Zero Any Rifle in 2 Shots (Plus 6 common mistakes)

[@backfire]

BLARG! My brain was fried while editing this video and I made a mistake. The "party trick" method is where you keep the reticle of your scope aimed at the bull's eye, but adjust the turrets over to where the first impact on the paper was. I accidentally said it backwards in the video, so I tried to edit that part out on KZbin, but now it's a little awkward. Sorry friends!

[@Sageofthe16]

my mind was breaking trying to figure out how both ways could be true.

[@tyrelhunter6529]

lol i thought my whole life was a lie for a second there

[@williamgaines9784]

Which is why I prefer to "do the math" and click up or down, right or left. The grid targets allow this without having to take a walk and also take a tape measure or calipers. The parlor trick requires one to hold the gun perfectly steady while also dialing the turrets to move the reticle to the hole.

[@johnknouse8846]

I was about to say that was a trick, cuz there is no way that would work!!

[@davidlaney8254]

Yes, once the rifle is placed in the original position as the first shot with the scope aimed at the center of the target, the windage and elevation adjustments are made so the scope is pointed at the POI. Care must be taken to keep the rifle completely still while these adjustments are made. And of course, the accuracy of the first shot is critical. If the rifle wasn't actually pointing at the center of the target when the first shot was made, the accuracy of the second shot made after the scope adjustments will also be off.

[@robertcooper7592]

I've been shooting for 65+ - years, and I learn something new when I watch everyone of your videos. This old man says Thank You..

[@jonathanbennison9220]

8:33 For anyone who doesn't know what maximum point blank range would be. The projectile leaves the rifle, crosses the optic 'zero' plane... Relatively at close range, travels up a modest amount (potentially several inches) along its arc, levels out in the middle range, and then starts to drop back towards the optic zero plane. Its trajectory, arc, continues to drop as it moves forward, and it will reach a point where its drop, equals its early rise. the trajectory curve moves up, comes back down, and drops below the center line. It is possible to exploit that total rise and drop, within a specific range, and possible to change where your rifle optics will naturally zero to the projectile, where the projectile will be high, how high above your point of aim, and what range you will hit you boot end of that wave. If you are aiming for a specific known target size. Ie, a 10 inch plate, or an 8 inch diameter vital. Zone. For an 8 inch target zone. You can accept up to 4 inches rise and up to 4 inches drop. Outside that, you need to adjust to compensate. Your Maximum point blank range (for a given rifle/ammo/optic/zero) would be the distances where, you aim dead center, and the trajectory will be expected to deliver the projectile... Within that 8 inch zone. The tricky part, is that projectile speeds, weights, ballistics, rifle ballistics, All affect the trajectory. So you won't have identical results from. 2 different rifles. Then, once you have your individual. Rifle/ammunition/optic trajectory, then you can work with what range you zero your optic, which will change where the bullet trajectory, intersects the optic plane. You can adjust your MPBR, by adjusting the range you zero the optic.

[@12vibaba]

yea that's what he said🙄

[@jonathanbennison9220]

@@12vibaba sort of. In a manner of speaking.

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

@@12vibaba Would need to watch that part again, but not sure he mentioned the ammo you're using, and projectile weight specifically. This being said, I might be thinking about a different point in the video or one that comes after the 90% of it I already watched 🙂And adding to everything I wrote above, something new: I trust a rifle when I know it has a certain performance. Once the rifle is trustable, then I just check which ammo I can buy the most, while of course, having in mind not buying... unreliable ammo! 🙂Then I try to master that cartridge. Oh but I'm a target shooter, not a hunter, so just disregard me haha! 🙂

[@joemarchinski914]

great tip about the sun...I have been shooting,hunting since age 5 ..now 54...and I have never heard that...thank you🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍

[@chriscook8076]

Nice job! I’ve done the party trick bunches of times and it works. Minimal ammo used is always good these days.

[@CB-68-westcreations]

I figured out the two shot zero technique at what seems like a lifetime ago. I'm glad to see someone else teaching the simple set up. I do use a nonmoving vice for this. Because the slightest bump will make a difference.

[@ChrisVZ77]

Easiest way I have found to sight in once I am on paper is to use a laser. Use a sturdy rest and fire a shot with your reticle on the bullseye. Adjust the laser to be on your point of impact while your reticle is on the bullseye. Then move your turrets to put your reticle on the laser dot. Fire second round to confirm zero. Two-shot zero every time.

