Bad Gear - Moog Little Phatty

[@AudioPilz]

Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel* Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz

[@desktorp]

I would like to recommend the Roland SH-32 (if you haven't done it already) but actually I kinda like it

[@robbrobb5543]

I love the space funk bro killer

[@plp3103]

Where can i find music of yours?

[@dieSpinnt]

@@desktorp Click AudioPilz ... NO ... The Channel! Right site at the top (doesn't age well with Web-Content ...) ... I mean the search bar at the channel level: Insert "Roland SH-32". SH 201 and MT-32 came up ... so you are lucky ... or unlucky. That depends on your expectations:) So ... I hope I helped a little. And next time, you don't need an adult an can search the content yourself. Joking, btw. Have fun!:)

[@desktorp]

@@dieSpinnt haha yeah I searched twice and the quality of the search results felt so lackluster, I couldn't be certain there wasn't already an sh-32 video

[@JJohnkkttran]

I just feel blessed that the Moog man himself dropped a synth on us with the same font as the "Wayback Machine" before he left this earth

[@AudioPilz]

Damn, so true!!! Didn't notice, thanks for posting!

[@kiko1935]

I read this completely wrong and thought that this video came out on the same day as The Wayback Machine being discontinued

[@YouBredRaptorsMusic]

Hahahaha

[@bartoscar]

Wayback Machine: Slack Casual Little Phatty: Gogo Black

[@milk_bath]

Nice catch!

[@RCAvhstape]

"And with balls of steel, he put a Moog on his Bad Gear show. From heaven above, Saint Bob himself smiled down, impressed with his courage and fortitude, knowing full well that at least the second jam would be sick, and so it was."

[@AudioPilz]

❤️ 🧡 💛 💚 💙 💜 🖤 ❤️ 🧡 💛 💚 💙 💜 🖤 ❤️ 🧡 💛 💚 💙 💜 🖤

[@zbnmth]

*another* Moog ! (I got the DFAM partly financed for my birthday by my parents after showing Florian's review to them. Thanks Florian!)

[@synthmage00]

Brutal, but fair. My LP Stage II is the only synth I've never even thought of getting rid of, but it definitely has its limitations. Still, when you need a thick bass or lead tone that completely hogs the mix and cuts through everything around it, the LP is a killer.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!! That's what you get one of these for!

[@shaft9000]

I've had one of the early Tributes for like 15+ yrs now. It's good for taking to jams. Especially funky jams. Yeah, the main problem in studio is trying to use it for everything in a track, so as an 'only analog synth' for novices it's rather nutters and limited/frustrating once the 'wow I have a Moog!' feeling levels off.

[@unclemick-synths]

@@shaft9000 yes, it takes a Moog Whisperer like Lisa Bella Donna to make multiple Moogs play nicely together without sounding like one huge honk.

[@BlackMan614]

Exactly. I have it routed thru an Avalon U5 and it kills bass. That's all I use it for. Menu diving for the arpeggiator?? Yeah... no way. I haven't had any issue with the rubber deteriorating. I had the CV/Gate Out mod added at the factory... makes a killer 5U controller thanks to the big "Output On/Off" button.

[@SureFeelsGood]

can you suggest a budget analog sounding synth for me? i'm a novice just wanting to play funky ass basslines like pfunk - flashlight, stevie wonder - boogie on reggae woman, etc

[@YouBredRaptorsMusic]

I don't know if this was the intended audience when these were designed, but I remember when they came out, tour musicians were ALL about these. For rock bands playing out live who wanted Moog leads, but the ability to save and recall patches, and something sturdy and built like a tank...... These were a godsend.

[@AudioPilz]

Certainly great in that context

[@hpoz222]

I know Geddy Lee of Rush used one on stage for years

[@YouBredRaptorsMusic]

@@hpoz222 I don't not know that! Super cool!!!!

[@Simeon_Harris]

@@hpoz222 funny you mention that, because i ended up here after watching alex lifeson play one here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKe7i5KFYr1grck

[@SlyHikari03]

Definitely. Would make sense for that purpose.

[@danield_sounds]

Amazing space funk jam . The LP is one of my all time fav synths !

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@cheesewave]

The thing thats unusual about Little Phattys is that the oscillator level has a big impact on tone and how the envelopes behave. It will also affect how much overdrive occurs. If you keep the osc level low the envelopes have a more pronouced effect and everything behaves in a more predictable way. On other Moogs and most other synths this is not something you really have to consider as much. Most people just crank the osc level and then find this one awkward to mix or oddly untweakable. Its similar to how the VCA level affects the envelopes on Yamaha CS synths

[@AudioPilz]

Great input, thanks!

