if the previous spark knew he was lying to get more money. I don’t know how people can do that, I couldn’t bring myself to point blank lie in someone’s face. Honesty is king 👌🏼

[@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname]

He probably doesn't have a KZbin channel and needs the money

[@Cablesmith]

@@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname LOL 😃

[@TheChipmunk2008]

I am an old softy I think. I like the warm fuzzy feeling from doing the right thing. Even when I round 3.99 to 4.00 when adding it to an invoice (for ease of maths) i feel meh, so i remove minor sundries to make it good. I am not a superstitious guy, but i do think what goes around comes around

[@chrissharpe2781]

To honest for your own good springs to mind. A few times I’ve rocked up to replace something and found it’s repairable or a simple fault. Fit the new part anyway and charge accordingly or just fix it and charge Labour???

[@Cablesmith]

@@chrissharpe2781 I recently went to a job to add a light in an extension toilet that had no light.... quoted for a new supply and switch etc Cut a hole out in the centre only to find a cable there, opened the 1 gang switch only to find it not connected there. Simply changed for a 2 gang and put the light in, and told them about it and lowered my quote drastically. I could have easily charged full wack. But just couldn’t do that to somebody. I’d like to hope anybody that works in my house would do the same for me.

[@imark7777777]

That's a much better way to lose money, I was thinking the alternative having to do more work than quoted. But now this customer knows that you're not gonna charge for something that doesn't need to be done, so they might have you back for other things or refer.

[@AndyK.1]

Poor old Jordan

[@AndyK.1]

Different environment. That defo still looks like her house 😂

[@MrAustinPowers]

It sounds a good app but how do you trust the app are they fully regulated and secured if the company app goes bust and how do they make money is it a fee on customer and trader I agree with being honest and checking it’s all fully safe to current regs

[@ra55575]

Wow . Never had a sponsored lecture before. Thanks Pongo

[@dorianwylie9000]

you should try the twin and earth from ireland because they changed the cable type to have the cpc the same CSA as phase and neutral and have it pre-sleeved with the green and yellow insulation, think dave savery came across it a while ago and loved it .....must admit does make the job easier.

[@Mark-lf9cn]

Just had a look at this expecting it to be expensive, only 6 quid more per 100m. Probably worth it

[@Kentish9494]

fair play to you, great to see honourable and honest tradesmen. From this grows your reputation

[@tww5719]

A job like that after taken switches and skts down and another sparkie or rip off merchant had already given an estimate to rewire,might be best to tell the customer and advise them that a test to start with would be beneficial to them before you gave them an estimate,for what you recommend,let's face it you was told they had an estimate for a rewire so you know you can beat that price,and as you say word and mouth goes a long way for more work 👍

[@danelectro68]

Top man, exactly what is needed, good honest guy 👍👍👍

[@jontownsend8090]

Top man for being honest. That will get you a good rep. The heat detection is a great idea, i would definitely use it as part of any future eicr.

[@haydenuk02]

Brilliant work and thanks for the content stay safe and take care

[@A65Bill]

A great promo video for a proper Craftsman

[@marksmith-ew7ir]

The camera thermo camera is great to help with the fault finding

[@petertallowin6406]

Knights in shining Kopex...... Good lads. :)

[@dougsaunders8109]

Good on you. At least to can sleep at night plus the ten recommendations you get from not ‘pulling the customers pants down’

[@garethbott2624]

🤣🤣 sounded like a proper stoke/ stafford lad with the cooker / cucker 🤣🤣great video as usual 👍

[@muzikman2008]

Most of my work is from previous happy customers, be honest, do not rip them off...treat them as you want to be treated. I'm not rich but my pride is intact, and i get lots of repeat work. Good policy if starting out like i did nearly 4 years ago, keep it simple, good ethics.

[@normanboyes4983]

Well done? The thermal imagers are a useful survey tool we used to use it on 440v systems in ships looking for hotspots in switchgear/ panels and cable runs.

[@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname]

They are handy for finding Grow Houses which are nearing harvest time. Ahem, so I'm told.

[@normanboyes4983]

@@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname A clamp meter is cheaper.😉

[@mrnelson2990]

That is some crazy looking wiring. In the U.S its romex.

[@mssays8525]

Question; at 13.08 you said "This could be interesting to play with" and pointed the thermo at Adam. Just to be clear did you meanThermo or Adam you want to play with?

[@pauliboo2]

Being honest has probably got you more subs too (including me), that Pongo pay sounds brilliant too, so thanks for that.