[@SubOptimal_]

agreed, its only old heads that dont like these "gimmicks" lol

[@TG-vg3qe]

If you can see the point of impact, why do you need a laser? Just move the turrets to the hole.

[@cwness4587]

Going out to sight in new rifle. So here I am getting a refresher so I don't miss anything. Refresher for me pay off. Thanks again to you and your wife. CW

[@hardingdies7811]

Thank you for your videos in general, and this one in particular. It's been 50+ years since SE Asia and your video reminds me of some lessons in LRPS.

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

LRPS... hmm... "Long Role Playing Sessions"? Well that makes some sense. Hope they were fun! 😛

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Great vid brother. Really good reminder about the sun and shadows.

[@CabinOnTheWater]

Check your ballistic charts and zero at 27 to 35 yards depending on your MV and you should hit 3" high at 150 yards and 3" low and 300 yards. That's a 6" PVC pipe from 1 to 300 yards. Once you zero up close you can verify your hits at 50, 100, 200, 300 etc.

[@backfire]

Good point.

[@mikemellon80]

for people who dont know about maximum point blank range and want to zero for maximum point blank range. google a maximum point blank calculator and put in your BC and Muzzle velocity. it will tell you your near and far zero. my .308 has a 23 yard near zero. so i can be dead on at 23 yards (near zero) dead on at 221 yards (far zero) mpbr of 260 yards. have to check those of course. but you can actually zero for mpbr at only 23 yards or whatever short distance your calculator tells you. still want to check that at long range to be sure. Make sure you are exactly on at the short range. 1/2" off is NOT good enough

[@matthewbeaver5026]

How I do my ar setups. Though for my hunting rifle I prefer 100 or 200. Sometimes depending the load and caliber I'll do 150. To get a better mpbr.

[@dpher1]

So if my. 338 win mag shooting 225g sst is set to 1.5" high at 50m, will it be higher or lower at 100?

[@jdrollason]

Just bore sight at 100 and with your FFP Scope use your reticle and adjust accordingly. I like to use a paper plate on a piece of brown wrapping paper. Did a Ruger American Predator in 2 shots 2 weeks ago at 100.

[@matt79de]

Fun video. Thanks, lots of info. The one thing i'm missing is the "cold bore shot" discussion. Other than that: Just lovely.

[@michaeldaltonsr8954]

As the Go-To scope-"sighting" guy for friends/family for past 50+ yrs, I was recently so proud of myself!!!! I recently bought a Ruger SFAR .308 20"bbl + Bushnell Banner scope. It is to be my hunting/bragging/ Hostile Discourager. My wife assissted in set-up(She's as happy w/it as I am). We set up "bore-sighting" immediately after "un-boxing"!! "How's it look," She asked. "DEAD ON @ 100 YARDS, elevation-wise, possibly 4" to Left, wind-age." Next day @ range, set-up, shot, 4" to left.clk-clk-clk-clk. Next shot, Bull's-eye @ 100 yds!! For now, I'll leave it there. But I feel confident, that I need only to drop it 2.2" @ 100/ to obtain zero @200/be 2.2" high@300yds!! WeHappy!! Hope your post gets straightened out!!

[@gregpace4676]

I bore sight as you did, but at about 10 feet (indoors with a bright light on the target) setting the sight exactly the distance from the center of the bore to center of cross hairs, I then go to to 25 yards and get the bullet hitting about 1 inch low of aim point. At 100 yards, I am usually within a couple of inches.

[@sleepisthecousinofdeath7395]

Ok ok that’s doable

[@justjohnny6559]

Very good info about how the sun can affect our zero thank you so much!🌞

[@DavidS-x9y]

Love your videos! I sight in at 100 but with a 200 yard turret. In other words, for 300 WM you zero at 1.6 inches high. This way less issues with windage!

[@bertoldon]

It’s been fun watching this channel evolve! Keep it up moose

[@rosshill2565]

I bore sight, shoot on paper at 25 yards. Then put your cross hair right on Bullseye, then adjust the scope moving to the hole you just shot on the paper keeping rifle still the whole time, having a lead sled or simmular helps alot. It works just like your way. Now after, move to 100 yards and shot 3-4 shot group like you did and make adjustments as needed. Then shoot second group of 3-4 to confirm you adjustments are right on where you want them.

