Backing it in - A Demonstration

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@racervee9529
@racervee9529 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry mate, but I'm going to have to go try this. I'll let you know how it goes...
@racervee9529
@racervee9529 9 жыл бұрын
Racer V P.S. If I don't make it, tell my wife and kids I love them... Also, thanks for making this video!
@phantomgamingstore
@phantomgamingstore 9 жыл бұрын
+Racer V Im guessing you haven't made it. No update from you :( RIP
@racervee9529
@racervee9529 9 жыл бұрын
Jeff Ng LOL I'm still alive. I just haven't had the grip and handlebar setup to get my helmet down. I think I'll have to take my bike down to SoCal so I can find some sweet high-camber curves!
@dr.doeslittle4957
@dr.doeslittle4957 7 жыл бұрын
Whay about now? R.I.P.?
@akupehsluarketatAR
@akupehsluarketatAR 7 жыл бұрын
its 2 years now since you made your comment. Still no update? Bet all thats left of you is your name
@mva8082
@mva8082 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the perfect sequence for a crash I will do it
@therealdealoneill
@therealdealoneill 4 ай бұрын
howd it go fam
@maxcastle614
@maxcastle614 7 жыл бұрын
I learned this by accident. The best way to learn.
@MissMelica
@MissMelica 8 жыл бұрын
I have started to practice this on my supermoto :D!
@MissMelica
@MissMelica 8 жыл бұрын
You think? :P Send me a DM on instagram :D Bikeboobs and I will show you before I show everyone else ;) VIP treatment :P
@MissMelica
@MissMelica 8 жыл бұрын
+Timon Küng engine brake 👌
@schenebod
@schenebod 7 жыл бұрын
nope thats not how its done .....will make you crash or slow and ruin your tyre
@davefellows
@davefellows 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, using the rear brake achieves the same thing. On 2 stroke bikes for example, you have jack all engine braking so the rear brake is more important for trail braking (and backing it in if you so desire).
@alex.m.h5164
@alex.m.h5164 5 жыл бұрын
So after your clear instructions to perform this maneuver on public streets as a novice rider I crashed and I think you guys owe me the money to fix my bike.
@alexs1972
@alexs1972 7 жыл бұрын
Right, buyin Harley and tryin this tomorrow then
@timnikeee3542
@timnikeee3542 7 жыл бұрын
Get it into the lowa geeer
@ridingwithjon3048
@ridingwithjon3048 5 жыл бұрын
Great, now I know how to truly MC Commute.
@jamesclark6949
@jamesclark6949 Жыл бұрын
Backing it in and high siding have identical instructions
@irobuppsis
@irobuppsis 9 жыл бұрын
Do not try to forcefully do this - let it come natural instead. As you learn to brake later it happens by itself and that's how to do it. The fork compress harder and you can angle out when you release and go on gas at the same time (compress the damper/swing). It's a normal MX V-turn taken to the paved road.
@nickolaswinter2975
@nickolaswinter2975 4 жыл бұрын
so, brake hard (back end light) shift down through the gears (lower gear helps lock up the back) lean on the inside bar, which puts you in the controlled slide, and control the slide with the clutch/throttle.......................
@Lancaster604
@Lancaster604 8 жыл бұрын
Feels like this sort of maneuver would really chew up the clutch. Modulating the clutch at high speed to control power to the wheel at that speed seems.....
@AquaLoki
@AquaLoki 7 жыл бұрын
You think people who do this own the bikes they ride? lol
@Ted335i
@Ted335i 7 жыл бұрын
Brian LO The clutch doesn't actually get much use doing this. I've done this off-roading on scramblers. The rear brake locks the rear wheel, if you steer the bike left then the rear will slide right while it's skidding. If you let off the rear brake then the wheel grips and so long as you were only a little bit out of line then it's easy to carry on. If you were a lot out of line then it can jerk back into line, worst case is a high side. On dirt the jerk back into line is gentler because there's less grip. It's so much harder to learn stuff like this using high grip tarmac and high grip tyres. If you want to learn sliding, backing it in, front wheel slides etc then I found off-roading to be easiest, slowest and less hurtful when falling off!
@schenebod
@schenebod 7 жыл бұрын
than you are doing it wrong, the rear brake is not allowed to lock the rear wheel, its just for slowing it down to have the right rear wheel speed for the gear you are in at the exit of the corner! the engine braking is the thing what makes you slide , best way to do it is to bang down the gears really fast and start releasing the clutch at high revs and as you release the clutch break hard and you will feel how your back wants to go sideways and with steering and body weight but still on the front brake you can control the direction, cause its faster spinning than your front wheel.....timing is the key and no fear of letting go the clutch at high revs .......and i wouldn't recommend to do this without an anti hopping clutch ,cause your rear wheel won't slide it will start to lock if you release the clutch and thats gonna end in a crash for sure
@caseydoan334
@caseydoan334 7 жыл бұрын
@ted335i you're doing it wrong^
@akshayrathore2882
@akshayrathore2882 4 жыл бұрын
You want to take those clutch to heaven with you? Ride hard and slap new ones when those bitches burnout. Slipper clutch doesnt burnout easily anyway
@EZ4U2Say11
@EZ4U2Say11 7 ай бұрын
Schralping?
