Backfire G2T Speed and Range Tests - What's it really like?

[@turboheath]

No joke. The sounds from the wheels was therapeutic.

[@DanielKwan]

Glad you think so! I decided to go with no music because I liked the road noise. Wasn’t sure if it was too loud tho.

[@DanielKwan]

Answers to the questions you posted before will be in a separate video coming soon!

[@DanielKwan]

@@jun8812 Pairing works on other Hobbywing ESCs but the motors may not work right. For instance when paired with the Verreal F1, the motors turn much slower than normal, and the trip meter and odometer don't show anything. Works fine when paired with Backfire G2S though, but no turbo.

[@gghdjekrkk7711]

Was this review wih 83mm wheels ore 96?

[@mikemurrayaudio]

Awesome reviews on the new G2T board. Thanks. I decided to buy one yesterday! Largely based on these reviews and great footage. Well done.

[@Shastay0]

Dang I can’t believe skateboarding is illegal! That’s nuts man. I really hope they legalize it soon!!! I also wish I had super nice roads to ride on like you have in this video! I just ordered mine yesterday and I’m so excited to try it

[@petersahlberg2114]

video stops at 16:15 ... NOOO.. is it on purpose ? its just where you are going to talk about what can be improved ... and then again at 16:23 !???? am i the only one experiencing this ? i need that last bit of info before pulling the trigger on this board :D

[@DanielKwan]

Lol sorry I was messing around. That part will be in a separate video where I summarize my thoughts in a much shorter video. Basically I wish the turbo mode was stronger but it’s otherwise a good upgrade from the G2S.

[@IkEisawesome7]

@@DanielKwan I loved the end of the video

[@MrBlompod]

@@DanielKwan Hey Dan have you made that "much shorter video" summery yet?

[@halfcabking]

lol

[@RobinUjlaky]

Great video dude, will get one g2t for myself once the winter passes. Trying to resist the urge to buy it right away... Its hard

[@domobrah2671]

hey any new updates on your purchase decision? Im looking to buy this board too but am not sure yet

[@MrJanJan]

@@domobrah2671 I'm planning on buy this board or the backfire 3 on cyber Monday which is killing me but I must wait lol

[@skatingeezer3952]

5:16 Informative video Daniel.. I'll be riding around town on my G2s once the temperature here in Germany gets close to 10 C.. I haven't asked the Polizei,, but I've read that presently motorized or not skateboards/longboards are not authorized on public roads,,, but that government is considering amending the laws.. I intend to ride in the bike lanes when possible..

[@einschmock5004]

Moin fellow german, try to avoid police while riding your esk8 as much as possible. For riding any type of unlicenced motorised Vehikel you can expect fines of up to 5000 euros and your drivers License will be taken away. No I am not making this up. So far there seem to be plans to legalise e scooters but there are non regarding electrik skateboards as far as I know.

[@einschmock5004]

Btw where do you live roughly? Maybe we could ride together

[@skatingeezer3952]

@@einschmock5004 I believe you, thank you for the info.. Sadly I see unlicensed electric bicycles every day,, clever riders after gaining momentum continue to pedal,, though the battery is primarily what maintains their speed.. I may attempt to get a license/registration for my G2s,, curious to hear officials explanation..

[@einschmock5004]

Leider kann man sein eboard nicht anmelden. Es zählt sowohl als spielzeug (longboard) als auch als einspurigen kfz unter 45 kmh. Da mann daher weder auf der straße. Novh auf dem fahrradweg fahren darf, gibt es soweit keinen weg über den man ein Bersicherungskennzeichen erwerben könnte

[@gijsvanderworp7712]

Orderd it the day you uploaded you're reaction like video. Great video, really enjoy you're content🤟

[@crazyforhalo1]

Awesome video as always, useful and informative, the only reason I don't want this board is because the hubmotors wires are not inside the truck like alot of companies are starting to do which helps massively with waterproofing.

[@andreyrekk8994]

Almost 13 miles till remote started to vibrate: 215lbs weight with gear, +27C/81F, mixed Eco/Sport modes. Board charged up in 1hour 30mins after the ride. Specs say the battery can be charged in 2h30m; so, maybe there was still some capacity left for another 3-5 miles or so. I've got a question though - does the built-in BMS (battery management system) protect the battery from under-voltage/over-discharge? I hope it does since it is very important for Li-Ion.