[@md3280]

It will work on a 2nd focal plane scope if there is some kind of reticle with marks. Usually it’s at max magnification or in the case of certain scopes is that there is a triangle on the magnification setting.

[@timothyhill1792]

I have found when bore sighting. An odd shape like a square is hard to get centered in the bore. I found using a wheel on a vehicle is much easier. My niebor parks rite at one hundred yards from the bench in my garage. The round shape of the wheel, with silver center and black tire surround. Makes it much easier to center. I find doing this I am way closer bore sighting. Than with an odd shape.

[@donbartholomew8273]

How does your friend feel when you shoot the sidewall of his tire?

[@timothyhill1792]

@donbartholomew8273 pretty hard to send a projectile, with the bolt removed. How else would I look thru the bore?

[@jugheadjones5458]

I actually did this today. It worked! I bore sighted it first and the first shot was 1” left and dead on elevation.

[@jaydunbar7538]

Wasting ammo, no such thing. A day at the range is never wasted

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

I agree m'friend. I always enjoy shooting. Always learning, always a different challenge.

[@cadeclark]

Payment for peace of mind is worth it

[@bustabass9025]

Handloaders certainly don't waste anything. We shoot a lot, and we recycle the brass with new components; hardly wasteful.

[@TasteLikeChicken]

Agree absolutely 👍 If it goes, “BOOM”, it’s never a waste

[@bustabass9025]

@@TasteLikeChicken Uhhhh, you might prefer it to go "Bang" instead of "BOOM!" Bad stuff usually happens when they go BOOM... just sayin'.

[@danarenodano7373]

I just got a new sig cross 6.5 and was having trouble zeroing it. This is my first rifle with a scope. I Saw you video yesterday, went out today and tried out what you did in the video. You should rename the video to 1 shot zero! Thanks man

[@philschaefer4651]

The 200 yd zero (maximum point blank zero) is from before there were handy affordable range finders. Dialing your turret for every distance in the field is less practical when you're essentially guessing at the range. It also works well in varied terrain where even a slowly walking animal might be out of sight before you can get your range finder out and dial in the elevation correction. Also, while the method you're showing is a good one and works well, I wouldn't feel comfortable taking a rifle hunting without following that up with a couple groups shot at 100 and 200 yards.

[@thomaslester8702]

I've been shooting for over 45 years. I did a lot of extreme long-range, over 2,000 meters. I do a true 2 shot sight in. I actually boresight the scope and barrel up to 200, then fire first round on paper. Usually within 6 inches at 200 from center. Then I move my sights according to the measurements need to correct the point of impact. Fire second shot and 95% of time I'm less than half of an inch from dead center. If you actually want a scope that can do a 1 shot zero, then look up Dan Sheppard and Sheppard scopes. He makes scopes that have dual recitals and dual scope adjustments. That are worth the money and if you ever wonder if your scope is off, you can verify it by just looking through the scope, and things will either be aligned on not. If not, just move the crosshairs into alignment, and you're done and on target again. They will take you out to 1,000 meters... They are very accurate and reliable. The military uses them to help train sniper in different countries for they are very easy and simple to use.

[@rosshall641]

I always love long-range trajectory you just got to compensate when you are shorter distance😊😊

[@lukedavis6668]

I’m a new follower as of a couple days ago, and I have to say dude is absolutely my favorite you tuber. I’ve watched almost every single one of his video. Accurate information, not trying to sell us stuff all the time, just enjoyable content. Keep it up man

[@rotaman8555]

As a RSO at my local range, I once watched a guy fire 40 rounds of 7mm Mag trying to sight in his hunting rifle. He would shoot once, then adjust his reticle. So, he was just chasing the hole all around the target. After two boxes of very expensive ammo, he was still several inches off and said, “I think that’s close enough:, and packed up and left. It took every ounce of my self control not to step up and tell him how to do it correctly, but first, RSOs are discouraged from offering training because our purpose at the range is safety, and second, he was with several of his buddies and I didn’t want to shame him in front of his posse.

