Backyard PTMP

[@mikesenesouk531]

I really like these kinds of videos. You should do more like it.

[@Chris-gt7ob]

This was awesome. I love that you did a real world consumer level type setup here. I love watching the commercial install videos, but at the end of the day, I'm just an average consumer. Good stuff here. Thanks!

[@TheMarkFerron6]

This is perfect. I need to setup a few security cameras on some poles in a parking lot, and I was wondering what UniFi equipment I needed. Please more videos like these, love em.

[@StarWarsCosplay]

Hey Chris, I'm moving house soon and this video has just helped me lots. Thanks so much for making these.

[@augurseer]

I'm a simple need. I see cross talk. I see Chris. I click.

[@CrosstalkSolutions]

I see your comment. I like.

[@stephencleaves]

This is exactly the sort of scenario I was looking to set-up for myself, many thanks for the excellent video and tips, much appreciated !

[@a.j.8926]

Me too. did you set it up yet? I am going to build a barn and this would be WAY easier than trenching fiber or CAT6

[@SimonLally1975]

thank you this explains a lot for people to understand what is possible for the price point. well done and keep up the good work. :)

[@trick0502]

I like this video idea. Give you a scenario and pick out the hardware. This could get fun!

[@Orinthical]

:thumbsup: I also like the Litebeam and have used it in the past. I'd probably use the ~$49 Nanostation AC locos for the client side then keep the AC-lites as APs in the shop and RV. Maybe put an AC-LR/PRO AP in the house. I prefer the Wilson 901117 (on Amazon) mounts over the Ubiquiti ones because they allow for a more flush install appearance. Great video and idea as always, Chris!

[@DirkdeJager73]

I would go for the following Main: LAP 120 connected via a surgeprotector to main router. Shop: Nanobeam Gen2 connected via a surgeprotector to an Aircube AC. This also enables hooking up wired devices in the shop. Camper: either a Nanobeam Gen2 or a Nanostation Loco 5AC connected via a surgeprotector to an Aircube ISP. Rational behind the latter choice is that power in a camper can come at a premium. The Aircube can be powered via USB when on vacation, and has power enough to punch through the plywood inside the camper. If 2.4 GHz is not preferred you can upgrade to an Aircube AC.

[@a.j.8926]

thank you. I am on going to set up the same thing. I always look for CrossTalk solutions videos before a project.

[@miketel01]

Great video Chris. Honestly to save money, I’d run the LAP and Nono station between house and shop with a AP pro in the shop. Run an Ethernet cable from the shop to the camper and put an AC lite AP in the camper. Brings the cost and install down quite a bit.

[@rafaelbs4832]

I did a setup just like that, with 4 used (cheeeap) loco m5, one as AP, and the other 3 as stations, and cheap TP-link routers, works just perfect, surelly you can go at 1km range without problem.

[@CrosstalkSolutions]

Yes - 1km should be no problem.

[@prockap1]

I have semi similar situation however I only have one other point that I want WiFi at. I have used two AC Pro AP's one at my house one at my barn. At the barn I have a ethernet running from that AP to my 8port POE switch. I then have 4 camera's that are spread throughout my barn that communicate back to my house through this and I can also use WiFi while in the barn and on most of my property around the barn for that matter. It works wonderfully.

[@taisan7928]

one solution thou is a Ubiquiti loco m900mhz. this is if you cant get away with tree obstructions. they are good devices for this type of tree obstruction scenarios

[@HtopSkills]

Happy Thursday everyone!

[@donaldshockley4116]

I would like to see a video for the home user tech geek geared around upgrading from the typical all-in-one router-modem-wifi to the more dedicated Unifi individual pieces. I've started some prep work by making room for a rack mount and adding conduits to make future cabling easier. I've also added an NAS to start working on improving backups and start with Plex. But even if I'm picking the right Unifi parts, it's a big bite to create a whole setup from scratch. I'd really like to see how to maybe do it in pieces over a year or so and what's the best order. Or do I just have to bite the bullet. The sheer number of options and possible methods have me turning in circles so far.

