BAD NEWS for SELLERS. SXS UTV sales are COLLAPSING.

UTV SXS sales have been declining over the last couple of months and we have not hit bottom yet. Is it time to buy and upgrade or maybe add something to your quiver? I dont think we've hit bottom yet but there are quite a few people who bought high that are now selling low.
Now that inventory and production are catching up, those temporary buyers need to unload the stop gap cars they bought and others who entered the market while they had free time are finding the use not being quite as easy now that theyve returned to work.
One mans loss is another mans gain they say. What do you think is going to happen? Have the economic winds changed?
Hoodie
amzn.to/3UMmVyA
#economy #resale #collapse

[@sxsoffroad]

Are you selling or buying right now? Drop a comment and a 👍

[@uhhuhuhhuuuuuh2027]

I sold my 2020 Kawasaki Teryx T2 this past summer. I had bigger tires, wheels, 6 inch super atv lift, all kinds of accessories. It was a great all around sxs. Hated I had to sell it. I was fortunate enough to sell it for what was owed.

[@sxsoffroad]

@@uhhuhuhhuuuuuh2027 I’m seeing a lot of posts with people saying “I just need to get out of what’s owed”

[@Casperarizona]

I am looking to buy. I keep hearing the interest rates are high on Sidexsides right now! Will see what happens in the next few weeks!

[@someguy5035]

Surprised it hasn't happened sooner. They cost more than actual 4x4s at this point.

[@sxsoffroad]

Yes and no. But maybe it’s time to do a trail comparison at cost like buy a used SXS for 10k and a jeep at the same price and go rally them? 🧐

[@someguy5035]

@@sxsoffroad I would go avg price for a SxS and then a Jeep of the same price. I'd say the avg SxS is much more than $10K.

[@sxsoffroad]

@@someguy5035 well yeah, I was think something in the range would be 10 years old by both counts, maybe a little more. However, if I could go with new… what jeep package is 50k right now?

[@someguy5035]

@@sxsoffroad I would go with $20K SxS vs whatever Wrangler you can get for $20K. There are many used JK/JKU out there at that price. If you were going to make a video on it, I would go with the average sale price of a SxS. That would appeal to the most people.

[@MOAB-UT]

Yes. I like them on some trails but for longer term, regular use, give me a good Land Cruiser any day. Watch your buddies getting cold and wet with your heated seat on- listening to some tunes with no wind blowing in your face! It can double as a car camper at night- win/win!

[@bigbuckinchicken7562]

Considering they've gone up to well above $40,000 for some of these SXS I am not surprised people have stopped buying them.

[@sxsoffroad]

Breaking 50k now

[@lawrencelenerd3988]

Imagine, what you could build with 10-15k, let alone $50,000.

[@redneck4200000]

I’d rather spend extra 20 and get a truck with a heated or air conditioned cab and a windshield and doors lol

[@tysonrojas5477]

Sand rail prices

[@TheAmerican1963]

@@tysonrojas5477 Very true ..... with a crate LS-7 it's just as cheap to get 5-600 hp and more stability ........

[@OCLandspeeder]

What everyone is noticing in the UTV market is a microcosm of what is currently happening in the housing market and automotive & motorcycle markets. It is more than just a market correction. It is this ridiculously high inflation for consumer goods, energy, coupled with the a Recession. It's a perfect storm. It's not going to get better any time soon. Bottom line: people have begun to feel a real squeeze on their budgets and they have to make hard choices among these three things: Food, fuel, rent. These UTV and outdoor luxury toys will be the first to go. If your income is good now, then this is the time to tighten down the hatches and NOT upgrade or buy something else or something new, unless you have the cash laying around. Even then, best to save it, because you will never know what is around the corner, whether it's Christmas or hard times! You will see dealers, etc. going out of business, more people out of work, and more used outdoor luxury toys on sale.

[@sxsoffroad]

well said

[@lawsonharsch3332]

And yet, still vote blue

[@MOAB-UT]

big words. you must be smert.

[@matthewhoopes4440]

A very sensible write up

[@MrJeepguy1974]

Economics 101 has nothing to do with red or blue

[@EmazingGuitar]

The reason prices are so high is because people that can’t afford them keep taking out loans for them. Once the “flex” of having one is gone prices will go down. Everyone and their mom has one now, it’s only a matter of time when everyone gets rid of them and there’s a flood of barely used SxSs on the market

[@EmazingGuitar]

@@machinesnmetal in 2 years time there’s going to be a flood of SxSs in the market if the economy keeps going down the shitter. THATS the time to buy. These guys paying 40k for a toy are going to be desperate for a quick 10k.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@lynneldridge480]

Best thing that could happen is the used market take a dump, quickly followed by the new market falling on its face for a couple of years. I realize EVERYTHING has gone up, but for what we get with any of these SxS machines the prices are just insane. That might force manufacturers to at least produce some better quality, more realistically priced offerings. Until then, they'll keep pumping out the same stuff (looking at you, Polaris) as quick as they can and keep running to the bank with high profit margins.

[@robgau4907]

You are absolutely correct, the industry is doomed, and I own 2 sxs

[@ThinkBeforeYouSheep]

I looked at a Polaris razor, they wanted 40k for a 2 seater 38k by the time taxes are factored 40k, I started to really look this thing over in person and noticed atrocious welds, cheap plastic everywhere, CVT transmission which sucks as far as reliability goes, at 40k I'd rather have a real gearbox, the welds that are visible on the cage were what we call dirtdivered, how did that pass quality control, it was out in the open, needless to say I would never own one with the kind of prices they have it at now, you would be better off building yourself a better one way cheaper.

[@brodienorton7965]

I work for a brp dealership... and 100%. you're paying the price of a car for something that has extremely limited access comparatively, not to mention the longevity for something that expensive. In saying that they are a 'luxury item' and as such have a target audience.

