Bad CGI? | Animation Analysis: Chainsaw Man Episode 1 (+Opening)

[@studiovoxx3051]

Man, you have my whole respect when it comes to discussing the broader fandom's expectations for cgi in shows and how they always compare it on ufotable. Mappa's cgi has perfected the ACTUAL blending of cgi and 2d, which is insane and outstanding by Japanese anime standards. Ufotable contains an uncanny valley where you can tell if a character is CG or not. However, mappa has managed to combine the two. Simply pausing a frame of one of their works may make the cgi appear to be a totally 2d artwork, we can thank their experience and usage of different techniques.

[@wind1574]

"Ufotable contains an uncanny valley where you can tell if a character is CG or not" Just like Mappa. Everyone notices their cgi, whether here or in SnK. People always notice it.

[@woshinideaihao]

@@wind1574 Exactly, csm fans are strange

[@RenderingUser]

wait what? its the opposite for me I don't think I've really seen any cgi in ufotable but i immediately notice every single moment that denji becomes cgi

[@andrecostafranca]

@@RenderingUser Man, stop licking ufotable's balls, holy christ. Every single fucking shot of tanjiro at distance is CGI in demon slayer (and a pretty ugly one). And that's just scratching the surface, because have you seen the tentacles in Mugen Train???? Holy shit.

[@andrecostafranca]

@@wind1574 Yes, you both are right. If you have a trained eye, you can spot most of the cg in any anime. The difference is that most anime you can tell it's cg, even when the character design on the show is simple enough to be confunded with cg, and Chainsaw Man has A LOT of shots that you just can't tell if it's CG or not. It's to the point where people see CG where it doesn't even exist, because they just want to criticize the anime to get attention. I can watch any anime and tell the scenes that are cg and the scenes that aren't, but this just doesn't happen with Chainsaw Man most of the time. It's undoubtly the next gen anime.

[@markomaksimovic7678]

When I saw Tam Lu's cut in the opening I legit mistook him for Keiichiro Watanabe. When I looked it up on Sakugabooru I was like WOAH, my man leveled up since Castlevania. I do hope he returns for the sequel, it just wouldn't be the same without him.

[@-MankoMan]

Ye he's been doing twitter animations to master his no line-work animation style, and now he's more than perfected it. The dude is also extremely humble. If I were as talented as him I'd monetize the shit out of my animations. Webgen animation truly was the right course for the industry.

[@-MankoMan]

Sorry about the construction noise in the latter portion of the video. Next time I'll try to avoid making videos when construction is going on, which is always, so IDK what I'll do really.

[@garrison676]

How do you know so much about animation

[@-MankoMan]

@@garrison676 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2K3k2R5i8eebdU watch from 4:06. Or if you want watch the whole video :)

[@nazispy4537]

Most people have no idea how cgi works or how scenes get exponentially harder to animate when there is more detail. They just think cgi=lazy. Thanks for going into such detail with this episode.

[@nehh_aksat]

Honestly, this was a perfect episode. Even the things that you nitpicked were just glorious to watch. Overall, 10/10 for animation and also 10/10 for CGI. The CGI was soo heavy and realistic. Perfect episode. Overall, 10/10

[@alexeybalshoi2455]

what an echo chamber we have here, it was garbage lmfao. you also a poojeet?

[@davidiobrando]

Damn, this guy deserves to have much more subscribers... very very intertaining. I'll definitely be coming back every week for CSM episodes

[@lmb1563]

I feel like people only have a problem when mappa uses cgi, ufotable uses cgi in fate and ds no one says a thing bleach uses cgi for its hollows nthn, mappa uses cgi everyone goes crazy. It’s like they have a agenda against them or smthn

[@xenzzyyx2164]

I think the point why nobody is saying that ufotable uses CGI in Fate and Demon Slayer is that it look really really good and is about the best in the industries I would say. ufotable is not without a reason my favorite Animation studio of all time. Love there works but even ufotable has sometimes flaws with there CGI. The more funnier thing is that a lot of people are saying how good MAPPA animated CSM and how god tier it is, but without the knowledge that 90% of the animation was done by freelancer.

[@tater8960]

@@xenzzyyx2164 bro almost all of the sakuga in any show except ufotable shows is done by freelancers. sakuga is rarely ever done inhouse. u dont really understand how the industry works if u have a view like this

[@xenzzyyx2164]

@tater8960 Yeah, I know this. There are a lot of freelancers that are working on shows. Nevertheless, ufotable uses less much of freelancers than MAPPA or other studios. Their entire 3DCI departement is done in-house. Look at the Demon Slayer season 3 show. 80% of it was done in-house. Their even used much less help from other studios, and it has much less outsourcing than season 2 had.