@MrBCRC
@MrBCRC Ай бұрын
The modern slipper clutch on many bikes has largely put an end to this.
@johndaroza8312
@johndaroza8312 2 жыл бұрын
This is not the only way to do it. Every rider has there ways of of upseting the bike so it slides. You can be on the breaks hard front and back and down shift to a low gear upseting the bike and getting both front and rear to slide then hard on the gas out of the turn because it is a drag race to the next corner to start the proess again. The key is your breaking any one can gas on but not many can break hard.
@viveremilitareest9281
@viveremilitareest9281 6 жыл бұрын
It truly does look badass
@perpetuated
@perpetuated 9 жыл бұрын
beautiful! great video thanks!
@romitmankame8548
@romitmankame8548 9 жыл бұрын
Doesn't this version of the R6 has gotta a slipper clutch? How can one back it in on a slipper clutch assisted motorcycle?
@thepeacedisturber
@thepeacedisturber 9 жыл бұрын
+Romit Mankame You're right newer bikes (approx 2006
@thepeacedisturber
@thepeacedisturber 9 жыл бұрын
+Joe Bloggs I was also talking a one of the pro riders at a track day, they mentioned that a lot of this stuff (backing it in, powersliding etc.) has a lot to do with ECU, not really too sure what he meant by that, but he had a race team/crew with him so probably trade secretes he isn't going to share with the general public haha
@romitmankame8548
@romitmankame8548 9 жыл бұрын
+Joe Bloggs thanks a lot
@d1sturb3d119
@d1sturb3d119 9 жыл бұрын
+Joe Bloggs Nothing to do with the ECU. You can back any bike into a corner. Your first explanation is spot on. Hard on thebrakes, the back get's lighter and downshifting will cause the rear to slide. Review any supermoto video. Its the same concept. Once you're comfortable with how the bike feels when it's sliding it's easy to do it. The key is not to force it. Let speed dictate how the bike reacts. Typically if you're backing it into every corner you're over riding the bike, beyond the level of traction.
@Ted335i
@Ted335i 7 жыл бұрын
Romit Mankame The hard part about backing it in isn't the initial slide. That's just looking the rear wheel and steering the front normally, the rear slides opposite to steering direction. The hard part is you're leaning over entering a corner, the rear is sliding out of line with the front, so you need to align the wheels and let the rear wheel grip without high siding. You can try rear wheel sliding and steering while upright. Just lock the back brake into a skid and steer a bit left or right and the rear will go in the other direction. This is much easier off-road. Speeds are lower, grip is easier to control, ground is softer to land on 😀
@krayzieegg7294
@krayzieegg7294 5 жыл бұрын
What model is that rst suit?
@shonz88
@shonz88 9 жыл бұрын
What year r6 was used in the video?
@barz91
@barz91 7 жыл бұрын
The 10 dislikes are from people who tried this on road haha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@laprepper
@laprepper 2 жыл бұрын
I did it once accidentally and it came back into line perfectly without jerking but I know this maneuver has a tendency to throw riders from their bikes! I need to do a track weekend 😢
@Indarow
@Indarow 10 жыл бұрын
I've done it on accident... Nooooot recommend... Ended up working out okay, but gonna hold off on trying it for real till I get more experience.
@jessstuart7495
@jessstuart7495 7 жыл бұрын
Is there any advantage for doing this on asphalt? Or is it just for show?
@akupehsluarketatAR
@akupehsluarketatAR 7 жыл бұрын
the only advantage are for the cops to earn some cash from you charging you in court for reckless riding
@stevieman38
@stevieman38 7 жыл бұрын
It helps wash a little more speed off if you feel your going in a little too quickly and also helps to put adjust your line if you feel your missing the apex and vice versa. Also if your up the inside of some it slows them up a little and makes for a more successful block pass
@jasoncox4234
@jasoncox4234 5 жыл бұрын
If done right you can keep a bit more speed while keeping tighter lines in the curves. I use this on a smaller cc bike to kill the larger bikes on mountain roads with good bank. Even if I get taken in a straight, I can eat up the loss in the turns. There are times I will have to knock 2 or 3 gears down to execute a perfect back in and drift, but it dose allow me to pass other bikes on the outside and even get a win on a race. But one wrong move or bad read on road ahead will cause you to loose control. Execute such moves only after you gain experience. Keep the tires down. Stay safe.
@XenoX101
@XenoX101 4 жыл бұрын
Great except for when you tell people not to try it. Parking lots, race tracks, empty roads, all perfect, relatively safe opportunities to try this maneuver. That is after all what motorcycles are about isn't it? Learning all the ins and outs of riding.
@rattletop
@rattletop 7 жыл бұрын
Could someone translate it into Engiish for me?