[@sxsoffroad]

@@brodienorton7965 this is a great statement. Luxury item for sure. I’m about to do a demographic survey on SXS owners

[@brodienorton7965]

@@sxsoffroad awesome idea, here in Australia at least, I don't think they've caught on in the same way that the have over in the US, you're core demographics here are really defenders for farmers/hunters or people who live on the road, and mavericks for people who have the money to throw around on something that they might use a handful of times a year or the people that are racing them as an entry way to off road desert racing. There isn't really a massive public market for them like there is in the US with access to modifications, parts, communities and massive events like they have at glamis, the US Utv market s&@ts all over the Australian market

[@russellabernathy3241]

I was the largest Polaris dealer in the nation Abernathy s Union City Tn for 65 years . I’m telling you the bottom is dropping out of all of them especially RZRs . The Utility sxs will hold their value better . All the money people have put into those sport SXS is gonna be bad . All the after market extended warranties customers bought gap and other gimmicks dealers sold at purchase time is gonna be huge losses for banks and financial company’s . Financial company’s are already backing off on money to public . The end is near on all toys as times continue to get worse.

[@sxsoffroad]

I agree. Just saw a sweet used (300 miles) 2022 Pro R 4 ultimate with aftermarket everything for 50k, must’ve had 10k in accessories and had cut the price twice already. I’m sure that’s a “get me out of this rig for what I owe” cry for help.

[@melissaakanubby8774]

My ex hubby & I bought our 07 Yamaha Rhino 450 from Abernathy’s cause the Prices in Paducah was so much higher.

[@finerbiner]

I hope everyone remembers which dealers took care of customers and which ones took advantage.

[@thewhiteknight02]

Yea. Like Action Powersports in Wisconsin adding $2-5000 over sticker.

[@Barraquda27]

I want you two to also remember the 40 years of dealers selling below MSRP, but you won’t hear anyone griping about that

[@codyatlee7147]

@@thewhiteknight02 waukesha location? That place has been awful to deal with for a long time.

[@williamchop]

United Motorsports They are still tryin to ask 3k over sticker on 40k machines🤣

[@John-th8td]

@@Barraquda27 Shut up. They can sell below MSRP because of the EXTREME markup.,

[@BobSmith-cb5xr]

Everything is crashing. Nice job Democrats 👏👏👏

[@georgepippin4554]

Hey Bob..... news flash...its corporate greed.Put a stop to it...dont buy until they stop being greedy pigs

[@cspl6134]

Don't forget the nuclear war!

[@matthewhoopes4440]

My avocado's went bad because I didn't eat them. F--king democrats. If weren't for them I'd have a good life...and ripe avocado's!

[@ss0073]

👏👏

[@sgdummy]

I hope Trump & Hilary hook up. Mainly just because I'd like to watch your head explode 🤯🤣😂

[@OldDirtGuy]

It has been strange to be a motorcyclist and watching this whole thing from the outside. I was riding dirt bikes when the first three wheelers came around. Then the ATVs, then the UTVs, then the UTVs got bigger and bigger. Some of them are massive now. I have also been a water skier that has watched the PWC market evolve. Same deal there. The humble Jet Ski has turned into things the are starting to rival the size of my ski boat. I recently bought a 54" slalom trick ski on a lark. That thing is kind of fun. But I think I will always do my off road on a dedicated dirt bike and my watersports will just be me and a ski, or just my feet.

[@johnharrison1429]

Yeah I never really understood the whole UTV thing. I think riding dirt bikes is a heck of a lot more fun, not to mention an actual workout. Hard to ride and drink beer at the same time like a UTV tho.

[@nightbasser73]

I agree and they have caused the closure of several riding areas in my area!!!

[@bpwinter250R]

I like your style. Traditions never trend.

[@theericbenson1692]

I think alot of people with broken utvs saw me in my free 4runner drive by them in moab. I don't believe that's the sole reason sales have dropped, but definitely contributed. Oh and I drove the freerunner home on the interstate after bashing it for 4 days.

[@sxsoffroad]

4Runner’s that are 2runners have an extreme value still!

[@MOAB-UT]

That might be the sole reason. I was following behind my buddies on their enduros in Moab, headed out towards Mill Canyon. It was early AM and only about 35F (March.) I had the heat on and a big smile on my face...as I adjusted my heated seats. Later that day, we end up on Shafer Trail- all good fun. Head over to Chicken Corners if you have never been and also H*lls Revenge- epic. trip #7 coming up this spring!

[@theericbenson1692]

@@MOAB-UT we ran into bad weather as well. When the hail started everyone with utvs piled their kids into me and my girls toyotas. Heaters and windows make a huge difference!

[@danlux4954]

What’s a four runner cost brand new fully modded?

[@jimmymartin1902]

@@danlux4954 Too much!

[@TheCureThatKillz]

Nobody wants to spend the ABSURD amount of money Polaris & Can-Am are asking for these UTV’s. It’s seriously insane

[@sxsoffroad]

Hit the sub button. I’m going to be showing who the demographic actually is.

[@h2beezy2]

@@sxsoffroad retirees

[@russmode]

When they were getting close to $20k many years ago, I stopped looking at them.

[@TheCureThatKillz]

@@russmode right! I feel the same way.

[@TheAmerican1963]

@@russmode Agree ...... I paid $18k for my 2018 Rzr turbo XP and that was the end of my interest in anything "newer" ........

[@zread240]

I’m in a parts department and we went from multiple doing giant accessory builds on new machines to people just trying to fix up what they have. It’s definitely going to change. Where it lands, I’m not sure, but it’s starting to sway

[@sxsoffroad]

That’s what’s up

[@tedecker3792]

They are expensive to fix, there will be lots of non-runners sitting behind barns in a few years.

[@lawrencelenerd3988]

They are expensive for someone else to fix. Lots of good deals heading for those who can wrench.

[@tedecker3792]

@@lawrencelenerd3988 exactly!

[@too-stoked-about-2-strokes]

Oh no! So there will be less billy bobs turning all the single track Into 4 lane highways? I'm all torn up.

