Bad Movie Fights vs Good Movie Fights, Vol. 4

The Matrix has some of the best fight scenes in cinema history...but what is it inspired by? How good are movies like Kung Fu Hustle, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, The Batman, Indiana Jones, They Live when it comes to first scenes?
And who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee & Jet Li?
And the worst? Steven Seagal might be in the video again...maybe?
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[@GMitchell2012]

Talk about bad editing what happened @12:17? (Edit) Ps your audio is all over the place.

[@roydelpozo4816]

Chan . Own crazy Stunts sold me 4 decades ago !

[@jdso686]

Hey I wanted to know if you could review the movie monkey man and the show warrior

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

also Lee obv iously, he had feel, Chan is a master of his craft but nah man, Lee opened China to the west, paved the way for them.

[@Mommy-kima]

I don't know why people dont include Batman from 2022 more,it's technically the most realistic on what would happen in a fight.

[@badger297]

Im telling you, if you were a 12-14 year old boy in the early 2000s, BLADE was the coolest fucking thing we'd ever seen.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

YES!!!!!

[@AzureRoxe]

Honestly, even NOW Blade is badass as hell. The opening for the first movie is still one of the most cool and badass moments in general.

[@DJ-pp4mt]

That was me and I had his replica throwing knife and I thought I was the coolest🤣

[@ChakkravutChinalai]

Wesley had all the skills. Donnie Yen in Blade 2 is pure badass also.

[@saucyb3585]

I liked it better than the Matrix. That opening scene is just amazing

[@cjcollan4689]

The nobody bus scene is a perfect microcosm of an older underdog fighting against odds from something we all can agree to fight for (the girl on the bus) plus the implication of his own pride. The fact he saved the last guy by stopping him from choking shows he wanted to beat them, not kill them. A masterclass in what makes a fight scene amazing

[@garrick3727]

I like how the speed of the first attacker caught him off guard. When you're older, you don't fee like your reflexes are worse until something puts them to the test. He adapts to the situation by being more aggressive and up close, so that their better reflexes don't matter as much. Then his experience allows him to counter their limited options.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Brilliant analysis!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Yes and yes! He was a bit rusty too - as he hadn't fought in years :)

[@theguileraven7014]

If only the rest of the movie kept that energy. lol

[@ChanceGuevara]

​​@@MarcusFlemmingswhen he gets back up after being thrown out the Windows to walkback in Is just so damn raw why You got in the thumbnail like it's a shit fight man?!?

[@strateupgamr7]

Its not just the brutality or the context behind the bus scene, its the honesty. No lampshading with intense action music. No boring guns. It's literally "I'm gonna fuck you up." And it fucking does.

[@Es-zb8vu]

"No boring guns" You have never seen John Wick.

[@rvmen1065]

i didnt see it mentioned in the video whats that movies name? it looks amazing

[@BaulFoodmanedits]

@@Es-zb8vuJohn Wick is known for making guns not boring specifically tho so not really sure what you’re trying to say

[@thangluongviet6461]

what's that movie name?

[@MoistMozzarellaSticks]

​@@rvmen1065"Nobody"

[@steps3344]

> "Remember, no gunfights." > First scene, a gunfight.

[@thegiantratthatmakesalloft9415]

>le funny green arrow meme >le XD

[@tarekcat1]

Grrrr i hate > arrows

[@PeptoAbismol]

@@thegiantratthatmakesalloft9415 funniest jerma fan vs random greentext

[@sarah69420]

@@PeptoAbismoljerma is everywhere. He lives behind my eyelids. He must have escaped containment.

[@alberteinstein6365]

(Sad John wick noses)

[@kilochampion787]

The fact that Keanu was injured during the Matrix fight, really makes it that much more impressive

[@contrapasso1539]

Actors, good or bad who sacrifice their bodies on the line of duty always get my respect. F in chat for Viggo Mortgensen's big toe

[@sarah69420]

@@contrapasso1539everyone forgets about Sean Astin's foot that filled with blood and he had to be helicoptered out 😭

[@pabloc8808]

Man, I'll say, love the video, but it's criminal that you mentioned Jackie Chan and didn't include the legendary Drunken Master II factory fight. It is a masterpiece of choreography, and, imo, his finest work Edit: people commented saying Jackie Chan had other works that surpass the factory fight scene from Drunken Master II. I respect that but my opinion remains unchanged: it isn't Chan's finest choreography overall, but the stunts, the props, and the gravity-defying moves he pulls in that scene, along with the excuse-plot, still make it the best for me. It is a matter of opinion though, so I won't try to change anybody's mind

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Agreed! BUT ....a huge but (a J Lo) - that will be featured properly in a video about Chan! The scene deserves a breakdown and not just some clips!

[@b0zz1380y]

@@MarcusFlemmingscan you do the fight scene from the punisher movie with the Russian please?

[@pabloc8808]

@@MarcusFlemmings I'll be looking forward to that, after all if Bruce Lee is the man when it comes to martial arts in movies, Jackie Chan is the man who made martial arts in movies entertaining and memorable

[@TabsT-vy5jy]

Police story 1 Police story 2 Armour of god Meals on wheels Dragons forever Those are his finest work.

