Backhoe in a Funk? Recovery & Attachment Tips, John Deere Compact Tractors!

Have trouble connecting your compact tractor backhoe after it sits unattached? Tractor Time with Tim shows how to attach and detach John Deere 270B backhoe on 2032r/2038r when it is not perfectly aligned for the connection.
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00:00 Introduction
00:51 Why did I wait so long?
16:01 Extension Hose Kit

[@ritterjon]

Nice that you can leave the three point linkage on with the backhoe. Doesn’t look too complicated but like you said it probably takes awhile to learn to steps for success. *Keep on tractoring!*

[@RCPSU4]

I was thinking the same thing. Not having to take apart the entire three-point hitch is a big relief (and some could say selling point).

[@Gruuvin1]

About two years ago, Tim recommended I get the 2038R, for my size property and needs, and so I did that with the 270B backhoe, and now I have been through every trial in this video, so this is entertaining to me! Ha! I too, do not follow those steps; I have a better way. When I park the backhoe, I leave the bucket curled all the way out, so that it cannot curl back in over weeks as the fluid leaks beyond seals. Another thing I do is connect the power beyond to the three point AND the backhoe all in series, so that I can raise and lower the rockshaft and use the outriggers to help get everything aligned, then once it's all hooked up, I take the three point hydraulic line out of the circuit, as recommend. It's much less of a fight when you can have full backhoe control and rear hitch control simultaneously while hooking in or unhooking. EDIT: And NOW I finished the video. That extension hose trick is gold, Jerry! GOLD! (thx tim)

[@kubota1100able]

I had a Mahindra tractor 2810 with a backhoe I enjoy your KZbin channel thank you for the Scripture at the end of your videos God-bless you and your family

[@randallthomas5207]

Schedule 80 PVC, cut about a third of it out length wise, and then trim the length to fit, and make blocking units for your hydraulic cylinders. You would need to make four. Two for the outriggers, One for curl, one for the dip. And then it not creep, even if the cylinder leaks.

[@GrampysTractor]

So much funk to deal with, it's nice to see a get out of trouble video. The hose kit looks to be the best way and you get some extension hoses out of the deal. Great video Tim and Christie.

[@EastCoastFlying]

Tim, your videos are great. In fact, we watch you so much, my 2 year old specifically requests “tractor videos” but what he really means is he wants TTWT. We have a Bobcat CT2025 but I like how your videos are just good info for all compact tractor owners in general. If you ever get a chance to try out a Bobcat CT2000 series I’d love to hear your opinion. We sure do love ours! God Bless in the new year!

[@browntigerus]

Thank you Tim, another great video. Had a backhoe in a funk that lost it's pressure after few months of storage. This video would have been really great and saved countless hours trying to figure out what is wrong.

[@MrDoyle07]

This was excellent. Thank you. The 3R with the 385A backhoe is a little different but the information here is a golden nugget!

[@BG-vq9fd]

I do not have a backhoe but I enjoy seeing these details.

[@chuckman2219]

Another great tutorial! Even with the big pin in the boom out storage location I've found that it only takes a couple of inches of sag (and resulting rise in the frame) to make it impossible to get my 2038R backed into position. While a floor jack or some other means to lift the bucket may work in an ideal situation, these hoses will come in real handy when the BH is sitting out at the edge of a grassy or muddy field. Just ordered a set! Thanks for the perfect solution!

[@Kcolby47]

Excellent job of illustrating the normal connection process, but more importantly how to accommodate those imperfect positions that we all find ourselves in at one time or another. The extension hoses are a super idea and, as you pointed out, are standard fittings for Ag equipment. They could be handy a variety of situations when dealing with hydraulic implements on the farm. Also, Christy you did a great job with close ups of the connections and details. Blessings.

[@michaelmartin9618]

Well done Tim! Great help for those with a backhoe. Luv that 2038!

[@jeffslaven]

Every time I watch this channel, I learn something. Thank you Tim!

[@stevebusby6618]

Thanks for the tip about extension hydraulic hoses. A couple of years ago I bought a 1025R with a backhoe and front loader. Every time I detach the backhoe I have to fight for hours to get it reattached because it has gone into a funk. I finally ended up buying two bottle jacks to lift it into position after unsuccessfully trying to balance it with wood blocks like you did in your video. I followed the link for the hoses and just ordered the kit a few minutes ago. I'm sure they will make things a lot easier for me in the future. Thanks again!