[@SleptOn]

Regarding the turbo button I’d like to see a hill climb test. Does it actually help vs any other hub motor board aka can it hang with belt drives

[@gameflopvideos1504]

i dont know this for sure, but the use of a belt drive is worse on many things. for one, the weather. it limits use of a belt driven because the belts are very vulnerable to extreme cold and extreme hot. as well as water. the electric hub ones can be made water proof and has enough heat to dispose of any inner condensation that happens over time. but the belt ones do have more torque. only thing you gotta worry about is breaking a belt. the hubs dont need to worry about that any, if they break a bit, they will still run, they will just grind and back break a bit. if the original g2 can take a 25degree hill at 16-20mph, then the g2t will take it at less than that. based on there full speed capacity

[@TheBoardGarage]

I'd love to be part of your video for legalizing eskating.

[@DanielKwan]

Great! I will do a community post about that soon.

[@jmelight142]

Maybe a dumb question for anyone to answer , once the battery runs out on the board will it still function like a regular manual board or does the motor add drag to the wheels

[@SleptOn]

I remain impressed that these videos are produced on an action camera with no microphone. I think a video showing your workflow would be interesting. Keep up the good work!

[@DanielKwan]

I do have an external mic attached to the camera. My workflow is kind of messy haha... But I should do a video so people who know better can point out how I can make it better.

[@SleptOn]

Daniel Kwan that and there are so many you tubers carrying large dslr kits while they ride their boards when quality videos can be made with an action cam. I don’t really see the distorted “GoPro” look, do you fix that in post or is there a setting in the cam you use?

[@Czar1249]

@Daniel Kwan Comment for the Backfire 1/5 battery thing - Mine was at 0.5 lights out of 4 on the original remote and I managed to get another 3 miles out of it because it would go back and forth between 0.5 and 1 light every half mile. Might be inaccurate readings from the Ranger entirely.

[@tipsy113]

Great video Daniel

[@DanielKwan]

Thanks!

[@123glass7]

Been waiting so long for this man that's tough those rules are stupid especially cuz u have such beautiful flat land places to skate

[@Dr.LoveCS2]

It shipped today....... yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay i cant wait :D super educational video you know i gotta subscribe (Y)

[@47zaxer]

Hi! Just heard you sayin you want to make a video of why electric skateboarding should be legal, with people around the world participating... nice! You have two, my girlfriend and i are so pissed of from the restrictive laws and high fines in spain and would love to help you if you really want to make that video. Would be very good for the Esk8 community. PS: I finally chose this board, hope you were right!!

[@Dr.LoveCS2]

I will join from denmark (Y)

[@Brixjust4me]

I join too from Germany!

[@botterboysypher9569]

I’ll join too from Switzerland

[@zawcy2043]

47zaxer Im from the United States so im free to E Skate almost anywhere outdoors Wish you guys good luck to get your freedom

[@dreambuilderspromotions3]

I would join from united states

[@bittewarten3783]

Wow first offence in Germany is taking away your board and issuing a fine of 500€ minimum. But if you’re lucky the policemen will just be cool with it or ask if they can ride.

[@einsteind]

nice review of the board. it was the police on bikes that chased me down twice on the same day here in xuijing, keep me/us updated on the video you mentioned

[@einsteind]

I will be in the Jiangsu province (wife's hometown) for the spring festival will be using the board there for the first time, hope things/rules are different there

[@DanielKwan]

I didn’t get stopped even once in Gansu during the road trip. I have a feeling only 1st tier cities would have or enforce these rules.

[@einsteind]

I think your right, simulary for flying drones,

[@bonegoodson]

I like your videos, sorry about your local laws. It’s wild there is so much resistance towards electric skateboarding.

[@gianp86]

thank you for review . Explain and video are super. Thank you from Italy

[@JT-xf9sw]

I ended up buying this board from Amazon...really impressed. I paid $60 for the Amazon 3 year warranty.