[@ajzorger93]

I love the carriage fight in the first Drunken Master

[@jamesmocharski4803]

Absolutely love the running gag of the seemingly never ending fight scene from “They Live,” just popping up again and again throughout the entire video. It truly is how that scene felt watching it over and over again as a kid on HBO. A bit silly, yet absolutely brutal.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Pahahahaha! That scene is ridiculous but also AMAZING!! What a film!

[@aaronleverton4221]

Then you may appreciate The Man From Hong Kong.

[@block4562]

They're still fighting in that alley today

[@Lil.Grandpa]

Still trying to get him to put on the glasses.

[@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266]

It felt like a real fight. Both were beating the shit out of each other, but clearly without lethal intent so, like in reality, it kept going on and on 😅

[@dubya13207]

Lee for breaking ground, Chan for tearing it to shreds Also…Blue Eye Samurai, Episode 5

[@MarcusFlemmings]

BIG shout! Love it!

[@iamnorth9435]

Lack of appreciation for Jet Li tho is haunting :(

[@GreaterSociety]

Wait u watch anime?

[@RedGhoulAnimation]

Jackie Chan is the goat bro

[@King-yj2jx]

@@GreaterSociety Yea, who doesn't? Losers?

[@CardiacYew-xt5zq]

21:31 what I love about Nobody is that it’s always an uphill battle for him because of his age, he isn’t in his prime anymore but can still hold his own but you can see him wearing down after each blow

[@MasterJack2]

Bob Odenkirk is not an action movie actor and he is far from prime. But when you have a dedicated actor, a good director and a competent fight choreographer you can achieve great things. This scene was excellent.

[@CardiacYew-xt5zq]

@@MasterJack2 oh I meant as in story, the main character (forgot his name) isn’t in his prime anymore

[@breadproductions957]

00:10 why are they all taking turns lol

[@apolloisnotashirt]

cus feminism.

[@little_lord_tam]

Because you cant write cool scenes without that. IP man had that too btw

[@plstmb6000]

So many swords flailing around and none of them wearing body protection, i would guess they are scared of friendly fire.

[@warrenkeystone5195]

@@apolloisnotashirtfeminism is when a movie does something it's always done since the dawn of film making

[@abcdefg-ox6mu]

@@warrenkeystone5195feminism is when woman

[@gilliganinja]

The scene shown from Inception wasn't wire work, it was a full hallway set built in a frame that could fully rotate like that

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Yes, for sure! i was more talking about how effects/filmmaking that breaks the idea of gravity are perfectly used in both films :)

[@gilliganinja]

​@MarcusFlemmings ah, gotcha! Then I completely agree, the wire work in Inception was fantastic!

[@ARavingLobster]

​​@@MarcusFlemmings I mean you stated Inception was probably the second best wirework after the Matrix, that was the whole premise of your sentence at 2:33. There's really no reason to pretend like you knew it was a rotating set considering you used it as an example of some of the best wirework ever done. Better to just acknowledge that you learned something new from the commenter and thank them for the insight and correction.

[@jasonklark82]

@@ARavingLobster Nah

[@zacharynguyen7286]

@@ARavingLobsterthat’s a good point

[@vregile]

I'm so incredibly glad Scott Atkins got recognized for his work as Boyka

[@MarcusFlemmings]

He is a legend!

[@hogwatch1976]

Don’t forget his epic work in Doctors 😂 his fights in Metal Hurlant are excellent

[@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266]

Yet they forgot to mention Michael Jai White was the original protagonist from the series once again 😅

[@Selrisitai]

Check out Avengement if you haven't seen it before. I didn't even know Scott Atkins COULD ACT until that movie, and now I'm still confused at how good he is.

[@PLNKYELLOWBLACK]

@@Selrisitaiyou gotta watch accident man and the debt collector if you haven’t already. He’s actually a solid actor as well as an excellent martial artist and stunt man/choreographer. Accident man has Michael Jai White and, fuckin Darth Maul himself, Ray Park in it

[@ZockFromWien]

Bruce Lee: The Pioneer. From a martial arts standpoint: absolutely crazy. I think many people can´t even realize, how insane his physicality and martial arts skills were. Jackie Chan: better choreography, more creative scenes, more funny, perfected the art in his own style

[@finlaymma]

Bruce Lee is the most overrated martial artist of all time. Of course his ability was incredible. But due to pop culture he's seen as being this mythical fighter that could rival Muhammed Ali. We've got a recording of a single fight he did and neither he nor his opponent look particularly impressive. All we know for certain is that he was extremely fit and conditioned and bought the ideas of cross training into the martial arts mainstream.