[@davesmith7981]

Great video great gadgets as usual well done

[@GreenHawkElectrical]

Nice one nick best to be honest you will be there electrician for life 👏👏👏

[@MrImATarget]

Are you going to confirm if the sockets are ring circuits because you want to uprate the protective device to a 32A? The existing fuseways are 15A

[@Ragnar8504]

At least you'd hope there's 15A fuse wire in the blue carriers rather than 30.

[@MrImATarget]

@@Ragnar8504 may even be 60A lol

[@petertrevena804]

Honesty does pay!

[@jameswoods7276]

Great job at being so honest with the customer. A happy customer tells 5 people a unhappy one tells 10. And what the heck at 11:35 ... Clearly the outline of a old woman there watching you. CREEPY!

[@dekeg]

I hate when I have to take my gloves off so people can hear me 😅

[@johnibbertson2960]

nick watched some of video at consumer and you said immersion heater on a 6amp surely thats way too low a breaker?

[@00djferni]

If my wiring and fuse board were this old I’d want a full rewire and new consumer unit. Not everyone wants to make do and mend. Great video though, always helpful and insightful, thanks 🙏

[@Ragnar8504]

For me, it all depends on how everything looks and if you want to do any alterations. If you/the customer wants a bunch of new lights and sockets or if the wiring looks like a pot of spaghetti (I think CJR Electrical had a video like that a few months ago) it's much easier and faster to do a full rewire but if everything's as neat as here and the customer doesn't want any alterations, why rewire?

[@imark7777777]

this Looks like it's going to be a beautiful install, can't wait for the next video in the series. here in the US we have to secure the cables at least in new installations so many inches away from the box in the wall. This means that anything you have to redo later on you're stuck with how much slack you have and you have to pull the whole box out and undo the clip which most likely won't give you any more slack. I really need to look into why this is a requirement when it doesn't seem to be in many other countries. I know it's partially supposed to keep the cable from being in the middle of the cavity to protect it but if the homeowner wants to put a nail through the wall.........

[@Azlehria]

Interestingly, the securing requirement doesn't apply to fished cable. You only have to start securing once the cable reaches an "accessible" area - open attic, crawlspace, etc..

[@imark7777777]

@@Azlehria I don't remember exactly what it was but we and the US are required to have means of securing the cable every so many inches/feet. So basically to avoid any mechanicals you're securing every 16 inches more less. down a wall then it needs to be secured coming into the wall cavity and going into the fixture and if it's a long run a few more spaced out. For new work..... for old work it's whatever you can get to, and it's pretty much considered grandfathered so unless there's not anything majorly wrong with it and it's reasonably to code. it's OK. I look at these videos and go if only it was wired that way it would've been so easy to fix. In some ways we have some strict requirements in other ways we have some pretty laxed ones. From what I understand Australia doesn't even require their boxes to have backs!

[@Azlehria]

@@imark7777777 Right. Discovering that exception in the NEC was a _major_ relief as I'm looking at rewiring my house piecemeal and on a budget. Not having to open walls is an unspeakable savings. On the other hand, if I did have to open them up I'd probably just run EMT everywhere and fish individual stranded. I still have a bit of that to do in the unfinished shed, and then there's exterior stuff that's PVC _water pipe_ stuffed into regular 4S boxes . . .. That'll be bell boxes coming straight through the wall from the crawlspace.

[@zakkane4226]

Did anybody notice that the thermal imaging camera looked like there was a outline of a ghost 🙄

[@jix177]

Yes was thinking the same around 11:20 ! Rewound it for a second look, think it's from stuff hanging on the hooks.

[@zakkane4226]

Spooky stuff

[@edglue6138]

The pan racks in the kitchen must be pretty close to cable

[@spakkawasp4680]

Watching this reminds me of when I was working with my bro as an apprentice. Miss the days, I now work for a bank haha a bit different. Never had a multi tool so hammer and chisel it was.

[@B3CK377]

Have you seen the BV9900 Pro phone? Decent thermal FLIR camera on asmartphone

[@sdworldwide54]

Quality video again guys

[@ElectroSwingable]

Nicely done

[@alexmackay3580]

Howdy nick Alex from donny here, could you do a video on how effective LSF cable is when on fire compared to standard pvc/pvc twin and earth. Ps gutted about the tool bag

[@JJ-kr6ky]

Reputation is worth more than £1000. Good one👍

[@yrification]

To be honest using that thermal camera in domestic is a bit pointless. In industrial and commercials, loads are a lot bigger and insurance companies request annual inspections. Unless you have someone trained on site to take readings and keep records.

