BAD CINDERELLA is coming to broadway | my thoughts on the changes to the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical

[@seanmcgcostumes]

As soon as I saw the news I thought, "I wonder how Mickey Jo's doing right now, knowing that his torment continues." 😅👀

[@meganisabella14]

SAME!!!! he was the first person i thought about after the announcement

[@confidentconnor]

I third you all on that thought the same thing! 😂

[@ellengibson486]

Same!!

[@gayandmorallygrey]

I know right! Me too!

[@dizzyella8204]

He can never rest. He will never know peace

[@adamcooper5654]

This feels like such a slap in the face to the west end cast. Everything about this production has been messy and to cater to Webber’s ego. Also for what it’s worth I immediately thought of you when I read the news haha.

[@hijklmnop42]

Same, I immediately thought "Ohhhhhh daaaaammn I gotta see what MickeyJoTheatre says about this!" ;)

[@groveml7]

EXACTLY my thought upon hearing this...

[@notverynotoriousg5674]

Andrew Lloyd Weber and JK Rowling could retire to an island paradise never having to work again, and the universe would be fine with their decisions.

[@spookyseasonsarah]

One of my biggest issues with the original show (based on the cast recording) is that is seems to be championing a really dated perspective of feminism. It's very much giving "I'm not like other girls" and (like you mentioned) putting down all the other women in the show. It was disappointing to hear that they've kept many of those lyrics in the single already. Based on the marketing, the music, and the lyrics, this show feels like it would've done much better 20 years ago, had it come out on the heels of something like Wicked. It's also interesting to see how the spray painting reveal ("I'm your BAD Cinderella") is already becoming a meme on tiktok; it's finally getting its tiktok clout, just maybe not in the way they imagined. I'm curious to see if they'll lean into that campiness or run from it.

[@HelenRosemarySmith]

Having seen it, I can confirm it gives that impression in person too. If they hadn't marketed it as a feminist retelling, it maybe wouldn't have been so jarring (though still problematic).

[@JB-qf5ep]

Yeah, it's like they wrote a show to teach us all a really simple lesson that we already learned 25 years ago and have well moved on from. Its intent is preachy and its message is outdated. And that is sad, because the cast that I saw were all really talented and doing the best they could, but the material really screwed them over.

[@Mulbert]

@@JB-qf5ep I agree, I didn't see the show but having listened to the soundtrack all the plastic surgery mentions etc. gave off very noughties slagging off "bimbos" vibes

[@arthurbuttons]

You are so right!!!!! Like women are so brilliant and like when we work together and actually support and lift each other up we can achieve such great things. I would love more stories that were more realistic about female relationships. I have so many females around me who are so diverse and we all have different talents and something to bring to the table. It's not realistic to split females into "girls" and "not like other girls". Its actually quite an immature perspective. Reminds me of school. I left school and like catty experiences with girls like that became infrequent and in real life like the majority of people actually support you when your not being treated fairly and maybe someone is being a bit catty.

[@samuelblachon95130]

@@arthurbuttons did you Watched emerald fennell first movie promising young woman ? I'm not surprised about her writing her Cinderella story like this

[@kazza6078]

It definitely doesn't land for me when any media tries to do the "don't judge everyone on their looks" lesson while very clearly judging every actor on their looks.

[@WiseGuy19]

I'm honestly not sure if it's better to call the show "Bad Cinderella" or not. It's now more clear that it's not R&H's Cinderella, but the critics will certainly have fun with that one if they don't like the show.

[@notverynotoriousg5674]

you know the critics are already eye rolling in unison, as is the rest of the universe. there are people like Elton John and Betty White that age with grace and dignity, and then there are people like Andrew Lloyd Weber and JK Rowling.

[@Hamilgoth2002]

How about “‘Bad Cinderella’ Reviews Itself”

[@TSKyanite]

Cue the spinal tap "they called it shit sandwich"

[@notverynotoriousg5674]

@@chocolatesouljah the older I get the more I realize my opinion just might not matter as much as I think it does, when opinions are a detriment to other people's existence, maybe reflect a bit.

[@calebarsenault382]

I really thought the opening was going to be you sitting down, looking us dead in the eye, and saying "I think Andrew Lloyd Webber hates me"

[@racheltfisher]

😂

[@rikkifishy]

At this point, Cinderella is to you what Turn off the Dark is to Wait in the Wings. You’ll never be free of it.

[@carriew5106]

Ali Stoker as Cinderella would be epic. I think it's the right vocal range for her, and if they are going to embrace the Amercian accent then she would be fabulous. So much charisma. And what the statement to make, Cinderella in a wheelchair. She is very charming and engaging, full of sass, and has spent her life literally being looked down on.