[@je7788]

100% agree

[@peaceprayer595]

It's hard for me to read these comments after being in the powersports business for years. Guys...girls...the entire ATV SXS bubble was driven by low interest rates and covid death anticipation. So many people are in debt up to their noses now. Couple that with housing, groceries and inflation in general and you have a recipe for disaster. And that is what you will soon see. Disaster. I personally could not believe 2 things in the last 2 years. The price people were paying and the price the bank was financing. CRAZY upon CRAZY = CRASH

[@mxbadboy263]

I agree. Expensive campers in every other driveway and storage lots full of them. Can't imagine having a large payment for a toy.

[@lyleswan6671]

End of the world party. Same thing happened after 9/11(not quite as bad tho). People went crazy buying their dream future toys, no mater the cost.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@peaceprayer595]

@@sxsoffroad Great video brother!

[@sxsoffroad]

@@peaceprayer595 thank you! Post it up and share it with your buddies! 🇺🇸

[@FordManiac76]

I’ve been into dirt bikes and atv all my life. Been dreaming of getting into Utv but just can’t afford it now that the prices are so crazy high and the economy is going to shit!!

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@lesleyboeder1798]

I love the last three years. We have been able to buy machines that are 4 or 5 years old with less them 300 miles on them for one third the cost of new.people buy these new and think they are going to use them lot but after two or three trips up north and they end up sitting in the garage taking up the wife's parking spot.its going to get batter on the used market for people that can pay cash

[@sxsoffroad]

That’s right

[@painterboy454]

Just for fun I went on Can-Am's website and customised the most expensive Maverick Turbo X3 starting at $43,000 here in Canada. I picked ALL of the fanciest, most expensive accessories I could find and bumped the price to over $106,000 before freight, surcharges, PDI and taxes. Came to $120,000, lol!

[@sxsoffroad]

What a deal! That’s like 15,000 usd right!? 😜

[@painterboy454]

@@sxsoffroad, LOL!!

[@philmonachan8007]

im in canada and bought my 21 xds rr for 30k plus tax. put an easy 10-12k in extras into it. roof,windshield, rear window, side windows, lower doors, door bags, 32" tires, plow, winch, bumper, custom stereo, heater, baja designs 10" and squadron pros. shit adds up fast.

[@honusbigtime591]

@@philmonachan8007 That’s why I drive dirt bikes. Wayyy more smiles per mile at a fraction of the cost

[@axe2grind244]

What?????? You can buy a Raptor R for that lol. I just started looking for my first one and I thought $20k for a Can Am was insane. Wow I guess I did not realize how expensive these things are.

[@Sparktrician]

I’m glad some of the UTV boom is ending. Honestly at a certain point they just aren’t worth the price for the amount of use you get out of them and how poorly some models are built. Personally we went away from UTV’s and went back to ATV’s. We got a family of 4 each new atv’s for less than our previous turbo 4 seat machine. The kids are happier because they get to drive and I’m happier because I’m not constantly fixing a poorly build machine that was over priced. To each their own but this needs to correct itself.

[@sxsoffroad]

It’ll be fine, people will keep Buying

[@Sparktrician]

@@sxsoffroad I’m sure they will. Heck I’ll buy another SXS at some point. Maybe sooner than later. Cash is king and a lot of people asshole deep in debt will be unloading their sxs’s. However for now ATV’s are where it’s at for our family.

[@nickgibb4687]

its all going down. The ford dealer offered me 17k for my 13 EcoBoost with $7500 worth of tree branch scratches down the passenger side 160k miles. that was in January. asked again last week yea $13.5k (52,995 new in 13). and as a ford and gm part dealer good luck on big and expensive parts. fuel tank 55 gallon back ordered, no one in Wisco has one (per dealer network), and the list price is $2800 for a tin box. worst part is campers were built like crap because of the so called covid because of unskilled labor (got a heart beat your hired). and people that got money thought camping and atving, boating, etc. thought it was cheap. well its not. $300 in fuel $150 for the site for 2 nights plus $250 for food. beer games sh** you always buy....opps forgot the extra shitter pipe. gotta hit the walmart bam $100 for that and ammo. yea its a $800 weekend. go to door county and spend $50 on 25 lbs of apples. not to mention loan on the rec vehicle insurance, opps I swamped my atv or I blew a turbo towing 12k when my truck is rated for 10k. just saying I've seen a lot of idiots since the (SARS) china bat in the dirty market happened. but we all know why it happened.

[@outdooradam]

This is literally the best accurate description of current happenings I've read yet.

[@christopheravery5808]

Man, I have never been able to see the big deal with the whole SXS thing. ATV’s are much more fun and way way cheaper, kids definitely like them more and it’s cheaper to get quads for the whole family to go out and ride. Bring the sport quad market back!!

[@bwyyy7306]

I had an Yamaha Atv for years, bought a Yamaha Wolverine a few years ago, losing interest and the one thing I really hate about it is how loud it is, you have to scream at the person next to you. My ears ring for hours after driving it, it’s all stock and I added lists of soundproofing. Prefer the Atv now

[@sxsoffroad]

I added a full flow exhaust to my XRS but ordered specifically a “quiet.” My old SXS was way too loud.

[@gabrielalvarez9570]

Been in the powersports industry for 20 yrs, People have got to realize that these machines are just toys, Really expensive hobby, Some people just can't afford it.. When families are struggling to make ends meet guess what's going to have to go first?! Yes, Atv's and UTv's, I saw this from 5 miles away 😢

[@sxsoffroad]

Yup

[@bradlindeman7417]

RV market is crashing also.

[@dannyo957416]

Utv prices have definitely gotten out of control lately you can buy a really nice used Jeep for what they are charging for a new utv

[@sxsoffroad]

While you’re not wrong, the experience is totally different. SXS’s are land boats

[@ffarmchicken]

100%! Saw a USED 2018 Ranger 1000 for $25,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking insane!