[@JohnSanders-p7o]

Are you sure???? That it wasn't you back before you learned different haha

[@JohnSanders-p7o]

At 224 you confirmed total b.s.on your click bait title but here i am typing points for you algorithm

[@JohnSanders-p7o]

I m sorry for what I said yesterday.

[@1014p]

The other purpose of an RSO is to offer advice when you think its a good idea. Just think he soon might shoot at a living creature to hunt. That as well is safety related and humane process.

[@russ_vee_jr4199]

Really great content. Correction: Outstanding Content! The 'Mistakes' sections brought out some excellent points while the 'Getting on Paper' section was right behind it. Overall, an excellent video presented by an accomplished presenter. Will like/sub immediately.........

[@King420Chevy]

I use Wheelers magnetic laser you put on end of barrel worked. Nice and quick.

[@messianicmuse]

I zero at hundred, then check the point blank depending upon the calibre. Always use groups for fine tuning. Agree with you on moving slightly after zeroing, even with expensive scopes.

[@chrisgunsandguitars1403]

You start out literally bore sighting and that’s great because it works. It helps to have an orange center on the target. Peel off a 1.5-2” Birchwood-Casey orange sticker, and add to the white paper at 100yds. You can center that orange fairly easily in the bore and adjust your scope. You need to do it 2-3 times because it’s hard to keep the rifle steady on sandbags changing views from the bore to the scope. Works great though and saves ammo. The cheater method works both ways. I prefer a 3 shot group. Put crosshairs on the group and then move the crosshairs where I want the impacts to go, which is on the bulls eye.

[@michaeljones-qm4wq]

The difference is statistics.With a 3 shot shoot to confirm you have something like a 95% confidence factor that your group represents 100% (ish) of your shots. 5 shot group it is around 99+%. I cant remember the precise figures, and it doesn't matter: it makes the point. it is all about probabilities and confidence factor. Moving the crosshairs and firing one round is fine for rough sighting in, or a check zero. However it isn't adequate for a "proper" long term zero. 3 or 5 rounds is essential.

[@chrisgunsandguitars1403]

@@michaeljones-qm4wq As I said, I literally look down the bore at an orange sticker to initially zero the scope and then fire 3 shots and make a minor adjustment. After that I shoot 5 shot groups for determine accuracy (precision) with factory or hand loads. It’s all about data points, and 3 shots is just a good start for me.

[@bp814]

Great info! Great video I always love your honesty.

[@stevensyrko7109]

I really enjoy your channel. you really use your guns and they get dirty. some channels the rifles seem more like show pieces

[@Quagmire88]

I use my lead sled and take a shot. After that first shot, without moving the rifle, I then spin my turrets while looking down the scope in order to move the reticle to where that shot landed. I can get a decent zero in 2-3 shots.

[@russparsons3130]

Sun issue very interesting. Learnt something thank you.

[@jorgefigueroa7573]

Jim obviously times have changed, but I remember sighting in at 200 or 2 inches high at 100 on typical hunting rifles. This went on for decades. But what where we shooting, your Classic Remington 700, in a 30-06 or 270. You had a 3x9 Leupold scope Set it and forget it. No turrets to turn or special reticle, it was just a simple cross hair. I still remember many scopes from the 60's that had no turrets to work what so ever. The elevation and windage was done using the bases. Many Weatherby's had those.

[@robertcarey3383]

Yes, back then it was called hunting, and it was done with a hunting rifle. I sure miss those days.

[@russellhamner5150]

I just love this guys channel

[@mattacedo]

I had a problem with zeroing the turret and not doing another four shot group after I reset the turret. You are right sometimes you could get a few slight adjustments off and it’s very important to shoot another group after resetting the turret.

[@rogerdelacruz7551]

To title the video "Zero any rifle in two shots" and then say, "It's unrealistic to zero a rifle in 2 shots" is real click bait-y. Knock it off, man.

[@justengibson1086]

Not at all click bait-y, just the truth and you should realize that prior to him saying it. It’s easy zeroing for those that don’t know.

[@ashnfrank10]

Not click bait you must not know your scope or what moa is I do it in 1/2 a shot

[@JohnTrucker-d9s]

should change the title to "Sight your rifle in with 12 shots"

[@elkmo41]

Also using a target with 1” grids allows you to measure the impact more precisely for adjustments.

[@I_am_archie]

Huh, didn't know that about the sun. 🤠👍 thanks!