[@neilschuette2346]

As always, your video is clear and concise. Good job!

[@jamesyates5191]

Thanks Tim. Very handy tips. Have fun on your missions trip. God bless you all.

[@alittleofthisandalittleofthat]

Wonderful. Best video yet on hooking up the 270 backhoe. 👍 Someday soon I’m going to have one. I hate having to take off the arms on my 1025 to install the backhoe.

[@westtoast74]

The “EZ” hoses are game changers. Well worth the watch.

[@Steve_Wojo]

Outstanding closeup shots & detail in this video ! Very well done. Good Luck on your upcoming mission trip and much success in 2022.

[@randysmith4797]

Great informational video as always. I just got my JD 4052M last month with the backhoe option. I am sure I will revert back to some of your project videos in the upcoming months with some of my own projects. Happy New year and safe travels on your upcoming mission. Also try to stay warm today with the chilly Indiana temperatures coming.

[@johndeere2038r]

Great tips , thanks for sharing your real life experiences . God bless guys

[@photocontrol]

Great options for getting the backhoe out of a funk! Happy New Year!

[@terrygroce1594]

That was a great video on options to hitch the back hole to your tractor. It was a great idea to have those hose extensions. Smart man. A thinker on wheels.

[@mikelewisoutdoors6434]

Always great content. Happy New Year to you all.

[@jamesparthun3529]

Tim, to keep the bucket from moving when unattached cut a piece of angle iron or C channel to fit in between cylinder and the bucket connector. All you are doing is filling up the spot where the ram is. If you make it 1/4” short from where you would like it, you can install when it is on the tractor and tighten it up with the hydraulics. Then reverse when hooked back up. Great videos

[@steventhomson2042]

great video, although new to the rear mount backhoe, I have already experienced that very problem. the kit will be a huge help!

[@dsmaumau9532]

Tim, easiest for me is to connect both hose from backhoe together to close the backhoe loop. Then I can activate the levers and if backhoe is in a position where gravity can help, it will move down. Cheap, quick and easy. This is my experience with my 855 and 7 hoe.

[@rogerf3622]

Just ready to comment on this too, fortunately I saw your comment. This technique works for a variety of attachments.

[@VolgClawtooth]

You are always welcome to come down to Mooresville and we can record some Kioti footage!

[@justinsikes2221]

Hope all is well in the new year! You're keeping us in suspense waiting for the next video!

[@danne77sthlm]

This is a good video, i think everybody should have that extension hoses, it seems like the safest option to do this together with the pin in the locking position

[@frankhartmeyer9841]

Good idea Tim great video. Happy New Year.

[@michaelwymer5604]

Tim your videos are great. I had the same issue with my 270 with the bucket bleeding off. My solution I have found is move your dipper stick out a little farther and curl the bucket all the way out and let the teeth sit on the ground. Haven't had a problem since.

[@jpl8290]

I have performed the same operation and haven't had trouble reconnecting. Even letting the backhoe sit for months bat a time.

[@josephsierra7295]

Hey Tim. That is a great tip. The hose extensions seem to be a must have. Liked both techniques. Funny story, I put my loader in a funk just the other day while installing a single point on my 2014 1025R. Challenging situation I got my self in trying to get the loader back on. Ended up getting the loader mounts jammed behind my front tires almost all the way down to the floor (if you can imagine that).. Of course, I had removed the bucket from the loader and left it outside before I removed the loader arms so I could work in a very tight stall on the single point install. Good thing I have a hoist right above me and a low profile floor jack. Of course I was alone..my lovely assistant was at her mothers house..LOL! Wish I had taken some pictures...Funny now, not so at the time. Thanks for sharing! Happy New Year!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Not a comfortable feeling is it!?! Don’t worry, it happens to all of us!

[@tinachambers4887]

HAPPY NEW YEAR FRIENDS ENJOYED THE SHOW HAVE A DAY LOVE FROM TEXAS

[@andrewburns5209]

Absolutely great 😁👍 video Tim always wanted to see how the backhoe attachment attached for your tractor s. Prayers for safety and guidance on your mission trip, and Happy New Year!

