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Super Eyepatch Wolf: Horror in Impossible Places Liminal Spaces and The Backrooms Reaction Part B
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[@MavrosStJohn]

Oddly enough, Kane Pixels, as an artist, does try and make stuff in the middle ground you mentioned. A lot of their work is about realizing you are not alone in this nostalgic space, and the terror about not seeing it just yet.

[@shcdemolisher]

Yeah, and not seeing whatever monster makes it more tense. You can make hints that there is something in proximity, like remains, claw marks, distant roars that echo, and other things to imply that you aren’t alone. It’s not just jumpscare after turning around type of stuff.

[@Kodaemon]

As far as academic studies go, Mark Fisher really had something going with his differentiation between the eerie and the weird. One of the inspirations for my own work.

[@ivangood7121]

"The house of leaves" actually belongs to ergodic literature that is literature that plays with the medium (paper) itself. It's not even always a horror. Like there was one book which plot is in notes by fictional readers on the boarders of the book they reading (which you read as well).

[@NOOB-ps8km]

Simply put. Change is scary. Things not changing makes it safe. Things about to change makes it not safe. Liminal horror is being close to the top of a rollercoaster and it slows down to a crawl, you feel it is moving, then slowind down more and more until you don't know if it stopped or not. Of course after that is the release. You go down screaming terrified but also happy. Liminal horror is being stuck in that final moment before release, LOOONG past anticipation or confusion or anger. With no one to call, all alone. And you can't see the end.

[@Sevensilversuns]

Is it wierd i dont fear change?

[@NOOB-ps8km]

@@Sevensilversuns not at all.

[@Kodaemon]

House of Leaves is... different. It's a boxed narrative, an annotation upon on an annotation on a an essay on a supposed film (the essay written by a BLIND MAN) that might or might not exist, and something bizarre happens and it starts to overtake the very typesetting of the book. Highly recommended piece of literature.

[@Kodaemon]

Huge inspiration for the Alan Wake games also.

[@angrybrony]

the "hi, i'm paul" awas at the end of ever jimmy neutron episode. the studio had that cgi money with 3 eyes say it on there logo.

[@Airier]

Knew I saw it somewhere before! Thanks. 😁👍

[@FortuitousOwl]

I was thinking it was after a cartoon but I couldn't remember which one!

[@James_Wisniewski]

House of Leaves is something else. This thing is laid out like the Talmud, and I'm convinced the author was inspired by that very thing. The entire book is footage from a film, commented on by the creator, commented on by a now dead film critic with a mysterious past, and put together and framed by a tattoo artist who's slowly losing his marbles as the book's physical layout progresses. There are entire pages upon pages of footnotes written by the tattoo artist that start out with a vaguely related anecdote and slowly spin out of control into incomprehensiblity. One footnote takes you to the back of the book where you find about 80 pages of letters to the tattoo artist from his mother who was committed to an insane asylum, with the letters themselves descending into raving madness in one of the most honestly heartbreaking passages I've ever read in a book. I still haven't finished the book myself because navigating this thing is exhausting, but if you have the patience and mental fortitude, it's definitely worth it.

[@qsdfgmlkjh4320]

Liminal space do be relaxing and terrifying depending on the mood of day

[@Airier]

Yup. For example, the unscary part at the beginning of the vid creeped me out, but the second, explicitly horror, second half was not nearly as scary. 🤔

[@matthewdougherty1159]

45:00 lol going to sound cheesy "fear is the mind killer" oftentimes i was taught growing up in "Liminal Spaces" or anywhere it is your own mind that is the monster.

[@Airier]

Makes sense.

[@orange2pq175]

Nuh uh

[@Shythalia]

Kane was 16 when he made his first Backrooms video. A24 just hired him last year to create the Backrooms movie. Pretty cool! Liminal space became popular in 2019 then exploded in 2020.

[@SprayInk-Kreatïv-Nouveau]

Yeah, there was a movie about the house being bigger on the inside than the outside called "You Should Have Left"

[@breakfastatmilliways]

Okay, so. I feel you almost 100% about that kind of writing, but house of leaves does it amazingly well. It took me almost a decade to read it and the awkward and performative formatting was part of that but most of it was because I’m a scaredy cat and it consistently freaked me out the entire time. It never fully stopped scaring me.