[@james4wd236]

Idk about anyone else but I was in the dealership about to trade up to a Turbo S and then at the last min. said no..... just be happy with what you have (18 XP1K). 6 months later I was laid off after 7 years with the company. Spent 10 months trying to change careers. Luckily I land a bad ass job, and recovered. But after all that uncertainty I felt like I have a new outlook on toys and extracurricular activities. This fallout and then price gouge put alot of people who normally would have upgraded, out of the market. Everyone is keeping in place what they have cause we need stability.

[@sxsoffroad]

I’m glad you landed in a good place man

[@nathanl5010]

All I have to say is these people buying $25k - $35k toys are crazy. You can have a custom built buggy or Jeep based crawler for what they are paying for these things. The slow down is probably from gas prices hikes, interest rates doubling, and also people waiting on the midterms to see if it is going to continue to rise.

[@sxsoffroad]

I used to have Landcruisers, one FJ 60 that I built up to handle most anything. These days it would be a 100k car. SXS is a strange market but so are boats. One thing I love is that when it does break, the repairs are easy and pretty damn cheap

[@RDA8191]

Yeah, with all the parts on my Turbo S I'm probably into this thing 40k. Kinda kicking myself because last year I sold my 2007 FJ Cruiser with super low miles. Im starting to think about how insane i could have made that FJ with 40k cash (because i paid cash for the machine and parts). Could have super charged the FJ, long travel, cage, etc

[@sxsoffroad]

@@RDA8191 i’ve got a worse story for you than that. Are used to have a 1983FJ 60. I sprung it over, snorkel kit, lockers, gears, full custom hoops, full adjustable shocks, safari did out, two bumpers everywhere, full waterproofing, you name it. I couldn’t even guess how much money I had into that thing. I sold it at a time when nobody wanted those cars. $3800. How’s that?

[@1978JWJ]

Try at least twice that for a full roller tube chassis. Just the motor, axles and wheels and tires are close to 25k by themselves. I use to be in the Jeep game. My next trail rig will be a SXS- looking at the Kawasaki KRX. The power to weight ratio, ground clearance and suspension. No Jeep is going to touch that for the price.

[@sxsoffroad]

@@1978JWJ This. ⬆️

[@salvadorejr1647]

That’s good for consumers!👍🏽 Now they won’t be asking above msrp

[@sxsoffroad]

Yes

[@xAlSharptonx]

Seriously, every dealer by me has pre-sold orders and used machines for new prices.

[@LordLoMR2]

I was going to buy one until I realized I could just buy an old small Toyota 4x4/modify it/street legal. 😂

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@user-bd5md5cm2j]

Bought 2 humvees ,17,000.00 A jeep with axels and suspension for 8,000.00 a used 4 wheeler for 6,000. Still have them all and enjoy running them all year round. The jeep and humvees sure are fun in the snow. Warm too. Side xsides just priced me out of the market years ago. There great, but I have a lot of verity and can take friends that I just can't do with one side side.

[@sxsoffroad]

Two humvees that run!?!

[@user-bd5md5cm2j]

@@sxsoffroad the actually both run really well. There more fun than anything else I've ever driven. I live in the desert and the cook across the desert. There not as fast as a side side but they are fast. I have a roof top tent and you can pack em to the gills with stuff.

[@user-bd5md5cm2j]

@@sxsoffroad great channel by the way. I've had 6 sidex sides . Love em.

[@mr.frisbysministry9268]

My GEO tracker 4x4 is much better through the woods and mud than those other things. 😁

[@sxsoffroad]

Lol. We used to wheel a tracker. You could pick them up if they tipped over

[@gladegoodrich2297]

They should start making the tracker again. Great little machine and would probably sell for less than a Polaris 4 seater.

[@pjplumber2146]

That’s what you get for wanting 25k for a used toy. I’ve seen more kids hurt from these things than 3 wheelers. Simply because they look safe and easy like a car. I understand they are fun. But a crashing market is not gonna hurt anyone but the seller.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@melissaakanubby8774]

Yes way to many people have gone from 4-Wheelers & along with “Newbies” that have never ridden before but SXS’s because they get a false sense of security from the Roll Cage. I was guilty of failing for the false security when ex & I went from 4-wheelers to a SXS Rhino in 07 because in 08 I ripped my Arm off cause I flipped it

[@ridingdeep8530]

Bummer...fewer people in UTV's flying around blind corners and nearly killing my family riding our quads and motorcycles.

[@sxsoffroad]

You’ve just nailed one of my biggest concerns and fears. As a utv driver I am so cautious on blind corners and roads. I never want to be involved in that nightmare:

[@melissaakanubby8774]

There has/had been way to many Newbies that have never driven anything but a car on pavement running out buying the biggest fastest SXS there is then Modding it out to the extreme then getting on the trails rutting everything out with the ruttes being wider then a dang 4-wheeler while going as fast as they can

[@melissaakanubby8774]

SXS nightmares are not any fun trust me lol I ripped my Arm off in 08 from flipping my Rhino on it’s side. OPPS so I’m strictly Honda 4-wheeler now ​@@sxsoffroad Yeah

[@GulfSoftwash]

My specific needs are going to get deer out of the woods, working on my property, hauling firewood that I’ve processed with my tractor and light trail riding. I had a 2018 Yamaha Viking. I have since sold it and just took delivery of my new Kubota 1120 diesel. The Kubota is def geared towards more work but its bulletproof. Plus a standard 2 year warranty no questions asked. Cargo capacity is unreal, hydraulic dump bed, Kubota diesel reliability, same fuel and oil as my Cummins 6.7 and tractor. I paid OTD 23k for it with a few options. Still pretty high, but man that things going to last YEARS.

[@sxsoffroad]

I love those kubotas and was on the hunt for one with the snowblower/auger front attachment this year

[@nseric1233]

You can build a crazy capable Jeep for about half of what a sxs cost and drive anywhere I never bought one and never will

[@sxsoffroad]

Coming from a 4x4 building background (3 land cruisers, 1 Land Rover) the experience is totally different. Neither one would be a daily driver if built correctly so you’re still doing a tow rig and trailer and the expense of a break on a jeep vs a SXS is exponentially higher. All that being said, I like both 😂

[@rogerw3818]

I've loved watching the market evolve from the early three wheeler day through now. When the product is "HOT!", it's a happy, happy time. Watching people fall all over themselves to get that new toy, especially when it's a "limited" production, is an entertainment all its own. Of course, the inevitable "market correction" happens and it's back to scratching out a living until that next new "trend" reveals itself.