[@lphchld]

Been waiting for this video. Can't decide if should get the G2T or the Ranger X1.

[@aeyet8184]

My next board will be the Ranger. Just too many problems with crappy roads covered with pebbles. And the Ranger should be superior in all types of weather. AND, the Ranger has far more range.

[@gameflopvideos1504]

@@aeyet8184 hence the name, ranger lol

[@aeyet8184]

@@gameflopvideos1504 lol, yup. Makes sense. I'll have to see though if it can do the 33km range advertised.

[@gregorypatzelt6964]

@Daniel Kwan good video as usual. That winding reddish path looks so fun to ride on! How does this start up against the exway x1 as far as speed, acceleration/torque, carving, ride quality, and range go? I know your like both boards very much, but which would you choose of the 2?

[@DanielKwan]

In theory the Exway should be more suitable for high speeds (45° trucks, stiff deck). Pretty sure the Exway still has more torque but I’d like to compare them side by side. Ride quality on rough roads, G2T has 96mm wheels. G2T has much better range. My personal preference is Exway with a quick charger but I live in an area with good roads and lots of places to charge.

[@gregorypatzelt6964]

@@DanielKwan I currently have the Enertion raptor 2.05 (raptor 2 with new focbox unity but still has the previous motors) so that's my distance board, a boosted v2 dual plus xr battery, and the Ownboard W1s with 6.4 lg. However, like most other people who become addicted to eskating, you can never have enough boards! The two of those boards I've mentioned above have my attention for some reason.

[@markhunter7056]

what shoes are they Daniel? great vid btw

[@TheSnakenat]

What's your overall opinion on this board ? Do you recommend it for first timers ?

[@DanielKwan]

I think it’s a great value. I’ll have another video soon that summarizes my thoughts. And yeah it’s fine for first timers. Just set the remote to Eco mode.

[@KRIZINKGRIN]

Nice wide open smooth roads my friend hard to find in London town but anyways nice review keep up the good works👍✔

[@maxtan3682]

Great review, I will be waiting for your next video. Have you try the meepo NLS?

[@DanielKwan]

I have not but I’d like to

[@FlnDtr]

Whats your camera set up dude? Looks great! Thanks for your videos, thinking about getting the G2T for myself

[@DanielKwan]

I have a list of what I use here: www.amazon.com/shop/danielkwan/

[@realmcerono]

If you get caught with an eskate on the roads in switzerland you pay up to 600chf (like 600usd).

[@botterboysypher9569]

McE McErono I live in Switzerland and i would rather risk that fine then get written up in a Strafregister

[@Jack-Kobayashi]

Hey, which one do u think is better? The Teamgee H20 or the Backfire G2t?

[@odlanorirom]

..nice review...is it a stiff board or a flexible one?

[@andreatura8823]

Not bad my friend ! But I have a question.. Can the G2T fly with airlines company? Or is better the Miles Board?

[@lamarphill1715]

This may be silly but every video about the turbo the people start it from a standstill. Can you activate turbo while you are already moving quickly? I wonder if there would be a difference.

[@DanielKwan]

You can but you have to let go of the throttle first. Let go, hit turbo, get back on throttle.

[@tigerduke1]

At full throttle mode S the ESC consumed about 20A current. Means for a 10s2p battery, 10A each cell. At 10A discharging current the cells get hot enough to get the complete capacity out of them. So the reach will be identical indenpendently the outside temperature is 10°C or 30°C. You will only have less reach when the battery temperatur is down, but with 20A current in speed mode and 30A current in turbo mode, the battery temperature never will be under 30-40°C !!

[@walala9885]

thanks for your video . do you have battery issue like the one in the previous vision ? how long is the battery life ?

[@pinnait]

Uhhh Brakeeees works!😍 Do you think that g2t is really safety now with them? ¡ GRACIAS Daniel !

[@DanielKwan]

I think good brakes help a lot for aggressive riding and emergency situations.

