BACKSCENES USING FORCED PERSPECTIVE

[@ianleyburn4048]

A great video John, not only because it provides us with an update of progress on the layout but also due to it being an excellent tutorial. Thanks very much indeed. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this important part of Piccadilly develops during the coming days and weeks. Thanks again, best wishes, Ian

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thanks Ian, I am having to space out the videos abit as Ive got some special vids I might have to do, but got to start work soon and time will be dramatically reduced. So I saying one video on either channel, 1 or the other, poss two if i can manage it.

[@gordonmcillroy455]

Its an art lesson and a model building video all combined. I never did art at school so tips on how effects are achieved is a great help. Another good one John thanks

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thanks Gordon, I did have a drawing section to the video in the original version, but it was not well received so I removed it. I do think the explanation of the perspective was compromised but glad it was helpful

[@gordonmcillroy455]

@@piccadillymodelrailways Bit mean spirited of them! Maybe you should start another Chanel giving art lessons for modellers. As if you havent got enough to do.LOL

[@jolliemark6294]

Great explanation of prospective...thanks for sharing....Jack 👍

[@barclaylower]

Looking great

[@Chandwell]

Having a sneaky re-watch of this, in preparation for the Station End of Chandwell! :)

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Lol, enjoy

[@alwhiteland6229]

I do enjoy watching your artistic approach to modelling. Basically as modellers we’re ‘painting’ in 3D so many of the same principles apply. As someone currently doing an arts degree this is all fascinating stuff. 👍🏻

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thx Al and yes you are so right modelling painting in 3D. The degree of bought items helps but ultimately if something is quite right we mod it or start from scratch.

[@stephenriley9084]

Nicely done, John. Regards Stephen.

[@medwaypeninsulaMR]

Hi John - That was very informative and I now know what Forced Prospective is ,,,,,,,,,Cheers Kev

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thanks Kev glad your found it helpful

[@moorlandmodelrailwayandy]

Another excellent video from the master modeller. Great explanation of the forced prospective. I do like your plan of the canal. Cheers Andy

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thank you Andy, well thats the plan, the reality maybe quite different lol.

[@pauldering195]

A great lesson in deception... as far as the eye can see!

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Ha ha ha, its actually a deception that Im a teacher, I actually work for MI5, and my real name is Bond.... lol

[@johnnyz3354]

@@piccadillymodelrailways Well John from the amount of card you use you could be Basildon Bond! :-)

[@Mr60059]

Hi John , Ah now that is clever . Linking the two sections ( New Mills and Picadilly !!! ) Must admit though i never have noticed that there is a Drop from the station at New mills . I have noticed loads of mills round that area and canals . I do like the idea of forced perspective . Take care bud see you same time next week !

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thanks Andrew, I know I live a long way away but have tried to find every pic of new Mills railway I can find as I want the layout to be as close as compromise allows. Thankyou for taking the time to comment.

[@robertstrainset6556]

Hi John, Cheers for all your efforts to get viewers on my stream last night I have also thanked both Allan and Rachel and I was only sorry that if you thought the layout was looking a bit dark that was some idiot (me) forgot to turn the rest of the lights on so only 1 florescent one doing all that layout reminded me of a bad DAVESTRAINS video but stream still seemed to go well, as for this video as I have said before you are setting new standards for backscenes and flat for proper modelers will now never be flat so looking forward to seeing you continue with it and seeing the super final creation as always keep well and safe. Cheers Robert.

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thanks Robert, Always pleased to help and think the stream last night had your highest number of people so far, good for you. That was partly as you chose Sunday evening, great time to stream, Friday evenings also, but latter is very popular. Dark, no, we would have said honestly. Lighting was fine. Bound to get someone who’s not happy, but all went very well. You might want to think about 2-3 people to be moderators as they will look out for trolls and those trying to disrupt, then report / remove them.

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thankyou Robert I wasnt asking, but am happy to do it for you, its just you cant do everything and run the stream, your trains and chat too. Not sure whether you can see chat from the last stream or whether you have to do it in the next, but click on the name and there should be an option to make a moderator. They have ‘administrator’ rights to ‘police’ the chat just incase, a regular visitor cannot delete comments or eject troublemakers etc. Everything is fine most of the time but best be prepared.

[@robertstrainset6556]

@@piccadillymodelrailways Hi John, You are my moderator thank you keep well and safe. Cheers Robert.