[@benjaminchristensen837]

Love the content! Thanks for showing me all of your ideas and ways

[@ronws2007]

I took the grouping for zero. True, you can shoot a cold bore and often, it is not the bore that is the problem but the shooter who is cold. So, before shooting live ammo, settle in and take dry fire shots for at least 5. Practice the trigger squeeze. Body alignment. Body reset. At the range, sitting at a small table, the 7 PRC pushes me back. I have to remember to slide back forward a smidge to "reset" the stable position. It does not matter how much money you spend on a rifle, it will not shoot through the same hole. We cannot escape statistics. The tiniest variance in charge weight, slug weight, distribution of mass in the slug. Heat of the barrel. By the way, there is no gucci steel for rifle barrels. It is all steel. What you do with it can make a difference. The heat of the action. Ambient temperature. So, like Jayden said in the Hornady podcast, group the rifle for the job. I am not taking more than 3 shots on a deer. So, even though shot more than that for a zero, I later confirmed with a totally cold barrel with a 3 shot group. .57 inches. Mean radius from PoA .26 inches. So, I have a high confidence that I could shoot a deer at 300 yards to maybe 500 yards, the farthest I am going to shoot at game. And the 175 gr ELD-X in 7 PRC does not drop below 2,000 fps until past 750 yards. So, yeah, I spent a box of ammo because I need practice, as well. And finally someone says the quiet part out loud. The 100 yard zeroed scope can be dialed to 200 yards and you have a 200 yd zero to act as a MPBR to about 270 - 300 yds. But I also like precision dialing. To each his own.

[@jingles104]

This channel is fantastic!

[@neworleansaints3743]

Thanks for sharing your lifetime of knowledge!

[@freecitizen7372]

I have always laser bore sighted my rifles at seven yard, two shot sight in at 25 yards and two shot sight in at 100 yards. This gives me pinpoint accuracy out to 300 yards.

[@JoeMac1983]

I love how you blacked out the screen when taking out the bolt. 😂 The things we gotta do when making firearms videos to not get canceled.

[@tjfishing2714]

Great content as always. Mabe an episode on reading the Mirage, which can have just as much effect if not more than wind ,especially when the wind is blowing from all different directions. Keep up the amazing work 👏 👌 😊

[@JoeMac1983]

@@tjfishing2714 Thank you? 🤷🤔

[@tjfishing2714]

@@JoeMac1983 so

[@JoeMac1983]

@@tjfishing2714 Pine nuts are a favorite food of the red squirrel.

[@Scottm46]

Thanks for always delivering a Great video, packed with great tips. Question, what shooting rest bags do you reccomend?

[@SamuelBerryhill]

Great video man thanks for all the content you put out. And another thing I like about this video is your using a Arken scope and man I have to say those are awesome scope I know I love mine lol. Also I’ll have to check those ear pro out I’ve been looking for some quality brand to use.Thanks again y’all keep up the good work God bless

[@fatimasilva6782]

Hola exelente video la explicacion de la posicion del sol fue muy interesante saludos desde URUGUAY

[@JohnSanders-p7o]

As former welder i know for sure the best way that doesnt matter!! Only flat ground like this is flatter than hills like further north west!? Balstic probability of firing two shots to zero ANY rifle is marginally better than butter.

[@tc6818]

I was helping a guy zero his hunting rifle/scope and after two consistent rounds he'd make an adjustment. However his next shot was totally off based on the adjustment. I finally looked down hi scope and it turns out his parallax was way off. I could move my head and get the crosshairs to point pretty much anywhere I wanted. Every time he got off the gun he had a new sight picture. We adjusted the parallax and things settled down.

[@henryg2960]

If you have a mounted laser pointed at a particular dot when you shoot at the target. You can keep pointing laser at same spot, and put cross hair where bullet landed. It’s easier to do when you’re shooting alone.

