Backpacking Gear on a Budget - What to Prioritize?

[@BackcountryExposure]

Other great budget options are Sierra Trading Post. Got my wife a pair of nice Smartwool socks for $9, where at REI they were $19, same sock. Ross, Marshals, TJ Max also have random outerwear stashed in their stores that is priced really well. Take advantage of outlet stores on the big sale holidays like Memorial day and Labor day. I got a fleece jacket for my daughter on Labor day that was retail $35, after all the sale discounts it was $7. One of the easier cook set items is to use a tupperware with lid as your bowl. Makes for easy clean up, lightweight and chances are you've already got it in your kitchen just sitting there. Obviously don't put that on a stove, duh! You're gear doesn't have to be fancy, just needs to do the job. Some of my favorite gear i've seen people use on the trail was DIY gear.

[@quietrevelry]

Check your thrift stores too. The synthetic athletic wear is starting to show up there.

[@eoghandonnelly4413]

Ask for the expensive gear for your birthday

[@oppressive1770]

I recently got into hiking and backpacking. I have been looking for a video like this plus the viewer comments are on point. Keep up the good work.

[@sintax77]

+Junius Carter Thanks, Junius. There's definitely some good info here in the viewer comments for sure.

[@bronxtail1]

You over compacted & over budget it for a first timer. Backpacking / Camping keep it simple, easy, & inexpensive. Pack: 50 litter big enough for most everything, wide price range can be found fairly inexpensive. Tent: can be found at local “Big Box Retailers” on sale. A $30-$50 tent works just as well as a $150 tent for beginners. I’ve used mine for around 20 years on & off. Sleeping Bag: Same, a 3 season bag works well. Water: Filter good idea & carry a bottle or two Stove & Food: Trail mix, package food, Pocket Rocket, mess kit Cloths: For a beginner just what you have…. Try it out before even think about extra stuff. Check weather before heading out. More important to get started try it out than over thinking it.

[@biggiefrye45]

Randy Dodd I agree, I got my one person hiking tent from walmart for $30.. its a little heavy has worked on many trips and gets the job done For any beginner I would recommend to start there and upgrade later.

[@avatargunner6776]

hey I'm lovin the videos . I'm not sure if anybody else brought this up but something to remember is the size of your backpack the size of your tent and the size of your bedroll you need to make sure it all fits in your pack you don't want to buy a tent and it sticks out of the top of your pack. great videos keep them up.

[@sintax77]

I'm glad you brought this up - it definitely wouldn't be very much fun to start packing up and realize that your Big 3 are completely incompatible! :o

[@TieWolf]

Jared if you read this: You can get some used Military sleeping bags for as little as $10 on ebay that are rated for down to 30F. Personally, since I want to get into tarp camping once I get more comfortable with my skill set, so I bought a Snugpak sleeping bag that has a bug net attached to it, though I paid about $70 if I remember right. As for backpacks, if you do end up being frugal and are going to be hiking lightweight, get a cheap backpack from walmart; doesn't even have to be the hiking/internal frame packs. I use a pack from walmart that I paid about $45 that is a "Fieldline Tactical" bag which replaces a $60 pack that had an internal frame in that I bought from walmart and didn't like so much. I chose organization and a little extra weight (in materials) over the super large internal frame pack (I think it was an Outdoors brand). I guess my point here is that, if you are going to be packing light, you don't have to look far for something to do the job. :) Walmart also has some cheap pack covers... I want to say $15, but I could be off on that one; it's been a while. It's a bit of a bummer that you are asking now for cheap stuff, but during the winter months, summer backpacking gear is SO cheap and marked down; especially around Christmas, which is right before the new year which is also before merchants get their new gear in for the new year. I got an awesome 2-person The North Face Flint tent for $90 (Original price is $170). I was so impressed with the tent and deal that I bought a second one for my hiking partner as a gift. As for other tents, it depends if you are going to be picky about your comfort. You can buy some super cheap tents for about $30, BUT they do not have a rain fly, these tents are single layer tents, so condensation builds up overnight and it be best that you waterproof them yourself just in case the weather is quick to change where you go packing. As for sleeping pads, you can pack with you an industrial garbage bag, and when you get to camp, pile up a bunch of leaves inside it. Then just place it under where your tent would be, and you have an inexpensive and lightweight "sleeping pad". Everything else that Sintax77 said was pretty dead on and a great video :)

[@martinsvendsen8983]

(sorry about the lenght, but theres alot of tips here, me and two buds go hiking alot, i carry the biggest pack and therefor i carry most of the weight like the tent, so there might be alot of great tips here.) Hello! I'm 15 and from Norway, i go camping around in all seasons so i believe i got a small clue how to backpack, i would recommend asking your father or someone who has been in the military to loan or get their boots, i always use my stephfathers military boots (M-77) they are shoes that you need to threat with this fat (KIWI Shoe polish) or something like that, they are 26years old and works just like if they were new, asking family for gear is free ;) The pack i use is a 125L backpack from the Norwegian military, its large, but in the winter its good to have some extra space and when you're skiing (atleast for me) you don't get tired that fast especially if you got a sled to put your gear on. The sleeping system that i use when i'm camping in a tent i use a +6C (42.8F i believe) sleeping bag in weather down to -4C (35.8F still on thin ice about this Fahrenheit thing) and i sleep with my clothes on and i'd rather but an extra layer than buy a bigger sleeping bag. My knife is a Helle Jegermester, personally mine is destroyed since i use it for everything my experience is that handmade knifes are often better, but they might be expensive. Just a few tip that works for me (4-sesion) -Trashbag inside of pack to improve waterproff(nes) -Surplus stores are great, they sell military tested stuff for a buck or two (probably more :P) -Take 3-4 diffrent tools to make fire, mine is Flint & Steel, Zippo Lighter (got free from family) and matches -Train your legs, go jogging a few times a week, it really helps if your going to carry more stuff -Don't buy first aid kits, if you find a cheap small one, sure go ahead, make your own. (This few things are needed if you want to slim it down) -Basic knowledge of how to make a fire. -Basic and if you can take a course how to navigate that would be an extrem benifit on a trip so you don't walk 4extra km (about 2+miles again thin ice here) Extra luxery that makes the trip a little more comfy -GPS, again if you know the map and compass don't bring it -Gas Stove (Works in -6C / 35.2F) from then the gas wont work properly, thats why alot of hikers walk with the gas canistern in their jacket and sleep with it in their sleeping bag. -An axe, my knife is a medium / large size knife so i use it for everything (Sometimes even eating with it) -Fork, Spoon, Spork, cup, plate (If its made of paper bring it home before throwing it away)

[@sintax77]

Martin Svendsen Great tips. Thank you for taking the time to share this.

[@martinsvendsen8983]

You're welcome sintax77 and other hiking interested people, btw you should try to bushcraft some items it might be something that interest you ;)

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

Those are good tips, but that's a lot of extra stuff (and a lot of extra pack) that most hikers in the U.S. aren't really going to need. That being said, I believe there's a website out of Sweden that has military surplus and ships anything for under $10 to the U.S.

[@rkymtnhootowl7873]

I shop only at name brand store, ARC Thrift! I have found all the items you mentioned under "Shoes, and 3 C's" for under $50 total. The only problem, is that they don't always have everything in "stock." which means you will have to do some hunting, some call it shopping, but that is part of the excitement when you score a real good find for a couple of dollars. I have a pair of Kevlar reinforced boots that I got for a couple of dollars in my size. They have all kinds of synthetic clothing, in particular sports clothes. Still looking for some shorts with the zip-off legs in my size, XXXL, Not to many hikers my size. Ha! Anyway I got a tent, pots for cooking, a nice carbon knife, hiking poles, and a school book backpack. My High Sierra mummy bag cost $7.00. Beyond that, I have found many other things that I can use, even a SVEA 23 stove, and snowshoes! The only things I hesitate to buy there is the water filter and water bottles cause you want to be sure that they are clean when you start, which also includes underwear for the same reason! Here is one thing to consider as well, most of those stores will allow you to volunteer in the store, in exchange for merchandise, so then you don't spend anything! Well other than your time, which can still be a good learning experience.

