Bad Fuel Line Causes Engine Fire & Crash - Episode 244

[@charlesdorval394]

As an old fan of Mayday, it blows my mind listening to you guys again (and without the limitation of TV) Keep up the good work, the aviation world needs it :)

[@drakepassage4255]

I purchased two rebuilt starters thinking they were the same as new. They are not!! Each lasted about for months. Finally figured "rebuilt" is not the same as "new". Finally bought a new starter, with no problems over two and a half years.

[@freechild9159]

Sorry I am confused why can't they back track the mechanics that have worked on the aircraft prior and start from there?

[@charlesfaure1189]

Owner doing something he should already know to never do. If you can't afford to maintain an airplane properly, you can't afford the airplane.

[@ED-es2qv]

You say the owner obviously underestimated the risk, because there was an accident. Usually true, but a logical fallicy that is extremely common. After a negative event, people assume the odds of the event occurring must have been higher than we thought, but a 1 in a million event happens. It's not proof that's the odds have changed (but it's certainly wise to err on the side of caution and investigate). When I was an engineer, management always wanted to know our confidence in doing something without incident, and I might answer 90%. If the incident happens after 20 successful attempts, the manager says I misled him or was wrong about the risk being so low (despite statistics bearing out to 95%).

[@CJE2007.5]

If I remember correctly back in the 90s, didn't the two presidential aircraft end up having bogus parts?

[@christopherrobinson7541]

Yes.

[@tocsa120ls]

This is one thing I'd never mess with. These types of hose ends seal on an angle, eg. you have a 45 degree cup in the fitting and the hose end has to have another 45 degree fitting. You buy a fuel hose for a Holley carb, it will have a 60 degree fitting. You buy your own crimper, if it's for AN hoses, it will have a 37 degree crimp jaw. So this is one thing I'll never try. On the other hand I'd be happily running an automotive alternator after a daytime test flight.

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

these parts are contraband... correct? should it not be someone like the FBI dealing with that, not the FAA which does not really have such tools as needed to battle this kind of issue?

[@christopherrobinson7541]

In the pst by the FAA and the FBI were involved in the investigation of bogus parts.

[@Great-Documentaries]

24:15: I cannot believe you said that about the AlaskaAir pilots. I can officially say this now: You are absolutely clueless. First they didn't fly over ANY airports -- they would have had to make significant turns with a plane that had flight control issues to even attempt what you said. Second, not all of those airports were prepared for an MD-80 emergency landing. Third, what are the odds they could have safely landed it even if they had diverted the moment they noticed the problem? If they tried to go immediately to a SoCal airport and crashed, how many people on the ground would have also died? Fourth, they called Alaska Maintenance, which is what the pilots were SUPPOSED to do and what they were TRAINED to do. They were working the problem! They didn't know what the problem specifically was. You are acting like they were either dumb, ignorant or that what they did was inexcusable. Obviously you've never been an airline pilot. We can be thankful for that at least. Stick to using a screwdriver on your Cessna. Your Monday Morning Quarterbacking skillz are terrible.

[@michaelh8890]

I think you are slightly overrreacting. By 'overflying' I think you mean directly over ( or very nearly so) while I think the authors mean something closer to 'flew past/nearby'. Plus once the airplane got over the ocean near the crash site, i recall they made several turns to remain in that locale. But yes, they were trying to get the a/c to an airport which wouldn't enormously inconvenience the pax. I don't know the exact company guidance/ procedures before or after the accident, nor do I recall the exact sequence & timeline of events, but both the pilots & company ( in hindsight) could have done things differently

[@michaelh8890]

Just an assumption, but I'm presuming when you say"high visibility people on the internet" you are referring to Mike Busch. I have seen several of his videos, and attended one of his presentations in person. I can categorically state that he issues unsafe advice, which despite that, seems to be happily consumed & followed by the uninformed. Disgraceful & dangerous. My background as an aero engineer, A&P, & 20+ years of accident investigation is reason to take this observation seriously

[@olympiashorts]

Can you be more specific about your criticism of Mike Busch?