[@somenotherdude333]

Exactly👍 Over the years I've come full circle on being so critical and overcomplicating the process... Now I boresight with laser and for my 270 130gr using a 28 yard zero fire one shot off the bag and usually have to move reticle to poi about 1/2" or less... My friend gets so mad because it takes him forever and this year after I only needed one shot he asks if I am gonna shoot again and I show him the pic I snapped with my phone maybe 3/16" from dead center of bullseye and he just goes back in the house mumbling and cussing the whole way😂😂

[@henryg2960]

@@somenotherdude333 I'll take 2 sometimes 3 scopes to range in brand new box.. Peeps ask me how I use 6-7 shots to Zero them all. When you show them, reactions vary. Most of the are "No ish" , and $40 could have saved me boxes of ammo LOL

[@somenotherdude333]

@@henryg2960 I'm 50 years old now and was 5 when I started squirrel hunting with PawPaw. When I was 9 he gave me a single shot bolt action Stevens and Savage 22 with a bent barrel so you had to cheat about a squirrel's head to the right lol. Looking back now I think having a scope would have taken less skill and been a little less thrilling too.

[@henryg2960]

@@somenotherdude333 I’m only 4 years older than you. Pretty much the same story. Still got the 22 😂

[@ElkRyder96]

Thanks for the tips. I’d love to see a video on your favorite tripods as well as your favorite phone scope options.

[@backfire]

Great idea. I'll add that to my list.

[@ElkRyder96]

@@backfire offer still stands for next year to come to hells canyon for an elk hunt!

[@paradiseisland786]

A pro, brother, great content.

[@dimitristripakis7364]

Hello, I think a laser bore sighter can help. If you install the device in the barrel and then rotate it 360 degrees, the laser will trace a circle on the target.. Then you mark the center of this trace circle and put the reticle on that. This way you start off with a pretty well sighted scope, without even shooting at all. What do you think of this method?

[@jamessammann9183]

Jim I sight in at 25 yards which is 16 clicks at 25 for inch..took my 7prc out to 2000 yards sat

[@Sryofcrv1]

can you do a video on judging which hashmarks need to be used for longer shots on the vortex venom 5-25 in milliradian? I cannot seem to understand how to judge which hashmark to place my target on when I'm shooting out to around 500y. I've got it zeroed at 100y.

[@matthewbruggeman5961]

You can measure with a 2nd focal plane reticle too. You just have to have the zoom set to where the reticle is accurate (which is usually max zoom). I zero my turret for 100 but usually have it dialed to 2.5 to 2.75 high when hunting (depends on the cartridge). And yes I shoot it dialed to check its actually 2.5-2.75 high.

[@skopperkopp6091]

He said that in the video

[@darrylkoehn-ec8mk]

It helps to have a second person to hold the weapon as you walk the reticles over into position!

[@Game_Stalker_MN]

I try to find out what my closest zero would be that would also be zero at 100. Take, for instance, the 120 grain Hornady Match 6.5 CM: zeroing at 25 yards will maintain zero at 100 as well. So, my method involves bore sighting at 25 yards and then confirming with one or two shots at 100. My scope is also 1.5 inches higher than barrel center.

[@AString95]

That’s literally my spot. Heading out there tomorrow

[@Lukeamyster]

I used to only target shoot and zero all my rifles at 100yds (except my .22lr @ 50yds) but now that I'm hunting more I've changed that. After playing around with different bullet weights and manufacturers I have found that in some cases, at least for my coyote rifle (55 gr vmax) and my big game rifle (180gr Fusion), I can zero at 50 yds and that same ammo with be zeroed at 150 yds according to the ballistics information. I like this because I don't have access to a range greater than 100 yds at the moment and this will allow for less bullet drop compensation if I need to shoot my 30-06 out to 500 yds. I'm not as confident in the accuracy of the .223 with my AR so I may change the platform all together or get the AR accurized.

[@doncarnage3539]

Another good video! You make it fun

[@lukedavis6668]

Any chance you could make a video going over ways to improve rifle shooting? I know the video with your wife on the 1-1000yd shooting went over it on some aspects. If so that would be helpful. Thanks man👍🏻

[@Dzdzovnica]

what would be a good way if I can't take out the bolt from the barrel? I usually shoot type of bolt-action air gun (it doesn't require license which happen to be a pain in the back side in my country). Is shoot/correct/rinse and repeat my best way or are there any tricks? taking out the bolt requires to disassemble practically most of the gun.

[@jrago6228]

Great knowledge and video! When you sight in at 100 anything under 100 will be dead on but over 100 yards you will to adjust elevation?