[@tomasmulcahymusic]

Oh, very true. The CS are weird. Cannot really get that sound with Arturia CS80V.

[@poopoppy]

Nice Tip!! :)

[@AJOrpheo]

Its gotten to the point where I dont even care if it ticks all the boxes, I just wanna hear what pilz can wordplay up for each synth 🤣

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@boriscat1999]

The best are the "instruments" where Pilz can't say "ticks all the boxes" with a straight face.

[@colinrussell2017]

I believe he is "thickening all the boxes" in THIS video if you listen closely 😂

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

Hahaha same and the crazy video edits 🔥👌🏾

[@MegaCraptacular]

And princess Leia everytime he says "layers" 😂

[@TheWongKeys]

Playing this thing live and turning up louder than sound check and shaking the venue is where this synth shines! ❤️❤️❤️❤❤ P.S. too my sound guy, sorry for blowing a sub last time we played flashlight 😭

[@SymphonyX3000]

Wow. I never expected to see a Moog slayed in this series. I own two pieces of analog gear: a Juno-60 and a Little Phatty. While I certainly agree with the limitations and frustrating elements of its design (particularly the need to dive into menus often), man does it sound good to me. I'm not sure how anyone can hear the recordings you made in this video and not feel like, despite its quirks, this thing makes incredible sound.

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, it really defined the sound of a few genres

[@chuckshartz2722]

@@AudioPilz I recently bought a phatty off reverb… in toxic green lighting too, 1of 30 ever made. It took some getting used to the controls, but immediately I saw it was far simpler to use than my SUB 25. It took a bit of tweaking and understanding the menu toggle on the phatty , but once I did, I was able to find a solid baseline to start patching with. And after some more tweaking… boom… I found exactly what I was looking for in terms of a lead synth sound The little phatty blows the SUB 25 and 37s doors all day. Hell… if it’s good enough for Geddy Lee…

[@pmwmartens]

I am really starting to suspect you of actually being the best synth reviewer out there.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@MegaCadr]

Given English is (presumably) not your first language, I am endlessly impressed by your pun game.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!! I'm from Austria so I'm even struggling with real German😂😂😂

[@needfortweed8734]

Oh dear! Another holy cow massacred!

[@AudioPilz]

The cow says Moo(g;)

[@needfortweed8734]

@@AudioPilz wise cow. Wise cow indeed. I also didn't do the sacred deed of writing first on my comment. I might have gotten wise meself...

[@TheSemtexCow]

Easy on the cow insults folks 🐄 😂

[@needfortweed8734]

@@TheSemtexCow I will respect what you say due to your nick. I will not insult...

[@TheSemtexCow]

@@needfortweed8734 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hitsonacousticguitar]

Could we have a picdump with the memes?

[@AudioPilz]

Great idea, thanks!!

[@antonisdiamantis3555]

I've owned a Phatty for, like, 10 years and still was amazed by the sounds you coaxed out of it on Space Funk! Excellent job!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@leolagarde2887]

Never had any midi issues?

[@kaitlyn__L]

Re the tuning, maybe Bob Moog wanted to cater for the people with old 435Hz pianos lol. (Don’t even mention the 432 lot tho) Jam 1 had a nice smooth vibe! I hummed along with and correctly predicted the key changes, but that’s actually good for that vibe I’d say. Not sure if the visuals for Anti-Gravity Upsidaisium Retro Sci-fi Psychedelic Soul Space Funk were already overly digitally sharpened like that when you got them or if those were one of the effects you applied, but that hurt my eyes lol

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks! Don't thing Bob Moog was a 432 guy;)

[@FLUFFYCAT_PNW]

Glad to see you're well, and still not shy to tear down the legends. Amazing track as always.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@neuzethmusic131]

Seems like AudioPilz turned into CashflowPliz... what's up next? Yum-aha CS-80?

[@AudioPilz]

CS-80 - really bad for your back;)

[@Dieqx]

For a non-synthesizerist such as myself all of gear presented by you will always have some use, which is quite fitting, because my music is bad.