[@allwoundup3574]

Bruce Lee loved to cheat on his wife and smoke crack

[@LonelyShadowHunters]

@@finlaymma The big issue is that people often mistake martial artist for fighter, and we don't really know much about how good Bruce Lee really were once he actually started cross training and incorporating his Jeet Kune Do philosophies after he got fed up with Wing Chun being incomplete. All we really have are old people's personal thoughts and his training philosophies kept alive to go off of, so eh. I think people should just stop making up fake stories about him and appreciate him for what he was, otherwise you're just kind of ruining what his legacy is supposed to be, imo

[@anonperson3972]

I think he was less of a pioneer than he is given credit for tbh. What did he ACTUALLY pioneer or invent? People have always cross trained disciplines, I can't think of a skill or technique he invented (it's hard to invent anything new in something people have been doing since prehistory after all). He was obviously good, but there were and are better fighters and better martial artists. He just had the celebrity factor and great marketing

[@darealblackg.o.d2001]

@@finlaymmaHe is the godfather of the MMA…

[@onelooongboi5838]

20:35 what everyone probably clicked for lmao

[@alinvid6098]

If I only say your comment before I skipped like 1 minute continously 😂😂😂 but Thanks bro !

[@Acorn11982]

Thank you

[@Ryusuta]

Definitely the case for me.

[@roflchiefmcjoflchief1791]

Lee did it first, but Chan's dedication, willingness to do his own stunts, and repertoire of learned arts makes him just as, if not more timeless

[@kiillabytez]

Lee's movies always had a group that always attacked him one at a time, and most of the time, the horrible acting really made most of the fights goofy.

[@kiillabytez]

Correction, there were actors who did Kung Fu scenes before Lee was even born.

[@giausjulius4]

To be fair as well Jackie had more time to flesh out his career. Jackie caught on a bit after Lee and his casting in movies was to a different character type. They are both Greats, just cut from a different color of silk.I am not sure you can really say who's better when both of them are suited to different roles.

[@kiillabytez]

@@giausjulius4 You can praise past accomplishments but what it boils down to is, "what have they done lately?"

[@n0xure]

That's how they sold him in Hollywood, but Chan is an Hong Kong actor and that's just how Hong Kong action cinema was back then - they were all tough as nails martial artists who did their own stunts.

[@Fopay12]

Makes sense that Master Yuen Wo Ping was the mastermind behind all of these fight scenes, his style of choreography is so recognizable

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Agreed - recognisable and brilliant!

[@Cheezypoofball]

This guy really knows his stuff. He knows we want to watch the bullet dodge clip anyway so he threw it in then we move on. Top notch

[@SHVRWK]

Haha that's what I thought as well, it's really my favorite scene ever.

[@prroagil1233]

@@SHVRWK dodge this

[@robotjox77]

I was working in the cinema when Blade was released. All the male staff knew which times of day the final fight scene began in each showing. We would all gather together just as Wesley Snipes catches his glasses and the music begins. We literally watched that scene dozens of times and it's still awesome.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

HAHAHAHHA! It's one of the best fights ever....maybe my 3rd/2nd fave!

[@zubayrbhyat8077]

Not sure if you did this one. The Corridor scene in Daredevil. The rawness combined with the awkward camera angles. Charlie Cox just making mince meat out of a bunch of goons to rescue a kidnapped boy. Incredible.

[@damp2269]

Oldboy, the good one...

[@AndroidNoir-L06k]

The nobody fight sequence in bus is legendary, everyone in that scene is just so human at some level.

[@TonyDracon]

it was lame lol

[@DunkMyNuts]

@@TonyDracon dork

[@pankek5431]

​@@TonyDraconyou're lame

[@NeetuSingh-gl1ue]

​@@TonyDracon It was realistic. It wasn't like the usual boring karate/kickboxing shit, but an angry guy just beating up random goons because.....he is angry. He did win, despite his bruises, he liked the release of anger in that fight.

[@DzT910]

wesley snipes just embodied blade so well. and he did so great to bring it into his fighting and can see his martial arts background showing too

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Wesley = Blade

[@OzanBurada]

I think there are two things to note in a fight scene: does our beloved protagonist look like he can lose? For a fight to feel real, we need to feel they can lose as much as the other party. Second thing is that is it part of the story? Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon clip you showed told us how those two women acted in their life for example. Each fight in Everything Everywhere All at Once perfect part of the story we are seeing (It also has probably perfect editing. Kurosawa would be proud.)

[@MarcusFlemmings]

My friend, you always come with incredible comments :) agreed - Crouching Tiger and Everything Everywhere are great examples of wonderful stories that elevate the fight sequences :)

[@jormungandr4690]

For me it is more about to their moves seems like they are real to the brain. I personally think as purely fighting scene the kill bill scene is trash, because she does a tiny movement and the guy get sliced in half. She lightly jumps and it sends her 5 feet in the air. It breaks the immersion heavily. Her movements are all sluggish, even though they have to be fluid. No compare that to Crouching Tiger. The movements are so fluid these women can actually use these weapons and fight and it looks like that on screen.

[@agiksf.8998]

@@jormungandr4690 Trained martial arts actresses :) You can't compare that to someone who spent a few weeks preparing for a role to the Chinese doing this since childhood.