[@tomoaktree4951]

Hi Tim, Happy New Year to all of you! Great video demonstrating the Backhoe installation. I don't have a backhoe, but I still really enjoyed it.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Happy New Year, Tom!

[@alanmcgregor4909]

This makes me think about my modified a White Backhoe to attach to our International Industrial 250 Loader. With sub frame that was fabricated that also holds a weight bracket. The power beyond hoses are 3/4" flex ,with enough length to attach and detach.

[@jddriver9565]

I gotta say iam really excited about this video, i dont know why, as you know i already watch your channel for years now. but it makes me so happy so the all this green paint/little johnnys...thanks for all those great videos!:)

[@chrissymonds5376]

Thanks Tim, love your videos. Just buying 13 acres and looking for what I could use on my mini ranch

[@russorpcom]

Excellent video!

[@williamcoffman7149]

Tim, that was awsome to see, thanks for the tips and tricks...even thou im a 1025R owner, this was helpful, even learning about the hose extensions for the power beyond which im now planning on purchasing....Looking foward to your video on the johny being used beyond it's limits in the mission field....right now mine isnt get much use here in utah except for clearing the driveway and street...but plannin on that changing here in february when temps get about 50 degrees here.....On a personal note, folks need to go from social distancing to social connecting and helping one another, even in the body of Christ, thank you and your family for being a shining example unto others......

[@countryman5110]

Nice video enjoyed seeing some of the problems that could happen

[@beezie22dub]

And this is the exact reason to buy a John Deere, many more reasons. Smash the like button, comment and subscribe. Thanks Tim for yet another great video.

[@bj.roberts6410]

Hi tractor group Tim. Great information I’m a newbie sponge sucking in all this great tip on the hoses extension. Blessings to you on your mission trip. The Lord’s calling happens in so many ways.

[@jamesberg3106]

Slick solutions Tim. Good job Brother

[@johnmedlin5894]

That was funny, "you OCD types...." That's me for sure, I make sure I clean up all the spillage from my rear remotes and third function connections. Great video tutorial!

[@danielhowald8855]

Watching you from Washington Court House, Ohio Tim. Have a safe 2022.

[@thomasyerbey337]

Happy New Year Tim 🚜 I really appreciate you sharing this information on The backhoe Tim 🚜 I really enjoyed this video 🇺🇲

[@kevinallen8072]

Great information video. Thanks for sharing. God Bless

[@MrSparks701]

Good stuff. Thanks Tim

[@michaelgregory1013]

Great video! I have the same funk issue on my 270b. Put a new order in for the hoses…. Thank you!!

[@hardwareguy1]

Great video Tim. I would say, with everything perfect, the hookup on the Deere is easier than on my Kubota B3350, mainly because you don't have to remove the 3-point hitch. Mind you, it only takes about 1 minute to remove the 3-point as it is all just quick connect pins. However, the Kubota is easier to hook up in all other conditions. Even after the hydraulics leak down, it is super easy to connect. But, with my Kubota L4760, removing the 3-point is a pain in the butt. You have use 3 different wrenches, and undo bolts in hard to reach spots....I wish Kubota used same engineering from the B3350 on the L4760

[@woodruffwoods]

I have found when the right side does not line up on the 270B if I turn the adjustment on the right draft arm with a wrench it is an easy way to get the pin in. I think the issue arises from the draft arms not being perfectly level with each other. I like the idea of the hoses to use the hydraulics to fix the hydraulic sag. Great video on this topic!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Shoulda mentioned that. Need lift arms level.

[@woodruffwoods]

@@TractorTimewithTim it is hard to remember every talking point 😂

[@jdinnis]

Working in different industry I learned about hydraulic collars. Basically just a piece of thick wall pipe with the same ID as the OD of the hydraulic piston. One side of the piped was milled out to allow it to slide on over the piston. We used these as a safety any time a person had to work under a piece of equipment raised by a hydraulic cylinder. The collars went over the piston and made sure that if the hydraulics leak or collapse, no one got hurt. They had to be made in a variety of lengths to accommodate different positions of the hydraulics, but for this application you would only need one. Set the backhoe down. collar the pistons, and Bob's your uncle.