[@TheAustralianMade]

That's one benefit to living in Perth, Australia. A 32F/0C sleeping sleeping bag will do all year including winter. The coldest overnight temperature I've ever camped in was 36F/2C in the middle of winter. Wearing thermals inside the sleeping bag and I'm warm as toast.

[@michiganbackpacker5794]

Great advice all around Sintax, thanks for the vid and a great starting point. -Shoes/boot - you can find entry level ones for around $50. -Tent - pup tent $30-$50, buy some waterproof spray and go to town on it. -Bag - $50 or under synthetic 30-40 degree bag -Pad - $10 foam roll up pad -Pack - Check out Outdoor Products they have cheap pack that will get you started for like $20-$50. Not great ones but they will carry your gear -Rain gear - $2 poncho -Clothes - check all your local thrift stores

[@LoHairyLee]

For a cheap entry level hammock setup keep an eye on woot.com, particularly the sport and sellout pages. I routinely see Yukon Outfitters double hammocks and diamond rainflys for $20-30. Then grab a couple of military surplus poncho liners and you'll have hammock, fly, underquilt and topquilt combo that can comfortably go into the 40°F range. Supplement with space blankets to limit radiant heat loss and you can get down to the 20°F range. It's not the lightest option, maybe 7 pounds for that, but for under $100 you can knock out 2 of the big 3 and be comfortable for 3 seasons.

[@jeffpohlman1387]

Great video. I find you videos very informative. I like that you actually show the camp set up in the hiking videos. A lot of people skip that. I'm so cheep its pathetic. I go to garage sales, Military surplus and thrift stores looking for stuff. I have found good quality synthetic blend shirts/shorts etc for a couple of dollars each, I bought a couple of "survival"knives at garage sales. Not the best quality but they work. I sharpened them with a wet stone and have been great. $5 vs $50, save the money for the footwear. That's an area I don't scrimp in. I have bad foot problems from scrimping there in past. Also, I made my own penny stove out of pop cans, several you tube videos on it, easy to make and works as good as the Trangia. I use an old stainless steel pot for cooking, Goodwill for $3. Another option I use is the Swedish torch (also called a Swedish stove or candle) for making a fire. You Tube it, there are some cool videos on it. For sleeping I have a cheep Walmart sleeping bag maybe $20. I have used the tarp method and some branches and paracord to prop it up. I have a $5 bug net. Personally I like minimalist hiking, makes it more challenging.

[@leahmarrie0618]

Decent pair Columbia hiking shoes around $60, if you have to go cheap. Get your backpack at Walmart. Get your sleeping bag at Walmart, like a Coleman. Army foam mat with reflective barrier is $20 online. If you order from Amazon, look up Cree flashlight, they are cheaper as add on items, like $4. Wool hiking socks are easy to find and can be found cheap. Clothing can be found cheap. Guide gear at gander mountain is cheaper than name brand. Walmart.com has bear grylls clothing dirt cheap sometimes, and yes his clothing is good. Magellan makes cheaper clothes too. Several brands of hammock on Amazon that are similar to ENO hammock, $50 or so. Or get a $30 Walmart tent and deal with the condensation

[@samparker9511]

I just scored a dirty Ketley Tioga 90L at Goodwill for $6. All the zippers work and no holes. The previous owner left the adjustment instructions inside, but I found then online as well. Looking forward to spring!

[@ilyPenn23]

Thanks for the tips man. Just went on my first 3 day/2 night backpacking trip (Pico Blanco, Big Sur) and had a great time. I was with three others - two are well seasoned backpackers, so there was some communal stuff, but I still brought most of my own gear: Pack: Osprey Talon 44 ($100) Sleeping: Suisse Sport Adventurer ($35) Sleeping pad: 3/8th inch foam pad ($11) Tent: Kelty Salida 2 ($100) Water: Sawyer Mini ($20) Shoes: Nike Trailrunners (already owned) And the rest of the stuff: -First aid ($10 - already had the important stuff like gauze, antiseptic wipes, small/big bandages, ibuprofen, epipen/antihistamine, neosporin etc, but I bought some Tecnu because I'm allergic to poison oak). -Pack liner (free, used trash bag) -Water bottle (free, used an old SMART water bottle + the Sawyer Mini bladder) -Utensils (free, fast food plastic fork+spoon) -Energizer headlamp ($10, Super Walmart) -Compass ($7, Super Walmart) -Multitool/Gerber Paraframe Knife (already owned) -Clothing (free, brought a Uniqlo Waterproof Parka) -Stove (used my friend's, but we ate no-cook for lunch/one night) Overall, around $300 for everything.

[@briargoatkilla]

Awesome info. You're right about ultra light not being expensive. Here's what I'm using now that it is warm out: medium ALICE pack with diy pvc frame - $40, MMSS jungle bag, sub 2 lbs - $20 used (surplus) . 6x8 "medium duty" poly tarp, 1lb with cordage (mason's twine) - $10. Therma Rest Ridge Rest Solite cut down to torso length - $50. Soda can stove and 8 oz of denatured in a plastic flask, 11 oz, - $10. Footwear? any light weight pair of sneakers you have...just get some good insoles. I'm sub 20 lbs with 3 days food and fuel. I use a sawyer mini and a GI canteen and cup. My base weight is well in to ultra light territory and my whole setup is WAY under 200 bucks.

[@DaNewfNL]

The Grand Trunk Ultralight hammock can be had on amazon for around $20 (maybe less) and a cheap polyethylene tarp can be used for overhead protection. I did an overnighter last year using a 9x12 poly tarp I paid $5 for (on sale) at Canadian Tire pitched over my hammock. The tarp wouldn't stand up to long term use in harsh conditions but its fine for occasional use in moderate weather.

[@sintax77]

Very cool budget setup. Checking out the Grand Trunk right now - $18.50 and weighs 12oz! :D

[@VariableReciprocity]

Great point to bring up just using a tarp and trekking poles. I have done that for years. If you don't want to pull the trigger on a tent try picking up a used Army Gore Tex bivy. They go from $35 on up at surplus stores. Amazon currently has them for $45 with shipping. I used a bivy for over ten years in the Army. Put your pad inside the bivy with your bag and you have a complete shelter/sleep system.

[@howlerwolf90]

So I'm not your everyday backpacker, but I do a lot of outdoors things, hunting, fishing camping, etc. As far as shelter and sleeping bag go, I bought the army surplus sleep system, rated at -30, but It's 3 parts, plus the stuff sack, so you can pick and choose. It was $100 at my local surplus store, and the bivy cover serves as a shelter for me. I can tell you it works well, two years ago I awoke in the morning (very warm) frozen to the top of the ambulance I was on. It was so good as an issue item, that I went and bought it. No need for a tent unless there are multiple people going and you want to split weight. Just my 2 cents. Also, this is the BDU camo. A lot of the guys I served with were given the ACU camo and said it didn't work as well as mine did. It is pretty heavy altogether.

[@jffmac1]

Go to somewhere like REI and let them fit you for a pack. You don't have to buy from them, but important to get a accurate torso length so you know what size pack to buy.