[@seen921]

The Batman doesn’t just beat the guy to the ground. Once the guy is laying there and prone Batman hit him two more times. Just sheer and brutal. Loved it. And my vote: Chan

[@MarcusFlemmings]

HAHAHA! Also stay tuned for Volume 5, out in 4 hours for the results of the winner!

[@maegnificant]

The Batman was a shit movie though.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

@@maegnificant I'm not a huge fan! But I can see why people ike it!

[@maegnificant]

@@MarcusFlemmings I honestly can't, but to each their own

[@swampfire_edits8976]

​@@maegnificantthe movie was great, what do you mean? Lmao

[@itsTapseeTheNative]

My favorite part of the subway fight scene in the Matrix is just after Neo gets a beat down and gets thrown through that kiosk, he gets back up and the dust flies off him as he's getting ready for another round. Just a cool little moment

[@MrXiphix]

man that roddy piper vs keith david fight from they live is still my favorite fight of all time. they really sorted out their issues with that one. just beautiful.

[@augustusaquila5035]

God, that final Blade scene when he catches the glasses and the music starts = *chefs kiss*

[@MarcusFlemmings]

BEAUTIFUL!

[@abigailslade3824]

Probably with some mother F*Cher’s is they always trying ice skate uphill.

[@hankepanky9478]

That Saving Private Ryan scene where the soldier cowards on the stairway and listens to the German kill is supposed to signify America standing by while Germany rose to power. Knowing that made me really think about shit.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

He does kill him in the end :)

[@hankepanky9478]

@@MarcusFlemmings oh trust me I know. I love that scene. I fucking hate that scene lol. I’ve seen that movie at least 50 times start to finish.

[@shannon6365]

hahahaha of course

[@Guhner]

@@hankepanky9478 same. its a perfect movie.

[@briikhaus]

America spent the first few years of the war selling weapons to both sides

[@Christian_H3rnand3z]

I'm so glad you mentioned Scott Adkins. That man is an expert and an absolute beast. I watched a video of him breaking down John Wick fights. I'm also so glad you mentioned the iconic bus fight in "Nobody." It's so grounded, realistic, and gruesome. It so cool to actually see the main character get hurt, so he has to be creative. I love the part when he pounds a guy's face with his watch. The end when he damages a guy's wind pipe always makes my throat hurt. That's how I know it's a good fight. *Just yikes!!!*

[@jacksonconstantine5740]

Thank you for mentioning the coffee scene in Heat. And for giving Bernthal’s Punisher the props it deserves.

[@Version0111]

There's a fight scene in a Jackie Chan movie called Gorgeous that I remember being extremely good. I haven't seen that movie in maybe 20 years so I might be remembering it better than it was, but I remember thinking at the time it was one of the best fight scenes I'd seen up until then.

[@carmillachoate]

As a lifelong fan of action movies I am constantly surprised that Atkinson and White never broke into the mainstream because they are both exquisite As with each of these videos, I can't recommend enough the final fight from Tyler Perry's Alex Cross. It has every single bad fight hallmark

[@alanchoichang8336]

i think that back in the day, bruce was more used to the hongkong style of stunt work, a la jackie chan, where they would legitimately just fuck up the stuntmen in the safest way possible.

[@TheKnight212]

Pretty much this. Lee came from a veryyyyyyy different work environment in regards to stunts. Jackie Chan even talks about how different things are when filming for American stunts than Asian stunts. It wasn’t disrespect to the stunt performers it’s just all he knew and what he was willing to do himself. Unlike Segal who is just a giant asshole. Also calling BS on the Lee vs Chan. Before he was a movie star Lee was a fighter and got into plenty of street fights. He had also been told multiple times during movies he needs to slow his movements down because they were to fast for the camera to properly catch and look good. The guy was a beast.

[@Demonstormlord]

Respectfully, anyone can move too fast for a movie camera shooting at 24 fps to catch properly. That's why movie fighting is a different thing than real fighting. It's also a common talking point to hype up and coming movie stars.

[@excedrintablet]

i love that I'm learning this right now. "You're gonna get fucked up, but safely."

[@Titan14157]

@9:20 When Bruce Lee does the finishing blow and noise, I immediately recognized that one of my favorite movies, Under Cover Brother, actually referenced it. I should've known, smh.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Damn! How could i have missed out on mentioned Undercover Brother! Incredible film :)

[@aaronleverton4221]

What? That was A Fistful of Yen. Available right here on KZbin.

[@seand7042]

When he smashed the bag of chips.... Ironically bringing it full circle MJW is Undercover Brother in the second film.. It's ass juice though so watch at your own peril

[@allwoundup3574]

Yep, he was reportedly a big fan of blow

[@Titan14157]

@@allwoundup3574 funny dust

[@natebowman7593]

10:28 Bruce Lee was brilliant, and had disturbingly fast reflexes, but, he was not invincible. As a matter of fact, he got his butt handed to him by Chuck Norris when they had a sparring match that got out of control. Not even Mike Tyson is immune to defeat, and even Achilles had his weak tendon.