[@callalily3994]

She's pregnant, so she's not going to be in anything major for a while. I think she's due in November.

[@carriew5106]

@@callalily3994 yeah, I remembered seeing that. But given that it's been cast for the Broadway Original cast maybe she could take the role over? Wishful thinking maybe, but you never know.

[@jaysondelossantos1912]

I miss read your comment at first, and I thought you said “Bram Stoker’s Cinderella”…THAT would be epic.

[@Kiwiberries31]

I would say yes 100% but the show is cursed lol and she deserves so much better

[@carriew5106]

@@jaysondelossantos1912 ha! That would be very appropriate for this show!

[@broadway331]

I actually just listened to “Bad Cinderella” for the first time and holy shit I’m surprised the Rodgers and Hammerstein estates are letting him get away with the melodic similarities to “In My Own Little Corner”. I guess it must be barely under the copyright limit. They have to do some sort of stunt casting to even HOPE of treading above water financially this Broadway season. It’s been dire. Linedy is more of an up-and-comer than a household name, or even a theater nerd name. The “I’m-not-like-other-girls” brand of feminism in this show is really outdated. It may have worked in the early 2000s, but it doesn’t really work now.

[@megangrace1405]

I've just listened to in my own little corner for the first time as I've never listened to r+h cinderella before and I was shook when I heard the similarities between the two

[@alextirrellRI]

The rhythm is identical but the notes are different/varied enough to sway any legal concerns. In this state it is what I would consider a musical parody of R&H. (And tons of shows do make reference to other shows/songs!)

[@JoneseyBanana]

Bad Cinderella has always reminded me of the melody in We Are One, in The Lion King 2

[@quadling3521]

“I’m not like other girls” was never feminism. It comes from men writing women and writing women they find desirable - “not like other women” coming from associated negative things with femininity.

[@georges1991]

@@alextirrellRI yeah it seems like a reference to a classic iteration rather than plagiarism

[@IvyroseGullwhacker]

obsessed with the fact that the NY Post critic literally emailed you to ask what the hell was going on in the UK 🤣

[@KAIMAOFFICIAL]

I was so excited to hear your thoughts on this. The whole thing just leaves a bad taste in my mouth what with how quickly they’ve done the transfer, not leaving any time for the dust to settle from ALW’s awful treatment of the west end cast! You’ve got to think.. the poor old west end cast watching the news and realising that even though they spoke up about his mistreatment, because he is rich and white he can just carry on like nothing happened which is quite frankly appalling… and the cast that were meant to take over as well! No time to tell them the show was closing but enough time to pull together a ‘changed’ broadway version… I wish the broadway cast nothing but the best, but I honestly feel for the west end cast so much who did SUCH a good job with what they were handed, and had to stand on stage with none of the creative team on closing night and hear that their best efforts were a ‘costly mistake’.. like dude… let. The. Dust. Settle. His lack of care for the west end cast just becomes more and more blatant with each new Cinderella move he makes. They deserved better because it was the cast that carried the show, and each other through everything. They shouldn’t have had to go through all of that and now have to watch him drop them *so quickly* to move on to something ‘fresher’. But this is no fault of the broadway cast, of course and I wish them luck. But the west end cast deserved better. It’s like watching an abusive ex that dumped YOU move on with someone new far too soon. It’s icky.

[@HelenRosemarySmith]

Yep it's so unfair he can just waltz over there and open a show like nothing happened.

[@samuelblachon95130]

@@HelenRosemarySmith life is so unfair

[@carolineh8713]

When I heard the news my first thought was “Oh, poor Mickey-Jo” My second thought was “I wish I were a fly on Carrie Hope Fletcher’s wall” 😅👀

[@swiftfirebolt6922]

When you think there can't be anymore drama about Cinderella!

[@samuelking9343]

Long may it's Broadway run! Longer than the West End run, let's hope.

[@joegiuffre6271]

Being in the industry, I can honestly say that Sir Andrew is pretty much reviled as a person. Evita and Superstar are admired, and Phantom although successful was made fun of by actors. Andrews's treatment of actors from Patty Lupone on down has been horrific and so he is not well liked in or out of the industry

[@callalily3994]

In terms of ALW's reputation in the US, I think he's mostly thought of as commercially successful but not really artistically successful -- like, when I was a teenager in the nineties, there was already a gatekeeping sort of "Your favorite show is Phantom/Cats? Obviously not a *real* theatre fan" thing going on -- those were "tourist shows," which was the highest insult. (Joseph and JCS were OK, though I think we mostly thought of Joseph as a show for kids. We only vaguely remembered Starlight Express as "That was weird, right?") I've also noticed that the US doesn't really have an ALW fanbase of the sort that I've seen from a few UK accounts on Twitter -- the sort of, "How DARE you say anything bad about him?!?!" vibe. Like, there are people here who love Phantom, but I haven't seen that sort of fandom around him personally.