[@WTFarmGirl]

Ahaha! Mine did this too even AFTER I thought I had stabilized everything! Although, our John deere backhoe never gave me an issue ...no idea why but it sat happy as a clam off the tractor. My tym not so lucky! But might be because I had tym on a set of pallets 🤔

[@stephensouthcombe6439]

Just picked up my 270B on Saturday. My 3pt crossbar came welded all the way around on both sides.

[@Samandcocoa]

Omg, it's like you are psychic. My only wish is that you'd done it to mine; 260b. I'm having this exact problem right now. Just said I'll get back to it and the rain came in this week in southern Indiana. Now, I'll have a new perspective and go back to it. Thanks for the vids

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Those extension hoses will help.

[@marksleeper9385]

great vid and tips

[@randalmiddleton8068]

Don't have a backhoe, however your vid did others very well. Hopefully, maybe, by the time yas return... we'll have some decent snowfall to enjoy...Take care and be safe

[@leevandyke8524]

Happy new year.

[@bibleandbibs6407]

I pray your trip is successful and brings help to those in need and Glory to out Lord.

[@jparra4766]

Great ideas. Thanks.

[@ATR-42]

I don't own a Deere, or a backhoe, but I really enjoyed this video!

[@marclauzon1882]

Finally got a round 2 it ( showing the attachment sequence to us ) 👍👌🇺🇸💪 . Deer should use this video . Thanks

[@olechap2500]

Tim, when I first got my 3 series with backhoe, I would disconnect it like you with the bottom of the bucket level with the ground to be "perfect". I discovered that I could open the bucket all the way and still have the right angles to install the boom parking lock pin. Not sure if this would be the same on the 2 series. This does two things, prevents the bucket from relaxing, and the dipper stick from moving as the teeth are planted. Haven't had a funk since. I do occasionally have issue getting the pins installed when the 3 point is maxed and hitting the relief valve but the hoe isn't up enough. When that happens I keep the 3 point max up, pull the transport/park pin, and relax the boom hydraulic to trade some weight back to the ground. Works every time now.

[@ruslankadylak2999]

Also, you can reposition cylinders using your body weight. For example, if I want to rise unhooked backhoe on outrigs, I would lift it first with the front end loader, then I step on an outrig, and wiggle the control valve. Outrigs will sag under my weight. Then I use the loader to pin the backhoe's frame down. Now the bucket is up in the air, and can be manipulated in the same way. When the backhoe is too high, you can adjust its height under its own weight. Hope that helps somebody.

[@Shane_O.5158]

i like the backhoe extension kit, ( hose ) , i like how the JD Backhoe allows you to not remove the bottom 3point links, ( Kubota's must remove 3point links , and it means more mucking around ), but i'm a bit skeptical about the JD subframe , ( the Kubota subframe is more substantial, ) and JD tacking but not welding, ( some people have complained about Kubota welds as well ).

[@gd.producoes]

muito bom mesmo🔥🔥Parabéns🔥🔥

[@barelystablefarm7151]

I wish the 260B hooked up like this with the 3pt. The biggest challenge for me after hooking up the hyd hoses and adjusting the BH is lining up the bottom hooks as it requires backing into them. I have a hard time seeing them from the tractor seat, so it requires me to jump on/off a few times to have a look. Great video, thanks!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I focus on the top pins/holes. Easier to see. Get them lined up, and the bottom hooks will be great.

[@barelystablefarm7151]

@@TractorTimewithTim I'll try that! Also, a video exactly the same as this one for the 260B won't be unappreciated! Happy New Year!

[@miketavana3803]

This kit will be helpful with the 385a backhoe for the 3r. It has the same problem if you let it sit very long. These hoses will save a lot of frustration for reinstalls.

[@utubota5522]

My Kubota L2501 uses the 3/8" Pioneer coupler. I have flat face for my grapple, and wish I had Pioneer. I have struggled with the flat face coupler, even when I am sure the pressure is released. For about $100 you can get clamp to fasten the flat face couplers. I would rather spend the same money to replace the flat face with Pioneer. I have never had trouble with the Pioneer fittings, providing you relieve the pressure. It is correct that the flat face do not have "spillage," but I don't consider the trade off worth it. Also, I built a cart for my BH77, and used trailer jacks with wheels for the rear. That allows me to adjust the fore/aft angle to take the pressure off of the pins for easier removal. The factory videos are fine, but everything only works perfectly about 50% of the time.