[@haveaday1812]

Yeah, he also only weighed like a buck 25. Tarantino’s whole point (which he went into detail about on JRE) was that if a dude his size and skill got into a hand to hand fight with a literal war hero twice his size like Pitts character, he would indeed get his ass kicked.

[@Davieflame2608]

Lee for martial art, chan for stunts

[@SpectralSound.]

I know its fiction and all,but seeing brad pit's character just shitting on Lee like that just sucks.And when you think that pit and Brandon Lee were friends....it sucks even more.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Love this comment! Didn't know that about him and Brandon!

[@SouL1Jacker]

Eh it's the truth, though. Bruce Lee was not a real fighter. He would have lost badly to any real boxer or wrestler.

[@barrannugrahakodri8695]

​@@SouL1Jackerwhy are you here? If you don't like martial arts movie, no need to comment here.

[@SouL1Jacker]

@@barrannugrahakodri8695 I am sorry the truth about Lee hurts your feelings lol

[@railfandepotproductions]

​@@SouL1Jackeryou act like a UTTP user, if you know anything about the UTTP then you'll know about their actions

[@CRNomad]

Jackie Chang perfected what Bruce Lee started. Also Jet Li and Donnie Yen are in the same conversation as those two.

[@sultanabran1]

i don't think jet li choreographs his scenes. he does the scenes extremely well though. donnie yen is brilliant at both. michelle yeoh should be mentioned too. she's freaking awesome.

[@cornelldgreen]

Who is Jackie *Chang???*

[@Anhpointgaming]

@@cornelldgreenthats what I m saying 😂 must have flew under the radar… cause I know Jackie “Chan” but Chang? Nah…

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@@Anhpointgaming must be Jackie Chan’s stunt double lol

[@lyndonmarquis414]

There’s a sword fight in *Sanjūrō* where Toshiro Mifune’s character just goes absolutely Hell for leather on a courtyard full of guards. It’s really made by the fear on the bandits’ faces as he mows them all down.

[@Lummerbummer115]

The one at the end right? Hell Yeah! The lead up to that scene is my favourite shot in any movie. Period. The wind kicking up all the dust, the slow rhythmic walk, the tension rising, the framing of the whole scene, the camera angles and pans... its perfect.

[@lyndonmarquis414]

@@Lummerbummer115 Ah, no, I got confused - I meant Sanjūrō; it’s the scene where he rescues 4 samurai from a load of guards and then gets them to tie him up.

[@OzanBurada]

Yojimbo had this scene where our nameless hero fights and kills swordsmen inside a building and then lies that he found them like this and looked like it was a big gang work. Kurosawa always made the point that sword fights ends quickly.

[@JoeJJohnsonII85]

The fight scenes in Matrix set the standards for all future movies for me. The biggest factor that made it so good for me is the lack of camera cuts. Even when they do one it still feels seamless, and at no part in the fights do I feel like I've lost track of what's happening. Just perfection.

[@Mattball82]

The ‘They Live’ fight is the most ridiculous, amazing, entertaining, hilarious, and wonderful thing I’ve ever seen it’s always been my favorite fight scene of all time 🙌

[@adityapanwar4145]

Lmao you can see the softbag in the scene 5:26

[@sim1482]

dude, the way you do transitions, how you go from one sequence to another is just fantastic. half an hour just flew by. great job, this is very enjoyable.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

HUGE love for this!

[@Guhner]

MJW, Scott Adkins. True underappreciated legends.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

YES! Both are incredible! So underrated!

[@redkommie80]

White is awesome, I love seeing him in a film. Atkins I like, but I need to watch more of his films

[@gsimon123]

For a long time this was Donnie Yen as well. I feel like Ip Man and Rogue One really helped bring his legend to the wider audience that he always deserved. Hoping the same for those other guys. I know they are both very popular but I just feel like they aren't popular ENOUGH for how great they are. Seeing Yen reach such levels of stardom on huge movies was very rewarding to watch. Loved Yen vs Adkins in Ip Man 4 for that reason. What a legendary fight that was!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

@@gsimon123 Yen is an OG!

[@xarrison8274]

1:43 I am unbelievably happy you chose to include the beginning of Once Upon a Time in the West. Easily one of my favorite films of all time

[@babochee]

Wick with the throwing knives is as visceral as fighting scenes get. You feel the weight of the knives impacting the bodies as it should.

[@James_Bee]

John Wick fell off a freaking CLIFF, but Scott Adkins in a fat suit doing what he does best, is just good stuff. He's been around for SO long and really does deserve more recognition. Same thing with Frank Grillo; been around doing 'b' movies forever, occasionally getting bit parts here and there but FINALLY got some A listing roles and nailed it as Ferrucio Lamborghini.