[@callalily3994]

And on "barking mad," we don't really use that phrase much in the US, though I'd assume most people would understand what it means (though I've been wrong on assumptions like that before.) I do know at least two Americans who listened to CHF's version and, between the phrase being not quite as familiar and her accent mostly eliminating the R sound, they thought she was saying "fucking mad." Ab Fab is kind of a cult hit here -- there are people who know it and love it, but I don't think it's well-known enough for people to immediately realize, "Oh, that's what that's referencing."

[@callalily3994]

Also, the "I'm not ya Cinderella -- I'm ya BAD Cinderella" and the spray-painting at the press conference really seemed like stereotypes of how "urban youth" talk from like 1994. She had to be internally wincing so much delivering those lines that way. Kind of fits with the "Obscenely wealthy elderly white man tries to connect with what he thinks The Youth Of Today want to watch" vibe that I've been getting from a lot of stuff related to this show.

[@spookyseasonsarah]

I agree, I think even now it's still very much the vibe of "Your favorite show is Phantom? You must be brand new to theater". (and I say that as someone who enjoys Phantom lol)

[@callalily3994]

@@spookyseasonsarah When I was in college, and a friend from North Dakota was coming to visit me in NJ over the summer, and she said she wanted to see a Broadway show, I was like, "Sure, absolutely! Which one do you want to see?" and then when she was about to answer, I added, "But not Les Mis or Phantom," and she was like, "Oh. Let me think about it, then." (We ended up seeing Rent, which we both loved.) (I love Les Mis, but I'd already seen it four times at that point. And seeing Phantom was like going to Olive Garden in Times Square, in my mind at the time.)

[@AKMorehouse]

There’s a lot about this show that makes me go 😬, and while I don’t want to be a pessimist, I don’t foresee it doing well on Broadway. Tourist usually go for the well known shows (Phantom, Wicked, Hamilton , etc.), the ones with big name stars (Music Man, Funny Girl, etc.), or the ones based on things they already like (MJ, Moulin Rouge, anything Disney, etc.). ALW ‘s association with this production will have a minimal impact on sales to tourists and locals alike. Those who live locally and/or have more of appreciation for Broadway are going to be the ppl who are this first and make the decision to hype it up or shut it down. Also the Imperial is a smaller Broadway theater (the last production there was Ain’t too Proud), so the staging, set, choreography, etc. is going to need to be changed (which I don’t think is going to be in this show’s favor). Broadway like the West End is in a bit of an economic crisis (right now there is an unusual amount of black marquise in the theater district) so if the show struggled in London, IDK why ALW thinks it will do better in NY (especially when this show does not have any tourist drawn compared to other shows currently on or coming to Broadway in the next 6 months).

[@chrissyr8387]

So...He literally screwed over his original cast and crew, set everything on fire, ended Phantom of the Opera...just to get the show he claimed was a "costly mistake " to Broadway...I hope this all goes well for the new cast and crew

[@bway_car08]

This whole situation is so frustrating. I feel so bad for the how the West End cast and crew were treated. I do hope the Broadway cast and crew won’t have to suffer the same fate.

[@brennanmaynard4237]

It’s really a bunch of annoying changes. The title song doesn’t sound very well: From a compositional standpoint, the new lyrics for “Bad Cinderella” sound dumbed down and prosodically awkward. It’s a really disappointing downgrade from the quality words and poetry used in the London version. As far as I am concerned, the London version is thus more valid. It’s just a better song. They removed what must’ve basically been perceived as “Anglicisms” that Americans wouldn’t understand, but that’s dumb. We speak English-we know what the word “catty” means. Also, “barking mad” is not a phrase we use, but we totally understand it.

[@LoraK31]

I think my biggest issue with the musical is that the conflict just boils down to an "everything would be solved in two seconds if they just talked" kind of thing. They'd really have to do a huge overhaul of the story to make it have more impact, which I doubt ALW would do. I just hope he treats the US cast better than then UK one when this inevitably gets at least a few bad reviews.