[@tater8960]

@@xenzzyyx2164 excatly what im saying. ufotable is an exception. u are literally discrediting every single studio outside of ufotable when u say "this studio isnt even good its just freelancers". yes my friend, we all know that freelancers are the ones who make practically every sakuga moment for shows except in ufotables case (and even in their case they sometimes use sfreelancers like with hironori tanakas cut with matsuri). but the point is that u should not completely discredit the studio since they are the ones who have connections with freelancers and call them up to work on their projects. the more connections you have the more freelancers you can employ for cuts.

[@xenzzyyx2164]

@tater8960 I agree with you, bro. I didn't have any intentions to discredit the work of the freelancers. Sorry if I said it in a weird way. My point was that many people are saying MAPPA as a studio is the best without the knowledge that 90% of MAPPA's shows are made by freelancers because the studio itself has very good connections to the veteran animators. Like other studios, too. Look at A-1. The studio itself didn't do the work mostly (maybe the CGI because MAPPA has now a in-house CG studio, but a lot of it is still outsourced). The freelancers should get the credit, not the studio itself. People need to understand that fact. This was my point. I hope you get it how I meant it. ufotable, on the other hand, does a lot of the animation in-house as well, but uses outsourcing if it is needed, and even the outsourcing is not that much. Yes, ufotable have freelancers like Nozomu Abe, and I don't deny this fact. But it is also true that the freelancers are much less used as in other productions from other studios. Also, the staff is treated way better than in other studios. Kyoto Animation is as well a good example of good working conditions, and the productions are done in-house as well and even more than ufotable.

[@sonicsenryaku6205]

The transition between 2d and 3d is quite impressively done here in this first episode through smart editing choices, brillant camera work, and snappy scene transitions, and I only expect things to get even better as we venture into further episodes. Can't wait for some of the Hironori Tanaka cuts we saw in later PV's. Been very much aware of the fact that the adaptation was going to integrate CG into its animation ever since the first PV dropped over a year ago and noticed that the Chainsaw Model had a CG head composited on top a 2d animated frame, which I thought worked there and also worked in the later PV's. *Correction: The chainsaw head in the PV is NOT CG; it's just really a well-animated sequence using complex modeling; holy shit!* Some things to note: Yoshihara's cut where Denji is running through the Zombie horde I'm pretty sure is not a CG head on top of the body. Like you said, one of the giveaways are the detail in the pipe tubes that make Chainsaw Man's neck, but also I noticed the linework sort of morph, indicating the handdrawn touch. The moment where Denji begins slicing through the Zombie devil' intestine as if sliding along it starts with Denji's model in 2d; however, the moment he exits the blood spray effect, his body emerges as the 3D model as Denji continues to plummet towards Zombie. The transition to 3D isn't as he's falling, but upon exiting the blood. You can tell by the rendered outlines of his body. I could be wrong but upon closer look, the evidence seems to support it. The fact that your eyes (and perhaps even mine) can still be fooled by the blend just goes to show how well the animation is handling this synergy. I've always said this: in the same way live-action needs to do a better job marrying practical and CGI effects to achieve a feasible yet immersive production, anime should aim to do the same if it's hell-bent on using CGI in animation. Chainsaw Man might be the beginning in discovering the answer to making CGI models synergize with handdrawn animation. Rather than abandon it the way western animation has been doing with films, anime can work on merging the artstyles if that's what's necessary to keep 2D art alive while being able to make "high-budget" productions attainable. Great vid

[@user-js4dy5of8w]

ちゃんとわかってくれている海外の人がいてくれて嬉しい！❤

[@carloscauan7967]

After years of waiting, I'm more than satisfied with this premiere. Everything about it was fantastic. And even if the CG is there it's far from something that would disappoint me or lower my enjoyment.

[@kelthuzad7]

Wow, the other comments already said it, but this breakdown was as enjoyable as the episode itself. You have the clearest conversational trait, I think you would make a excellant teacher XD. But jokes aside, It just makes me appreciate their work even more. Also 35:34

[@Villain_of_Overhype]

So glad someone else is bringing up the fact that Ufotable aren't the "masters of cgi" as people call them. They're definitely amazing at blending 2D characters into 3D environments, but their full CGI models have always been janky. I also remember the golems in UBW looking weird.