[@sxsoffroad]

Real hoverboards maybe!?

[@panicrev555]

As a dirtbiker I’m glad to see them crash. I’ll feel less likely to be wiped out by you all cutting blind turns in the future should they continue to thrive.

[@je7788]

100% agree.

[@RobNaughton54]

I love how so many want to blame it on politicians. If you over paid for something in the last three years because you just had to have it whether it be homes, automobiles, motorcycle, RV’s, side-by-side‘s bicycles you name it. That’s on you. But nobody ever wants to take responsibility for their own reckless spending. My favorite Warren Buffett quote is… be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful. The last three years, people were beating each other off with a stick to overpay for everything. So I took advantage of the market to sell most of the big ticket items I had while people were overpaying. Now I anticipate or hope to find some great deals in the near future and I will. I never overpay for anything… but I’m always right there to help people out of the stuff they can’t afford or shouldn’t have bought when they’re giving it away. 😂😂

[@mblogan]

I was at Antlers Motorsports Saturday and must have seen 30 rides roll out of there while I was there 3 hours. That seems like a lot.

[@sxsoffroad]

People finally getting their orders

[@jamestrombley386]

New machines are pricing themselves out of business. Unless you have money boiling out of your pockets $30,000 Plus for a toy is ridiculous.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@jakedavid8187]

Almost every thing is crashing... its some awesome policy moves we have had lately

[@sxsoffroad]

It’s rough out there

[@cptbuiltk7944]

Biden Policies have been Fantastic for my family. Sorry you think they haven't helped yours. Maybe try tuning into factual news?

[@sxsoffroad]

@@cptbuiltk7944 I’ve been waiting for someone to post like this. As with all things, some do well and some don’t. My business has done nothing but grow the last two years, the four before that, the 8 before that…. The only issues we ran into were not being able to hold stable pricing due to constant issues with freight and production

[@jakedavid8187]

@@cptbuiltk7944 haha... ok so your dollars are going further now? Or is that not indicative to a good economy? I make my margins still but pass it to my customers who are forced to use my service because of legality and danger. Factual news? Like what? The providers that have been sued for lying recently? Or which

[@Snarge22]

I've picked my poison, a Can-Am Outlander Max due to be delivered near the end of this month. So not a SxS. One thing I notice is that a trailer is necessary to tow a SxS of extra width & length. Add in the cost of the SxS, plus the trailer and we're talking notable expense here. The tow vehicle is usually a nice modern, read expensive, pickup and now I'm thinking there's $60,000 plus here in money spent, or likely on payments. Increase interest rates and I can see how it would be quite easy to put a damper on SxS (and other) sales.

[@Blueknight1960]

The SxS's, atv's and utv's aren't that heavy, you don't need a pick-up to pull a trailer. Don't get me wrong, you're not going to pull a trailer with a prius.

[@sxsoffroad]

I have been having conversations about this topic. There is some fat out there to be trimmed with setups. I’ll run through my setup in a future video and how I am trying to lower impact.

[@aaronspratt267]

I have a 2020 Outlander 1000 max. Seats two comfortably, and I can go places in the woods that the SXS guys can’t go. You’ll enjoy it.

[@jonasstahl9826]

@@Blueknight1960 Depends where you life in Europe cars can legaly to there own GVW you can tow a UTV with a prius no problem.

[@user-qb3ju7xm5m]

My local Honda dealer tried pushing a new 1000-5 on us during "Black Friday" sales and said "they won't last". We watched literally no side by sides sell during that weekend...nor have they since then. Lots are full and getting fuller. Dealers can't sell right now as the utv market is following the crashing truck market. Just sit and wait for the used sxs market to pile up and you'll get a sweet deal. It's about time for the pandflation to finally deflate.

[@patbateman6729]

Excellent, it's smarter just to buy an old TJ jeep, cheaper, and tougher and more capable.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@winnersk8]

Doesn’t take a genius to figure this out…. They are making rigs at 45k!! Who are they marketing to?!? Not the working class anymore!

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@joshford7828]

Not surprising when they cost as much as most people daily drivers. Sales are unsustainable at that cost.

[@sxsoffroad]

They are definitely luxury items. The upfront cost is one thing, the aftermath is ridiculous

[@mxbadboy263]

What do you mean by "aftermath"?

[@tyb3938]

Bought a loaded JL 4 door rubicon with sky top for 53k out the door. Heated seats, heat, ac, power convertible top, sway bar disconnect and lockers. Sold the sxs and trailer when stuff was expensive. Jeep takes us comfortably to more places than our sxs did

[@david3077]

I bought two sxs this year.. one used one new. They are priced to high for sure but just like everything… prices might correct a little but if you think you’re going to pick up a sxs for chump change.. good luck.

[@sxsoffroad]

Not chump change, that doesnt happen. but better than 6-12 months ago, for sure.

[@anthonyhovatter2295]

Was on line looking at local shops inventory and prices and decided to go check a couple out , I get there and the “ internet price “ was $3000 less than what they had marked on the machine and sales man basically said oh those must’ve sold …. My ass , price gouging at its finest. Didn’t buy anything. These things are not worth 25-35000 sorry.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@drec7366]

I got quoted Tuesday Nov 15 CanAm Defender HD700 base $12,500+tax and fees CanAm 850xmr $13,800+tax+assembly $1299+..... This ATV and buggy cost more than a motorcycle that can be ridden anywhere!