[@radishraccoon3657]

I really know nothing about the show beyond listening to the cast recording once, but the casting of the lead strikes me as entirely in tune with the whole vibe I get from the show. It seems to be the musical theatre embodiment of the "I'm not like other girls" trope. A conventionally attractive girl is mildly rebellious or unimpressed with society, so she is THE WEIRD GIRL who is just SO CRAZY. It feels like this show could have worked 30 years ago, but today... And I'm sorry but if your actual name is Cinderella then "Bad Cinderella" is the most underwhelming and uninspired attempt at a (mean) nickname I can possibly imagine. Everything about this show just seems so cringeworthy! ALW is the "how do you do, fellow kids" meme personified.

[@EmeraldAshesAudio]

Agreed. It makes so much more sense when her name is Ella and Cinderella is the catty nickname.

[@nebulacoffee]

Yes!! 😂You've summed up my thoughts exactly. Thank you for this comment! It feels like such a ridiculously out-of-touch cash-grab.

[@djhedgepath7967]

You are correct about some of the words and phrases that, us, Americans, don't say ("barking mad," "no one a nutter," etc), so I understand some of the lyric changes. But something about this version seems off to me.

[@petegryzie2046]

Something interesting (I think) to note, is that the R&H Cinderella films are actually not “adaptations”! The Julie Andrews film version was where that score premiered and the stage version was the adaptation 😜

[@chocolatesouljah]

4:46 - A quick note that Rodgers + Hammerstein's Cinderella was not a revival but the first Broadway production in 2013. 3 TV productions came first then the Broadway debut.

[@carriew5106]

When I saw there was ANOTHER video on Cinderella ngl, I swore aloud. Then I saw the title has changed and I swore again. I just hope that the cast and crew of the Broadway show are treated much much better than the West End cast.

[@ShatteredMirror]

ALW's Cinderella: *exists* MickeyJoTheatre: and I took that personally.

[@ShatteredMirror]

For real, though, your responses and issues and criticism with this musical (and ALW) have always been so measured and sensible and honest, and I've appreciated all of it. However, the way you apparently cannot escape this show ever in your life now is very, very funny.

[@rebieroo99]

we went 3 whole months without hearing him say, 'my cinderella' it was going so well. i want to know what this show has against public workshops doing some before the west end after the invite-only, if they did might have stopped all of this to get public opinion, one should have been done between the west end closure and yesterday's announcement to test the new and changed stuff.

[@jennivamp5]

Lord Webber, ask the opinion... of the PUBLIC?! Don't be absurd! 🧐 What could there possibly be that needs testing? When the Great Lloyd Webber has blessed the huddled masses with the brilliance of his music! 🤣

[@jessk187]

I don't hate the new colors in marketing, and I definitely think the new title is a good choice. I am hoping they go deeper with changes to the show beyond changes to the lyrics and script.

[@IshScout]

First I NEED a reaction video to the new Into The Woods Broadway cast recording because it's amazing. Now as far as Bad Cinderella goes the new lyrics in the verses don't bother me that much (it feels like it was done to make it less British which makes sense) HOWEVER the repeating chorus that just feels like a weird wink to Defying Gravity is a bit more baffling unless she's going to start climbing buildings in the staging of the song or something. The new color scheme could work if they really lean into the punk/rebel aspect with the marketing & new additions/changes to the show itself. Hell I'd change the setting of Belleville to be more urban & modernize it a bit to push the "wrong side of the tracks" graffiti is all over the part she lives in to start with. As far as casting goes I just want a good diverse cast with maybe an unknown as the Prince. This could end up being a huge mess but I'm here for the ride.

[@angelawhitehouse8066]

Can't help wondering if the next iteration will be Desperate Cinderella.....

[@citrinedragonfly]

Just based on the London Soundtrack for ALW's Cinderella, it could go over well here. It's a VERY ALW show - that was the first reaction that my wife had upon listening to the soundtrack on KZbin's official channel a few months back, and both her parents have done ALW shows over their careers. If the things you mention are addressed, and if certain songs are sped up, it'll be catchier. It's going to get buzz because of the timing (do you get tickets for one of Phantom's final nights, or Bad Cinderella's opening nights?), but I'm not sure otherwise. I think if it toured, I'd try and nab tickets, but going all the way up to NYC for it... I mean, maybe if we can snag closing Phantom tickets? It would depend on the prices. I hate how poorly the cast and crew in London were treated, though.

[@brosandprose]

This show is so cursed and has such bad karma that I am amazed they thought this was a financial risk worth taking, especially given the rocky financial state of Broadway right now.

[@mwmheps]

I do agree the new title makes a lot of sense but it is also objectively hilarious 😂😂

[@finsfables]

This has become essentially a saga of Cinderella on the Mickey jo theater KZbin channel

[@ANightworkerslife]

There are sooo many cinderalla-stories that I am actually tired of all of them, haven't even seen the latest movie with Idina (saw a trailer and it was awful) and I think this is the main issue, there are just too many! Now... Rapunzel? Couldn't that be made into a musical? It could even be contemporary..