[@lebyandsmartiel318]

Thoroughly enjoyed watching this entire video from the start to finish, the breakdown of CGI was especially well thought out and nuanced. To think we may get a breakdown for each episode has me really excited as you're way of reviewing is engaging and fulfilling to watch. Still amazed that some people found the CGI unbearable or completely detracting from the show, I even saw some people go as far as to stretch their points into confusing various Character Acting scenes as CGI or fully rotoscoped because they were "Too good" or "Too weird". Moreover when the episode first released a lot online took Tatsuya Yoshihara's run cut and Fujimoto's chainsaw cuts as CGI too because of their movement. It feels like a lot of the stuff people are putting out is reactionary and forced in opposition to Chainsaw Man.

[@nehh_aksat]

11:01 PLEASE I BEG YOU TO PLAY *ORI AND THE BLIND FOREST* and especially, its sequel- *Ori ane the Will of the Wisps* It's got one of the most beautiful art directions and 2 animations that I've ever seen. Literally every single frane is wallpaper-worthy and believe me, that's still an understatement The two games are absolute masterpieces in nearly every single aspect, including the incredibly emotional story And I swear that it's twice as better as hollow knights. I really want you to talk just a little bit about these games so I'd really appreciate if you'd just read this comment and heart it🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@emptilion]

I am really surprised the CG is such a shock to so many people. I guess people are expecting a flawless adaption on every front because it's chainsaw man. Full 2D, without any compromises and all that. But idk, MAPPA uses CG quite a bit, and they are adapting something where the main character has 3 chainsaws running at all times while running around fighting devils. CG was inevitable. The only reason something like Mob Psycho can get away with beautiful 2D animation at all times is because the source material is very simple to adapt, and they just went all out with that. So yeah, when I saw the zombie devil fight I was just impressed with what they were able to pull off. I thought it had some of the better CG I have seen in anime. It is certainly no Berserk 2016, and I have seen more jarring CG in Wit's AOT. So if this is what we can expect going forward, I'll be very happy. And I am a huge chainsaw man fan.

[@trixniisama]

As much as I agree with most of your takes and appreciate all the insight you give into this industry, I feel like the problem is you don't understand how people feel about the CGI. That first episode 1 scene looks bad to me and many people. It simply looks off. I'm not trying to say you shouldn't think it's great, you can have your own opinion on the matter and that's perfectly fine, art is a subjective matter, but I simply cannot agree that this is good looking or even "good CGI". That does not warrant any hate for the CM team, but I believe it's entirely valid to criticize this aspect of the show.

[@678kaito]

It has been so long since there has been a premiere which I can give 10/10. There is just something so intriguing about the entire aesthetic and feel of Chainsaw Man's first episode. Like, it's actually rather cartoonish. The storyboard, how the events line up, etc. remind me a lot of comicbook stories and ofc it has absurd concepts as well, but instead of delving into this cartoonish vibe more Nakayama tried to make it like live action - to make it feel alive. And god, it worked so well. Because even if it has cartoonish elements, it's executed so perfectly that it feels alive and realistic. And that makes the overall aesthetic and feel of this show so far unlike anything I've seen so far. It's at the exact border between animation and live action and it boggles me how good it is. Ofc, everything else is perfect too. But there is too much to unpack in this episode anyways. Your analysis showed that - Godly character acting everywhere. I expected CSM to impress me the most with its action, to have such high level character animation all the time caught me off guard. There is so much else to unpack, like the OP, but you already did that wonderfully. What the fuck was this premiere, seriously. I watched it 3 times within 24h + OP and full theme song on loop + rewatching particular scenes over and over.

[@-MankoMan]

I've pretty much re-watched the whole episode frame-by-frame and I still found new stuff while recording, and even now there are cool details in the OP that I'll have to talk about in the next episode's video. Also Nakayama's boards are so unique; the character art in the storyboards look almost like genga without the shading. I guess that's what happens when an action animator draws the storyboards.

[@678kaito]

@@-MankoMan IKR? I thought about posting a staff overview or some short review talking about the production of the episode but there is just so much to unpack. I may even do it later but holy... I was also surprised how good Nakayama's boards are. It's cool to see how much the final product still resembles his boards, and while not being that detailed they're very easy to understand and have a good flow. I wonder how much corrections he did as episode director, probably not much with the staff being this stacked. I hope we'll see some KA from him too in the following episodes, but he's killing it as episode director for sure.

[@1nfernaldrak356]

Either people just don't watch critically or they're just so stubborn to change their minds about the usage of CGI in anime if it's done well. In my personal opinion, I think the mixing of 2D and CGI was fantastic! Especially when he was speeding towards the Zombie Devil and just cuts through the intestine tentacle like Levi.