[@gary3669IFH]

Daniel, I have a G2s and I'm interrested in the Backfire Ranger X1, could you compare turning radius, acceleration, braking, torque and sag between the two? I put a SANYO 8.4AH battery in my G2s and it lasts for waaaay longer than before, if a video is too much, could you just reply in the comments what are your thoughts comparing the two boards? Great videos, Best of luck! Rafael

[@DanielKwan]

Turning radius about the same. Everything else you mentioned is much better on the G2T. I like the Ranger but its acceleration and braking are so slow. And the top speed seems to drop to 30 km/h pretty quickly, but it stays there until it’s almost out of power. I’d like to put in a vesc if I get a chance.

[@rodogg34]

How Is backfire customer service and board maintenance?

[@Stanislasz]

For everyday use would you recommend this board? Like for going to school and doing some commutes in the city, or would you maybe recommend more of a smaller electrical skateboard?

[@DanielKwan]

I’ve used a number of smaller boards but I highly prefer longboards. I think G2T is good as a general purpose board, especially since two wheel sizes are included.

[@musicxtech6680]

👏🏻👏🏻 "meme revie..." oh wait ..

[@anitasteele4052]

Thanks, How do you think it compares to the exway and when are you doing your US skateboard 🛹 road trip?

[@DanielKwan]

I personally still prefer the Exway because it’s lighter and I don’t need much range. I’d like to ride them side by side to compare tho. They’re both quite good I think. Road trip probably in or around May but not confirmed yet.

[@magneto6822]

So is G2T faster than backfire Hammer?

[@ethan5439]

So I’m confused does the turbo mode only boost the acceleration of the board to the top speed or do you need to be in turbo mode to actually reach the top speed of 23mph????

[@DanielKwan]

Turbo boosts acceleration and removes the top speed limit for 30 seconds, but for most people the speed should top out in the low 40s km/h.

[@marar4843]

Hi Daniel!Do you use any special backpacks or any accessoriorium to carry the skateboard when you're not using it or you can’T use it?Thanks 😊

[@DanielKwan]

No I just carry them by hand, or drag them if they’re long enough.

[@WidroX]

Hey, thanks for the video. Are the Motors in this board mounted the same way as the ones from the G2S? (i.e. 12mm square shaft) Can't really tell from the pictures on their wbsite.

[@DanielKwan]

No they’re different. The rear truck on G2T has axels that stick into the motors.

[@WidroX]

@@DanielKwan So they are kind of screwed in? Hmm, that's a bummer...thought about upgrading the motors only... But thanks for the quick reply!

[@casinomann]

wtf happened at 16:15 ?

[@Lauw10]

Waterflossers u are kidding right ? Keep this content going 😍

[@DanielKwan]

Dental hygiene is exciting!

[@JaimeMayo07]

is that board beter than a wogo 3 or own board w2?

[@kinangeagle133]

How are there no cars on the road?

[@nicorico7745]

Is the breaking for G2T is good ? because i'm from singapore i'm thinking of buy it. use to travel.

[@DanielKwan]

Brakes are very good on the G2T compared to most boards.

[@nicorico7745]

@@DanielKwan Thanks because i watch few other people video they did say something about having a better brakes is better then having more speed.

[@nicorico7745]

Is there any cheapest e skateboard that have good feedback that you would recament?

[@SleptOn]

Interesting. Randy said the turbo doesn’t increase the top speed but in your video it says it hit 44km vs 36km in sport mode. Hmmmmmm

[@DanielKwan]

They went back and forth on that in the last weeks of prototyping. Without load it goes to 48 km/h, so the actual speed you’d get in turbo depends on your weight and stuff.

[@SleptOn]

Daniel Kwan got it.... as in everything related to eboard performance

[@gghdjekrkk7711]

@@SleptOn in sport 37kmph

[@mikeirwin7800]

Can you skate it home like a normal skateboard if you run the battery down, like you can with Meepo and some others?

[@DanielKwan]

Yes. And smaller hub motors should be easier to push. They all have more resistance than regular longboards tho.

[@kranyus2414]

what are those nike's shoes? can pls someone tell me the model? tks

[@ryan.2327]

Anyone know the amp and voltage ratings for the 6ah battery and bms?

[@robxnguyen]

You are my hero my dude. Without the content you have put up for us, I would have probably ended up with a trash board lol.

[@mahabubovi3759]

Is that legal electric skateboard on nyc ?