[@curlywood]

aey, at 11.35 i see a ghost on your heat sensor left of your work mate

[@TheChipmunk2008]

100% for being honest. It will not only get you repeat business, and word of mouth recommendations, but on a [to me more important] different note, as you said, it's just The Right Thing To DO. It should be second nature. Sadly it's not... kudos to you and Adam for being on the right side of everything :) One minor niggle... it's a Voltag Operated Earth leakage Circuit breaker... not vo rcd. it's operated by fault (touch) voltage. Not residual current. I know it was a slip of the tongue :) but i have to be a pedant

[@TheShoeStop]

Why do you have to sleeve the ground wire in the UK?

[@barrybritcher]

So you can identify what it is

[@AndyK.1]

Helps stop it touching anything it shouldn’t

[@leighbrowne8863]

I have fitted 6 of those wall lights! there horrible!!!!

[@mahlapropyzm9180]

Well, you haven't lost £1000 if you did £1000 less work. You did get a chance to be honest, which is priceless these days.

[@kingofthetrowel1725]

Nice one nick 👍👍

[@RichardArblaster]

Nice little thermal imaging camera 😎

[@am11744]

And what happens if Pongo go ping?

[@effervescence5664]

Pongo is basically money in escrow, been used for property/ cars and alike for decades and is a really sensible route when dealing with large sums of money. You are doing exactly what I'm doing for a landlord currently, only doing what's absolutely needed (basically rectifying last tenants DIY kitchen and upstairs sockets). Gets more work in the long run when you're honest and only doing what absolutely needs doing.

[@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname]

And how are they regulated, who ringfences the money? If it's not a Govt agency, forget it. (And that is not to say the Govt are any more honest, just they won't go bust and stiff you, whilst pointing out some small print which says their guarantees are worthless)

[@normanboyes4983]

@@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname Escrow services are regulated by the IFA - one needs to exercise due diligence by checking the service provider is currently registered .

[@IsThisAvailable550]

Watched & liked. The comment (as *any* comment) is just for analytics to help promote the video Thank you

[@montystelevision3238]

There’s “thermal imaging users” and “qualified certified thermographers”. Either way it’s another thing that needs an annual test and calibration.

[@haldo691]

Lesson learned never take anyone else's word for anything

[@gourdarchibald6588]

You Good Job! - more importantly - You Good People!!! Honesty and Common sense are both on the endangered list - sadly.

[@phillipgwynne6580]

With that thermal imaging, it’d be interesting to see temperatures coming from the rcbo’s on new consumer units, and if spacing them apart with blanks makes a difference, because Chris from CJR is keen to do that, and can’t remember for sure, but sure another KZbinr, yourself/Jordan/Sparky Ninja? Has also at least mentioned this. Even though I’m not an electrician just have a good interest, I’d be keen on having a thermal camera. Maybe monitor temp when overclocking my PC!

[@lewis94uk]

I feel it's unecessary as if it was an issue the manufacturers would recommend it like with contactors they state you must leave space to allow heat dissipation

[@phillipgwynne6580]

@@lewis94uk That’s my thinking, I assume there’s some heat testing of rcbo’s by manufacturers for various reasons and also research never mind regulations.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

We are in our 18th version of the regs, and I would have thought by now, that if it were necessary the powers that be, may have done something by now, not to mention the manufacturers. People do it for attention, look at me, I am great, I am doing something different, it serves no purpose especially in a domestic property. This is what would happen, someone like me would see the spare ways and use them, look at the board and think, why have they done that, what a tit. Or are you meant to replace the board again, because you want to use a spare way, more waste more expense, crazy.

[@andrewlougher-harris5492]

what's in the old Bill fuse board underneath the cupboard

[@NBundyElectrical]

It was running the old garage supply bud 👍

[@chrislewis7437]

Not too sure about PongoPay, their website suggests that the funds in their Safe Deposit Box are regulated by the FCA, however I can't find PongoPay on the FCA register and I've had no reply from them about their FCA registration number. I wouldn't be happy putting my money into a scheme not registered with the FCA.

[@shilks8773]

What happens if Pongo goes bust ?

[@BlackhillPunk]

So pongo is like an escrow?

[@almostanengineer]

Pongo Pay is essentially an escrow service.