[@bishop169]

I know i'm late to the game on this vid. but i will give you my starter gear on a budget.. shoes: you can go affordable but not cheap or you can check out mil surplus also online don't go crazy just make sure they fit snug have good support and waterproof. when i was a teen a picked up army surplus gortex jungle boots and added insole pads for under $20.lasted well into my 20's.. pack: walmart has some cheaper starter packs in the 40l with stiff foam frame for $30 but make sure its comfortable new hiker i wouldn't stress framed or not my worry would be comfort wide straps with good airflow.. also mil surplus can have some good deals on old army packs but they tend to be heavy.. craigslist and flea markets sometimes have old hiking bags dirt cheap... shelter: you can go with a bivy or even a tarp bivy you can find DIY tarp bivy set ups on youtube but i would rather check out off brand stores aka "junk" stores sometimes you can find discontinued tents dirt cheap... I picked up a 2 person no name bivy tent for under $20. weights in around 3lbs has one pole to deal with and 4 stakes. rolls up smaller then my sleep bag. sleeping: i think this kind of goes with your shelter. for that bivy you can sacrifice an old egg crate mattress pad and bungees it up small to carry or you can by a cheap bed roll pad for under $10. Junk store with off brands and older stuff at low prices i gor a 30 degree bag for $15 at oceanstatejoblots.. I know it wont last forever but it will be good for a few seasons. another old school option are wool blankets if you got hook ups you can even get a couple of FEMA wool blankets for next to nothing.. with that said i had a friend who had a mummy bag and a bee keepers hood and would sleep on a pile of leaves every hike two birds one stone i guess it really comes down to comfort.. start with long day hikes and think to yourself what would i need to spend the night out here.. try a few "safe" nights out close to car or home.. not viewing distance but far enough that you would be ok at 2 am walking to your car.

[@ChadWesselman]

Thanks for the video. I am trying to be frugal as I get into backpacking this year. Here is what I have found. 2P tent - $20, 40 degree mummy bag - $40 WalMart, foam sleeping pad - $15 WalMart, Columbia trail runners - $28 on clearance with coupon at shoe store, 55L High Sierra backpack - $90 Gander Mountain half off sale. It still adds up even when you buy the cheap stuff. Birthday and Christmas are times to ask for gear!

[@MalcolmChandler]

Another option I was just waiting to hear but sadly didn't was Goodwill or other thrift stores. Check your local stores for synthetic clothing, shoes, and other things like bags and cookware. Last time I went to Goodwill I found myself a little two cup stainless steel pan with folding handles and a self inflating REI Sit-Pad for $2 each, and as far as I could tell the pad has never actually been used, works great and would have cost $20 new. Today I actually found a Northern Designs two person tent in some woods, it had been buried in leaves and some dirt but all the parts were there including 4 aluminum tent poles, bag and all the covers. It's dirty but a little scrubbing with some water and I have myself a free tent that was originally worth at least $200. Keeping your eyes open in and out of stores can really get you some amazing deals.

[@RS.Outdoors]

Would recommend looking at boot reviews on the net and make a shortlist of the ones you would like to try. Head over to a store or place that stocks them so you can try them out in your size to see if they are any good. Have tried on loads myself that you would assume are going to be great and are actually really poor and uncomfortable. Once you have a pair that fit good and you like head off home and search the net for discounts or keep an eye on Fleabay. Got a pair of boots that way from person on the Bay that had only done one hike and they were still as new. Got them with basically 75% off what they would have been in the shop. You can get lots of items like this from clothes, tents and stoves. Lots of people try the outdoor scene and spend a fortune only to find they don't like it. This means there are lots of bargains to be had if you look.

[@wyrmdragn]

Great video Sintax, a thought on a flashlight for Jared, I snagged a small LED handheld ligh from Lowes in one of those island tubs near the registers, runs on 3 AAA batteries with 9 small bulbs. Fits nice into a pocket or a small pouch in your pack. It cost maybe $2-$3 there, I use them for hiking and work. 1.6 ounces without batteries and 2.8 with batteries. No need to get a really big flashlight, just adds weight. Hope this helps some Jared!

[@jaredablah4510]

Thank you! It did!

[@rbjolly]

If I were just starting out, I'd look on Amazon for the Texsport Camouflage Trail Tent (3.5 lbs, less than $30, you'll need a tube of seam sealer as well), on ebay for a Kelty external frame pack (some good for under $50), and on Amazon for Kelty Cosmic 35 Degree Synthetic Sleeping Bag (2.6 lbs, less than $90). So for about $180 you can have some pretty nice gear for the big 3 items. For the rest of the gear, I'd look mostly to Walmart, ebay, and Amazon. At this point, you don't need the best gear, just stuff that will work and get you on the trail.

[@kristenhedrick9765]

I have a knock off PocketRocket stove set up and I love it. I also use a kitchen sized (13L I believe?) trash bag to line the inside of my pack. I made my own first aid kit, and I use a hammock with a home-made bug net and walmart tarp and SOL bivvy as a sleeping set up. All together my pack weighs 10-12 lbs and cost much less than using name brand set ups

[@maureenmccann8438]

Great video! I would like to add, for the teenagers/college students out there, I have found almost all of my hiking clothing, rain gear, jackets and hats (all top name brands) for about a 10th of the retail price at thrift stores. Also check out local "sports consignment" stores for clothing and gear. Just be sure to check all zippers, pockets, seams, etc., to be sure they are not worn or broken.

[@NatureShy]

I have been hiking and backpacking for years, but I always use the GPS on my iPhone. It works just as good as my Garmin, but much more convenient to use on the trail. I've never had reception problems using it, and I go into deep forested and/or alpine areas miles away from the nearest town or cell reception (mainly in Washington and Oregon). I would recommend using the GPS on a phone. Compasses are far too clumsy to use on the trail. But always it is a good idea to bring a paper or synthetic map. The USGS Quad maps are available for free online. Or the Nat Geo Trails Illustrated maps are good for a general area. The Green Trails maps are really great for the Pacific Northwest.

[@sintax77]

+Elemental Fluttershy★ Great feedback, thank you!

[@Cowboy-nu7ze]

They have a hammock on Amazon with a bug net for about 20 bucks. I bought it and it's is super comfortable. Built really well for the money

[@jgarrett0032]

Thanks for the video...looking for some advice. I'm new to backpacking so I'm slowly starting to get all my gear. I don't want to go budget on everything so I'm wondering what you think I should splurge on. My 2 big items left are my backpack and sleeping bag. Would you suggest going cheap on the pack (say the teton sports scout 3400) and splurge on a good down sleeping bag or get a cheap synthetic sleeping bag and splurge on a quality pack (something like an osprey).

[@Gewyne]

If you join the scouts of a trekking group, then you will often be able to borrow equipment from them for hikes. I also found when people got new kit they would hand down older stuff really cheaply or even free. In the UK doing the Duke of Edinburgh for example I got a sleeping bag/liner, rucksack, Tangia cookset , maps and compass given to me on each hike as well as the group having a tent loaned to us. When I discovered I loved trekking I started buying my own gear, but it's a great way to test the waters.

[@AgnoParxi]

I'll give you what 14 - 17 y/o me used to do. I'd usually only take a nalgene knock off with several bottles of water, a large tarp for rain and doing a partial "A" frame set up, a crappy backpack (one that was my brothers from a previous school year), strong twine, something to boil water and food in (used the same type of coffee container that sintax has a good video on), and a crappy sleeping bag. Outside of a hunting knife I took from my pops, I can't think of anything else I would bring with me on a weekend hiking/camping trip with friends in the Appalachian mountains. Obviously don't forget about small essentials like a lighter, food, etc. If you can't get a small axe or saw, just use the fire to do the splitting for you to split the logs.