[@jeremiahcrothers9007]

I have a old 5ah samsung 25r battery. Will the G2T still run with it?

[@DanielKwan]

I think so

[@alexshoemaker812]

cant decide between a G2S or G2T

[@MATLOCKE269]

Why do the cops give tickets? For riding in the road?

[@Duf]

Riding eSK8 illegal in China?

[@DanielKwan]

Not sure about all of China but at least in Shanghai.

[@keiou]

Why is it illegal? Where some people run over or something?

[@thomas.champagne]

Can you reach 40kph without turbo mode?

[@soloidc]

I have a question. So you can’t ride electric skateboards in china ?

[@DanielKwan]

Not allowed for road use.

[@pedxing]

Great video Daniel. Thanks! Hoping that you and @enertion hook up at some point. I'd LOVE to see this board perform with the FocBox Unity as an ESC. =)

[@PSVR777]

This or the exway x1?

[@amortieretro8392]

You seem to be running from cops like a criminal.. what'd you do man?haha My idea is to buy an extra samsung 30Q 6000 ah battery and get about 30 km ride (weight 80 kg) by swapping the first one when it dies with the extra one that I could carry in a backpackjust like you did on the ranger in your china tour with Max. So my question is : no trouble unscrewing the enclosure and get the battery out, but I wonder if it is possible to ride with the battery loose inside the enclosure so I can swap them every time I take a long ride?? meaning I wouldn't use the sticky tape on the back of the battery. Would it make some noise or feel like the battery is bouncing all around the case or something? D you have any recomendation about that? Would really appreciate an answer, anyone.. PD : you haven't complained once about the cold in this one haha

[@DanielKwan]

I haven’t opened up the G2T’s battery enclosure but I believe they now seal the battery in glue, like in the Ranger. So if you change battery, you would be changing the battery and enclosure together. (They sell those together.) 10 °C is much warmer than 7 ° for me haha..

[@amortieretro8392]

Good to know! You got more answers than anybody can ask questions to backfire. They really should give you a board of theirs for free man. Also I was kind of wondering why aren't there any cars on the road while you are filming? I mean it's Shangai right? traffic should be a bitch, I thought so anyway. I gotta say, between police and cold this place doesn't seem to suit you quite well haha keep it up Dani !

[@DanielKwan]

@@amortieretro8392 Shanghai is quite large (it's an entire metropolitan area) and the farther you go from the city center, the more sparse it gets. I purposely went to a remote area that I frequently ride at because I thought there'd be no police. That's why there were hardly any cars in the video.

[@Dylan-gt2qh]

Do you have the 96mm wheels installed?

[@DanielKwan]

Using the 83mm wheels

[@chriscon1808]

How long do these types of boards last? Like how many years?

[@cassius969]

Really depends on the board. The battery is lithium ion so has to be replaced between 300 and 600 cycles depending on how much of a hit on capacity you are willing to take. If you apply something to protect against rust and waterproof it it should last quite a while.

[@Prirrie]

cassius969 What do you recommend to make the board waterproof?

[@gameflopvideos1504]

the original g2 from 2017 got up to 25mph with a 190lb man and a 30lb bag. i still use it and as long as the motors dont get wierd it still kicks up 25mph so the new turbo is terrible in comparison.

[@justusong5397]

Does the motors vibrate as much as the G2s motors?

[@DanielKwan]

Nope. And the truck axels go into the motors so in theory they should actually vibrate less than most hub motor boards.

[@matthewternouth4497]

I managed to also get to 44 km/h on the Turbo Mode. That was a couple days ago at like 10 degrees celsius. (I weigh like 55 kg)

[@maxhuang2095]

Hey I think you have that clinking sound from your front wheel‘s spacers！Try to tighten it a little！

[@DanielKwan]

你怎么什么都懂??

[@Crazzeuuh]

I bought the G2s 2 month ago 😁

[@gabrielm-f3746]

Im not sure which one i should buy how fast does the G2s go?

[@jamesdent9781]

I found myself more concerned with the cops than the board in the beginning... Didn’t realise 4 wheels and some ply is illegal in Shanghai

[@mohammedtalib7831]

KOOWHEEL GEN.2 or this one?