[@MatthewChristianMurray]

Lol

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️

[@zap7759]

It's all relative to everyone. Generally bad gear will give you unique results 😆

[@SourJovis]

I like Moog, but I don't think it's a bad thing you put their synths on the show occasionally. I don't know if the Little Phatty is considered bad gear, but nothing is perfect. There must be some flaws. Personally I don't like the UI with the rubber buttons instead of the pods the later Sub's have. Still I remember this as a lesser episode. Looking at it again it isn't as bad as I remember. I don't like the first 2 jams, especially the second one. Too dissonant with the combination of unconventional harmonies, the weird effects, the synth goes out of tune too much, the mix is too cluttered and seems unbalanced. The third jam is great and the intro tune worked out as well. You can put Moog gear in your episodes anytime as far as I'm concerned. Wonder which one you will pick first.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!! Great input!

[@synthlord2368]

Yay! It's Friday. Can't take my lunch break without watching Florian's witty bad gear reviews! Happy Friday Florian!

[@AudioPilz]

Have a nice weekend!!!

[@shnixbot]

TGIBGF. I feel you

[@willingdealer]

Yo but really, screw Moog. These union-busters got the nerve to charge 3k for middling hardware while there workers, who make the synths can’t afford one!

[@AudioPilz]

Shots fired!

[@organfairy]

"The Moog voltage controlled synthesizer - theoretically capable of creating every sound imaginable, but most of the time sounding like a cat chewing on a bee" (quote from 'the Alchemists of sound')

[@AudioPilz]

Lol, good one!!!

[@sprungjitsu8465]

Man those wheels shouldnt become sticky. They couldve used different plastics or coat those things. I think this is super disappointing. I mean this is no pocket calculator.. The quality should be on point

[@peterjones596]

Ooh, sacriledge! Come on people, let's get the burning torches and pitchforks out! As always, quality tunes of unique genres, no matter how bad the kit is. I'm loving Space Funk!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@hannesbengsch5515]

Most of the times I hear the classic phatty or sub sound, I always get the thought, many of the dudes that bought one have the ambiguous feeling, why they spent all that cash and still don’t sound like that bald Bodzin german guy.

[@AudioPilz]

Bodzin is the ultimate modern moog master

[@seedmole]

Bout to watch this on 1/4 speed in another monitor so i can catch all the memes

[@AudioPilz]

Nice technique!!!

[@brettmaddan3255]

Man you are rocking my world, you have had The Rugged Man, the weird chap from Sirisumo's Itchy Cornerboy, and now El-P from Run The Jewels in your memage! You really are ticking all the boxes, so I have also ticked all the boxes on your Patreon. Thank you and keep on making my Friday's better!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!! See you on the other side!!! Big RTJ fan for years now...

[@brettmaddan3255]

​@@AudioPilz Have you heard this? Sirisumo - Itchy Cornerboy, the end synths are insane

[@lordundhimself1310]

@@AudioPilz RTJ! 🤘🏿

[@Ouefdie]

Oida, how do you pump out a video with this much production value out every week? Jams are bangin, memes are on point, even the editing is *chef's kiss*! Do you even sleep?

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!! I try to get 6-8h a day

[@Agerian7]

Hey man, just so you know it's pronounced "moog" not "moog"

[@AudioPilz]

Ah, good to know. I thought it was "moog"

[@JB-zi3dr]

Proud owner of an LP Tribute that has the main man's signature. Sure it's limited but it sounds frickin' great - especially with the async distortion.

[@AudioPilz]

Nice!

[@chuckshartz2722]

Even more limiting is the SUB 25. And while the 37 has tons more features than the 25, the little phatty sounds way better than either of them. The SUBs are obnoxiously overpowering too

[@satanmacnuggit]

Soooo....where's your FIRST Portasound show?? PSS-680? DSR-2000?? Taps foot!

[@AudioPilz]

I know, that should be on top of my list!

[@СергейГорбачев-я3г]

It seems like ms-10 with eyes closed

[@AudioPilz]

True that!

[@VestedUTuber]

Honestly, I'm fine with Moog equipment showing up on the show. I'm just surprised that so many actually ended up on here, and it really seems like most of the complaints are either from people not really understanding the equipment (DFAM, even the Mother32 to an extent) or a good instrument that just happens to have some flaws with things not directly related to producing sound (Little Fatty, Spectravox)

[@AudioPilz]

Let's say Moog's history is kind of twisted - that creates a lot of controversy

[@paulbmorgan]

Always loved the design of this Moog but comes at a heart attack inducing price where I live. Still love my Bass Station II and Roland SE-02; the sounds these synths produce are close enough for me when emulating a Moog. Still, I wouldn't mind owning a Moog LP should the opportunity arise...oh, and this episode has to hold the record for the most memes in 10 minutes, perfection, as usual, thanks.