[@looseycanon]

Chriss, this is not overkil... going 24Ghz is overkill :D Anyway. He doesn't need surge protector for the camper, as long as it remains inside the camper and uses window mount. If placed on or near a window, he won't have problems getting signal through and have his camper work as faraday cage. I'm running NanoStation M5 > NanoBridge M5 ptp bridge, both devices placed inside buildings with some pretty thick wall betwene them and I get usable connection (as long as it doesn't get too hot outside). The wall I'm talking about is about a meter thick brick wall. So outside mounted access point and indoor mounted client should work fine.

[@hhernandeza06]

For the basic I agree with the setup. For the overkill i would have gone with the nananostation ac loco instead of the nanobeam ac gen 2 Cheers.

[@hockeymst55]

Awesome video, really enjoyed it!

[@lennoxwaldassen1499]

hi Backyard Thank you for the time u are taking to make this kind of videos for us I APPRECIATE ! question : can i connect my wireles home devices like tablet smarphone laptop STRAIGHT ON THE PTMP WIFI ANTENNA ??? and have a ''good'' signal in the house knowing that this antenna is an OUTDOOR type ???

[@webluke]

LiteBeam-GPS ($120) + 2x NanoStation-AC-Loco-5Ghz ($47+$47) + 3x Universal J-Arm ($20+$20+$20) + 3x Grounding ($12+$12+$12) + 2x Uinifi UAP-AC-LR ($97+$97) == $507 From Amazon. That puts you in the middle of Chris's 2 options but you would be all AC, you could get back to the $450 range by going with the UAP-AC-Lite and be happy. Ether LiteBeam model would work too as they are the same price and the distance is so small. If these are not high up and lower than the roof line you could skip grounding the line because it should hit your roof or trees long before it would hit the plastic PTP/PTMP. If you get the NanoStation AC (none loco) for a little more ($117) it comes with a POE injector and the bridged port that could run the local access point on the remote sides.

[@heinrichgeldenhuys7335]

Would it be possible to mesh 2 or perhaps 3 Ubiquiti Lite AP AC poits together so that each of these sectors can still serve a few nanobeams (4 or 5) per sector @20mbps symmetrical? Thanks Chris for the videos and advice! (it would be an slightly larger site, almost rectangular (rougly 400m by 120m) with trees at random but there are a few creative line of sight spots where if I place a sector and I should be in line of sight of another sector, but that sector would be in better lighn of sight with some properties than the first sector and so forth. Our problem is the 2 ghz spectrum is extremely saturated here but the 5ghz seems to very clear.)

[@Sonjelakaymwen]

Thanks for this video! How would I go about having the barn on vlan1, camper on vlan2 with 1 base station ?

[@GNiessen]

My question is why go with the M5 rather than the M2? 2.4GHz is more tolerant of obstructions (trees/branches/leafs). And do you really need the bandwidth if you are going to be throttled by Xfinity anyway (unless you have fiber going to the main house).

[@nicholaslacovara2381]

You could put the M5 on the shop, a nano beam on the house and RV and thereby avoid the trees. The Ethernet doesn’t care which end is connected to the internet.

[@kennytieshisshoes]

I would probably swap out the AP with an HD since it has better and more even coverage. Its also difficult to say what to put in the garage and camper. The camper you could be dealing with kitchen equipment and obviously a lot of metal. The garage could also have a lot of interference. Either way I would start out by setting the power level to low.

[@BillSands2112]

excellent video and yes more like this

[@pierrebeauregard5369]

id rent a digging tool and burry some cat6 and or fiber

[@jonmoore1614]

yea, depending on the run length, that makes way more sense lol

[@yooogle]

I've seen a video where The 8Bit Guy explained how he did this. His conclusion was that fiber was the best way to go because what ended up happening was when he used copper a lightning storm struck the line and wiped out half his network. With fiber, this wasn't an issue for obvious reasons.

[@rolandmccarthy2931]

Great video!

[@noonecares189]

Off topic: Chris, review the new AXIS A8207-VE intercom. I love mine and and its just so much better then the A8004-VE!

[@meachs13]

What are the real world speedtest differences in the 2 setups? Example I have 400m cable connection. Will I see 100m with 1st setup and 200m with 2nd?

[@ask4boost]

Awesome video!!