[@jimkunkle2669]

A corrugated windshield sun block for a car makes a great pad for a very little bit of money. One of the silver ones reflects heat too!

[@Weberventure1]

Another great video, Syntax77. My advice would be for someone brand new to backpacking is to find an experienced backpacker to learn from. Chances are they already have shelter, water treatment, cook set, stove, etc. May even have an extra pack to loan out. In the beginning, don't buy it if you can borrow it. Let them do a couple overnighters and see if backpacking is their thing. If it is and it's time to buy their own gear, go to the local outdoor store and get sized. Knowing what size pack, bag, shelter works best for them will greatly increase the enjoyment. With that information, they can check big name outdoor websites for discounts and sales, scour the military surplus stores, thrift stores, and sell/trade websites. Just my initial thoughts.

[@ColHunterGathers]

Backpack - Go to big box retailer snd find something for $40-50. Mine was a canvas rut from army supply. (it builds character). My first several weekend hikes I used my old school book backpack. Tent - Tarp tree(s) some rope - done Sleep- Cheap foam pad and 1 large wool blanket. (At 15 I was 6'7" so I carried two blanket sewn together) Shoes - Wear tennis shoes. No need to buy anything special. Trash Bag - waterproofing for backpack and one for a poncho. I cut slits for backpack shoulder straps and reinforced it with duct tap Cook System - Coffee can and build a fire Food - Whatever Water - iodine tabs and any bottle that is water tight

[@DanSmith-qi5pm]

Great vids! I'm cheap, I love to hike/camp in warm and sub zero temps... Shelter - DD Travel Hammock is awesome. It comes with a bugnet and a two layer system underneath which allows you to slip in a sleeping pad(s), or you can use it as a tent because the bottom layer is water proof... Use this with a $12 walmart tarp, then upgrade to a lighter rainfly later. Sleep System - MSS Sleep system ($100) will be all you'll need for any of the 4-seasons. It also comes with a bivy. Drawback is it's heavy... Use this with a cheap closed foam pad (walmart) and wrap this with the HVAC mylar bubble wrap and you'll be warm down to -20 or colder...I just got back from the white mountains on an overnight and used this and stayed super warm!

[@scottboyes4792]

my fav gear is a roll up bamboo place mat about $1(great for the muddy or dusty day) my small 3 person tent about $25 after at Canadian tire used it for years. same with my sleeping bag about $15. and two knifes a dollar store cooking knife and a cheep full tang buck knife about $15. for cooking a light wait sauce pan and I cut off the the handle about 50 cents used plus a tin can with some holes in it (hobo stove).

[@carsenstrutz1394]

Hi I am 13 and also do not have a lot of money to spend on gear, I went the hammock route because they seem to be cheaper. I ended up going with the equip travel hammock from Walmart, it was $17 and I love it so if you are wanting to try a hammock I would recommend trying that hammock.

[@sintax77]

Carsen Strutz Good find! Enjoy :)

[@backpackingonline]

Big 3 and footwear. I started with a Boy Scout small canvas pack without the wood and rope pack frame, a 3 mil plastic 10’x10’ tarp I set the grommets, and a surplus sleeping bag. ..but I purchased the best hiking shoes I could find at REI.

[@johnbifulco707]

Ive used a $150 scorpion tent, fairly light and had no problems. but recently came across a $30 tent that is lighter and can be used with just hiking poles and the bit of rope and stakes provided and it is great. I would liken the decision to the bag for people who arent sure of the frequency they will backpack. It is by no means multi season and with a cheap tarp for added security from elements is reasonably fool proof. Shoot, without rain you can sleep under the stars in warmer months, but i dont play with luck. As for boots, I feel lucky in that the pair I've used most, both for mountain hiking in the Whites and tons of river crossings in Havasu near the Grand Canyon are a $35 pair of Ozark Trails from Walmart. Again i feel lucky in that I never have foot pain, minimal blisters, and fair grip. They are somewhat heavy and absolutely not water proof, but they have done the job after at least 200 miles, I love them. These things are more than enough to gauge ones interest and desire to drop more money on say Marmot's gear. Love your vids man, doing the pres traverse next week and so I've been watching, good luck out there.

[@holligirl786]

Coming from a broke college student, craigslist and used sports goods places are awesome for lower cost packs that are good quality, you can normally find older name brand bags for cheap. If you can find dollar store, they normally have lots of snacks, tarps, miscellaneous items that could be nice to have.. Also ask the people around you chances are they have some gear they don't use anymore. That's my two cents, these videos are super helpful I'm also newer to the backpacking world and it's nice getting real advice that's not coming from a company that wants you to buy the high price gear they're suggesting.

[@porcu12345]

From personal experience, I quickly found out that the sleep system was definitely the most important aspect for me. I started by going without a mat or anything, just a plain old sleeping bag (bad I know) needless to say my back was in agony after the first night and I didn't get much hiking done. A mat really didn't help me much at all. Then I started using an Airbed and it was amazing. I don't focus on carrying as little weight as possible so I can usually find room for it without it adding very much weight or taking up too much space. I have always had back problems so for me I needed to take the airbed if I was to enjoy my hobby to its fullest. It means I have to spend a little extra time finding a decent spot to set up my tent and 10-15 minutes and a bit of hastle pumping the thing but the level of comfort from it always ensures I have an amazing nights rest with no aches or pains to hinder me the next day. Obviously if you plan on being incredibly weight focussed an airbed and pump is out of the question but for a beginner/intermediate hiker I would recommend trying it. You can find some pretty space-efficient ones that don't weigh much at all.

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

A few notes: 1) Pack: Teton packs (especially the Scout which I think is about 46L) have quite a few good reviews on KZbin, and tend to range between $60-$80. I have not tried them. 2) Tent: To be honest, I have an Ozark Trail 2-person dome tent w rain fly I got at Walmart for about $40 last year. I love it. It's got some weight to it, though. It stuffs into a 7x14 sack, but you're best using one sack size bigger. Poles do not stuff into that sack. 3) Food: You don't need to actually cook some foods. Get the $1 packets of Idahoan brand mashed potatoes. You can add cold water to that and you're fine. A lot of people swear by Knorr rice side dish envelopes that run about 80 cents, but I've never really had that work that well with cold water. Then you can invest in a $10, long-handled spork for it, or look for a milkshake spoon at Goodwill for 25 cents. 4) Sleep pad: If you're going to get the $15 one, might as well just get the $7 blue mat at WalMart. 5) Clothing: One of the best things these days is that light polyester shirts are all over the place. The ones that retail for $5.76 at Walmart are actually pretty good so far. Then get a polyester fleece insulating layer (you're basic 1/2 or 1/4 zip) on eBay. A LOT of them are out there and you shouldn't have to pay more than about $15 including shipping. You can get house-brand synthetic pants where the legs zip off (and long-sleeve button-down shirts) at places like Bass Pro for a lot less than buying name brand. We're talking about $20-$25 whereas others will likely run the $70-$100 range. You can also usually get breathable, polyester underwear for about 3/$20.