[@AudioPilz]

SE-02 is much more versatile!!! Thanks!

[@danielhasselkuss679]

Hello Audio Pilz, can you please tell me, which Synthesizer(s) were used in the "space funk"-part😋? By the way: 3 Oscillators of my Vermona PerFOURmer MK II through the DOEPFER Oberheim SEM-FILTER cover a lot of classic minimoog-sounds. Even my Jupiter-4 can do some minimoog-Sounds, which I found by "happy little accidents". And both closer (100% or very nearby) than many modern moogs or clones!!! Why? Especially in the beginning in the 70ies EVERY company wanted to sound like moog. Oberheim SEM was designed to be an expander for the minimoog!!! I strongly recommend to add eurorack to EVERY studio. Don't fear the rabbit-hole. Imagine, what you get with only one small row. A very flexible 2-Oscillator-Mono-Synth. Add a second row and you already have a Swiss army knife. Enough to explore, you don't need more! In my personal opinion DOEPFER delivers top build quality combined with high-class-sound. Both together hard to find at all. You get a wide sound-palette from Vintage to modern precision. I personally recommend a "mostly-doepfer" Systems (minimum 75%). Try Mixers and VCAs (both totally underrated types of modules!!!) from other companies in order to get more different Sound-Colors.

[@AudioPilz]

It's all Little Phatty except for the drums. Sorry but Eurorack is just too addictive for me!

[@Tyler_Durden987]

Moog is not, and will never be exempt from this show. Get 'em, Florian!

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️

[@RayyMusik]

Sounds great, i.e. like a Moog, but the UI is horrible. Fortunately Moog (the company) later fixed this with the Sub(sequent) 37 which has been my favorite mono synth for years.

[@AudioPilz]

Agreed!!!

[@dannyanalog4423]

The last Real moog Synthesizer, i bought it in the year 2008 and his sound is still killer, the LP is a Real BASSMONSTER.today i still love my lp. You can hear in the sound the skills of Bob. Wath more can i say, the last Real Moog!!

[@AudioPilz]

👍

[@____.__._.._]

Me to friend: Check out my Moog, I can do FM here.. Friend: JUST MAKE FAT PWM BASS Me: But.. look.. I can assign LFO to stuff and now it's more fu.. F: JUST FAT BASS NOW use DA FILTAH And then people are complaining about cliches in music

[@AudioPilz]

Sometimes they're just true;)

[@Gtunes39]

Tested the rage waters last week with a 303 clone fake-out to follow-up with a real Moog, bold strategy Cotton... that Space Funk jam is among my favs you have done now!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!! What strategy?;)

[@iwanttocomplain]

@@AudioPilz it’s from Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story

[@GeorgeL909]

Ughhh mooooggg it just sounds sooo gooooodd 🥺😑 those raw oscillator sounds and that filter sweep.... Ughh 😑🤢 I really... it's just sooo good 😑🤢🤮😌☺️ ah. I feel better now.

[@AudioPilz]

Lol

[@NGC0Music]

NO HE DIDN'T - Part 2

[@AudioPilz]

Sometimes you have to go for the big animals;)

[@NGC0Music]

@@AudioPilz after watching the video, I think it deserves to be mentioned here, mainly because of the interface/menus, the best Moogs are usually knob-per-function.

[@elarielo]

WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT MY SLIM PHATTY? Ah, you were talking about the Little Phatty? Thank god they are completely and absolutely unrelated. Carry on then.

[@AudioPilz]

Lol

[@dijjidog]

Florian last week: no I didn't put a tb303 on the show, sorry for the clickbait Florian this week: yes I put another moog on the show

[@AudioPilz]

At least it's definitely not clickbait;)

[@ChristopherOrth]

"...surprised by the tonal limitation." What? Paying top dollar for the "lazerfart" sound wasn't enough? That would be a great (and revealing) contest though... make your Moog not sound like a Moog.

[@AudioPilz]

Top Dollar Lazer Fart😂😂😂

[@marzacdev]

You nailed it. It sounds good but it can only make 3 to 4 different sounds. Nice video.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@jonotwycross8998]

no you make big fm and crazy vocal synth sounds ! it was disappointing to start with ,but you soon get gr8 sounds , i love playing it . i many have vst synth oo and dx7

[@shaft9000]

Well, for that matter - when was the minimoog _ever_ anything more than *a one-note organ that also made cat yowls?* 😜

[@TheIndustrialRetrospective]

Do the Subharmonicon next, its truly awful

[@AudioPilz]

Great suggestion, thanks!!!