[@stavborochov1673]

I got downvoted on reddit to hell just because I remarked about how great the transition between 2d and 3d were in this episode. It's baffling how anime fans think they know how animation work without looking into it at all and just are so confidently wrong with what they say. I should move my animation discussion to this channel lol. One thing that I'm interested in is what happened at Mappa that this show was given so much time (it seems atleast) while we all know the awful conditions they had in the past, you also said that this episode was done on very good conditions so I'm interested in what changed.

[@carloscauan7967]

The main reason is that this show doesn't have a production comittee, only MAPPA. Meaning they can get as flexible as possible with their schedule and with how creative they can be with this one as well.

[@-MankoMan]

Pretty much what Carlos said. I talk about studio-production committee dynamics in the first half of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npTHl5WAn9eVnZI Shows like God of highschool and even JJK had no right to look as good as they did; they were entirely carried by director Sunghoo Park and his connections. Now imagine those same connections, but now with the animation team making the decisions about production schedules, animator recruitment etc. That's why chainsaw man looks this good.

[@tylersiegfried8222]

On the opposite end, I actually really liked Cyperpunk Edgerunner's OP because of how simple most of it was. Also probably because Im a sucker for 2000s rock

[@SenseofNoneYT]

Damn, somebody pointed out that most action anime is devoid of character acting. Everybody talking about the CGI in CSM and I was sakugasming all over the character animations. And I also went on to analyze the action sequence and it just disappointed me that a lot of people could not recognize how much of it was phenomenal 2D animation. They did not cut corners with animation and direction. They did 2D as much as possible. Great analysis! I always think, if you can find someone who can nonchalantly animate a slow CSM head turn and I can tell you this animator one of the OGs like Inoue-sensei. Unfortunately, he's a genius and we are but mere monkeys in terms of consistent animation. Also, the more people think it's mostly 3D, the more I think they did a good job in mixing them between cuts and in the same cuts. Like, I'm honestly blown away by how much of the zombies they animated in 2D. They did a lot more than I expected.

[@oh2075]

Yeah! They even released the Key Animation/Genga, and most of the cuts were 2D.

[@Mothra-wc2nl]

I absolutely loved this video! extremely nice to have somebody go almost shot for shot in an episode and explain the animation, big props to you for this vid.

[@tianqidgls4405]

Simply put, dude, you are amazing at braking down animations.

[@nehh_aksat]

THE WAIT IS FINALLY OVER. THE KING IS BACK 🔥

[@blumae1170]

Yoo this is amazing, people who claim cgi=bad, especially now with csm out, needs to see this. I've always wanted to see a vid analysing cgi or animation in general for anime since most people who watches anime don't really know what they're talking about, but will tge sane people who will claim and judge the animation as good or bad without any or small knowledge about it.

[@chapri_from_chapra5443]

18:45 The reference is from the movie Attack of the Killer Tomatoes and they put a poster of the Tomato Devil that denji killed. 😂😂

[@Soulkinthehuman]

I was wondering if you think that Mappa will use the same CGI techniques for the next part of AoT that they used in CSM

[@initialdosth8221]

Nah aot still look trash compared to csm

[@A1000-b9s]

@@initialdosth8221 it's unfair because AOT had a lot worse schedule. And it's far from shit bro

[@crackracing7900]

Dude,loved this video,your passion for animation shows through every second! As someone who's not really a sakugahead, I'm glad I got to learn so many little details about the premiere of one of my favourite mangas ever. The amount of talented people working on the first episode alone is insane,truly. I'm glad a lot of people are actually being reasonable about the CGI,given how impressive it is all throught. So many jumped to the conclusion that the chainsaw man form was gonna be all 3D,when it was CLEARLY not the case if you had just watched the trailers for the upcoming fights! And even when it IS 3D,it really is seamlessly mixed with 2D...honestly not even that last "janky" cut of Denji looking around and killing the zombies took me out of the scene,which just speaks of how good the "mediocre" parts are! I'm glad that any of the worries I had before the series started were put to rest. If there is one thing that DID look kinda weird for me,I'd probably go with the way the actual chainsaws are animated in that first shot of Denji coming out of the zombie pile; I think they said they simulated their movement by overlapping two different models,or something along those lines,and it does end up looking a bit stiff,so it dampens the reveal a tad,but that's really nitpicking an otherwise masterful 20+ episode. Since you've never read chainsaw man before,hope you're read for an incredible journey! I honestly can't wait to see how MAPPA will bring their A game for the stuff that will be covered in season 2 or the movie,because Fujimoto's ride only rises in spectacle,emotional climaxes and highly detailed artwork as it goes on.