@Wakasman69
@Wakasman69 5 жыл бұрын
You mean to mistake English (US)?
@dhess34
@dhess34 Жыл бұрын
Did this by accident. Fun, and scary!
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 4 ай бұрын
Trust me, following his accent is harder than backing it in.
@rcgamers5536
@rcgamers5536 7 жыл бұрын
is this possible with slipper clutch ?
@rcgamers5536
@rcgamers5536 7 жыл бұрын
awesome. thx for the info
@Runyamouth
@Runyamouth 10 жыл бұрын
That just goes to show how hard Marquez rides compared to the rest. Later than the rest on brakes and gear shifts
@Jajeweet
@Jajeweet 8 жыл бұрын
You should see sam lowes man
@bloggs692413
@bloggs692413 6 жыл бұрын
Im trying this next time im out on the bike.....
@marcobatista999
@marcobatista999 6 жыл бұрын
i've burned the cluth on my supermoto doing this xD it was alredy a bit sliperry and worn out but yeah, lasted some 4000km before giving up on life xD
@FPVdronesIndia
@FPVdronesIndia 7 жыл бұрын
It works for me and I do it very often you just need to make sure that you have enough speed and braking distance that would be required to negotiate that corner.
@jasongaudin6748
@jasongaudin6748 Жыл бұрын
I've been doing this before this video and my baker mates cannot do it lol they think I'm mental I'm on a cbr250rr there on 500cc to 600cc to 1000cc and I keep up with them 😂 😅 they all ate ice creams to day and I said are u all happy after the wee sugar 😂 🎉
@pekonipappa9292
@pekonipappa9292 6 жыл бұрын
dat accent m8
@jenpsakiscousin4589
@jenpsakiscousin4589 6 жыл бұрын
Sliding it out is more fun
@PoolsideSeries
@PoolsideSeries 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I do this while commuting to work.
@brucegonsalves7348
@brucegonsalves7348 5 жыл бұрын
If u want to learn how to back a bike in on a track grit get a. Dirt bike and get it right on the dirt have fun and get some airtime while you’re there
@BoyzNAcne
@BoyzNAcne 7 жыл бұрын
BAD ASS
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that this vid was about backing a motorcycle into a parking space. Title could have been more specific!
@Charlieswag9000
@Charlieswag9000 7 жыл бұрын
why not just downshift correctly?
@wuzihuzi
@wuzihuzi 7 жыл бұрын
Charlieswag9000 not as fast I guess?
@thomrichards5186
@thomrichards5186 7 жыл бұрын
Charlieswag9000 the whole point is to get the turn in tighter. This is the best way to slide and and get the bike on a straighter line
@rchydrozz751
@rchydrozz751 2 жыл бұрын
Its not any faster then hard braking and then under power. Just making something more complicated then it really is.
@vantatilfly
@vantatilfly 7 жыл бұрын
It's gonna burn tires
@adamutuber
@adamutuber 6 жыл бұрын
Pft, only in the middle.... tyres lose complete grip on the edges before the middle is even 50% used.
@rubenalsaker2327
@rubenalsaker2327 Ай бұрын
Instructions unclear. Wrecked my bike
@shawnmclean7932
@shawnmclean7932 2 жыл бұрын
You tawk funny.
@1sickkidd9
@1sickkidd9 9 жыл бұрын
Buy a supermoto. Have fun training. lol
@billmackey8388
@billmackey8388 5 жыл бұрын
Would'a been nice to have gotten an English speaker to explain it. For us Yanks at least. I only got about half the words. All I understood was hard on the front brake.
@mattk9438
@mattk9438 5 жыл бұрын
I'll give it a shot explaining. Supermoto guys do it all the time (I'm just a learner ninja 300 rider with more skills than the guys in town on their street triples and gsxr's) They call the technique "backing it in" Try the technique in a straight line first. All it is, is really aggressive engine braking combined with light (like, light as fuck) rear braking and enough front brake (or not) to get that back wheel to lose grip. THE BACK WHEEL NEVER LOCKS UP. NEVER! mmmkay? So, go 65km/h or 40mph, then clutch in, to idle. Go down enough gears that the wheel speed doesnt match the engine speed In my Ninja 300... that's literally 1st gear. DO NOT REV MATCH THE GEAR YOU CHOOSE. If you have a slipper clutch... just let it out and at the same time, use a little bit of rear brake and some front brake. You'll feel the back tyre scrambling for grip as the engine tries it's best to slow the bike down. Slipper clutches make it easy. Otherwise you have to balance the clutch between either no tyre slip (because you dont have the clutch released enough, barely biting the flywheel) or the tyre skipping the ground (because the clutch is near fully released) It's literally using the wrong gear to make the rear wheel lose grip. The chance of you over revving the engine is minimal as long as you aren't applying any power or rev matching.
@tinutifriulano4576
@tinutifriulano4576 6 жыл бұрын
real bad body position...this is an “expert”?
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