[@TheIndustrialRetrospective]

@@AudioPilz it sounds great, but it so finicky and takes FOREVER to get anything usable out of

[@desktorp]

5:10 blyechh... I retired an old M-Audio Keystation for that exact problem. I eventually got up the gumption to disassemble it and used 90% alcohol to remove the rubberized coating, but now the wheels are almost too slippery to use, because the plastic is so smooth. Meanwhile, I have a much older Casio that has a pitch wheel with the classic grooved plastic texture that still works and feels great.

[@AudioPilz]

The horror...

[@ToyKeeper]

Speaking of Yamaha Portasounds... I spent the 80s and 90s with a PS-6100, and it was terrible. I spent that time yearning for the screeching laser-cricket sounds of a Korg MS-20 resonant filter, but all I had was the cheesiest cheese to ever come out of the early 80s digital revolution. It was at least built like a tank, though. It stayed in good working condition until my mother finally sold it in 2022.

[@AudioPilz]

Nice one!!!

[@ThomasHerlofsen]

My all time favourite synth. I sold it because I wanted to explore other options, but this is my real baby..

[@AudioPilz]

❤️

[@DerekPower]

Interstellar MOOG55 ... or something ... I'm too tired to come up with something clever here =D

[@AudioPilz]

All good, thanks!!!

[@RobPapen]

It is a very cool underrated synth, with a fantastic basic sound. I use it on stage as a replacement of my MiniMoog which I keep in my studio. Compared to for instance a Sub37 it has a far brighter sound. Sub37 is great for bass, but with lead sounds, the Little Phatty is much smoother in sound. Of course... all a matter of taste. I replaced the sticky side panels today with Walnote panels and if I would improve this synth, the only thing I would do is add a 2nd modulation target option. With Sync sounds it is cool to use the Envelope to change the pitch of the synced oscillator. But for this, you have to keep the Mod.Wheel open and then there is no way to use the LFO for pitch modulation by using the ModWheel. But taking the MiniMoog in mind, this one offers preset memory and some additional features. Is it fully sounding the same as my MiniMoog? No... but it is getting very close, and in the music hard to hear the difference. My2Cent

[@AudioPilz]

Interesting summary!!! Thanks!!!

[@RobPapen]

@@AudioPilz The Little Phatty is a reel gem. Your song at the end is lovely! Shows also the audio quality of this synth. Bye the way, this video below is telling in difference of tone between the Little Phatty and Sub range Moogs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ2XpGqFoqmmq8U

[@cborkowski]

It sounds ... uh.... PHAT? That's the thing about a Moog, in isolation they're huge, the Fatty does seem a bit lacking in features and built quality. That being said, everyone should own at least one Moog. I have a Sub 37 that I got at the right time in 2019 for the right price and I will never sell it. The only other synth I can say that about is the Virus T1 Polar I got used for an insanely good price from some guy in Turkey.

[@AudioPilz]

Nice, a T1 - I really want to try one of these!

[@MatthewChristianMurray]

If you’re doing Moog, you should demo the Minitaur. I have it and it is PHENOMENAL for bass and mid-range leads, but it only goes up to about a C5 (I think), so you can’t do high notes with it. But that bass!

[@AudioPilz]

Great suggestion, thanks!!!

[@shaft9000]

My studio mate has one, and I have a LP tribute. If you layer both an overdriven LP (w/ subtle osc sync) with a minitaur you can achieve the fabled _Beefalo Bass_ patch. (Well, it WILL be fabled as soon as the right song for it is written, recorded, mixed... and some payola gets _paid_ :)

[@jaydeepalmer]

Absolute crap, i'll recycle it for you 😉

[@alexwestconsulting]

Yup, I've got 2 Minitaurs (and a Little Phatty). I wouldn't part with any of them. I keep trying to swap at least one of the Minitaurs with a Sirin, but that stupid thing's price has just gone ridiculous. I got both Minitaurs each for less than a quarter what Sirin is going for.

[@joedent3323]

Is the Minitaur responsible for the phat bassline from AiRs "Sexy Boy"?

[@citruesilver]

Now I've seen everything: A mid priced moog gets covered by Bad Gear 😄. Guys put down the pitchforks, Florian has a point there (luv the politically incorrect name though). At the end of the day it's all about the poles isn't it? Fat and smooth sound as moousual... Looking forward to the next video 👍

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@jeremyrmcmahan]

I will never not love my Little Phatty. It’s my ride or die.