[@JDCali459mm]

Also, you must test out your gear. My buddy flew in from San Diego to Boston last weekend for a White Mountains, NH 4 day hike. He did not play around with all his gear (rucksack) before he packed it. At first glance, it's a cool looking pack, not until you start inspecting it. As soon as he threw on his packed bag, the shoulder straps ripped. After serving several years in the military, you learn that having comfortable foot gear and a reliable pack is important to your mission. There are plenty of reliable packs under $100. You can always check out military equipment online or in military surplus stores. Military equipment is heavy, but I would rather deal with the extra weight, than juggling equipment midway through a hike due to a busted pack. Don't buy cheap packs, or understand the load of your pack. I'm sure my buddies pack would have survived if he didn't pack a 50LB load. However, it's always good to test out all your gear with it on your back, before your trip. Also, this bag has trouble fitting the US Military Modular 4 piece sleep system. It may look like a big pack but it's not. Here's the bag he bought: www.amazon.com/German-Flecktarn-Military-Outdoor-Professional/dp/B00F2QDUQ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396534907&sr=8-1&keywords=snow+camo+backpack

[@LunchboxTheMagnficen]

I'm not by any means an expert hiker. I am however, EXCEEDINGLY CHEAP so i feel i can help here. This is a long post, so bear with me. Pack: As mentioned, don't buy it at full price. If you can find it on sale, go for it(end of season is a great time to buy). Another option that many forget/avoid is buying used. There are lots of websites out there specifically to sell used backpacking gear. Craigslist is also another option. As always BUYER BEWARE. Make sure to check out the condition of the pack(in person if possible, otherwise get as many pictures as possible.). I personally did this recently and picked up a Kelty Redwing 50(retails around $120) for $30. Shelter: This falls into two camps: solo or with others. If you are going by yourself, a Hammock is a great and pretty cheap option. Another option you should look into is outlet stores. Many companies have outlet websites that offer Tents at 30-60% off. I know for a fact that Eureka does this on their website(google the company you want and add "Second hand" or "outlet store"), as i personally picked up a Eureka Solitare for $30(Normally $75-$90) last spring. It has held up great so far and is a wonderful solo tent. The only problem with this option is the stock fluctuates often because it is a very limited stock. Also be careful when purchasing from these types of sites because they often are refurbished(while not a problem for some, you should know ahead of time what you are buying) gear. If you are going with others, check to see who already has a tent(offer to share the weight). If you don't HAVE to spend the money, then don't! Sleep system: in the summer time, any cheap bag will work fine. If you don't have any sleeping bags at home, walmart will have some that will work fine. Find one that will fit you and you will be good to go. Get any foam mat. You'll be fine. Water Filter: Sawyer mini. Seriously just get it, giardia freaking sucks. Footware: DO NOT CHEAP OUT HERE. YOU WILL HATE HIKING IF YOUR FEET HURT THE ENTIRE TIME. This is where saving money on the stuff above can be used. Get quality shoes if you don't already have some. Fire: Lighter(i'd recommend two, they are light can cost less than $1), Ferro Rod(if you know how to use them) and matches. Ferro Rods can be found cheap on ebay. Check out sellers like Axeprice(i've bought a few from him/her. They are GTG). You can find one for less than $7 shipped. Cooking setup: Get the little pocket rocket Sintax recommended in the video. I have the same one and it's great for the price. It's on amazon. It takes a few weeks to ship from China, but you'll love it. You can buy IsoButane canisters at walmart. One will last you a few trips(unless you are boiling a ton of water. I use the same can setup Sintax uses(old coffee can) to boil water. Another option is esbit(or solid fuel) stoves. They will run you around $20-$30 for the set(stove itself, cooking cup and lid). I have one, they work nice but i prefer the pocket rocket. This is all unnecessary if you choose to just go with uncooked food. Cups: Walmart has an 18 oz Stainless steel nesting cup for $5. This is perfect if you want to separate cooking cup from eating/drinking. Check it out in the sporting goods/camping section. Food: Freeze dried meals are expensive. There's nothing wrong with getting some of those Pasta Sides(from Knorr, not sure who else makes them). They don't have meat, but they are real tasty and you can usually find them for less than $1. Buy a few(make sure to buy the ones that only need water) and see which ones you like. Other options are trail mix, cereal, certain candy bars. Pretty much anything that doesn't need refrigeration and is relatively light is gonna be your best friend on the trails. If you have any questions, feel free to hit me up.

[@thomaszabel1521]

I know that this is an old video, but I was in a similar situation a year ago, though I'm not 15. I basically bought footwear, and used my son's school backpack, and stuck to day hikes for all of 2017. Once I saved enough money, I got a good deal on a real backpack. 3rd will be hammock in another month, and then I'll get the sleeping bag or top quilt. Along the way, I got a cheap stove and water filter, even though I didn't need it for day hikes. I estimate that I will have enough gear by this Spring to start doing multi-day trips.

[@Kasino80]

I bought a pair of trail runners at a supermarket last year for 300 Danish Kroner that's about 45 USD. They work very well on flat to light/moderate elavation. I had them on on a hike in hills and they were too slippery. My advice would be to start with trail runners and then plan the hike to match the footwear.

[@ojDASH]

Alps Lynx tent you can catch on sale for under $100 ( I paid $60 for mine off SAC like 4 years ago) and they are less than 5lbs and are easy to set up/take down. Backpack can go with a dragonfly which is an external frame for $50. I only use quilts now so no inexpensive rec on the bag.

[@tylermentink2276]

Hit up craigslist in the fall or late winter. People who thought they were going to get totally into backpacking will be trying to get something back on the stove they used twice or they just bought new gear for the next season. Also of you're in the U.S. Hit up rei garage sales. You can score some pretty awesome deals if you're patient, also some gear may still be covered by the original warranty, such as merrell boots and osprey packs.

[@jasonpetty3786]

I use the military modular sleep system. Comprised of I heavy winter sleeping bag and one light weight summer bag and a bivy. I typically only use the summer bag. Very light and compact. You can get the whole system for about $100.00 or just the green summer bag for around $30.00.

[@jhippl]

i think the black bag of the mms with the bivi is great (around $60 on ebay mil surp), toss in a diy sil nylon tarp (around $40). you could even add in a 55gal drum liner for a ground sheet (not really needed if ya use the bivi but is nice). toss in the cheap foam pad. that would cover sleep and shelter. check out craigslist in your area for a backpack (cheaper than having to pay shipping on ebay) nice shoes are a must have. the sawyer filter is great, its what alot of people use. if you want a cook set do a dyi alcohol stove with a walmart grease pot. (8 total for pot and stove) edit: if you want some rain gear you can get a military poncho ($35 ebay) which can double as a tarp instead of the diy sil nylon tarp for the sleeping setup. granted its not gonna be as good but to start you can pick your weather a little bit more

[@kelseyanne5215]

Army surplus store is a great way to get a quality pack and sleep system for a decent price. If you have a drug plan, you can go to your doctor, tell them about your trip and they can prescribe you ibuprofen, anti-nausea and anti-diarhea pills for your first aid kit that are covered by your drug plan. Also Dollarama in Canada is a good place for the non essentials. Go to one in a good neighbourhood, they usually have more selection, and they will have the most camping stuff in spring. For $7 I bought a rain poncho, travel sized Banana Boat sunscreen and a sun hat with a bug net attached to a pocket on the inside.

[@camezcym4975]

[If you have a drug plan, you can go to your doctor, tell them about your trip and they can prescribe you ibuprofen, anti-nausea and anti-diarhea pills for your first aid kit that are covered by your drug plan.] Those are all OTC (Over The Counter) medications. It seems getting a special prescription for them is unneeded unless the person needs a special dosage. I think you may be saying that where the health of a citizen is considered a societal benefit and is paid for by everyone, sorta like medicare/medicaid with no age limits, then having the drugs prescribed would save money.