[@janematthews9087]

I still find it hilarious being in /x/ when this was first posted and just finding it one of the many copypastas and ignoring it. Only to find it out in the wild years later. Shit's straight fun.

[@delrodriguez9422]

This is one of my Supereyepatchwolf videos for some wierd reason is one my favorites I feel both that limenal spaces are creepy and weirdly nostalgic. Also please react to IN STARS AND TIME jello video part 2

[@matthewdougherty1159]

35:58 so like the choose your own adventure puzzle books for kids where sometimes you need a mirror or need to fold the pages to find out what page to go to next. the one i hated was the cipher one where you need to find every third or forth letter to find the answer and like you were saying the type font being off and adding all the letters.

[@Airier]

I'm a bit jealous. The choose your own adventure books I had growing up were no where near that interesting. 😮

[@matthewdougherty1159]

@@Airier The Usborne Puzzle Adventures book series is the main one i remember and the book of knowledge encyclopedia had some puzzles in it i think. the one you may like is The Cave of Time a.k.a. Choose Your Own Adventure #1 by Edward Packard 🤔 PS Usborne Solve It Yourself Series

[@sasugaainz6824]

The backrooms aren’t purely monster focused, the levels themselves are the main focus. Many levels don’t even have monsters, instead having strange effects or phenomena. It’s basically like SCP but for locations rather than entities

[@Evilgamesvlogs]

Something that I fell could be liminal is that time of night when there is no cars driving outside no animals sounding just absolute silence I kind of like that because I’m usually reading when it hits that time and it is very peaceful

[@Beamer1969]

Willian Gibson was talking about the fascination of liminal spaces in the early 2000's in his blue ant trilogy.

[@CGomm-le7gv]

35:46 sounds like some rule books dronicom covers in his 2 weird table top rpgs one rule book just randomly has a cake recipe halfway in it

[@hugobellet4950]

You need to react to the last Grimmjack's video "Delicious in Dungeon in a Nutshell", because literally evrything Delicious in Dungeon related is gold.

[@matthewdougherty1159]

34:17 funny i remember reading a lot of old stories and legends.....and watching a few movies that had this theme of "doors that should not go anywhere but do" and not in a horror kind of way. and if seen at a different perspective would be a horror story🤔

[@davidmicheaels343]

almost 50 minutes of airier being terrified, yay.

[@-travalgarvallertine-8272]

another great video, i have lots of experience in dealing with sorta liminal spaces, living in the country side i would take midnight walks with no equipment (even before mobile phones) around the factory's and countryside were there's no sound, no lights, no people just alone in the dark for hours and at times it would feel like i would never get home other times i would stop walking in pitch blackness and realise it wasn't my own footsteps i was hearing......

[@Airier]

Yeah, that. That's basically my nightmare right there. "Is wasn't my own footsteps I was hearing" is the kind of line I DEFINITELY can not handle. Way too terrifying. 😨

[@-travalgarvallertine-8272]

@@Airier yeah I kinda sped up walking after that lol When you live in a remote area and in the early hours if the morning it could be anyone

[@CGomm-le7gv]

29:30 maybe your thinking of the house of usher ?

[@matthewdougherty1159]

28:10 the biggest disappointment is the one that never happens and🤔 the paintings give me uncanny valley feelings like the find the differences puzzles only there is no difference

[@Alpharius93]

So great to hear your thoughts on the rest of the video! I ended up getting a copy of House of Leaves after watching it for the first time, and wow it is an experience...

[@an_insane_rogue_ai]

22:10 because this was a common enough issue in medieval England the husband would bring along some armed trusted men as bodyguards to protect the couple from any attacks these bodyguards sticking around in more recent times because it was tradition at that point eventually evolving into the tradition of groomsmen and the best man.

[@singletona082]

i'm in category 2 of the artistry behind liminal spaces being... almost meditative.

[@maximusharbour3463]

No, the backrooms is not a game. People have tried to make games of it, but they are extremely unfinished and only have like 5% of the backrooms at best. The "levels" of the backrooms are like levels of a building, not videogame levels. It is first and foremost, not really supposed to be a videogame.