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@secretelitemusic]

Overpriced and underwhelming, imho. You could get an SE-1X in near mint condition for less, with zero menu diving, a lot more banks, and farty fatness for days. A MonoPoly, original or Mehringer, would also tick most of the useable thwubby bass boxes. It has a few sweet spots, but not enough to trigger my dopamine valve. The mere fact that the BadGearMoby Jams were kinda short, and notsofunkyaswe'reusedto is a tell. Trade it for a few more TB3s and stack them until Thanos appears and begs you to stop.

[@AudioPilz]

SE-1X - nice one!!!

[@Andyanddiana467]

Heh, I was actually the assistant coordinator at the event this thing was unveiled: Moogfest 2006, at the now defunct BB kings in NY. I remember how excited everyone was for this. I even got to goof around with one of the first floor models.

[@r0ck53n]

0:27 What the...?!? "Switched on Nashville" is not a Meme, but is an actual album! Crazy stuff.

[@AudioPilz]

I have to find a copy!!!

[@BenWard29]

Love the video Florian. While the Stage II didn't come with it, there was also a CV Out mod that Moog would sell you (one of the models came with the modification installed, I beleive). I had the Stage II as well, and ordered the CV Out Mod for, if I remember correctly, around $100 (in 2012). It came with a new panel for the right side of the unit, and was mostly connecting wire harnesses- not too difficult. It had 5 CV outs- Gate, Pitch, Mod Bus, Vol Env & Filter Env. Noise was routable to the Mod Bus out. I used it for basic CV control with the rest of my setup- a Moog MP-201 Multipedal, Moog CP-251 Control Processor, a Moogerfooger MF-104SD Super Delay, an EHX Bi-Filter and a Dave Smith Tempest. The MP-201 was really something- sadly it doesn't bleep or bloop so I don't expect to see it on here. EHX Bi-Filter was pretty cool, too- a rack mount EHX product, which was a nicer Mu-Tron III. The Little Phatty definitely locks you into a certain sound. Which can be a good thing, I suppose- as limitations do breed creativity. But damn if those were the sounds you wanted/needed, it had no end to the funky drip. It was all very Moog of the late 2000s, early 2010s- a company at a crossroads, not knowing quite where to go next- but with an amazing pedigree and excellent engineering (the UX/UI was not so great)- a company lost among the Korgs, Access and Waldorfs- looking for some kind of inspiration or direction. Kind of like how our entire culture felt for the first 15 years of the new millenium. So sad I that I had to sell it all of it when I got laid off. Music is nice, but eating and not getting evicted is just a little bit nicer...

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!! Food supply is super important, I feel you!

[@randymeinderts6234]

Pita for controls... Yep, even though if you use it live it prevents accidental encoder turning 😅 HOWEVER: I have a voyager xl and a mother 32 as well, the phatty blows both completely away when it comes to deep warm bass sounds. So yeah.. taste i guess :) i love them all

[@AudioPilz]

I'd love a spice-controlled instrument;)

[@Leviathan-mj8gi]

Moog is the only company that releases new synths with less technology then previous synths, so the model D had 3 oscillators and a noise source, little phatty, released over 35 years later, has two oscillators, no noise source, and less knobs.. thanks Moog for pushing the evelope of technology! And the original was wood, these melt into a puddle of sticky goo..

[@AudioPilz]

The horror...

[@codewizard58]

The only gear I do not use are my Roli Blocks. Love my Roli Seaboard Rise 49 though. Since these are just controllers they probably don't count.

[@AudioPilz]

Great suggestion, thanks!!! I would not really be able to play it tho

[@spaceman103]

When you start thinking about it, there are a lot of Moog products that qualify for the Bad Gear shredder… You opened Pandora’s box!

[@shaft9000]

Might as well shred any of the the Voyagers, too. And _end it all_ with the One.

[@AudioPilz]

True that!

[@spaceman103]

@@shaft9000 It will be a massacre☠️. I wonder what will be left. I’ll better check if my (third due to quality issues) Sub37 still works…

[@thirstyCactus]

I'm glad it wasn't just me. Definitely some cognitive dissonance when a piece of Moog gear is so disappointing. Happy to forgive the crappy build quality, but the underwhelming, one-sided sound quality, nah. Any manufacturer is fair game if they make bad gear. Favoritism leads to lies. Lies lead to anger. Anger leads to hate. And, hate leads to the dark side.