[@wendys3482]

Hi John! I just thought I'd pop by, say hello and have a quick nose at your channel following on from our jocular banter on Paul's live stream. Very impressed with your backscene and your tips on perspective, so I've now subscribed. See you Friday, in a virtual kind of way, so we can both give Paul some more lip, lol! Take care and stay safe, Wendy

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Ahhhhh bless you Wendy thankyou. Yes I do enjoy Paul’s painting streams, and now we are having fun along the way too. I’m guessing people there actually visit the gallery and partake in painting lessons. Do you post your paintings on line, I’d love to see, I do more model making these days, but very occasionally may actually produce a painting.

[@wendys3482]

@@piccadillymodelrailways good morning John. Yes, Paul has to put up with me at one of his classes, or should that be the other way round, lol. Seriously though, he's a great teacher and a lot of fun. Thank you for being interested to see my paintings, feel free to have a look on my Instagram page Wendy.salmon.24 or send me a friend request on my fb page (my profile pic is a charcoal bald eagle head). I'd be interested to see your paintings too.

[@UKRailsandMore]

Fascinating stuff re the perspective John, never realised there was so much to it. All the best, Paul

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Hi Paul, it depends on the back scene chosen. Most printers use ‘straight on’ images where you can’t really see sides of buildings. However if the sides are obvious our relief buildings should follow otherwise they look odd. I’ll show more when I make the office blocks

[@HumancityJunction]

I do not see a lot of videos about forced perspective in model railroading, but it could be a huge part of our builds. I am thinking about picking up some Z scale trains that match one of my N scale trains. I want the N scale to go into a tunnel and have the same train in Z scale com out, so it looks much further away.

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Yes that will do it. Rons trains and things did a video on forced perspective

[@normanrowe2831]

Hello John, my father was an instrumentation design specialist for Lockheed, hence s huge background as a draughtsman. My mother was an artist. Her favorite medium was oil paint. So.....I understand vanishing lines and forced perspective. They are wonderful helpers when drawing/painting/modeling. But, forced perspective can get tricky if it’s off even just a little. John you did a great job in your explanation. I look forward to your next episode. See ya.

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thanks Norman,

[@GWRailFan]

hmmm, youtube not warning me of an update video on this channel, how odd, time to turn the bell on haha, i do like that, looks very tricky and annoying to get right, but once done can look really good.

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thank you, yes the bell does help, but still no guarantees, YT technology is sadly not perfect. Tricky? Maybe. Annoying? It depends on the person I quite enjoyed doing it.

[@GWRailFan]

@@piccadillymodelrailways haha i may try it on my layout, fingers crossed haha

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

It works when you got buildings going away from you and you can see the side. Follow these lines on couple of buildings which will give you a rough idea where vanishing point is. Alternatively simply place smaller buildings, figures, vehicles towards the back

[@leilacentral1883]

Forced perspective is something when done right looks brilliant. I’ll be giving it a go when the time comes and really enjoyed watching this. Lots learned. Clint

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thanks Clint. As long as the edges that go away from you, into the distance, go to the same vanishing point it should look great. Ive got some relief office blocks so will do more in the next video. I agree, as someone said model railways is a bit like a 3D painting.

[@TRAMJUNCTION7147HG]

Your experience as a teacher and a good modeller shows through in this instructive video John. Well done. Regards Geoff

[@alexhill9169]

Looking good John, coming along nice that area. Forced perspective is not something I've tried but the way you described it makes it not look too difficult. Alex

[@Chandwell]

Hi John... I reference this video (in a good way!) in my next video. Would it be OK if I included a ten second clip of the opening titles without sound in the top corner of my video, or would you prefer I didn’t?

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Hi yes do, always ready to share, maybe drop channel link into your description if that’s ok

[@Chandwell]

@@piccadillymodelrailways Thank you! Of course! :)

[@DarkLord8888]

Hi John, Loving how the back scenery is coming along and the persective tricks you are using. There is a real feel of depth and character to area, not to mention that the factory building you were working on looks far better than the enbankment that was there. I love the idea of the canal as well! that would provide another point of interest and something typical of the area. I think this could be another great scene on Piccadilly. Keep you the fantastic work you are doing & looking forward to the next video!! Cheers for now, Derek

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Thank you Derek, and as the previous scene of the new mills bridge over the River Goyt, the new canal should help to replace that.

[@Elvenhome]

Fascinating stuff John. I've seen false perspective used on other layouts but never had it explained so clearly before. The overall effect is very good indeed. Looking forward to the next stage in this part of the build. Stephen

[@banggotyoujunctioncarlbraund]

Like the way the layout is going, intrested in seeing how the cannal is going to work. So have fun.

[@penjunction]

Is the canal going to be a bit like the one near new mills

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Hmmmmmmm not sure, probably not. This middle area is a link zone between NM & Piccadilly station. Thank you fir taking the time to comment