[@ArthurAsterion]

House of Leaves is my favourite book and I’m forever thankful to John for recommending it, one of a kind experience. Though now, when I finished it, it doesn’t feel as grim as he was trying to sell it - it can be read as a love story/”broken home” cautionary tale with mystical metaphors. I also liked how Greek mythology a.k.a. my childhood hyperfixation was incorporated into it (I’m not gonna spoil which myths exactly I’m talking about, but if you know the setup, you might have some ideas). Also, fragment with quick rundown of liminality in our culture was pretty neat. “Once you see it, you will never be able to unsee” is such a cliché line for horror, but John makes it work in the context.

[@foxy.overkill9989]

The house of leaves reminds me of zeemyth's infinite house video. Would recommend watching it as well as his Playlist 'the roothouse'.

[@ArthurAsterion]

Btw, if you want to check out something with similar vibes, "Why You Should Watch Disturbing Horror Movies" would be a great choice. It's one of my favourite vids from SEW, and it's much shorter than his usual essays.

[@grimsladeleviathan3958]

What this watch through made me think of, I've watched the original so many times two hands are not enough to count it, is... what does happen if things change? What if you're stuck in a liminal space for so long that you're not even aware or sure that time is moving, and then... you find an exit. You leave, and the world returns to normal. What then? Can you truly just go on like usual? Can you really just continue living with that knowledge undoubtedly buried deep into you? Can you walk through the city you've lived in and talk to people like normal after what you've been through? You wish for things to change, you wish for something to happen, to see a person, to find a monster, to reach an exit. But... are you really prepared for when things do change? Do you honestly want that change after being so accustomed to that new reality? I know that some reading this will think it's an idiotic question. Of course you'd want to leave the creepy place. But to me... I'm just as scared of being in an endless, meaningless place alone, as I am if I found an exit. It almost reminds me of eldritch horror. That thought of, "Would you really be the same after seeing what you saw?" You've just experienced something that, by all accounts, should be impossible. You saw things that you really shouldn't have seen. And after that... can things really go back the way they were? Maybe I'm indecisive, maybe I'm scared of change. Maybe I'm just a coward. But personally... I don't think I'd be able to live normally after such an experience...

[@Airier]

Oddly enough, that scenario is exactly how I've heard vets describe returning to civilian life after serving in active duty. 🤔

[@grimsladeleviathan3958]

@@Airier Maybe that's why some soldiers, from movies I watched I should clarify, anticipate returning to the frontlines more than visiting home on a break. Maybe this is cherry picking, but this thought is inspired by the old All Quiet on The Western Front (good film btw). Also one anecdotal evidence that's shaky at best, veteran older cousin once said, "There's no home like the frontlines. I wish I could go back there. Better than being here (family gathering)." Could just be a joke from him, but uh, yeah. That's the best I got.

[@ImSleep-o-]

8:22 I'm going to say this here because I know somebody will continue the actual trend SMASH the creature that's in the actual photo

[@CGomm-le7gv]

Look it up nope the backrooms not a Scp,are you going to watch grimjack what her name a girl he finished it (i can't remember the full name of the anime you know it the one were the boy she like believes she a dude ),also going to put ghoulinfuschia murder drones still

[@matthewdougherty1159]

🤔🤣 by this same logic Labyrinth 1986 with David Bowie could be a Liminal Space movie.

[@Kodaemon]

If you'd never seen Possession, do. At least if you like spooky stuff.

[@Kodaemon]

Oh and Airier; sorry bro, really, but: 'This is not for you.' XD

[@filten1132]

19:00 that hi i'm poul comes from the end cradits of ecery Jimmy netron episode

[@ethanshort1192]

You should watch wendigoons videos on stuff like this. Just ask, and I'll give a recommendation

[@HobGungan]

His deep dive on Blood Meridian really helped me appreciate that work without subjecting myself to the gorey details or McCarthy's war on punctuation.

[@thenon-jewishzander9549]

1:12 what’s up with his left eye?

[@VooshSpokesman]

Love from a KanePixels and Vaush fan!

[@connorcoker5112]

The genre you’re thinking of is ergodic literature not speculative.

[@ZONALH]

The backrooms is similar to the scp foundation they have a whole wiki like scp werw they make levels and creatures with there own group like the scp foundation.. Aka M.E.G.

[@ZONALH]

Pixels found footage ended up causing a mixup of his lore and the OG wiki lore

[@ZONALH]

And no scp and the backrooms arent connected