[@toastmalone1853]

One thing I hate about a lot of action scenes is that they use kung fu as a fighting style. It’s understandable since it’s a flashy style of fighting, but it is a really ineffective (compared to other martial arts) and unrealistic way to fight and often takes me out of a scene because It’s so hard not to think “why wouldn’t you use Kick-boxing or BJJ instead"

[@xavierthomas5835]

I can respect that. I think of a lot of it owes to the fact that people SELL kung fu as really flashy, so it looks ineffective. You gotta remember that these styles have a long history of actual war training, security utility, and fighting. All of that reduced to the flashiest ways to fight in movie scenes. Look at Kyokushin Karate. Very visceral. Muay Thai, it's ancestor, Muay Boran, Judo, certain forms of kung fu that have been kept martial with an equal amount of art, etc. A lot of the flak one might have for kung fu's actual utility in visceral fighting is that they ham it up a little to much, make it just a LITTLR to mystical, and have way too much protagonist power.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Well the thing is, it's all rooted in an circle act of performance - that's how it started. It was performance based - so that's why it works so well on camera :) Kick Boxing hasn't got that pull. But it's certainly brutal, which is also great!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

love this!

[@xavierthomas5835]

@MarcusFlemmings definitely another aspect I forgot about. Within the culture of kung fu, there is a lot of need to put on the best show, to bring the most glory and fame, instead of being the best at what you do. Not to mention that glory and fame for martial arts keeps them relevant and discussed, practiced. It's longevity is its best friend and worst enemy.

[@toastmalone1853]

@@xavierthomas5835 definitely widened my perspective. still I would like to see more representation of other martial arts than kung fu, boxing or judo

[@in4mus85]

I love that fight from "who am I?"8:16 P.S. Chan is the GOAT for his stunts if nothing else.

[@Ryusuta]

Nobody was such a satisfying movie to watch. I especially liked Christopher Lloyd's scenes. So hilarious and brilliant.

[@donaldpriola1807]

There's something to the brutality of the fights in Fight Club--visceral to the core.

[@CoolUsername69]

Even before you mentioned Chan, I was wondering when we were going to discuss him in more depth. He's the all-time greatest and it's not even close imo. Lee deserves enormous credit for being an originator that injected his scenes with...visceral drama, for paving the way for the greats that followed, and for sharing his wisdom with us. But Chan, his stunt team and his choreographers elevated cinematic fights and stuntwork to a level of performance art never seen before or since, and you can see their influence everywhere today. It's fairly common for modern-day fight scenes to incorporate miscellaneous props being cleverly used as makeshift weapons or defenses -- but never with the grace or complexity of Chan's work. I still remember the first time I saw a Jackie Chan movie. It was Rumble in the Bronx, and it changed my life. In just 90 minutes, my understanding of what's humanly possible and impossible was forever changed. Binged everything of his that I could find after that.

[@cavendishbandana8706]

6:14 "...the man can still do things like this." The guy is pretending to throw CG knives.

[@Robert_Paprika]

The best worst actor is Jean-Claude Van Damme, love this guy's energy

[@Discoveryman29]

11:08 may this sound live on for eons

[@siddharthsharma1286]

Everyone loving this series for sure

[@MarcusFlemmings]

YES, and thanks for the comment - it helps the algorithm!

[@SupaaManix]

Agreed with all scenes you picked, except Kill Bill: it can be visually appealing and there's a lot of references to other movies but the fight felt too choreographed/lazy.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Maybe BUT it was also choreographed by the same legend who did Kung Fu Hustle, The Matrix, Drunken Master, etc, etc - I love it!

[@plstmb6000]

Agree, the hit felt less impactful and lacks fluid movements compared to The matrix or Kungfu hustle.

[@mr_0n10n5]

The first Drunken Master and Police Story 1-3 were my intro to Jackie Chan. Absolutely phenomenal movies

[@rolandpalmer7125]

absolutely adore how no words needed to be said about the They Live fight. You just have to look at it still going between clips and think to yourself "yeah... that rocks"

[@SlurpyTheDog]

10:28 Its very rare that I become legitimately impressed by the use of background clips during video essays, but this is one of the most perfect implementations I've ever seen on youtube, such a clever moment. Instantly subbed.

[@Deadshoot-xi4pg]

I think the fighting scenes of Taylor Rake Extraction 1 and 2 are some of the best there are

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Hmmm, it's good for sure! Lots of stitches and CGI though!

[@mrcheese5383]

@@MarcusFlemmingspersonally I don’t care if there are stitches and CGI as long as the end product is good

[@MrKaje72]

Can we get a comparison? Bruce: Jackie: Jet: Donnie These men have defined and redefined martial arts filmmaking. Enter the Dragon: Who Am I: Unleashed: Ip Man

[@nickwatkins7724]

VOL 4 LETS GOOOO

[@MarcusFlemmings]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[@cthroatbill5192]

I think Chan. Although his techniques were not as clean, all the practical stunts that man pulled off were insane. Anyone who can take that much abuse, is one badass mother.

[@SegisSwedubs]

Always loved Chan movies, the humour, the choreographer evolved alot during that time and Jackie had the perfect style to pull it of. He and his team made an amazing job with making me love martial art movies.

[@sinisterdesign]

Chan. I've never seen anything from Bruce Lee as impressive and entertaining as Jackie Chan's best work.

[@Demonstormlord]

Chan certainly innovated a lot more, while also adding humor. That said, Lee did only get to make 4,5 movies as a lead actor before he died.