[@AudioPilz]

True words you spoken have

[@miklosmesterhazy2639]

Your vdeos are so enjoyable, I don't even mind if you make the next one about an ob-6. 😁

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@Syntox]

It's like Bob looked at the main complaint about the Microkorg and said GIMME THAT

[@AudioPilz]

Lol, so true!

[@kirbydjentleman6010]

Hahahah as always a very nice video! and you allmost had me struggling but then I remembered that most of those limitations are part of its superpower. As I stopped appreciating analogue synthesizers for their versatility and started adding a synthesizer to my studio only if it has its very own gap to fill with a strong enough character to not overlap too much with other models, it becomes high value to know what synth is a go to for certain tasks in productions. In this case and context of the design you understand how precisely moog nailed this misson of creating a sturdy stage bass and lead machine in the early 2000s that cuts through the mix with an easy access filter overload sound. ❤

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!! That sums it up nicely

[@Vergarecords]

...and thus I sold mine. I could have made this video

[@AudioPilz]

👍

[@JimmiG84]

At the time it was one of the cheapest and most accessible way to get some Moog ladder filter goodness. While not letting you adjust resonance and cutoff at the same time was a bit of a fail, it was a decent synth for its time. Currently a happy owner of an SE-02, but a used LP was a strong candidate while I was shopping for an affordable Moog-style synth.

[@AudioPilz]

I would definitely prefer the SE-02 to the LP

[@shaft9000]

It is also a legit stage synth (Geddy Lee, etc) everything else analog and under $2k at the time was a desktop or rack.

[@shaft9000]

you adjust resonance and cutoff at the same time using the pedal input e.g. w/ the EP3 or whatever CV controller you have

[@samyar]

Isn't God a Moog? That makes this review, morally and legally illegal. Further I own one...🧐

[@AudioPilz]

Separation of synth and state;)

[@kcahdp]

Space Funk is the best!

[@AudioPilz]

SPAAAAAAAAAACE FUUUUUUUUUUUUNK!!!

[@janickimusic]

Bad gear is nerdy cool. LP was my first analog synth. I borrowed it from my friend and afterwards I decided to buy Subsequent37… but my other two synths already have been showed here… microkorg & model d… :) bad gear seems to be my fav..

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@adriangarver3246]

I have had one since new - dead reliable gigging with including tours. Definitely limited but perfect for my previous use as a taurus pedal substitute (played with midi foot controller while playing guitar). Now part of a studio setup with a Juno 60 and MS2000. Useful on absulutely evey song...

[@AudioPilz]

Great setup!

[@entropybentwhistle]

Ugh, I put my Sub37 to the side for my Arp Odyssey because I have limited rack space and the wheels went gooey like you mentioned on the Phatty. This has never happened for me on any other synth, and I’ve had a couple dozen. I haven’t tried any of the internet degunking methods yet, but geez, it’s a Moog. I expected wiser material choices on their components.

[@AudioPilz]

The horror...

[@nhand42]

Space Funk is the genre I never knew I needed.

[@AudioPilz]

There's plenty of nice Space Funk from the 70s;)

[@slowpunkforslowpunks2050]

Oh my, yes. Get thee to the Parliament/Funkadelic section, and explore from there.

[@LondonSteveLee]

I can understand why people want a hand-build synth with "Moog" written on it - but - 99.9% of people listening wouldn't tell it from a VSTi (or care either way) - that' the reality of the matter - if the individual owner likes it - great. But don't expect to be hero worshipped for it!

[@AudioPilz]

👍

[@M1k1haus]

That space funk was a banger.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@NinoMakos]

I have a theory that AudioPilz is actually a time traveller from a future where no memes existed. He thought they should exist, then went back in time, created all gifs and memes known to humankind and decided to share his creation with the world: sprinkled into a timeless show about the world's most hated audio tools.

[@AudioPilz]

Pilzception

[@KiR_3d]

Seems a bit limited... And I can't mentally afford a mono-synth for this price since 2018 :))

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, so many choices around!

[@jerzilla3795]

I have a better proposition: You can’t review another Moog until you get a MemoryMoog on this show. I promise you it definitely deserves to be on here!

[@AudioPilz]

MemoryMoog is classic Bad Gear! True!!!

[@nicholas6870]

probably the best sounding polyphonic synth ever made

[@danpreston564]

Moog, they cost a lot but they’re built so well. My Sub37 is not my first, Dodgy key beds and knackered circuit boards had to be negotiated before I got one that worked. The keys are now so yellow it’s ridiculous. The wheels are too sticky to ever want to use. The headphone Jack worked for about 5 minutes. Things ain’t what they used to be.