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@rogerharris3917]

I am no expert but I would think It is a basic supply-demand issue. Generally speaking, as price increases demand decreases until they reach an equilibrium point. Inflation has increased more than earnings, debt has increased and savings have decreased. Credit comes due and inflation takes a toll and savings are low. This is impacting sales of high ticket items, vehicles, RV’s, appliances as manufacturers price themselves out of more customers that are using earnings to pay for higher prices for necessities. I looked at buying a new truck. Prices are high, you could literally pay for a house for the cost of a new truck. I walked away and I can actually afford one if I wanted. But price still means something. As inventories rise, prices will come down and production will decrease. High prices means lower demand.

[@sxsoffroad]

Well said. Check out the follow up video I did that talks about that The Reason THESE TOYS are so EXPENSIVE & utv sales are declining kzbin.info/www/bejne/eICpnIljoph7fbM

[@brycecampbell4845]

The funnest machines with 4 tires are ATV's 4 wheelers...they're a lot faster more maneuverable, stop faster, weigh less for the hp, the fun factor isn't even comparable, they have 2 to 3 seater models (CanAm), better gas mileage, way easier to trailer, and a lot more benefits. And a fraction of the price to buy and maintain than a POS UTV. The only 2 ITV's worth having is the top of the line 2 seater highest hp and all the options and that will run around $40,000... and remember these things aren't mean to drive 100,000 miles. Not even close. They wear out fast! The only other utv worth having is CanAm Fully Enclosed one wit heat air heated steering wheel and seats etc now that is worth it, but the motor in that one is'nt fast at all. The spring set up is for slow utility type riding low speed, so fun factor is much lower than high HP... I see them and people aren't having the fun they have on ATV's and especially motorcycles. Motorcycles blow them both out of the water when it comes to fun. Anyway that's my rant but what do I know.

[@davidgarris2513]

Funny you mentioned the old school ATV being better. I'm looking at them as a price point bargain compared to a SxS , UTV etc...

[@melissaakanubby8774]

@@davidgarris2513 i haven’t look in awhile but just last year in my area prices on “used” 4-wheelers was outrageous! A 02 Honda Foreman 450 S was going for close to $6,000 & the rough looking 1’s was & 5,000. I contemplated. For a minute about selling my 02 for that but I couldn’t replace it for 1 with Power Steering for that price

[@davidgarris2513]

@@melissaakanubby8774 I'll let you know what one of the John Deere dealership gives me a price tomorrow for a completely base Gator TS is. But yeah. It's crazy what used is the asking price

[@davidgarris2513]

@@melissaakanubby8774 only one year ago, these were priced at about $7600. Today? $10,300

[@davidgarris2513]

@@melissaakanubby8774 exactly the same machine, nothing new, but they blame it on COVID one way or another

[@motodude1002]

From someone working at a dealership, it's not just UTV's

[@sxsoffroad]

Oh I know

[@DaveEPie]

Bikes too?

[@leavethelandalone835]

Not surprised, was wanting to buy a second machine and started shopping for one. What I noticed was the same machine, with the same accessories was $7000 cheaper the year before. Think I’ll wait for the economy to get reasonable again.

[@sxsoffroad]

I'm waiting as well. Still trying to decide on a 2 seater... I kind of want to build up a 72" xrc or just a 2 seat XRS. Oddly enough though, a wildcat xx with the turbo kit and 77" long travel on 35's would probably dominate for less money...

[@ruyguy8888]

Those who purchased during the COVIDIOCY unfortuneately will be hit the hardest. Houses, Cars, Trucks, Powersports, ATV, UTV's... Used will lose thier inflated value and no one will want to pay the asking price, dealers wont be able to pay out what's owed on your used gear beause of inflated price if you are looking to trade, and those making extended term payments on silly 7% or 8% interest rates over 84 plus months will be stuck with de-valued and aging equipment. It's going to be a rough ride, people. And shock therapy can't build anything to help.

[@sxsoffroad]

Yup. You see it about home owners remorse daily

[@bigdad24]

That's great news! Maybe they will finally stop destroying the trails those of us that have been riding our entire life have enjoyed so much...overpriced turds! #sportquadsforlife!

[@sxsoffroad]

I’d wager that trail devastation is due to more people rather than type of equipment. I use descriptive words like yours to describe my local ski area, more people have ruined it, not their ability or equipment

[@je7788]

@@sxsoffroad It's equipment that turns single track into a road.

[@trevorwarner6406]

Not sure if you have seen Deranged Off Road but they covered this topic already. They hit on a lot of good talking points and I feel the market has come to an end as well.

[@sxsoffroad]

I haven’t watched it, I saw that thumbnail come up on my feed. I need to check it out

[@sconner]

As a motorcycle rider, good. Nothing more irritating than one of these cars taking up the whole trail. They are stupid expensive as well.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@Maoshung]

I for one love them but don’t love the ~$25,000 price tag. I had an XP1000 and it was broken down all the time!!! I bought an 03 Wranger TJ for $6500 and could have bought 3 of them for the price or 1 SxS. I wish the price would come down significantly. Don’t get me wrong I can’t afford one….I just don’t wanna spend that kind of money on one!!

[@TT-ch2pz]

Hell yes prices are crashing. These prices are ridiculous, plus you get to pay a surcharge on top of MSRP.

[@mrready2race]

Not at Interstate 69 Motorsports!

[@thedealerofdeath100]

Kirby power sports in Chanute ks only charges what's advertised + sales tax. Last I checked they was below MSRP.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@KnDArsenal]

So coming from a power sports dealership you are spot on. I don’t think 0% financing is coming anytime soon, but big rebates are. Believe it or not most of my customers were cash buyers. 80% of my customers who did a credit app, did not get approved.

[@sxsoffroad]

Oh I for sure believe that.

[@primitiveoffroad480]

Sea-Doo has 0 % for 60 months

[@BryceLovesTech]

So I have not owned a all-terrain vehicle since the Honda big red three wheeler. I went into a shop the other day and ask how much that off-road side-by-side was and he told me $30,000. No wonder.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@MadaraUchiha55910]

My dad own a 2006 Arctic Cat 500 ATV and thst thing is beat to hell but like a Honda it just doesn’t die

[@fishwhisperer03]

Prices have been nuts on em for awhile

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@thomas8673]

I think it’s not tanking but we we are seeing a market correction on the used which got out of hand anyway . I don’t think we will see pre pandemic numbers for good 2/3 years going forward . As dealers start restocking the used market will drop . Plus it’s about that time since a lot of these new models finally seeing good turnover

[@sxsoffroad]

Agreed. More and more dealers advertising in-stock units.