[@Tanawindinn]

Rarely can you find a man who speaks pure facts. But I managed to.

[@deadsoon]

Thank you for actually defending CGI for once. I keep seeing the same take being regurgitated over and over, ad nauseam. Which does not make something correct. Most people that say it do not know anything about animation to begin with...

[@soumyabratasaha7224]

bro i am also an indian student in my final year . Loved watching your analysis videos . Btw which college are you from?

[@rahmanmulyadi3124]

I hope people look this Vidio to understand

[@oogwaythesussyturtle]

honestly can't share it enough. such a good video with all the points explained. i just wish every cgi hater, and csm's and mappa's haters especially see this video. idk how anyone who has read the manga thinks that it's possible to draw frames for csm in all 2d. that's like so much work that would would be released in 2024.

[@subhrajit6241]

Would love to see you in trash taste someday dude. Love from Bharat.

[@danpaterson3098]

make a bocchi the rock video rn or im gonna do something

[@rrbcraftergames3361]

Not just talking about the animation, but I think Chainsaw Man is the type of anime MankoMan would enjoy a lot

[@christopher4227]

Also manko man the opening on the mappa channel is 4k what do you think of that mr manko?

[@SakugaObscurious]

Chainsawman and Mob Psycho 100 to me are the best animated shows of this season. In terms of technical prowess Chainsawman beats Mob, but Mob beats CSM through shear fucking animation. Episode 2 was wild. Also, Bocchi the Rock and Do it Yourself comes a close second in the animation department followed by MHA, Blue Lock, Spy x Family and Sword Isekai.

[@brycecartwright2403]

We feasting like kings this season. As a fan of mob and chainsaw man I’m absolutely thrilled to see one of my favorite anime and my favorite manga airing animes at the same time

[@initialdosth8221]

U forgot bleach

[@SakugaObscurious]

@@initialdosth8221 forgot to mention Bleach and Gundam

[@initialdosth8221]

@@SakugaObscurious yea bleach is toe to toe with chainsawman in movie quality animation

[@SakugaObscurious]

@@initialdosth8221 not sure about animation, some scenes felt stiff. The movie quality is due to the compositing, which is really good plus the storyboard give it a cinematic look. CSM also has movie like storyboarding.

[@airacousland232]

I had conversation with some people on the internet about CGI today. Immidiatelly knew it was a mistake, even when I show them animation sheets they were like "Eww." So yeah, some people will just hate for no reason. As an animation student myself, Mappa is one of the biggest inspiration for me, so I'm glad you did this analysis! Definitely gonna share it.

[@rxse4866]

Haters will be very silent if they see this. Excellent video man :D

[@PriyanshuDotCom]

Btw congrats for 1k subscriber

[@Pyanshu]

Actually It's not the first time Tam Lu has appeared in an anime, check Ann or twitter he worked on something else too

[@bingevilla]

i think too much ppl dont recognize that good animation isnt just through action fights. So far im in awe at the amount of detail and animation put in the simple movements in csm and aggravated that ppl fail to see and appreciate the effort the animators put in simple movements

[@rimonmahmud6258]

Bro the effort you put in each of your videos is just next level

[@leoliebert2281]

really appreciate your analysis , im gonna stick through the whole video and i really like how you just said that you dont care how long is gonna be the vid because you want to do justice and a right analysis , really great video even tho im just at the start but im really curious to know more from your prospective

[@vriendloos3242]

More mankoman!! Bro i can't get enough of these videos. I eat them like bread with jam. Please keep making them!!! Also a little thing to point out not to call you out or anything but intestine is pronounced differently, i could be wrong too but im pretty certain. Other than that, video was amazing it went by like a flash and again some of the best content i have watched this week

[@catlike9444]

Really amazing first episode. My only very small problem is the cgi of the chainsaw man, not the head or the chainsaws since those look amazing, but the human parts feel a little out of place in some scenes but everything else still looks godlike. Also it is possible to make all that detail in the manga 2d but they either have to pull a shitty record of ragnarok and make it a slide show which is worst then cgi, or spend 8 or more years animating everything 😅🤣. Over all this ep was a great start to chainsaw man.

[@TomKilworth]

Dude, get a Patreon set up. I'd donate to get more videos from you!

[@-MankoMan]

Working on it!