[@stevefitch6621]

I have 2 Kubota L2501 and every implement I buy comes with the flat face couplers, I just replace them with the Pioneer style. I recently bought a post driver that has Flat Face but I broke down and made an adapter hose because I have a buddy with a skid steer and I'm sure he will want to use it.

[@ddacombe4752]

nice video. my 270b backhoe got in a funk in the garage when i first had it because the bucket relaxed. now i just block under the joint between the frame and the arm

[@d.a.ballou9740]

It doesn't matter to me the frequency of the videos, you post when you can and I'll watch them. Thanks.😁👨‍🚒

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks, D A!

[@GreyMassey]

Good tips.

[@BrickyardPowerMan]

Good video on how this Deere 270B BH and 2R tractor go together. From watching this video, I much prefer how my Kubota B2650 attaches/detaches from the BH77. You don't have an extended frame sticking out, do not require a 3 point bar and don't require a 2nd set of hydraulic hoses (more to store) to operate the BH. With a B2650/B3350/LX2610/LX3310, remove the 3pt pieces if they are installed, back the tractor up, connect the two stock hydraulic hoses, use the BH controls to tilt the BH back and onto the subframe. Reminds me of the mid-mount mowers where the JD is simply easier to attach vs a Kubota. In the situation of backhoes, it appears the Kubota is slightly easier to install/remove.

[@robertbunch8362]

This hose extension works well to mount and dismount the backhoes from the 1025r machines, too. Having the use of the boom, dipper, bucket and outriggers to position the backhoe helps tremendously for positioning it for setting on a storage/roller dolly and for mounting on the tractor. On the 1025r/260B combination, you have to get them so close together before connecting the hoses, and just like with this video, leakdowns can cause a deep phunk that is hard to correct. I made up a pair of 3ft long hoses to be able to position my 260B just right for backing into. Once it is mechanically hooked up, just remove those extensions and connect up per usual. A side benefit of having the extension set is that you are ready to connect up a flow test set like Ken used, too! Question, Tim: What is the purpose of extending the outriggers on that 270 backhoe for mounting/dismounting, except maybe for added stability/safety?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Right. Stability

[@patrickcraner2213]

I think there is another poor man's way as well, it's going to sound complicated, but let's start from where you used the loader to hold the subframe down to the ground. From this point could you connect the backhoe power beyond hoses together to complete the loop, then just hit the control lever for the main boom down (left stick forward) allowing gravity to lower the boom until ground contact. Then just disconnect the hoses and hookup. I do not own one to try but have run landscaping sized equipment professionally for 10 years, and personally own an older JD 2305. Hope it makes sense and you consider experimenting. As always great content, loyal viewer ( I think I have seen all your videos 👍)

[@jonasmaskiner2872]

Hey Tim 15:32 i don't have a tractor like that but the mini excavator I curl my bucket all the way back like when you have to dump the dirt, that way it won't leak internal at least if that helps :D

[@timraber6575]

I had always wondered how much trouble it is to take the backhoe off. It doesn’t look too hard after seeing several different approaches. I’m always thinking about pitch points. Practice makes the job look easy. And it is with practice.

[@dave.lawrence.3894]

Supper simple, to mount the backhoe, and unmount....

[@UtahUPman]

..Idea. Perhaps JD engineers can design their system allowing you to back all the way up to the hoe when it's bled off and connect hydo pwr when you are not at the garage, are in the middle of the field of nowhere, or are on soft ground and don't have the luxury if supplemental hose accessories laying around.There are better designs. To JD's credit, I love their concept of keeping 2 of the 3pts on the tractor concurrently with the hoe. As you know it's is a pain in the rear of the tractor to remove and attach. Even just a few times a month. Perhaps JD could take a page out of Kubota's connection system book and design around that? Thank you for the great video Tim. God bless.