[@SRVideoGame]

Definitely this one.

[@Nandox7]

You're not allowed to ride on the roads in Shangai?

[@DanielKwan]

Correct.

[@konrad129]

r u from UK?

[@DanielKwan]

I’m not

[@alfreddumontiez6244]

In France if you eskate at a speed above 25kmh you have to pay a fine of 1500€ (1650$) and it is forbidden to eskate outside the towns.

[@aaronhuang3319]

I don't understand the turbo for 30 seconds...

[@123glass7]

To conserve range with out having a gigantic battery or when u need it for a hill

[@DanielKwan]

Mainly to protect the battery.

[@pdx96]

Oh oops. My fine was 50 and I argued that it's electric and can keep up with the mopeds

[@DanielKwan]

Lol I did the same

[@KRIZINKGRIN]

Twin Hubs tha best💪👍

[@BigDirtDawg]

That's crazy that they fine u for skateboarding

[@jimmyskejt4966]

Nice board, good film, but when you will test Majestic Boards ?!

[@DanielKwan]

I’ll be glad to cover that board if they send one over 😁

[@Czar1249]

*clap clap* BOARD! REVIEW!

[@walley7897]

hey DANIEL my great grandfather started Shanghai University his bust was in front of the university is it still there his name was Francis White he was a baptist minister have you heard of him

[@walley7897]

love your posts though

[@kenotic]

Is riding electric skateboards illegal?

[@DanielKwan]

Riding any kind of skateboard on the street is not allowed in Shanghai

[@kenotic]

@@DanielKwan well that sucks!!!!!

[@CanWeGetSubscriberWithoutAVide]

Here in germany u can lose ur drivers license for riding an electric skateboard. But if u drive a longboard really nobody cares

[@cassius969]

Which is stupid because unlike a longboard an electric at least has breaks. And not having to pump is safer too.

[@everybody5087]

I noticed your shoes. Noice

[@illiterate.ink.]

4:40 That neon green dot? Do you have like a Halo 3 radar that locates enemies on your HUD visor? I thought green was friendlies. Oh yeah they are friendlies for people not committing crimes. Like you. Lol!

[@donho9644]

Backfire GTS has no braking ability when battery is below %15. Very dangerous when riding and you losing braking ability. I almost crash hard cause i couldn't brake

[@mowcowbell]

Wow, crazy laws you have to deal with regarding electric skateboards. In the US, it is not illegal, but some communities do ban skateboards in shopping areas and sidewalks in front of a business. Our biggest issue is many areas don't have bike lanes and you end up riding in the roadways with drivers that will not slow down or yield part of their lane to you.

[@tr4nsist0r92]

Funny how the streets actually just had an end after 23km at min 9:05, there is no such thing in Germany but police hates e boards as well here..so we got that in common

[@MrBlompod]

Hill climbing ability is soooo much more important than top speed. No one hooks along at full speed anyway. The website says 25% hill grade.... that’s belt drive torque... someone do a bloody hill climb test on it... 😳

[@DanielKwan]

No hills in my area sorry. Just some shallow inclines that any board can go up. Hopefully someone else would be able to cover that.

[@Lacotemale]

Talon Sei did a hill test and it had absolutely no trouble, especially with turbo enabled.

[@nitishgupta5959]

that speedometer on the remote is not accurate, its just what backfire wants you to see

[@zerx205]

meepov2 do u recommend it

[@DanielKwan]

It’s probably ok

[@msteer79]

You scare me with some of those speeds your going at!

[@DanielKwan]

Looks faster than in real life when the camera is low to the ground 😁

[@axolotl5214]

Wow luckily herein in germany they Made it legal a few months Ago im quite happy about it but becquse of This you can Rent e skooters now and there are so many idiots that drive them so uncarefully thats really a mess.

[@stevenwpf1]

What does the cop has anything to do with riding a electric skateboard??? Ok edit, didn’t know you can’t ride That in Shanghai why??

[@realEthanZou]

There's a lane for cars, a lane for bikes and the sidewalk for pedestrians. None of these allows skateboards. Not even a non-electric one. It's because of outdated laws just like that in the UK.