[@aahishpal631]

Congratulations for cracking the interview and for 1k subs. Still waiting for the nozomu abe video. Keep up the great work man. I'm watching your videos from that time when demon Slayer ep 10 aired and it looked so fucking incredible that I searched for animation channels for this and then found your video of how ufotable makes their show look incredible and it's the best thing I could have found on KZbin and from then I've watched all your videos.

[@navi7402]

Fun fact: Chainsaw man first appearance in PV 2021 was not CGI

[@lorenzorizzi864]

His head was

[@navi7402]

@@lorenzorizzi864 Nope, Kazutaka Sugiyama revealed the genga for that scene, and its handrawn

[@lorenzorizzi864]

@@navi7402 ah ok then the long lasting debate of that cut finally came to the end. I was one who initially thought it was 2d, because it would have been strange to create a cgi model just for the trailer, then I started too think it was cgi. Finally if over

[@HelloKolla]

Pros- OP is the most beautiful piece of cinematography, lighting and vibes I've seen since The Batman. The SFX, soundtrack and VA work is just... mwah. A true auditory experience. Denji speaks to me on a personal level, especially when he talks about what he wants before he dies; I love how while he obviously wants booba, he also just wants a happy relationship with someone who cares for him at the same time. Very wholesome, and quite tragic. This show feels more like an action-horror-thriller than an average shonen, especially in its bleak color palette. Me likey. Gripes- Wish we spent more time with Denji and Pochita pre-Chainsaw transformation. Yes, I know, the manga didn't either, but I was left wanting more at the end of this episode, especially since it seems this is the last we'll be seeing of this (nutless) version of Denji. While this episode had alot of blood, I was disappointed to see that there was a lack of gore. E.g. : With Denji's corpse, I wish that they had shown his entrails, maybe chunks of flesh bitten out of his face and limbs, you get the idea. Instead, his body was just cut up. Thas all.

[@brycecartwright2403]

Idk if you’ve read the manga, but there are some later fights with a LOT of guts. I won’t spoil when, but I can recall multiple instances of denji having been cut or blown in half and his entrails are hanging out, stuff like that.

[@deuce5546]

I mean the Zombie Devil literally attacks with his guts. And when Denji hunts his first devil in the flashback it's wide open with it's innards coming out.

[@nehh_aksat]

Calm down this is literally just the first episode. If you get disappointed that fast, you don't deserve to watch these shows. Stop nitpicking everything and enjoy these shows. It's just a first ep, they were busy doing the worldbuilding too

[@nehh_aksat]

Also, the animation was a masterpiece alone. The cgi and the animation was perfect especially the cgi was also flawless

[@brycecartwright2403]

@@nehh_aksat chill out, the original comment seemed to like it, no need to get on their ass about light criticism

[@yuuichiro1799]

People are just stupid, I recently saw a guy shitting on the CGI with a 2D clip of the fight in this episode, like...Bruh moment.

[@sabinakoka7967]

I knew it!!! I knew it was nanachi va just by listening to pochita

[@michaelbraxton137]

Dude😁 I hate that I watch your videos because everytime I watch an anime I notice the cgi 😂😂 my brain just look for the cgi.

[@QorvoAttano]

New to the chanel, i know you cover anime but have you seen arc system's animations? i thought since Dragon Ball FighterZ they really nailed the 2d/3d blend

[@ukmonk]

Great video thank you!! 3D animation can be awesome, IF in the right hands! Just as 2D animation can be trash in the wrong hands! Its all down to the artist...

[@TheGamer8991]

IMO, it's a matter of first and last impressions. Because the fist and last sequence of Denji's chainsaw form uses the CG model, the CG sticks to memory more easily. And since the blending between 2D and 3D is done so well, it makes people think the scene is mostly 3D. It's a misture of perception and memory bias, these quirks of the human mind are generally used in art and marketing to make a strong impression.

[@valdmarjose2374]

Kouki Fujimoto GOAT 🐐 again... i love this guy Do you think there's any chance of him appearing in Boku no Hero?

[@darkbustergt8085]

I wish everyone who overreacted about the cgi watched this video. Idk if theyd change their minds though since they'll blindly hate on Mappa any chance they get.

[@wutfunny]

This is an awsome fucking video. Definitely subscribing and sharing it to people that complain about the stuff in the show.