[@randyw6650]

One day there will be a documentary about how and when these off road machines turned into a grocery getter.

[@profit-engine8001]

Most SxS cost more than my Jeep Wrangler, way too expensive for a freakin toy!

[@sxsoffroad]

They are just that, big toys

[@bigmurph1447]

I just sold my 2015 polaris ranger 900xp for $10000 i couldn't beleave it

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@levistrunk1253]

I bought a brand new 15 rzr xp1k an it was the biggest an worst purchase I ever made an wish day after day I wished I never would have bought one an never will again... anything you spend 30k for should go more then 5k miles period.

[@sxsoffroad]

Did you blow yours? Those 2cyl engines with the HP and high revs are built light and weak. I have run across quite a few canams with well over 10k miles, kawasakis the same. I blew an arctic cat engine in 1300 miles. That sucked.

[@levistrunk1253]

@@sxsoffroad no the engine isn't blown yet its just nitmare after another electrical gremlins on top of goes through wheel bearing an axles with every oil change an fuel pump every other oil change.. currently it's stuck in limp mode for some God forsaken reason an has been in that state for 2+years now... I refuse to give my dealer another 2k just to have them attempt to fix it just to have them condiment the unit cause it has 5k miles... an you so 10k miles is normal I'm sorry but if you spent 40k for a ford ranger an it only went 10k you'd be furious! As should everyone. Cause it really is b.s.

[@sxsoffroad]

@@levistrunk1253 mother f***in ford ranger!

[@p_hat]

i purchased a RZR turbo S in 2019 for 26k and sold it in 2021 for 27k. didn't recoup losses on aftermarket parts but the fact i was able to sell it for more than MSRP with 2500 miles was too good of a deal for me to pass on

[@richardstrohl]

They have priced themselves out of the market.

[@sxsoffroad]

Some for sure. Maybe they found who their consumer is?

[@somedude0505]

Im waiting for the camper trailer crash. Even before covid I was already looking at them, just didnt want to pay the excessive price and wait 3 or 4 months for it.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@chrisreibold1634]

I was on the fence about purchasing a Yamaha RMAX 1000 Sport last year. Now, this year the same machine is $2,800 more with no changes. Needless to say, I'm not on the fence anymore.

[@l.p.sglitter9300]

Yep, here they are 5k over msrp at least

[@kidamere2408]

yep everyone thinks its all going down, its not, manufactures like to make money they wil keep inventory where they want it, and give some rebates but will still be well above where it all started.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@OrigionalGiant75]

Lol the prices have almost doubled since 2019 idk what the manufacturers expected to happen. Especially when their product is a luxury item and not a necessity.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@duneme]

Interesting! I’m out of the SXS world right now but, hope to get into it in the next year! Needless to say, I’m excited for this!

[@sxsoffroad]

right on

[@Mrtechsupport07]

Yep, just bought a new Rzr a couple weeks ago. They had knocked $2000 off the price on one I had my eye on for a while.

[@sxsoffroad]

Finally someone who purchased recently jumping in here! I’ve started to see some deals recently at the local big dealers

[@LuckyNikitaBoba]

I couldn’t be happier. Too many people don’t know how to operate these dangerous machines. I hope this industry dies. UTVs are for people who can’t ride a dirt bike.

[@johnjaco5544]

Those things are actually just a big toy they break really easy and the parts are really expensive I'm not buying.

[@sxsoffroad]

Big toys yes

[@rugby3874]

I have to disagree with you on the Wildcat 1000 I had a 2018 and it was a very very reliable machine and now I have a wildcat double x and it is a hell of a machine very reliable

[@sxsoffroad]

I’ll take that and say that I love the double X. My wildcat broke ball joints, tie rod ends, I rebuilt the motor, and all before 1000 miles. It was great for the first few hundred.

[@Blueknight1960]

@@sxsoffroad It broke all that? Was the quality that bad or was it the way you were abusing the machine?

[@sxsoffroad]

@@Blueknight1960 not abuse. Here’s the saga: The first major problem happened when I took it to Moab the first time. I went over and did a small ledge on cliffhanger and folded the steering rod down and snapped the lower ball joint. That was within about 45 minutes of me driving it off the trailer. After that was repaired, I began snapping ball joints and tie rod ends pretty regularly. I swapped out the a arms and that helped. The stock ones had bowed out by almost 2 inches. The snapping of ball joints happened one or two times every time I took it out on the trail. It became the bad luck machine. I would be going down the road and not even a rough one and it would just suddenly snap and drive me down to the ground. I nearly rolled it five or six times because of this. I got to the point where I was just too scared to drive it. It was involved in an accident at one point, everything was gone through, frame checked, and beefed up with every aftermarket part you can imagine to strengthen it up. No luck, it just kept having problems and at one point the engine seized. It turned out that the oil pump wasn’t moving things like it should have, and it burned out. 4500 bucks for a rebuild on that motor. Needless to say, I was done with it.

[@sxsoffroad]

@@Blueknight1960 shoot me an email [e-mail] and I’ll shout you some pics

[@Blueknight1960]

@@sxsoffroad I'll trust ya, no need for pics lol.

[@waferzworld]

Quads are making a come back 🤘🏻

[@sxsoffroad]

I can believe how high they gotten as well. I really wanted to pick up a couple for my kids and couldn’t believe it

[@waferzworld]

@@sxsoffroad I agree. Currently hunting a stock banshee and it’s like digging for gold that you have to pay for after finding lol

[@sxsoffroad]

@@waferzworld so crazy

[@waferzworld]

@@sxsoffroad You can find older TRX90s pretty cheap and those things are pretty bulletproof

[@Erix7810]

@@waferzworld good luck with the banshee search. For a decent oem, maybe piped, banshee you’re still looking at spending 6k+.