[@theonebighoss]

Another option (if no one has mentioned this already)- Talk to friends and family, see if they have any gear they're not using and may give to you. As mentioned in the beginning, NEVER skimp on the shoes. Buy new, good-quality, hiking shoes. If your total weight is above 30lbs, get boots. Under 30lbs, you can use trail-running shoes. Most everything else can be hand-me-downs, thrift store buys, or scout around for cheap options. The Sporting Goods section at Walmart has improved lately, you can get a 5x7 tarp for $8! Also, if you can get some money together go shop the sporting goods stores during major sales (Black Friday, post-Christmas etc.) I got a 45 degree 1lb 9oz sleeping bag at Dick's for a whopping $12. Backpacking can be done on the cheap, you just might have to search around to find what will fit your needs and budget.

[@phaZed9]

Grand Trunk Skeeter Beater Pro Hammock is $70 on Amazon and has a bug net on one side. Combine it with a hammock tarp for another $60-$70 and it makes for a really nice setup that is lightweight and small.

[@WoodsTrekkinAdventures]

Check the local walmart. Mine has recently upgraded the camping section! Sawyer mini cost 19.95! They just recently started carrying a 40 degree mummy bag that packs down really well. They are also carrying a two person tent for 29.95. Probably not the greatest, but for a budget conscious backpacker it would get them by for a season or two. Also, are carrying fire starters, budget Stanley cook kits, just a few thoughts. Also, check EMS for footwear close outs in the fall. I picked up a pair of Garmont Zenith mids for 99 bucks....awesome! Just my two cents. There are two guys on you tube that field test cheap backpacking gear from Walmart too. Can't think of the channel name but just search it. Thanks for the informative video. I have learned much since subscribing last year!

[@samsmith8870]

I would say the Eureka Solitaire tent, Teton Sports Scout 3400 pack, Outdoor Vitals OV-Light 35 bag and a cheap closed cell pad. 200 bucks and proven performers. Off and running... The pack is a bit heavy but it's comfy, fully adjustable, comes with a cover, and tuff (plus he's young...). I still use it for travel and overnight fishing trips. Shoes at that age are what parents are for lol. You can get a pair of Salomon trail runners for 70 bucks that last a while. Plus there's always REI garage sales.

[@MoniqueDiCarlo]

Fitted many at REI and fell in love with the Salomon XaComp 7. Went online and found a different color on sale at REI and got them for $83!

[@TPLeatherworks]

I just got a grand trunk skeeter beeter hammock that comes with a bug net for $70 and it's great quality and sturdy. Highly recommend

[@anticure8317]

if your not worried about ultra light stuff military surplus gear is awesome. the alice medium rucksack can be had with frame and everything for under $50 if you shop around.

[@jonathanclinton5465]

I agree for the most part, as for myself I like to always carry a knife and some sort of fire starter. You nvr know what could happen and a knife and fire starter could save your life. I also carry a light poncho, it can be used to make shelter, and obviously keep you dry in a lighter rain. Also like to carry 20ft or so of para cord. These are just personal preferences that dont add to much weight to a light pack. Thanks for the vid.

[@sintax77]

Jonathan Clinton All good practices. Speaking of paracord, I recently switched over to carrying Zing-It line. Half the weight and space, slippery coating for bear bag hanging, rated 400lbs and doesn't stretch. I'm liking it a lot.

[@btmountaineer93]

Military surplus is the way to go when starting out on a budget. It's not usually the lightest stuff out there, but it's built really well and durable. Most of it you can find in used but good condition for cheap.

[@rlreeb]

We have a Coleman Max 2 person tent (Ebay $70.00) that is excellent and has a lot of features you will find on the more expensive tents. It's also big enough you can keep your gear in it at night to keep it dry. Also try military surplus stores. You can get a good backpack there for not too much money among other types of gear. Also, where Sintax77 said not to skimp on your footwear, don't skimp on your knife either. It's an essential tool. Hope this helps.

[@gwubllu3384]

If your about 5'11" or shorter a Junior Dome from walmart and sleep in it diagonally. It's fairly light, definitly cheep, and not carrying extra weight makes for a more comfortable night.... or just buck up and just use a tarp... Can be fun setting up and learn some knots and lashing... You can save weight and energy with some hiking poles or sticks and can use to set up your tarp.

[@russellholdren1]

Kmart/Sears sells a two man tent for under $40 that weighs under 3 lbs if you omit the stuff sacks. I bought one on sale in February 2014 for $25 and hiked to seven mile camp in the Florida everglades with it. I weathered a storm that literally laid it down on top of me. I had minimal leakage and probably would have had none if I had treated it with silicone. It's a great start for a pack tent.

[@drewmaggio1275]

Great vid! I'm turning 14 this summer and I'm in the exact same situation. Thanks!

[@timsbushcraftandoutdoors7634]

Nice job Sintax! Very good advice all around. Making their own cook set can save them so much money, I hope they get permission and find that particular project simple and fun…Also, I haven't tried the Sawyer filtration products but a Sawyer mini is something I will get before late spring…I do have a Hiker Pro and as good a product as it is it just takes up a lot of room in the pack especially in the day pack. It's just about the biggest item in either pack and it cost me around $80-85…Well done Sintax, Love your vids!...ATB Tim

[@timothyciarlette8250]

Another great video. Again great viewer and subscriber input. And Shay thanks for sharing your adventure with us.

[@DaNewfNL]

On the topic of footwear. If you are carrying a light pack over easy terrain in dry warm, weather then you might get by in a comfortable pair of sneakers if you already have a set in good condition. Especially a 15 year old boy who isn't experiencing any of the joint issues that comes with age and wear. If you get into backpacking and decide you will be doing a lot of it (particularly in tough, cold, wet conditions) then take a harder look at throwing some money at footwear.

[@sintax77]

Great tip. Some trail runners would probably do just fine for someone who isn't carrying multiple dollars (pounds) of gear!

[@lukechristensen7956]

If you are looking into hammock camping on Amazon.com there is a great Grand Trunk hammock for 15 bucks right now. It's called Grand Trunk Ultralight hammock. Also you can get like 7 dollar foam pads from Walmart and I have been using one for a couple of years and they work fine.

[@frankm3327]

I got a 5$ pack cover from Wal-Mart. Its lasted two years now. You can also buy an over size poncho for rain gear for under 10$.

[@outdoorswoman]

I have been looking at the local army surplus. They have some great deals on a lot of different things.

[@VeggieHeather]

Not sure if anyone here has suggested this, but if you're young (or older and don't mind picking up a part time job) getting a job at a store that sells products like this can really be a way to save some dollars. Usually the stores management allows employee discounts on product. Ask around at some stores and see what their discount is like, without being too nosey because you might end up applying there. Some places might not be much but anything is better than nothing. So go get that job at REI or Academy or your local camping goods store and put in some time and spend and save your now earned money. Also, SALESALESALE SIntax is totally right. Sign up for stores mailing lists, they can email you to alert you about sales. Go to the REI Garage Sale at multiple locations if you can. I found my first pack there and saved like $120 on a name brand pack. Worth waiting in line overnight for sure.

[@tacticalasian8232]

I just started as well. But I have 2 different hammocks. One is the Equip travel hammock from wall mart. And then the bear grills bug net hammock. But if your looking for a cheep starting hammock go with the wal mart equip hammock. They do last a long time as well.

[@fngonzo]

For rain gear, you can get find cheap ponchos at the dollar store and Walmart. For waterproofing, you can used a trashbag in you pack and a second trash bag for you bag. If you are wearing you back while it is raining, you can use another cheap poncho for your pack. For cooking, you might be able to find an ikea childern's cook kit in the (called duktig) kid's section.