[@aneeshaedwards1625]

I don’t know too much about the show aside from the West End drama and tiktok making fun of the Bway promo, but I literally cannot see this show lasting long. The message is outdated (“I’m not like other girls”), casting a pretty girl as the lead in this kind of show makes no sense, especially bc I think her voice is too legit for this show from the snippet (absolutely no hate to Linedy), and we’re getting tired of both ALW and adaptations over here in the US lol.

[@celestiastra13]

This is very much giving... ALW going through his "how do you do fellow kids" phase

[@emjbrown87]

The biggest question... Will you be going to find out how it differs in person? I echo the luck you wish the cast. Feel they are gonna need all the positivity they can get 😬

[@CP-mb3sn]

Was eagerly anticipating your take, you don't disappoint!

[@joolaine]

Not sure Colleen is even available. She JUST announced tour dates for the first months of 2023.

[@themistheblue9449]

Can we all agree that everyone is more interested in the offscreen hijinks of the older gay prince and stop trying to make the show about Cinderella? Or is it just me?

[@jessiepkwz]

linedy said she’s known about her role since february 16th this 2022, this has been in the works for a good while! especially a long time before the abrupt west end closing

[@HelenRosemarySmith]

whoa :O

[@gayandmorallygrey]

Where did you see this? Can you remember?

[@nebulacoffee]

@@gayandmorallygrey The Playbill KZbin channel has the interview if you search for her name. It shows her spray painting the letters and then talking about her casting afterwards and she mentions the date.

[@jessiepkwz]

@@gayandmorallygrey i saw it on her ig post announcing the part! (sorry for the late reply)

[@braindeadgoldfish]

I really wish you would show images of the logos/marketing pieces you're talking about on screen while you talk about them. it's pretty annoying to have to go and look them up to see what you're talking about.

[@oblivionfiend2037]

It's funny coming to this now when the video is 11 months old and my next recommended video is "Bad Cinderella is closing on Broadway!" from just 4 months ago

[@Showtunediva]

I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on R&H Cinderella when you see the show. I was in a community production of it near my hometown in 2021 and I love the music especially It’s Possible and 10 Minutes Ago. I am intrigued to see Bad Cinderella on Broadway. Thanks for your review.❤

[@ellaburrell8560]

I was literally just watching the video from a couple of weeks ago about Phantoms closure thinking 'I wonder when Mickey Jo will do a video about Bad Cinderella?' and then I clicked on his channel page after finishing the video and here it is!

[@schrire39]

“Bad Cinderella” tune borrows as much from the chorus of Nic Kershaw’s “The Riddle” as it does from R&H’s “In my own little corner”

[@cannotthinkofausername6379]

I feel like Krysta Rodriguez would have been a good Cinderella for Broadway. I know she probably wouldn't do it due to the negative press from the west end, but she's got a bit of an edgy yet likeable personality that I think could make the role fun. Plus she is a box office draw having starred on Broadway before and starring in Halston on Netflix. EDIT: I also think Julie Benko could be a good rising star in the role

[@everettbaxter5327]

Krysta is also currently playing Cinderella on Broadway but the Sondheim version in Into the Woods

[@cannotthinkofausername6379]

@@everettbaxter5327 I know and that's probably why she's on my mind as a pick for the character lol

[@MickeyGirl518]

The new marketing looks like the Disney Cruella Marketing and it makes my eyes hurt😂 honestly I was so excited for the original, and living close to Manhattan I initially hoped it would transfer but after everything that’s happened I definitely won’t be seeing this unless major things are addressed

[@leahgraham1294]

Just listened to the new version of Bad Cinderella and I’m like…Ok? I feel the original was more powerful and the new version lacks nuance (which I never thought I would write about this show) and is very straight to the I’m a loner, I don’t care, hate me vibe.

[@HelenRosemarySmith]

I know I was like - is the new version now making me defend the writing of the old one? 😅

[@scottishtan]

Re: wanting to see a disabled Cinderella: I got to see a local production of Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella with Jenna Bainbridge in the title role. As a disabled woman myself, it was powerful to see such a talented disabled actress in this role, and I hope future versions of Cinderella on stage consider similar casting.

[@arthurbuttons]

I completely understand what your saying about the appearance thing. It's kind of difficult to have a really conventionally beautiful woman playing a character who is allegedly being bullied and abused for being ugly. It sometimes it actually makes you think "well if she's ugly what am I?" I know that's not a healthy thought but it is a thought and it is difficult that it sort of seems to be being reinforced. I think it would be so nice to have a lady that was different and maybe not what society would traditionally assume was beautiful playing the lead role and being able to overcome obstacles based on her being fabulous and something other than "gorgeous". Like I feel that would be more inspiring. I don't know.