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, it shouldn't be like that

[@fjfrancois]

Your videos never fail, they make fridays more intense 😊 what happened with Moog, no more affordable synths with patch memories 😢

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@workingorder2189]

First Roland Then Moog Next Sequential circuits. AudioPilz will not rest until he takes down all the synth giants.

[@AudioPilz]

Already had the Mopho on the show;)

[@przemekl4031]

Waiting for the New Depeche Mode Song and a new Bad Gear episode drops Life could not be better than this

[@AudioPilz]

Nice, I have to listen to some DM too today!

[@kenfusion]

Same here ! Thanks for the heads up . I did not know there was new Depeche Mode 😃

[@pizzagogo6151]

This is a fair call...As much as companies like ..ahem roland😮 deserve to be on bad gear for Ill thought out products never understood why certain companies get a free pass....imho many Moog instruments seem to rely too much on “legacy & brand name” rather than delivering what they should for the premium they charge.

[@AudioPilz]

True that!

[@dvdny]

Usually I has to pause to read the memes, this time I had to rewind often because I was still laughing from the last meme. Best video yet, on all counts! That sound ticks all the boxes for me, I may now have to finally unbox my Sub/Slim Phatty combo I've been storing. 🙏

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@edoksc]

Hellooooo bless u again form this show, is My friday date😎❤️what about something from jomox?! Like the t-resonator or the m-brane?!

[@AudioPilz]

LOVE Jomox!!! Let's see if I can find enough controversy

[@RND_ADV_X]

6:00 This jam brought me serious "assault on precinct zero" era Plaid vibes, fantastic stuff as always!

[@AudioPilz]

😃😃😃Thanks!

[@Alavux]

nice show Flo ! Happy Birthday (which is next friday sorry !) ;)

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!! Yeah, next week!!!

[@dodgingrain3695]

Having had one for about 10 years you are right in your evaluation of it, sounds more or less like a moog but is stupidly limited. Trying to fill an entire bank of sounds that are unique from each other is really difficult.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!!

[@sportsman6931]

It is not perfect by any means and the UI from Little Phatty is lacking, but a much better take on Moog's classic sound than Sub Phatty, which is along Slim Phatty another good Moog candidate for bad gear, see you next time!

[@AudioPilz]

Great suggestion, thanks!

[@ClifBratcher]

Do the Minimoog Model D next! 😅

[@AudioPilz]

You mean the Behringer synth Moog has cloned?;)

[@irradix213]

He'd been rolling in the grave since Mike took over the place, let alone the shenanigans of the last year, half my friends are worth half as much as if they'd sold 2yrs ago, apparently the Sub 37 was my patron's(and old bandmate) baby and he's so modest i had to learn that elsewhere, the only thing I've heard him say was the payoff isn't even gonna be worth expecting, and he'd been there 15yrs

[@AudioPilz]

Super interested in the Sub37

[@danielortizdecaracas]

casi que me da un infarto , pense que hoy no salia mi episodio de mi canal favorito

[@AudioPilz]

¡¡¡no te preocupes!!!

[@DurararaX2]

(If he's bashing the beloved Phatty, he must be running out of gear to bash. Uli better keep paying him or it'll be Burger Bash 2023)

[@AudioPilz]

God I love Uli 😂 😂 😂

[@petermiller5350]

You just badgear-reviewed my favorite synth of all time and I loved every second of it

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@magusreaver]

Welcome to the club. :) He gets to all of us eventually.

[@magusreaver]

I'm pretty sure he's done all of my 2000-2010 gear.

[@mrudo8663]

Always the same question how do we pronounce moog like mug or like MOG? The moog Theramin in is a rip off (expensive as he'll) and I personal find it hard to be patience enough to reduce the sound (fatness) of it to a value where it does not kill a song with it..

[@AudioPilz]

There is an interview with the master himself where he clears that up (he doesn't care tho;)

[@gaetan4164]

I had one and I loved it. It sounds massive. Really easy to program. Nothing really wrong with it, although I wish they'd have 2 knobs for cutoff and resonance. It's absolutely a live synth imo. In 2023 the architecture seems a bit dated but it's a classic so not really a problem, especially for the price.

[@AudioPilz]

👍

[@mostbirnen4030]

You can control it via MIDI, Also all menu hidden parameters!