[@DocMartinSTL]

with those short distances, would a MESH Solution not work? I have a similar situation. MESH seems feasible. No?

[@dariantel]

i would probably use the Unifi NanoStation AC and AC locos at location 2 and 3. but otherwise absolutely the same setup. several products but the same result.

[@reymundovilla]

I am interested in setting up something like kit #1 but the Nanostation locoM5 (station receivers) do not seem to be in stock anymore. Any chance kit #1 can be updated with comparable equipment

[@dandriekus]

This is the perfect solution I have been looking for, but when used your links to Amazon it appears those production are not available anymore. do you know what the current model of equipment to use with your "OverKill" option?

[@jayf9259]

Chris, you are awesome and your videos are awesome, but the first scenario won't work exactly as shown because neither the Loco or the Nanobeam has a second ethernet port AND the two ports on the ETH-SP will be used up just for the station alone. So wouldn't you have to use ALL NS-M5's or Nanobeam Pro's?

[@MehranJabbari]

Chris is there anyway to power the NanoBeams off of a battery? I’m in a similar situation but I don’t have power in any of those areas. What and how would you suggest to power the nanobeams if the presence of power (AC) isn’t available?

[@joevilla2216]

Chris Would you consider reviewing more of the point to point solutions like the Rocket 5AC Prism Gen2? I am interested getting rid of a second internet connection at a location. However the second location has larger number of users.

[@mwils51]

You probably don't need the rocket for a single PTP unless it is a great distance. As long as you can get a good line of site and a decent signal, the nanostation 5ac or even loco should be fine. I have used the nanostations for links as long as 3 miles with LOS. I have even used nanostations in PTMP setups with an AP and several stations. Now if you need a single PTMP AP with like 30 separate stations, then you might need a rocket for the AP only.

[@Klementoso]

Would you still pick the AC Pro over the nanoHD? I’ve grown to really like the nanoHD, just outright faster and more available accessories. They are more expensive though, but it’s in the overkill scenario anyway.

[@michaelwatson5703]

Great tutorial, but why not use a mesh setup with the AC Mesh AP? Seems like that would lower the amount of hardware needed, and give plenty of broadcast coverage... Thoughts?

[@swod1]

Also, what is the difference between UAP-AC-Pro and a regular router?

[@James-cn9no]

Do you also need a router connected at each end? Or does this hardware pickup the house wifi and broadcast that to the hardware at the other ends?

[@jacksummers1736]

I’ve done hundreds of this type farm/home setup. If UniFi isn’t used just go with (airCube AC $79) or (airCube ISP $29) in the shop and trailer.

[@rudolphbeschererjr]

Since you mentioned the surge protector, do we have any objective testing of the second generation units? I just deployed a UniFi system for our church after a lightning strike presumably came in through an unprotected buried Ethernet cable and destroyed the entire Cisco network backbone. We still have the same vulnerability, as the equipment at the other end of the buried cable requires internet access, although now we are using a surge protector on that Ethernet cable.

[@rudolphbeschererjr]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4O7dKJ8ipaAh68 for the reason why I have installed other Ethernet surge suppressors. I am happy with the UniFi product line otherwise, except for the discontinuation of the Security Gateway XG as many people will need >250 mbps routing with a firewall and the USG Pro 4 with IDS/IPS is not rated beyond this.

[@mrmotofy]

For a more critical situation like that Fiber is a good solution. There's cheap switches that can connect to it with SFP or SFP+ or a media converter. Long runs of copper in the ground is a big antenna to get zapped and carry current. At a minimum use Sheilded cable, connectors and the ground box he mentioned.

[@IHeart8Ball]

We finally got internet a few months ago. It is 2.4GHz. I am quite ignorant, but have an extremely similar layout to the one described, except the camper is another building. In my ignorance, I have two questions: what is meant by upgrading to AC for the second equipment list? The LiteAP AC is 5GHz. Does it work with 2.4GHz? And the second question (now third?) concerns the comment "of course you would also need some sort of unified controller..." I don't even know what that means... Can anyone help?

[@ohno783]

Just run 200’ of direct burial cat 6 and a unifi AC AP Mesh in between both locations and call it a day. I did that for my back yard and cost me less than $200

[@mwils51]

The shovel to bury it would leave me with $1000s in back repair.