[@johnblankenship4295]

Recently purchased a Remington 783 270 and ordered a scope call the BSA sweet 270 which uses torrents adjustable to the bullet weight. Could you make a video using this scope?

[@russellkeeling4387]

Something I might say about shooting from the prone position. If you are using a fairly heavy recoiling rifle that is the worst position you can choose. Sight in off a bench and there is less felt recoil and it's helpful for new shooters especially or even when you plan to fire a number of rounds.

[@charlesludwig9173]

Shooting from prone can be as good as it gets for zeroing. High Power Rifle Competitors prove it, as well as Soldiers. My experience, from prone sling supported position, is that the position can deliver a Princess and the Pea sensitivity for muscular relaxation which assures natural point of aim consistency. That consistency means my aim can be maintained as the bullet clears the barrel from any caliber and thus point of aim and bullet path usually intersect. I do not do as well from the bench because free recoil becomes subject to velocity inconsistency. My Creds: US Distinguished Rifleman and American High Power Rifleman Award in Long-Range. Also, Military Rifle Instructor assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS Training. BTW, on numerous occasions I have taken rifles to the 600 yard line where during prep period I have bore sighted them on my shooting stool and thereafter adjusted my sight for distance to get pinwheel X hits from first sight-in shots fired from prone sling supported position. At any rate, I am not suggesting you try prone for zeroing as it takes a lot of practice in that position to get good results. But don’t let poor results make you think the position is inferior to shooting from the bench.

[@russellkeeling4387]

@@charlesludwig9173 No thanks. The added recoil from a prone position causes flinching.

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

We just use 200meters to check the elevation of the 200 meter zero. It ends up being about 2,5 inches high at 100meters, depending on load and cartridge. fine adjustments are made at 100 meters. But.. I only hunt with my rifle using a simple duplex retical, and no shots over 300 meters. (maybe once or twice)

[@dougstringer5358]

Can vouch for the GS Extreme. The newer models don't stay in some ear shapes (mine).

[@waynehavard9005]

I looked around found it around the 450.00 mark looks like that would be in there with the Ruger gen2 and others I see you doing a lot just wondering keep up the excellent work

[@tetrakosarihondaturbo2810]

The sun will affect my impact or my reticle to the opposite side? You've said both and those have an opposite effect.

[@That_Stunt_Guy]

Can you please please please do a video on how the sun shifts your point impact? Do polarized sunglasses affect anything? I could be wrong but I have noticed with polarized sunglasses on I always hit high at longer ranges. With glasses off and no other changes to anything my shots hit centered. I also went shooting in direct morning sunlight where all my shots were first impacts on steel, where as the next day I was in cloud cover and was off by almost an entire mil.

[@waynehavard9005]

Love the videos you do but never see the Howa 1500 on your list just wondering

[@abrowncitizen]

Shot 2, repeat shot 1 because shot 1 was off, repeat shot 2 because 1 was off. Repeat a set of 3 to make sure it was really 1 that was off and not 2. Start shooting hot barrel because trying to figure out if you mounted scope wrong. Repeat steps 1- 20 and grab another box of ammo. Finally try 3 final shots on warmish barrel to make sure your on target.

[@abrowncitizen]

Repeat all steps, as you should have dialed all the way up and all the way down to settle all the gears and springs since they have been in shipping storage.

[@qh4007]

Lol

[@richiegonzales6750]

I do the same, but at 25yds, then you are on paper at 100...adjust the reticle up and over for windage and you should be spot on or need minor adjustment....

[@bradbo3]

Whatever gun Im going to use I take to the range...even if sitting in the safe or case...most times its still zeroed from the previous year or last time it was shot. But I still take a shot to make sure. Or if im changing the ammo. If i change optics I always bore sight...of course with my lever actions I cant and use a laser bore sight tool.

[@bradbo3]

Oh and I shoot from a covered outdoor range...so no sunshine on my gun or optics.

[@pickngrining]

Why not add the 270 win mpbr to the list? Is it not a flatter trajectory than 308? Love your content, thx!!

[@kristijanmedved6066]

Hey bro can you review some high end rifles like anschutz, schultz and larsen, ?

[@fergus..]

Great video, whats the make and model of your matt your laying on?

[@tc6818]

11:30 Does the sun still affect your daytime shooting (zero) if it's overcast and there is no direct sunshine?