[@JJStylies]

if you ever wanna nerd out about a group that made incredibly stylized 3d animation work like 2d animation, and you haven't already, look at guilty gear xrd/strive/all of arcsys' 3d games after xrd. They pretty much custom designed insanely complex 3d models with an unreal number of bones that can can be stretched and distorted in ways that look like proper smear frames, all so they can use them for animations in a fighting game (which is key because for a fighting game, the upfront time of designing these models allows them to forgo the nightmare of needing to rebalance moves later in development, where a 2d sprite game would either have an animation that doesn't make much sense for the hitbox, or need to be redrawn, potentially several times).

[@OKARIIN]

Man You are one of the best on this shitty platform

[@xgenshin4077]

Would you say the 2d -3d mixing is better than ufo and kyoani standard...because they are considered to be the best in 2d -3d mixing I think Btw how much of the stuff is freelancer ... I am asking because people are doing that mappa vs bones thing again

[@fl0m_m]

Wow thank you for such a detailed analysis I don't know shit about animation but the video's really interesting

[@debunkedbyeren]

How do you think aot s4 part 3 will look with more time a less episodes I want the final fight to look like the retrospective episode at the least

[@geeqcza]

The animators watching this : This guy gets it!!!!!, Whew, he does!!!!!..lol It was really fucking good, saw someone saying it was rotoscoped dunno where the person got that from, and pochita is the best.

[@markomaksimovic7678]

Kouki Fujimoto's cuts look like they're rotoscoped sometimes, especially the one with Makima and the two guys walking in with their coats flapping. Don't know if it is or if he's actually just that good.

[@lorenzorizzi864]

@@markomaksimovic7678 he is just that good. Kinda like Takuya Niinuma

[@SenseofNoneYT]

Prolly because it looks that good. And that this someone hasn't seen enough excellent character animation in anime. It's the one of the treasures of anime. It's more rare to see great character acting than it is to see great action sequences.

[@michelepiocurci7924]

This is extremely valuable, thanks a bunch!

[@bf3isbestbf359]

Man i've only seen a few of them, but I love your animation analysis videos! Hope you do some for aot s4p3 whenever it comes out.

[@purplepinetrees5106]

You deserve many more subs and views. Keep up the good work.

[@DaggetSWG]

I just think that the first reveal of him in his chainsaw devil form should have just been full 2D. The wires in his neck just looked so bad in that shot, like you pointed out. That, and the one other "jank" scene you pointed out. The rest of the series so far has been great blending 2D and 3D.

[@-MankoMan]

In my episode 3 analysis I talk about why it was required for the chainsaw man to be 3D in his first reveal.

[@RJayStreet]

I was already blown away by this anime adaptation of one of my favorite manga, but your analysis pointed out stuff I didn’t even notice initially, AND IM BLOWN AWAY AGAIN! My only hope is that the folks that animated this show get a well deserved rest after giving us such a fantastic work of art. The working conditions at Mappa are apparently abysmal according to a French article that interviewed some of the animators there. Which sadly is common across a LOT of animation studios in Japan and is a systemic problem. Kind of a bummer to bring up, I know. But I truly believe this anime is going to be a game changer for anime, and I hope and PRAY the treatment of staff can reflect that. Without spoilers, all I’ll say is Chainsaw Man is a perfect blend of horror and melancholy, but also goofy humor and pure joy. We’re in for a wild ride.

[@NinjaspartanFOREVER]

Just found your vid and this is an excellent breakdown. It kind of goes to show how much of an impression the same variables everyone has tuned into effects their perspective. Everyone noticed the same small handful of stills that popped out as less impressive than others, yet some choose to shrug it off as a minor dip in quality while others it made or broke the whole episode. For me, I remain in absolute awe at the overall quality, but for the big main event I was really hoping for something a little different. Specifically Denji's body as the chainsaw man, Mappa had a gorgeously detailed body not even a scene before the reveal, but consciously chose to use a slightly stiffer CGI body for the reveal and for when Denji dropped from the steel beam, and then for when he flew at the zombie devil, and then for getting hugged by Makima. As a result, the neck wires not digging into his flesh were waaaay to noticeable, and the blood splatters on his body looked less like splats and more like finger paint. It seemed to limit the motion in certain frames where his muscles just didnt flex like 2D animation depicts, whereas in certain others literally a moment later we have sick motion blurs of him zooming around swinging his arms like pool noodles, and if you do that people will notice without even having to squint their eyes. Without a doubt this episode is a whole study on excellent movement animation, but at the same time gives its own examples of how the canyon sized difference that less than perfect compares. It's all in the muscle sakuga, and as amazing as it was, flipping the top half of Denji's body with 2D and 3D made the lack of muscle movement really stand out and reduce the potential weight of some of those chainsaw swings or the kinetic movement of him launching into the air at the zombie devil.