[@purish215]

​@@Demonstormlordexactly my thoughts lee never really got the chance to truly be a star like Jackie or jet lee or Donnie yen

[@MelchVagquest]

You were pretty manipulative with your thumbnail. It suggests that you consider either the fight from Nobody or Kill Bill Vol. 1 to be bad, because of the "vs"

[@Revalopod]

Clickbait

[@a_stray_dog]

The bus scene in Nobody is one of the greatest fight scenes I've ever seen in film, and it breaks my heart the rest of the movie sort of feels very stock after that. It's a perfectly serviceable action flick, don't get me wrong, but never again do you get that sense of grittiness and guts in that movie, nor do you ever feel like the protagonist is at a serious disadvantage and having to somehow scrap his way out. It's like for six minutes a completely different writer and director took over the movie, and after that we were stuck watching John Wick from Wish.

[@mrcody1924]

I get what you're going at bc the fight choreographer in nobody is the same as the one from the wick series. But there are some moments that do set it aside from the typical action flick, at least in my opinion. There's the home alone-esque booby trap setup, like in the equalizer, and there's also the gutsiness at the end when a claymore gets involved.

[@TheBigR02]

So glad to see Avengement on this, easily one of my favorite films.

[@Stadsjaap]

Saw the thumbnail. Watched Kill Bill again before finishing the video. Excellent call.

[@eneskanat9173]

5:01 Why are the subtitles in Turkish? 😂

[@florida_man0]

Becuase Keanu Revees is Turkish and was born in Sivas and his actual name is "Kenan Reis"

[@eneskanat9173]

@@florida_man0 damn

[@Bonked_YT]

​@@florida_man0 ur wrong, he's actually part turkey, like the animal

[@ProcyonNite]

​@@Bonked_YTCan confirm, had him for dinner yesterday.

[@mystic9434]

8:22 what movie is this?!

[@stanleyondimu3280]

The protector

[@sgtlaughter]

Okay, Vol. 5 will be about the fight scene from "They Live".

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Pahahaa if only! Would make my life alot easier!

[@ryneagheilim9782]

No guns allowed. *Pulls out Saving Private Ryan* 😆 🤣 😂 😹

[@dramirez2351]

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. The scene at the "hotel". Is beautiful yet brutal. Unique. Thanks for the great video man, I enjoyed it so much.

[@cperez1000]

0:34, what is this movie?

[@cesartorres3575]

Upgrade

[@Mr.Salad_]

Upgrade, good cyberpunk movie

[@Mobmezza]

Watch it now!

[@ThisIsntTwitter]

Very underrated movie, worth watching

[@thegodofthegods1084]

What’s the movie before it

[@GlatzeMetzger]

22:29 Is it Darth Vador's theme ?

[@octopusjacket3472]

It feels a lot like the imperial march, yeah

[@GlatzeMetzger]

@@octopusjacket3472 👍

[@rndmdrwrreedr8483]

It’s part of the ost or original sound track. I’m certain it’s just called “the Batman” from the latest Batman movie

[@s.m.9086]

R u restarted?

[@GlatzeMetzger]

@@s.m.9086 you mean rebooted ?

[@DJO86able]

Great video! I feel I have to mention one. The bus depot fight from the first Transporter film. I always remember being blown away by how different it was. Haven't seen it in years, so not sure how its aged, but would love to hear your verdict!

[@WarBovine]

Remember when this was suppose to be a video about bad and good movie scenes that didnt have guns but half the damn video has nothing to do with it?

[@XavIsOnline]

Yeah its insanely meandering. I'm shocked more people aren't talking about it

[@OldManYells]

Chan all the way

[@GlatzeMetzger]

2:23 Kenpo, really, where ???

[@revealtherock]

Lol nerd cares about karate. Where that jiu jitsu at tho?

[@niktniewiem4785]

Jackie Chan is THE goat. While Lee opened the doors, Chan is driving the bus for decades now. He did all his stunts himself, he directed his scenes and movies, he broke every bone in his body, his movies are amazing and there are hundreds of them. He is the best in every aspect of film industry and people should learn from him. Lee is just an icon, I can't say I don't love him, but I can't say much about him too.

[@Xerdar36]

Violent images you say, violent graphic scenes, you say…. Well, sign us up!!!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

pahaahaah!!

[@Scuffed_Gambit]

The rig used for the Matrix "bullet-time" looks really cool

[@lizzfrmhon]

I can’t believe you’re calling Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Kung Fu Hustle movies of yesteryear. God damn I feel old now. Thanks a lot!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Hahaha! I wasn't, per se, I was just showing the evolution from the 70's - present day!