[@joffey1990]

could see that light falling hahahah

[@geoffreykamau438]

Can you make a video of you doing the paperwork

[@AndyK.1]

Dave savoury did a video recently

[@geoffreykamau438]

@@AndyK.1 what’s the video name

[@AndyK.1]

@@geoffreykamau438 DSES kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYjFaqFqjpWXe6M

[@imark7777777]

Those two way radios are pretty good, the Motorola and Uniden are just a little bit better made. although I can't speak for that model exactly, I have had experience with a couple models from all brands mentioned. Having good communication really does help, using cell phones is well convenient you lose a bit of time having to go in and redial and wait for the call to connect which also eats battery if you don't hang up. I much rather have a dead MP3 player, tablet or radio than a dead cell phone halfway through the day.

[@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname]

I'm appalled at their lack of radio etiquette though. Not once did I hear them say "Over" at the end of a transmission. Whatever next?

[@imark7777777]

@@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname yes unfortunately.... The blister pack Pirates as I recently discovered the term for. At least in the US that radio would be considered FRS/GMRS and technically requires a license but nobody has one I'm sure as the majority of them are bought in Wally world in a blister pack. I'm not sure what the regulations would be for the UK and I don't seem to be remembering that at the moment. And by default most of these radios will have a Roger beep enabled. As somebody who has both put off, lacked time and commitment to sit down for my ham license...

[@richardday2893]

I'm watching this on my bv9900 pro. Has built in thermal camera 📷

[@EruElectrics]

Had a read through the Pongo and to be honest I don't see the point on them. The problem they claim they solve you can sort our yourself by putting more effort on positioning yourself as the local trustworthy spark. And at the end of the day if the customer turned out to be a twat, you are not anywhere better anyway. They only thing they will do is mediation and I'm pretty sure it won't be done by a professional. Taking deposits and payment on completion before you leave the property are also some other ways to weed out bad customers. I had one that rejected a quote because didn't want to pay the deposit, later I found out that the spark who did the job was complaining that the customer was a pain in the arse. Kudos for not doing the rewire, next time test it first 😉

[@1mannik]

nick bundy ... u good job !! Honesty is always the best way

[@aidanleach7036]

We have the same radios :))

[@melissaatkins8453]

Hi Nick & Adam, we love your videos, but my husband always comments to me “how do they (people in England) get their metres read to work out how much you pay for your electricity?” In Australia our metres are outside our houses/dwellings & the electricity company comes around & read our metres.

[@AndyK.1]

They trust us to send them the meter readings 😂. Alot of our meters our outside. They are fitting smart meter to transmit the readings 🙄

[@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname]

The electricity suppliers here send a man round to read the meter too. Well, sometimes it's the supplier, sometimes it's a p ikey who knocks you about a bit, ties you up then nicks your life savings from under the mattress. It's a kind of lottery we have here, I think it's the "Who's that knocking on my door" lottery. I'm sure I've seen an ad on telly. We are now encouraged to put our faith in those wonderful technologically advanced supply companies, and have a Smartmeter fitted which allows the supplier to get an accurate and swift picture of your electricity usage so they can bill you easily and confidently with a smile. These are the same companies who lose our data every 5 minutes and use call centres in Bombay where they can get away with paying Sanjay £5 per day, so long as he swears his name is Peter and says he is in Gloucester when you speak to him. And you will want to speak to him, namely about your gargantuan bill which seems to be for the whole town, rather than your tiny abode with 1 light bulb and a fridge, as it has been for the previous decade. The meter can't be wrong though, can it guv? HM Govt would like us to all have these meters, despite knowing they are about as reliable as Boris in a "Keep-your-dick-in-your-pants-contest" at a typing pool, and that each supplier has their own meter type which is incompatible with the others, so if you are being bent over by one company, it's a long slow painful process to switch to another gang of bandits. Quel surprise. Hmm, yep, I think that covers it...

[@metrotechguru5863]

@@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname Brilliant.

[@melissaatkins8453]

@Jules Moules thanks Jules, unfortunately our metre readers come every 3 months on the dot. 😃

[@guitarpup4]

No rabbits/rats this week!

[@9plusinstalaciones]

Good lad 👍

[@BrianSmith-ow9gy]

You're right about honesty but she will inevitably need a full rewire and every year that goes by that will get more expensive. Inflation, costs of labour and materials and ever increasing regulations will add a £1,000 or more to the job when it eventually becomes unavoidable. Might have been OK to explain how getting it done now might be the stitch in time?