[@sierrabergsgaard5314]

ALW really should be watching your videos, he needs some helpful tips on how to save this musical..can we tag him lol?

[@joeevans5770]

A mickey jo theatre drama video on my birthday what a treat

[@MickeyJoTheatre]

Happy Birthday! Have a stagey day 🥳

[@lillianward2810]

Barking mad isn’t a phrase used often in the States but it’s not like we don’t know what it means. I find it weird how many shows are rewriting their scores to get rid of the Britishisms, especially when it’s something very small and cosmetic.

[@callalily3994]

Which other shows have done that? The only one I know of is Six (where the changes were fairly small, but I think most of them were necessary). Are there others? (I know that Legally Blonde did it in the other direction -- changed a bunch of American references when they went to the UK.)

[@literateknits]

I took a minute to listen to the song before commenting and… good god. How did they make her even more self-centered? It was already my biggest problem with the show, but removing the plexiglass houses line makes what was a bit of a commentary on society more about flipping off every individual she sees. And then there’s the “flying high in the sky” bit. I didn’t like it once in the West End version and now it’s in the Broadway version 3 or 4 times??? I’ll withhold some judgement until we see more of the cast at least (extremely worried we won’t see another brown face in the main cast), but I am right now rating Bad Cinderella as “get the popcorn, this is gonna be a train wreck.

[@disneydanny2]

what makes me think that Andrew will find some way to get Sierra Boggess into the Broadway cast

[@anne_bckmnn]

I kinda see her in the show though 😂

[@beltingtokra]

She'd make an excellent Queen!

[@kazza6078]

Making the new star spray paint 'bad' onto the poster feels very tired and cheesy. I hope she comes out of this in a good way

[@Vertigotheatre1]

To be fair, everyone on every theatre message board said it should be called Bad Cinderella when it opened.

[@meghardy2646]

Please fly to New York and review it for us! Do it for us, Micky! 😂xx

[@pinkiBaerchen]

Honestly I was convinced the show has been called Bad Cinderella from the beginning. Please tell me I'm not the only one 😅

[@toric6005]

Ooof you’d think they wouldn’t call it Bad Cinderella. Like the negative reviews write themselves.

[@maryluke8611]

Even though Phantom has been sort of stumbling along it still had the original sets and full orchestra. There's no way Bad Cinderella can replace Phantom.

[@jacobrivera-sanchez5121]

I think the dress of the original West End logo is also supposed to look like a W for Webber. And now it’s an A in the word BAD. So it makes sense that they would like to keep the letter concept. And I’m familiar with the artist’s other work, and this concept of using it as a letter seems very intentional.

[@rebeccadeal2560]

So much joy (not to mention a little excited squeak) when you mentioned Soho Cinders 😁 Love that show so much!!!

[@musicalmeg19]

ALW just needs to have something on Broadway, hence the one-day overlap with Phantom. He wants to have some sort of presence in NY until he figures out the future of Phantom. Not sure this is the correct choice.

[@thomasmurphy83]

The saving grace was them deciding to not go ahead and replace Phantom with this. Still, what an odd scenario all around.

[@MrBungee]

Thanks for continuing to cover Broadway stuff from the other side of the world better than most outlets here.

[@bethcollihole577]

to be honest, i founf put about this musival today so my thoughts are still cookin' heres a list: -bad cinderella rhymes with dad cinderalla -i shoild xcall my dad from,Beth

[@harrisonfletcher4218]

that is e rylly nice thought betH. from,Harrison

[@charlotterichardson3413]

Saw news about 'Bad Cinderella' .... ran straight to youtube to find Mickeys reaction 😂

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

AbFab was huge in the 1990s in the US. It would definitely land with the normal core audience of musicals...at least those of us who remember the 1990s.

[@brendan-kailerlieb4347]

While the series was popular on tv, I don't think it holds an appeal for this country on a large scale. When the film was released in 2016 it only grossed $4.6 million in the United States.

[@ParisDakota]

I consider myself fairly well versed in pop culture, but I had never heard of it before the film came out a few years ago. And I'm not too terribly young either at 34, so I think it would be a very dated reference to Americans.

[@kallen868]

I'm American and love AB-FAB! Back in the 90's my roommates surprised me with a boxed VHS set of the first couple of seasons! Best gift ever.