[@diamspy3154]

You missed out on 1 which imo would be predator vs yakuza, I loved it so much with what was going on in the background and it focusing on just a 1v1, seeing that back in the day was the coolest shi ever fr

[@kaerstyx]

i watched Kill Bill with my dad when I was like six for the first time and it permanently changed my brain chemistry in the best way possible lmao

[@matias19891]

The new "agent Smith" is a disaster, not even a good excuse to replace Hugo Weaving. Ian Bliss (Bane) did a magnificent job portraying Smith in Reloaded and Revolutions as a Human being possessed by him

[@Original2c]

for split second i thought there was about to be avengement and scott adkins slander, really relieved to say the least. scotts a class act when it comes to fight choreo. avengement is like the perfect display of what fighting looks like bewtween people who are not traditionally or specifically trained, rather people who have just had to survive. the lack of sceondary installed instincts and hesitation plus object fixation is what sells many of the fights in that movie, plus the creativity. people use anything as a weapon when the time arises. i remember when i was just 3 years old, my dad and i woke up early to go on a fishing trip. (dad is a cold war veteran for reference.) We stopped by the ampm where my uncle worked to get free breakfast and coffee before we headed out on the 3 hour drive to the pier we wanted to fish off of. It was maybe 5 am at the latest, it was still dark outside. I had just finished heating up a honey bun to enjoy with my hot chocolate (i always either had a cinnamon bun, an apple fritter, or a honey bun for breakfast before a fishing trip. it was a special treat and tradition i had growing up). I grabbed my honey bun and happily began munching. I turned around, and before i could even say a word dad put his hand over my mouth, told me to go to the back by the ice cooler, and cover my ears and hide. I had no clue what was going on but he had that dont ask just do look so i listened. Being a child i couldnt help but be curious and turn around and try to peek. dad was slowly creeping up behind the hotdog counter. there were two men standing at checkout. one holding a shotgun. the other a revolver to my uncles face. they were robbing him. I was panicked and wanted to cry but did my best to just be quiet and not get anyone killed. Dad grabbed the whole coffee container of fresh coffee off the counter as he passed it, and snuck up on the guys while opening it. He then proceeded to fling sclading hot coffee over the top of their heads, which spilled all over their unsuspecting faces. The screams were manic. Never heard men scream to high and shrill before. Im sure the steam was just from the coffee itself and not it burning their skin, but the visual was pretty jarring at 3. Dad grabbed the pistol with one hand and punched the guy while ripping it away, then pointed it at the other dude with the shotgun while he was still freaking out from the burns. when he looked up it looked like he just saw a t- rex. dude just dropped the gun and started begging. we waited till the cops came, dad filled out a report and promised to show up in court and for questioning at a later date, then we went fishing, much later than expected, but thats okay. dad caught a shovel nose guitar fish, and i caught my first lingcod (it was still a baby, and had a bright blue color to the inside of its mouth, which i was quite stoked about since blue was and still is my favorite color.) The whole hesitation and sloppiness, the anxiety of that altercation. its one i have found present in any street fight i have ever witnessed or been in. Ive competed in martial arts as well. street fights are just different. either its a drunken brawl, a one shot finish on a untrained vs the trained, or its a sloppy and labor heavy deathmatch with alot of ups and downs. Avengment captures that feeling and emotion better than most movies i have seen. Nobody and john wick are great in this aspect to. as the fights where on you feel the exhaustion. the blows become heavy, and much less precise. Great video, sorry for the long comment. Im kind of a young old man. 24, smoke cigars nightly, like my scotch whiskey with those cigars, i hate my phone and the noises it makes, i like fishing and hike through and up the valley.

[@DaPark3]

When you mentioned revolver i grinned so hard, its imo the best beatles album and a perfect 10/10

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Little secret...I'm not a huge Beetles fan. Prefer the Rolling Stones! But I know the significance of Revolver!

[@kevinknott4404]

Yuen Woo-ping! had to write that down. Learn something new every day. And btw the fight from "they live" is so funny in this context.

[@grimsladeleviathan3958]

BLADE's music just exudes that Flash-era stick fights vibe, and I somehow cannot think of anything else that would fit that film.

[@bamson231]

the production quality from when i first watched this channel just over 6 months ago to now is an impressive jump. Keep up the W vids man.

[@kamikaze4172]

I love that you waited for the big blood splatter to say "violent imagery"

[@blitzzbob5643]

The first time I saw that bus fight on nobody I rewinded and watched it again like 4 times. It just seems so raw and brutal. I never thought I'd se Bob O. In a scene like that Ive been a fan of him scince back when he was on Mr. Show.

[@kkehoe5]

Don’t know if you talked about it in the other videos, but the end fight scene in The Revenant was a brutal fight.

[@3spoons366]

The 8 minute sequence smith vs neo fight in the matrix reloaded utilized the idea of the smith clones so well.

[@garwynrosser8907]

Jackie Chan because it's visceral when he hurts himself. But my absolute favourite was Jet Lee's Legend of the Fist.

[@gtafan110010]

when it comes to filmic presentation of fights, chan absolutely got lee beat. Lee brought martial arts into the mainstream which is great, and he was absolutely a better fighter. but film is about more than 'can you fight'. The parry's, stunts and honestly clean technique of chan elevated the level and made for far, far more diverse movie fights

[@lizzfrmhon]

I’m so glad you meantioned Iko Uwais and the raid movies. Not everyone knows these gems.