[@lonoster8501]

A few things.... I think if YOU are asking your buddy or someone like Sintax advice on buying gear, giving him / them a little info &^ this helps you get the right gear. Like if u were going camping in Michigan UP or camping in Florida everglades, i may have 2 different answers for some things.Camping here in Wyoming can be a very different list depending on the month. its snowed in July in the mountains.......Anyways, u can get a hammock from cabelas for $20 for about $70 it has a really nice net. I bought 4 single man tents for $20 a piece at sports authority in Michigan in the after summer sale, but u can buy a tent all day for under $50, just watch the weight. I'm not going to lie, I dont have any tents now that costs $50 but i have had them. Sawyer mini, buy it, 2oz works great $18.44 right now at Walmart. Cabelas price matched it. There are a TON of tarp pitches, just dont use those blue ones. They weigh more, more room & they dont get tight 4 ya. in one of my packs i have an old tent fly for my tarp ( bought a tent, dog ran thru the CLOSED door after something. Had the tent 2 days) Buy a mora knife, the robust or companion, 2 bics in different spots, buying a cook set, well theres a video where a guy did it for 4 bucks, with a stove & kit bad at a 2nd hand store. if youre younger, get permission & help with the stove, you can use one of your sisters Cds for a signal mirror lol jk. you can get used sleeping bags at 2nd hand stores, saw one for $12 it was a coleman. Hit garage sales. Oh Sintax said leave the rain gear, nah, just grab a home depot garbage bag 55 gallon, it has a bunch of uses, but thats more "survival" stuff. I always tell people in my group to start shopping at home 1st. basement garage, drawers...Also while your robbing the drawers, grab some rope as in cordage. the light stiff, twine jute... Wish ya luck Jarrod

[@OutLan]

Great vid as always Sintax! Side note, I found the Sawyer Mini at our local Walmart the other day. And some of the Outdoor Products stuff there is pretty decent.

[@Neon_Caveman]

My thoughts... On med kits, keep in mind local issues, if poison ivy is prevalent in your area keep some calamine lotion or histamine tablets or spray (same for bug bites) - you dont want to be miserable, and if you're in the desert get a little campmore snake bite kit for three dollars. For shelter I've been seeing more bug net bivys in places like Walmart for 8-10 dollars, that and a decently thin blue tarp not the canvas ones for covering your lawnmower) and some stakes and cord will work pretty well (if you get torrential rain either don't go out, buy a cat hole shovel and dig a little trench, or get a tub bottom tent (I have a wenzel wanderer I think it is, its discontinued but you can still find them on amazon and eBay, great summer one man, and its stood in 35+ mph winds for me), packs I don't have a lot of advice, but if you go minimal you can get away with a Walmart or target day pack (look for the one with just a main compartment, and maybe two front zips, compression straps are nice and a waist belt will really help too) and you'll save on weight too. For a sleeping bag in the summer, early fall, late spring I use a teton sports +20 trailhead, I think it cost 30 dollars, its nice and amazingly compressible as well.

[@bubbles44088]

Walmart dude...I know some people are against Walmart but I recently found a lightweight 46L backpack for $30 and a nicer 46L bag for $50 and quick dry clothes and under suits for under $20 per piece... And another backpacker says skip boots for a quick drying trail running shoe, he did the pct in comfort (no blisters). Also Wenzel has a tent for $50 on Amazon. Being that he is 15 I doubt he is planning long distance outings. Yeah as he gets more experience then start worrying about the bigger ticket items.

[@davidhelfrich6487]

Shoes: Merrell Moab Ventilators $90, Rain gear: $1 emergency poncho, Tarp: painter nylon drop cloth 12 x 9 reinforce edges and make loops with duct tape and it is under 2 lbs at Home Depot, socks: Under armor trainers on sale 3 pairs for $6 at Dick's, Pack $35 US Military Assault Pack or Ruck Sack, or a Golite Jam for $100, Sleeping Bag: SOL Breathable Bivvy weather proof works great and light weight for $30 on amazon! Cook set: Fast food spork, bowl, Sintax's cook set is what I use! Thanks bro for the video you saved me $50. Knife buy a cheap one from internet or walmart, your not going to be Jeremiah Johnson mainly use it to open food, hell a cheap retractable razor knife will work, $1.00. Head lamp: Home depot Energizer $15 or cheap flashlight with a DIY 550 cord headband. Clothes: Walmart cheap workout shorts, compression shorts, and tshirt, mine ran about $8 each. Water purification, bleach(takes 30 min) or sawyer mini(instant). Food: Buy the cheap instant packets from the grocery for muffins, mash potatoes, canned meat and etc. Check the Kroger 10 for $10 if you have one near you. Shovel: Cheap orange plastic garden trowel.

[@cabinman]

Dutchware hammock 11' netless hammock $38 Kelty Noah 9' tarp will cover it amply $60 Bug spray to keep away mosquitos $6 (personally I use permethrin on my clothes and hammock and tents and Avon skin so soft with picaridin to keep all the critters away. Great vid Sintax!

[@sintax77]

+7frazier Solid list right there!

[@michaelbaldwin6543]

I added a bug net to my self made hammock by buying a sheer curtain panel off of amazon and watched a vid by CrypticCricket for assembly ideas. It works great!

[@michaelbaldwin6543]

I added a bug net to my self made hammock by buying a sheer curtain panel off of amazon and watched a vid by CrypticCricket for assembly ideas. It works great!

[@michaelbaldwin6543]

I added a bug net to my self made hammock by buying a sheer curtain panel off of amazon and watched a vid by CrypticCricket for assembly ideas. It works great!

[@loniscollectables]

About a year ago I found a 2 person tent and a air mattress at Dick's Sporting Goods for $30. Granted you don't want the extra weight from the air mattress when hiking, the tent was a good deal.

[@Peiffer.jacob13]

i got a modular sleeping bag for $30. it has a 32 degree bag, a 0 degree bag, and a rain cover. combine them for a -50 degree bag. with a small tarp for your gear that is all the shelter you need. the problem is the military surplus bag requires you to be part of a non-profit group (like boy scouts) to get the deal, and i only know the one in Harrisburg, PA (my area).

[@wepntech]

look into mylar (space blanket) material bivys, tents, blankets etc... grate for reflectors and such lots stuff available around in that department.

[@alfredwallace9720]

You can snag a Grand Trunk hammock for like $20 I think if that's the route you want to go. It would be more than adequate for a 15 year old I'm sure. Couple that with a decent sleeping bag and a cheap tarp and you'd be set with the sleep system for warmer weather at least! I've slept in my ENO with just a cheap sleeping bag overnight in the summer and stayed perfectly warm. Obvoiusly it's a bit risky to have no tarp unless you know for sure it's not going to rain. Anyway, good tips in this video! Side note on the shoes, if you really have a fairly light pack and are going in the summer somewhere with no difficult terrain, I'd think a decent pair of tennis shoes (or trail runners, whatever) would also fit the bill. I know a lot of ultralighters use them.

[@TheHiddenWoodsmen]

Military surplus. Heavy but cheap. All my beginning gear was surplus. A mss sleeping patrol bag is good to 40 deg and is like $20

[@renieves]

Great Video. Just want to share an idea I stumbled upon. I walked into a Goodwill store one day and spotted a sweet pair of Merrell Moab Ventillators for my son in great condition (barely broken in). Brand new $100. I got them for $6. Score! Now I know some folks wouldn't go for used shoes, but for my 12 year old who is going to grow out of them in a minute, they're working great! Since then, I've seen more nice hiking shoes in the Goodwill store. Of course this is going to be pretty hit and miss to find good hiking shoes in your size, but you never know. Another option for used hiking shoes is REI garage sales.