[@messinadress]

I think my biggest question would be, knowing all of the drama that went down in the UK, what sensible, experienced Broadway star would WANT to be involved with this production? Will they want to steer clear or will the draw of ALW lead them like moths to the flame?

[@Steela100]

I was like “bad Cinderella? A self own. Those are rare”

[@kazza6078]

Plus sized actors (esp as ROMANTIC LEADS) in literally everything, pleeease.

[@Mulbert]

I was saying to my sister that I hope one day plus size actors are standardly cast in major lead roles where their size isn't even mentioned, it's just a physical fact unworthy of notice like if someone was short or tall. I'm fat and would really like to play a lead in a local theatre production (if I passed the audition obviously!) but I don't think I'll ever be able to at this size which is depressing. I was the nurse in a high school production of Romeo & Juliet and had a great time but I'd have loved to be Juliet, even at 14 knew I never could be though which sucked.

[@jericlark5855]

Yes. Please let’s promote even more obesity in this country.

[@kazza6078]

@@jericlark5855 hi people like you have made me wish i were dead since I was 8 so kindly go to hell. No one is promoting obesity no one has ever promoted obesity this is just the stupidest point. Why aren't you concerned about anorexia? Bulimia? The never ending barrage of harassment leading to depression and unaliving tendencies OBVIOUSLY much more common towards fat people than thin people? You don't care AT ALL about anyone's welfare so again kindly go to hell and rot.

[@anthonyL1995]

The step-mother was based on Patsy? I got major Joanna Lumley/ Patsy vibes from the Fairy God-Mother based on the way it was performed on the album. AbFab is known in the US but it's sort of a product of its time here. Whereas I was watching it last night on BritBox and have probably watched the series 100-something times at this point.

[@MelissaBlue]

I would bet that many of us Americans watch Mickey Jo for West End news are at greater likelihood for knowing (and loving) the classic Ab Fam. ETA: I'll leave in the autocorrect for our Ab Fab Fam!

[@alison5673]

I have a feeling Todrick Hall might be cast as one of the princes because he was in the audience sitting next to ALW at the preview performance of cinderella that I saw last year and I know he did a recording of ‘only you’ at some point. He’d be a good ticket draw and I know he is friendly with Colleen as well so that is why I believe her casting rumour too!

[@anne_bckmnn]

omg really? Who would Colleen play though?

[@charlottem1430]

@@anne_bckmnn one of the sisters i imagine

[@alison5673]

@@anne_bckmnn apparently one of the step sisters

[@leadershipwithxander]

Bad Cinderella, the song, is an "I am song" surely? (Previous version climaxed with "I am bad Cinderella"). I wouldn't call it an "I want" song because it doesn't express a single wish, need or want.

[@katherinem8479]

I think the MOST of the new lyrics are a mistake. I actually enjoyed the original “bad Cinderella” song. The new song does not convey the same information the crowd needs to understand what is going on. Just my opinion though- love your channel! from the US.

[@caro9390]

Now I really want to know did you answer that email? And if yes what did you tell him?

[@EmyMay96]

So do we need to start a crowd funder for mickey to go to New York and review?

[@WiseGuy19]

Oleksinski's latest article about the show says a new writer is on board to fix the book despite Emerald Fennell still being credited. He's trolling Andrew Lloyd Webber for the entire article and calling out his behavior toward the London cast.

[@samuelblachon95130]

Thank you for the news because he said on TV the Book is Still by emerald fennell

[@LeodeGuillebon-fu7dk]

Thanks! I've been fascinated by the Bad Cinderella story since seeing the show on Broadway and you've provided SO MUCH amazing insights and context. Love all your videos... I hope you come back to New York soon!!

[@sweeney60]

I like the idea of a disabled Cinderella. Ali Stroker would kill this role. Or maybe a trans actress.

[@maddiemaccheese8170]

I'm fully on board with the title change but the irony isn't lost on me, and it's hilarious

[@HelenRosemarySmith]

The lyric changes seem to have no logic to me... and now it keeps saying that she's flying high in the sky. I also notice that they continue to rhyme a word with itself which is something I noticed a lot in the show (see and see in "when you see that I can see through you"). With how the West End production (cast, crew, front of house, everyone) were treated, I just hope that things go better on broadway.

[@sunnytyler001]

A plus-size Cinderella would have been amazing :(

[@ladisneyprincesse]

I’m disappointed this didn’t happen for the Broadway production!

[@w.k.astrolabe280]

The name change too could be for the Americans who know who Carrie Hope Fletcher is. She was really big in the 2010s on youtube. If you type in "bad cinderella" you get an image of her singing the song. A lot of people have not heard about the bad things that happened to the show (unless they are SUPER into theater). All old Carrie Hope Fletcher fans will see is her and Andrew Lloyd Weber and assume it's all good.