[@szklon4247]

22:32 where can i find more info about Tam Lu? It's a bit hard, I can't find too much about him and his animations

[@harman4321]

He worked in "Castlevania" he's fucking amazing, Castlevania is good you should check it out especially S4 is fucking Sakuga fest.

[@Dephlazgmatus]

Thank you for educating the masses!

[@ehsaaspandita7514]

lets fucking goo you cracked ittttt

[@oltihajdaraj8682]

I just feel that the Cgi sometimes breaks the immersion. Especially when these foreground 3d characters move its just takes me out of it.

[@davec8385]

Psycho pass OP 2 is certainly one of my favourite OPs of all time though this one and ranking of kings certainly gives it a run for its money. I can't wait to see how they take the continue to adapt the series! The manga gets better and better as it goes on so I can't wait for the end of season 1 and the future seasons!

[@Arttty]

The fact that 90% of the cgi you called out I hadn't even known it was cgi when I first watched this episode really shows how phenomenally they mixed it all together

[@flamingxninja1936]

congrats on 1k subs!

[@Cash_ketchup]

Congratulations for achieving 1k looking forward to Nozomu Abe breakdown

[@xSoporific1]

Mmm

[@odysseymusicrelations2752]

Don’t stop, this is quality content!

[@ghostghost7304]

very great review i was waiting for this. can’t wait for the Abe video

[@christopher4227]

Finally mankosaw man is finally making a video

[@theultimatebestboigigachad293]

Almost every shot was beautiful and maybe there was 10 shots out of the whole episode that didn’t look great. Heck, even saintitchief basically said it was a good adaptation. Yet people are saying it’s a mid and giving it a 6.5 out of 10 for the adaptation. And some people were saying they would drop the show already🤦‍♂️ based on this episode.Some people just don’t deserve anime, they especially don’t deserve a show like this.

[@suguru4901]

you need more recognition!!!

[@chirag7x681]

very well explained

[@dimolishoranimates]

yoo where do you find the genga ?

[@-MankoMan]

sakugabooru.com

[@initialdosth8221]

Didn't know there was Pakistani weebs 😂🔥

[@-MankoMan]

I'm sure there are. Just not me though. I'm Indian.

[@initialdosth8221]

@@-MankoMan oh i see , but no scope for animation in India

[@Frdyan]

Great Video! I was looking for someone actually talking about the CG instead of just moaning about how they used it. Its cool to find someone else new to anime yt as well :d

[@abura2980]

14:37 because back in the day, tomatoes were thought to be poisonous, but it wasn't the tomatoes being toxic, it's the plates, because in 1700s Europe times, the plates they were using if tomato acids hits it, it becomes toxic leading to lead poisoning

[@ajanithomas8414]

They got 1++ years to work on chainsaw man so u will expect for the first episode to be perfect

[@szklon4247]

Has Blue Lock opening good animation?

[@bongor4792]

Does anybody know how they do 3d animation for Demon Slayer game or for Naruto games? I think they best emulate 2d with 3d. Is it the framerate or they just have a bigger budget?

[@Sycafox]

One opening that i hold close to my heart to this day is the Naruto Shippuuden OP 8: Diver. Then, from the top of my head Mob I / II comes around and AoT S4 Pt2. I really had fun with that one AoT ED 2, because back then (last February) i was consuming AoT for the first time and immediately knew that this ED was made to completely cut it apart and theorize about what was and what might come. In terms of ED's... one that like is, again, from Shippuuden: ED 20, "By my Side". Nowadays i have a harder time remembering ED's that left a specific impact on me, because there's just so much.

[@Horneto12]

That cgi shot of his aliasing teeth needs to be change on the Blu-ray whatever it takes. For me is even worst than his cgi shot when looking around. Rest of the episode 10/10

[@explosion5022]

Hi, just found your channel man. Question: Did you intentionally set the Japanese C-word as your channel name lmao?

[@ds22342]

Usually when people think CGI in anime, they automatically assume it'll be like Berserk 2016/17 or Overlord season 3

[@sabinakoka7967]

In the opening when denji cracks the egg with a wondering look the song says "did I forgot something?" Like it's all blended together

[@andrecostafranca]

I already thought Chainsaw Man had the best animation Mappa had ever made, but after this video I'm certain Chainsaw Man is one of the best TV anime of all time on the technical aspect (and story wise too, if you know the shit they'll have to adapt). Mappa really stablished itself among the best anime studios of all time and clearly the biggest one right now.