[@Joncorvin]

What about 3 - NanoStation 5AC locos and 2 - airCube ISP's? That would keep his cost low around $210 plus tax and shipping.

[@CrosstalkSolutions]

Aircubes are a good option!

[@mybluemars]

"Hello Chris, my name is Dave". Yeah yeah, likely story!

[@byehl]

Why does (seemingly) everyone default to the ancient M5 gear? NanoStation 5AC loco is $49 MSRP. By the prices Chris is showing it would actually be a bit cheaper to deploy 2x NS 5AC loco + LAP-120 than to deploy the M5 gear.

[@CrosstalkSolutions]

Believe it or not, I have better experiences with the older equipment.

[@jasonthompson3326]

Hey Chris. This is sort of similar to what I want to do, but for an entirely different reason. I have a rather large Christmas light display and I have 6 homes that want to join in for this year. Only one of these homes can I connect directly to with a 100ft ethernet connection. The other homes are mostly close by (across street), 2 of which are the farthest away at about 300ft. I believe all are line of site from my 2nd story. Here is the question. I am completely new to Ubiquiti so please pardon my ignorance if this is a dumb question. If I purchased the LAPAC or the M5 and mounted to my home, could I run some raspberry pi's at the locations and connect to my house? Concerned mostly about lag here. Or would I really need to go with your suggested M5/M5 loco setup? The raspberry pis are nice bc I have boards that attach to them to run lights.

[@shaibannatha795]

Instead of nanobeam what if you put Loco as a CPE?

[@traumagas123]

Thats A Great Video, What set up do I need to do ? I would Be able to mount and run Lines However the Presetup on the Lap top is what I am Not able to do. I would very much Be interested in Buying Plug an Play.

[@CrosstalkSolutions]

Check out my other PTMP videos for setup info!

[@anthonyprato4369]

I was wondering if you have any favorite ways to connect multiple exterior runs to ground or would you just buy a bunch ETH-SP-G2's?

[@HDuerer]

If the camper is just 25 yards from the shop, can't it get the wi-fi from the shop? Having a second endpoint there seems overkill.

[@samuelhulme8347]

I would just wire Ethernet lol

[@waltherstolzing9719]

I wonder if cabling is at all an option.

[@michaelwatson5703]

Walther, only if they plan on digging underneath concrete...

[@KerrickLong]

This is such a great video, thank you! What would you do if the distances were more like 300 yards instead?

[@kerrynorthway8379]

easily go 1000 yards or more with line of sight! I have two installs over a mile with nanostation m2 and m5s

[@danalcantara6785]

there a cheaper option which i used currently, use a nanostaion loco m2 its only 2600php make it a point to multipoint set up. use a loco m2 as a AP and the other device as a station bridge. much cheaper and much resilent to obstruction.

[@mattcaz]

I would use power line networking. If everything is on the same leg. I did this with a mouse infested shed for a security camera. The power is all in steel conduit.

[@mikeblanchetti8332]

Would two NS-5ACL-US's work with the LAP-120 in this scenario?

[@CrosstalkSolutions]

Yes.

[@Eagle269Ubet]

Thank you Chris for all your videos, I just setup 2 nanostations loco m2 and they are about half a mile apart. Would I be getting better signal with the m5’s or are the m2’s good enough?

[@CrosstalkSolutions]

Depends on whether you’re getting enough throughout with the locoM2’s. If they’re working well for you, why replace them?

[@mrmotofy]

Nanobeam Gen 2 should be nearing 1Gb between them. The loco M2 or M5 only have 100Mb Lan port so they max out there at best

[@brianjamesmascarinas8939]

Hi chris, thanks for this awesome video. I have a question. How about setting up a PTMP or point to point with no line of sight? i mean its a long distance, like 30 to 50 km away. What unifi model am i going to use. Thanks in advance.

[@emsservices6090]

No line of sight ? - at that distance, nothing will work. You need to look at alternatives like fibre or big towers

[@mrmotofy]

Towers and AirFiber maybe. The earth curvature is a real issue at that distance

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

Would a Huawei B331 LTE 4G Router and Huawei B331 antenna do the same thing that he is trying to do.