[@tblbaby]

Swiss rubberized military pack surplus, used is fine they are great and water proof, probably $35. Wool blanket, 100% is vital to keep very warm if wet, probably 2 of them, warm whatever weather. Make a fire, free. Good stainless steel cup you can drink with or cook with like Serra cup. Cheap aluminum pot or stainless. A nice carbon steel skillet is great and they can be found used for not much sometimes. It's close to cast quality to cook in but not near the weight. Check 2nd hand stores & yard sales and all that. You can do a lot with aluminum foil or even on rocks. Stainless steel water bottle you can boil water in. Military surplus poncho, probably $12 covers everything nice. Couple heavy duty construction garbage bags, you can cut the end of one open and sleep in them as a bivy cover if you need. You can also make a good bivy cover of tyvek. Use grasses and tree bows for a soft bed. Set the poncho up over your head with some breathing room. There are also cheap light pop up tents. I'd get a good mora knife which beats many of the high priced knives at a great budget price. Good used hatchet is worth the weight. I also always carry an additional tough heavy bladed knife for jobs you don't want to mess up your knife on. A couple pairs of good light weight running shoes like new balance which are ultra light, gotten second hand cheap. You don't need boots unless it's cold, or you're rock climbing. Couple pairs of good socks. Duct tape is valuable often. Soap, toilet paper, towel

[@pirateotter]

I know it sounds weird, but you can buy most everything off of amazon. They have a great selection of hiking/camping gear for cheap. If I remember correctly you can buy shoes try them on and if they don't fit then send them back (just make sure you read if the company takes back items). Love your videos keep it going :)

[@jakemarcum8031]

got a high Sierra 35 L piton backpack on sportsmans guide for like 45 bucks. just got into backpacking myself and used it on a 26 mile two day hike/ hammock camp trip and it was very easy to carry 20-25 pounds on this trip. not sure if it's a top quality pack but for the money it worked nicely for me

[@ShirtsOfTheFlannel]

I've been using a grandtrunk unltralight hammock for about 3 years and havent had any issues and it only cost about 20$. I did eventually upgrade to a heavier hammock and still use my GT occasionally. :P

[@Kasino80]

I've bought a bunch of sports t-shirts at H&M. They're 80 Danish Kroner which is about 12 USD. Might be worth a shot. It depends of course whether H&M is cheap in the US. I've heard they're expensive in some countries. Anyway, the shirts are sturdy, fit well and keep you dry.

[@ejdupont]

My hiking boots are Converse high tops with quality insoles (about $50 total). Comfortable with some ankle support and dry quickly. First aid kit is easier than a lot of people think. Talk to your friends parents. Someone can get you some small packets of antibiotics and aspirin (sinus medicine, burn cream). I have a great first aid kit that I got for free. You can get a Rothco jungle hammock for under 50 dollars. About 5 pounds after you add the rope, but then you dont need a sleeping pad.

[@andrewcashin8450]

Check out the Eureka Apex Solo tent. Not the lightest tent, but its easy to set up and the price tag is only 99$. I recently bought one and although I've not taken it on a trip yet, I've tested it in the rain in my back yard, and it will keep you dry. Amazon has it advertised as 4.1 pounds , but I'm thinking that does not account for the poles and stake bag (Included) because on my scale it weighs in at 5.8 pounds, which is fairly heavy for a solo tent. Even cheaper and lighter is the Eureka Solitaire for about 75 dollars, but I cannot attest its quality, although it gets "okay" reviews. On the topic of stoves and cookware... Get a GSI cup for 10 dollars on amazon, use plastic utensils (Maybe also a metal spoon from the ranger surplus store (3$ or so), and make a stove with a cat food can and hole punch as seen here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppLNnKdrbpmFq9k I use denatured alcohol for my stove, but some say HEET works best. DO NOT COOK INSIDE YOUR TENT.... unless maybe you have a lot of experience. These stoves tend to randomly flame up sometimes, and you may not be able to safely remove your cup until the fire dies. You can usually avoid this by learning the right amount of fuel to use. There are a lot of videos on how to work this thing, I suggest you watch all of them and practice using the stove before taking it instead of an easier stove like the pocket rocket, jetboil, or optimus crux. Unfortunately with stoves, the easiest to use are also the most expensive. Depending on your preference, you will probably want a jetboil at some point though.

[@GeneralPreparedness1]

You've done a great job once again Syntax. On the rain gear, I consider myself an experienced hiker/backpacker and I still carry a $.99 poncho you can get at Wal Mart or dollar stores. Wet pants can dry and I always carry spare clothes. Finding a good deal on a Military Sleep System (MSS) is also a great way to get very good (but heavy) sleeping bags for cheap. I have all of the commercial rated bags and an MSS and I wouldn't hesitate to use it. Oh also it can be had for around $75 shipped from armygear.net

[@kyle6598]

For a cheep light weight pack look at Wal-Mart. I got a 45-50 liter internal frame pack that weighs less the 2 lbs for under $35. I have the arrow 8.0.

[@sintax77]

+prepman15 Wow, that's a nice price. Good tip!

[@brandonm9480]

+prepman15 i started out with the same pack years ago really cheap price great for the beginner i think, i still have mine actually want to use it for an ultralight setup haha

[@EarlyMist]

Great advice. I would SERIOUSLY add check out thrift shops (we call them Op shops here in OZ) regularly. Also Kerbside collections in affluent and well to do areas. I have picked up Kathmandu backpacks, high quality crumpler messenger satchel bags, Carribee hiking packs etc for either free ( off kerbside council collections ) or for five to ten bucks from Op shops. I have about fifteen steel and Alu water bottles for about a dollar each ( normally about $20). I've made about four grand selling the stuff I don't need over the last few years. I have expensive high quality gear too but I just cannot go past piles of stuff and thrift stores and I am constantly blown away by the quality gear well to do people just throw away...its mind boggling. Do it.

[@thelaser69]

I've been trying to transition from car camping to backpacking gear on a (not crazy, but still) budget. You can catch pretty good sales over the winter when companies are rolling out their new models. Check out REI's Flash packs, often on sale, the 45L is only about $75 and the 65L is still under $100. I really like my Mountain Hardwear Lamina bag, it packs down real nice and is way cheaper than down. I also found an ALPS 1P tent for about $65, I've personally never cared for hammocks, and the ALPS tent was the best I could find under 4lbs. As far as shoes go, my recommendation is try to duel purpose them. Next time you need a new pair of gym shoes, or even just day to day shoes, just go a little nicer and grab some good trail runners or something similar. They'll wear out faster than if you only wore them hiking, but you won't have to drop a bunch of money on something dedicated solely to a hobby.

[@sintax77]

Good point on the shoes. Anything you can dual purpose in your "regular life" is basically another form of money saved.

[@flysubcompact]

Syntax77....another great video and another reason I like your channel. Jarod, (not to pirate Syntax's traffic, but) check my latest video and you can see bargain stuff that recently kept my comfy to a rainy 45 degrees. Walmart down bag-$70, WM hammock-$25, (modded with new suspension a bud made for another $20), WM fleece blanket-$5, WM Sawyer filter- $30, Army surplus sleep pad-$3 at 2nd hand store, Reflectix insulation pad at Home Depot for $9, WM cheap Croc camp shoes-$5, WM pack cover-$6. DYI beer can alcohol beer can stove...$3 for HEET fuel. Knorr side dish meals-$1, etc. I have a nice silnylon tarp, but I first used a WM tarp.

[@adventure_hannah3841]

This is such a good video! You hit the nail on the head on what is truly necessary in backpacking. I don't think I have ever had a base weight over 15lbs, simply because I don't have a lot of stuff (hooray for being frugal!)