[@aprilgeneric8027]

16:16. oh forgot about this, but you can also put a 2x4 that goes a bit past the underbelly pin arm on the hoe and rest it on the ground so long as the 2x4 is over 75º in angle and drive straight backthis causes the tractor tow plate to force the 2x4 down thus forcing the pin down to the ground meeting the minimum clearance. don't use a cheap piece of soft pine it tends to break or bow too much (depends how dry/wet it is)

[@Frank-pv1hp]

I've got an L3901 with the BH77 backhoe. It looks like the Deere backhoe install is much easier. I have to remove all the 3 point components. Then you back the tractor up to get the hoses connected and use the boom and stabilizers to raise and adjust until you can get the pins installed. Not terribly difficult, but more involved than the Deere for sure

[@andysworld2188]

My Kubota B2650 also uses BH77. I have gotten pretty proficient where i can remove the 3pt hitch and install the back hoe in about 5 minutes if everything goes great. If it's fighting me 10 minutes. The hardest part is backing up/lining up the tractor perfectly with the back hoe so everything else goes smoothly. But once its on it is extremely rigid and strong with how it mounts to the sub-frame. I think it's probably one of the stronger mounting systems I've seen so far.

[@daveknowshow]

that is how we hook up the BH on the Kubota. we just back up hook up the hydraulics and let it do the work.

[@madtater5948]

good video thanks for sharing I see two holes on the silver linkage bars just above the bucket could you slide a pin all the way through those holes to lock the bucket from drifting? looks like it would wedge up against the main frame of the backhoe at the bucket connection.maybe that's what those holes are for in the first place

[@curtwhite876]

Great video, I was thinking there shod be a way to connect hydraulics and use them to get out of the funk. Well done. Speaking of Ken's Bolt-on Hooks, I don't see grab hooks on the pretty orange LX 3310 bucket in the background...

[@ranger6x660]

Happy New Year guy’s!

[@argu4096]

TTWT on the bracket that goes from the bucket/piston to the back arm has a couple holes would putting a pin across hold the bucket from curling? I don't have a backhoe so just asking, would be an easy fix.

[@richardniswander6090]

John Deer can come up some real crazy things. In general I like John Deer. The smaller equipment seems to use after thought engineering.

[@mkc0005]

Be safe on your Mission!

[@jackanderson8404]

Sometimes it is easier than others. I have been in both situations.

[@dangerrangerlstc]

15:44, wonder if you could use the snap on stop collars on the bucket cylinder to keep it from leaking down. Or cut a piece of angle iron just the right length and hold it in place with a pin or hose clamp. Kind of like transport locks on bigger implements

[@erice9536]

The 260B drove me nuts, always avoided changing it out if I could. Went with the BXpanded dolly, works perfect! Guess they don't make one for the 2 series.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

As you can see, dolly would be difficult for 270b. I have no issue with 260b. Hook up the hoses and then move it as needed.

[@DS-pl5hi]

I also like the BXPanded dolly for the 260b. It would be nice to be able to use a moveable cart the 270b.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Would be difficult. Notice that the subframe must stay on or very near the ground.

[@rcguymike]

370B is super simple. No matter the position you can back in close enough to hook up the power beyond and then it's cake after that. It swings down onto 2 big hooks and then pivots up into the top hole mounts👍.

[@chrissheathewoodguy]

interesting, our larger tractor has a big sub frame that goes about to the clutch housing. you have to back over and hook up the lines and use the out riggers and boom to get it lined up can be a pain. that looks much easier.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

This one works fine. Great, actually, once you get used to it.

[@DesMck36]

On my 1025r I always wiggle the bucket stick around to relieve hydraulic pressure before taking the rear backhoe lines off.

[@hoyks1]

You could try a long 1/2" safety pin (bolt) through those holes in the silver side plates on the bucket linkage. It could sag a bit, but then the pin would hit the arm and it won't settle any more. Down side would be a bent pin would be a pain to get out though. A bunch of REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT flags might be also needed ;-)

[@jeffreycurrie3410]

My take away it’s a bit of a troubleshooting or problem solving tip. The by the book protocols don’t always seem effective, especially when things go awry. A lead on hoses, a great tip

[@DS-pl5hi]

Hi Tim, have you thought about a move able cart like the 260b?

[@boomerau]

building a frame that it sits in so the bucket is curled up - does take the fun out it though.