[@portwolf2293]

Hmm, noticed you didn't show these going into a unifi switch or a power source? Wouldn't it be ideal to connect these via poe switch to provide access to wired ports as well if a device doesn't have wireless capability?

[@Harrypm3]

That would be a good idea but it would not be cost-effective to have three Switch 8 60W units for such a minimal setup and it add more complication for somebody who is not as well versed in Ubiquiti as us.

[@swod1]

Awesome video, thank you! When would you need a rocket?

[@scottcook6912]

My solution: Just run a piece of CAT5 across the ground to the shop from the house. If you want to get fancy you can put your CAT5 into a piece of Charlotte pipe and bury it in the ground. Crosstalk's solution is very cool and well thought out, but because this is a temporary setup what is the customer going to do with all that equipment after he moves back into his house? Budget: $50 for cable and ends, $50 for pipe, labor no charge, time to setup wifi equipment zero, reliability is 100%.

[@mattcaz]

I was thinking the same thing. Wires are the way to go.

[@mrmotofy]

But there's the whole copper in the ground absorbing lightening/static charges zapping equipment thing

[@tycoonbob]

Wouldn't the NanoStation AC be a better choice than the M5?

[@moretech3489]

Can Possible Conect powerbeam M5 station To Mikrotik AccessPoint ??

[@hewson72ify]

Would setting up multiple mesh devices, like uap-ac-m or uap-ac-m-pro, work?

[@looseycanon]

Sure, it would be a good chocie, however, if money were bigger concern than usual and assuming he doesn't have his cloud key or free device for the controller, going with Nano series APs is better, because of self hosted UI on the devices, allowing smoother integration with third_party/legacy gear.

[@hewson72ify]

@@looseycanon thank you

[@i81fish2]

How about when the multi-points are like 150 degrees apart?

[@kerrynorthway8379]

Use two rockets with sector antennas or just make to networks, use two nanostations, set the SSID on one pair to a different SSID than the other pair and make sure you have a good spread on the frequencies. Connect the two APs together via a switch and connect your Internet feed to the same switch. Two point to point networks, rather than one point to multi point. Having said all that, if you have line of sight and are not a long ways away, you will be fine at 150 degrees. You will loose some throughput, but it will likely work. You can also use an omni directional radio and a rocket for the AP. A lot of ways to do it.

[@criptoportugal]

I will use ethernet cables 😆

[@mrmotofy]

Generally a good idea...till a lightning storm and that copper wire in the ground is a big antenna absorbing and taking out your whole network and everything attached to it. These days I would run a fiber cable with either a switch or converter at the end.

[@criptoportugal]

Fiber works too 👍🌟🌟🌟

[@KowboyUSA]

Being a hillbilly kinda guy, I'd probably just grab the crimp tool and connectors, then dig that big spool of Cat cable out of my junk closet.

[@bartman0023]

Great video I check on the shop if the wifi can reach the truck in order to save one link thanks for share

[@alas493]

Hi Christ, I want to get an affiliate like to buy LAP 120 and nano beam gen 2, am a real-time follower, also made a lot of progress after watching your videos, I was just a dropout from CCNA curse but leaned a lot from crosstalk solutions, thanks for everything…

[@alas493]

I forgot to mention am a network admin doing some hotspot small business in The Gambia west Africa….

[@babilosph]

the discord link has expired, can i have an invite?

[@Felix-ve9hs]

If I had the Money my WiFi coverage wouldn't be a Problem - but you can't help me with that 😁

[@CodyMetal]

2:28 I'll never understand people who take photos of a screen instead of a screenshot.

[@mrmotofy]

He was a self described Non Tech person that simply doesn't know. I bet there's lots of keyboard shortcuts you don't know...we all have our knowledge base

[@cctvandnetworkingtechnical]

Nice

[@WeSRT4]

He could easily ground the station with a ground rod.

[@H4zuZazu]

Do you know a Wi-Fi AC where it is possible to daisy-chain them, so you need to use only one Ethernet connection?

[@MikeHarris1984]

Second!

[@berndn.924]

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[@CrosstalkSolutions]

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