[@mopardoctor9966]

And what about scope turrets that are gummy or stiff at first and don’t tract until you play with them to get them to adjust. I always move the turret knobs each way and stop on the new setting.

[@bjjukes4969]

The primary reason to sight in your gun at 200 yards (for the MPBR method talked about in the video) is that your scope does not have a turret used to dial in your shots. Most older style scopes have internal turrets that you would not adjust for individual shots at game animals. When using that method with those older scopes you would need to make sure you are not shooting at something beyond the maximum point blank range unless you know how to adjust your point of aim for the greater distance.

[@russellkeeling4387]

The advent of the range finder that is cheap enough for the common hunter made all rifles long range rifles if you know the ballistics of the rifle you use.

[@maxcole3930]

What 308 ammo do you recommend for deer hunting? Most my shots will be 100yards probably a little less. I'm using an ar10. This is my first year deer hunting so I'm not sure what ammo is best? Is a standard 150grain bullet going faster better or a heavier slower one in that range? I know each barrel is going to like different ammo for grouping but still gotta be something that has beat average

[@elbob1491]

By what mechanism does the sun "push" the bullet away 1 click? Light is light, or is it like heating that part of the scope and slightly warping the optics? Some sort of sideways mirage?

[@jeffreinardy7570]

Hello Backfire, Great Content as always. Question, I am going to zero my coyote rifles, it will be a 6.5 Grendel and a .223. My question is this. I have been seeing several Zeroing videos and the 36 yard Zero has my attention. I liked it because of the idea that your groups stay pretty consistent through various distances. BUT have not zeroed that way as of yet. What are your thoughts on this when hunting something like a Yote that you may be at less than 100 yards but also out to 300? If you are not a fan of the 36 yard zero, what suggestions do you have. Thanks!

[@waterishdrake8693]

Honestly, it’s wild that someone would use a box of ammo to sight in a gun! It shouldn’t take more than 5. Looking down the barrel also works for ARs just gotta remove the upper and steady it! I use that technique for red dots all the time. It’s a little tough sometimes on a 5.56 since it’s such a small hole you’re looking through but it works.

[@MrWolfman104]

I have a question for everyone. Also, thanks for clarifying the "party trick" I rewatched it three times like a dumb monley trying to figure out what the heck you were doing there haha. My question is, do you think it is a good idea to "Break in" your new rifle while getting a zero on your scope. I have sighted in dozens of deer rifles in my time and I have always wondered if I was wasting ammo trying to break in and zero at the same time. Is it better to break it all the way in first with random shots, then work on the scope or does anyone think it matters??

[@dominicteresi3835]

You should compare 35 50 and 100 yds zeros

[@edpottinger849]

I sight in using the same method,but I first bore sight at 50 yards.This should put me high at 100 yards by about 2 to 4 inches.I want 2 inches high at 100 yards this puts a no hold over out to 300.After that it could be a problem but in mountainous terrain like the Bulkley Valley or Chetwynd area your shots are seldom over 300 yards.Most are in the 150 to 250 range.If I was shooting for distance I would have a dead on hold at 100 yards and calibrate after that.

[@brkyq]

App? or.. Cheat sheet taped to stock or other convenient place?

[@mopardoctor9966]

What about the many rifles with less than perfect barrels that throw a wild first cold bore shot?

[@TMFShooting]

Another Great Video 💯 Thank you 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@tucosalamanca4478]

I see that you have the Bergara Picatinny rail. I also want to get it for my B14² Crest. Would you recommend the 0 MOA or 20 MOA version?

[@RECTALBURRITO]

Does anyone use the adjustable rail to zero or is it to inconsistent?

[@edwaeable]

how did your third shot hit above the second impact after you pointed at the second impact? what is the reason behind it? could you please explain it a bit?

[@charmainevandiford6622]

Ok I have a question. I was in a Deer hunting club for years. One rainy overcast day several guys checked our rifles and they were all a little out and someone said the barometric pressure was high. Next day same group shot on a sunny day and they all shot much better. Is this true the rain and pressure effects the zero. I have another one they would all tap the adjustment screw with like a pocket knife not hard but they claimed the cross hair sometimes would move and settle. Is this true also. Never see this and I been hunting a long time.

[@IrnMaiden304]

Why not use a laser in the bore to get you close before even taking any shots ?.