[@bethcollihole577]

hey king, beautiful voice akin to an angel. from, BC

[@elliemonks2331]

ALW changing Cinderella so much for Broadway gives the same vibes as a man leaving his family and starting all over again with a new one…

[@ChienaAvtzon]

Just watch it flop on Broadway. I live in Brooklyn, saw a poster for “Bad Cinderella”, and it looked so tacky. Andrew Lloyd Webber is not that popular with American audiences. His shows play better with foreign tourists, especially those who English is not their first language. After all, it was an American review trashed this show.

[@jasonwelle]

I saw Whistle Down the Wind in London (1996 or so) and left during intermission. I was surprised that an ALW show was so bad (to me). So it makes sense that a lot of his flops aren't crossing the pond. As for AbFab, I think gays of a certain age will get the reference, but I'm not sure if younger generations would get it.

[@amitmeir8109]

I know this show is a trainwreck but I'm excited to see it on Broadway.

[@tigerfanfrv]

Love Never Dies was a traveling show, It was a sequel we never asked for or needed. It was Terrible!!!

[@MadameCorgi]

The new logo looks alright at the press event when it's on a white background but I don't like the red and pink together on the other one. I really enjoy commentary on this show, which is unusual because I don't think's very good. Perhaps it's the unpredictability that makes it interesting to follow

[@MandiWallar]

As much as the role might be right for her I’d be really surprised if Colleen was doing this. She’s currently running her own very tightly booked Miranda tour right now and because of her kids and her desire to be away from them for as little time as possible she’s going back and forth from city to home for almost every tour location or at most from weekends and then home. That wouldn’t be possible if she were in a Broadway run. They’d all have to move and she’d have to change or postpone or even cancel her tour and considering she just announced a large number of the dates and locations for 2023 I beyond doubt it

[@bethcollihole577]

i think i would like to see danny harmer in the lead role from, BC

[@madelyn.mckean]

i know this is random but you should start a podcast and upload the videos as an audio because i feel like that would be amazing and so fun! i love your videos though!!! 😊

[@25971yqop]

I have literally watched every Cinderella video you have done since the first and it has been RELENTLESS! But absolutely love the videos none the less! Thank you!

[@DannyBeckerFilms]

So. You take a role played almost exclusively by plus size actors (aside from swings) then cast a sraight size, conventionally attractive actor the second it makes the jump to Broadway...even though her being not conventionally attactive is HUGE plot point? Got it.

[@TheGirlInGeekGlasses]

Also, they've redesigned the woman in the logo to make her more slim! 😬

[@arisefairsun]

The new lyrics for “Bad Cinderella” are so repetitive! It’s one of the only good songs from the show and it now just seems to be about Cinderella ‘flying high in the sky’ over and over again? Not a fan of the new version but I can see why they had to update some of the lyrics for an American audience. I also agree that they could’ve been a bit more adventurous with the casting of Cinderella. Someone who is visually a lot different from the rest of the characters would make more sense when the whole focus of the show is on standards of beauty and behaviour

[@maryluke8611]

OMG that is exactly what he did to LND title song. He had a good song " The Heart Is Slow to Learn" introduced by no less than Kiri Te Kanewa and he replaced it with utterly insipid lyrics thag repeat the words Love Never Dies over and over. When ALW tries to improve something he usually makes it worse.

[@KyleMotsinger]

I’m encouraged by the fact that he’s writing new songs but I find the new lyrics to Bad Cinderella a bit clunky and the “flying above you” metaphor is very cliche. I didn’t see it in London but from listening to the cast recording I found a lot of the “funny” lyrics to be not very.

[@helRAEzzzer]

Lol. Andrew Lloyd Webber has always taken pieces of melodies from other works. The end of "Think of me" was taken almost entirely from the end of an actual opera song (I can't remember the opera - I found it in a coloratura KZbin search so it must be a popular one). Honestly, I think almost all of that score was stolen. There was a piece of a song from School of Rock that was taken from an 80's rock band; I think it was AC/DC or Aerosmith or something similar- again, not an obscure group. I wouldn't be surprised to find more than these 3 (including Cinderella) examples. I have to re-watch the other Webber shows I know, Jesus Christ Superstar and Cats, to see if they have stolen melodies too. He's usually not the worst at hiding it but it's not odd for him to steal melodies. At least with Phantom it could be genuinely read as genuine artistic omage (I can't spell) given the entire musical is stylistically an omage to opera (leaving the book he was adapting to the wayside unfortunately).