[@paul_t_kendall]

Living in Utah in the heart of sxs country the number of them is mind boggling. The price of new ones is unreal. 20-50k! I’m sorry I can buy a fully used moded jeep, 4runner, Fj, etc, and a good used or new atv for less than one northstar or defender-which I’ve used a bunch, but for the money they are simply POS. There is a Polaris razor for sale on every corner.

[@sxsoffroad]

There are so many for sale right now

[@mr.wilson8340]

@@hahaadventures4838 Maybe stupid in your opinion, but your opinion doesn’t represent most owners.

[@wealthyblackman2655]

THAT MARKET NEEDS TO COLLAPSE! ALL THOSE MACHINES ARE SO POORLY ENGINEERED, DESIGNED AND BUILT THAT THEY DIE IN THREE MONTHS! YOU CAN BUY AN OLD VW BEETLE FOR 2,000 DOLLARS AND FOR ANOTHER 2,000 YOU CAN EASILY BUILD A BETTER MACHINE FOR OFF ROAD FUN!

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U

[@gladegoodrich2297]

UTVs have destroyed our mountains in So. Utah.

[@sxsoffroad]

This is a very challenging statement. Can you be precise on the location of the southern utah mountains you’re speaking of? I’m part of advocacy groups who raise money and tend to trails and areas constantly. Off roading in Utah existed before SXS’s. If there is an area that has “been destroyed” please bring it to the attention of people here so that something positive can be done.

[@gladegoodrich2297]

Duck Creek and all areas around it are just beat to death. Wasn't a problem untill all the Vegas people showed up. Now theres a hundred or more videos on come to Duck Creek. Place is totally trashed!

[@sxsoffroad]

@@gladegoodrich2297 if you were to convey a message to riders, what would it be? People will read this.

[@gladegoodrich2297]

Nothin I can say that will make any difference. Every year more will come and things will only get worse.

[@T51B1]

The market had to correct itself at some point. Over $40K for some of these machines now is just ridiculous.

[@jamesyates3140]

I have a 2015 wild cat trail added a lift and width kit love it 8500 brand new 2000 for the kit and out preform most of the 30000 dollars machines I ride with and it's paid for

[@sxsoffroad]

That wildcat was an under rated machine

[@jos6083]

don't know what type of interest rates they charge for financing but imagine payments on these are gonna start weighing heavily on people's budgets

[@sxsoffroad]

likely of they are buying now, local credit union is at 7.99

[@petergozinya2607]

Nobody wants to pay $17-$25k for a side by side...my niece and her husband bought a new Northstar ranger 4 door..and one of my best friends owns the dealership and he cut her a deal and it was still over $25k !!!!!!!!!

[@sxsoffroad]

Actually, most would love it if they were only that much!!

[@olliechristopher467]

This is what happened to the ATV market over 15 years ago. Not surprising at all. I'm so happy I have stayed with 2 wheels all these years.

[@sxsoffroad]

Can you believe how cheap used motorcycles have gotten? I’m talking Harley’s in particular. So strange

[@olliechristopher467]

@@sxsoffroad Yikes Harley!!

[@fabyanjim1]

Yup your spot on with the economy !,

[@hazmatt81]

I sat back with my popcorn to watch this play out. It was inevitable! Great video regarding this!

[@terrybrown3224]

Had old 2006 can am 650 as I recall 4 wheeler no complaints, then got cheap landmaster 400 I recon it was recall honda motor again not a bad deal. We get low cost functional for working woods

[@sxsoffroad]

Low cost, functional. Those are good words to live by

[@russellmitchell7376]

Next should be snowmobiles the prices are way to high on all these toys

[@JMonOutdoors]

Pretty sure saw that one coming, when a SXS costs as much or more than some trucks and only get a fraction of the miles out of them.

[@sxsoffroad]

Sub and watch my next vid. Coming out very soon. Covers some of this and some unpopular opinions

[@JMonOutdoors]

@@sxsoffroad you got it 👍🏼. Hopefully same theory of this applies to boats cuz I’m looking to buy a nice used one next Summer.

[@sxsoffroad]

@@JMonOutdoors I think that most people are going to be dumping toys but the question is, how many will have to deal with the blow of HOW they bought it.

[@JMonOutdoors]

@@sxsoffroad I definitely agree with your theory and reasoning man. Good informal stuff.

[@brandon367011]

really want that pro r but man I don’t wanna pay 40k I’d be stupid to pay that

[@sxsoffroad]

They are incredible machines and over the top for the average weekender. I know guys who went all in and are over 90k into them now. But… they also own business related to them so being big and flashy sells.

[@scottlance2447]

Looked at Polaris recently… local dealer has rigs with $60k pricing… they’re out of their minds. Problem is they actually sell to suckers willing to finance 60 k at 18%…. We need a reset.

[@LT4Nova]

I sold my Polaris Ranger 18' XP in August for 2k more than I paid for it...That's how I knew it was only a matter of time....

[@messagesystem333]

Not crashing low enough. Sxs dealers around here still want over $30k for Ranger Northstar.

[@sxsoffroad]

work vehicles will stay up

[@YetiRC]

I mean when you see 40k for a UTV its pretty ridiculous. maybe manufactures will take the note and swap back to Quads.

[@demwillams8898]

Lol have u priced quads in the last 5 years? They aren't any better and have just as crap of a warranty/ build quality for the most part

[@sxsoffroad]

or snowmobiles...

[@demwillams8898]

@@sxsoffroad remembering how fond I was of snowmobiling as a child/young adult, many years later into adulthood I said to myself, "I should get back into snowmobiles". I then looked at the prices of modern sleds and said, "oops nevermind". 3-6k days are long gone lol

[@Obamaistoast2012]

I prefer a quad over a utv, a utv is too big for mountain trails and way to overpriced.

[@jamesb2291]

I'll just buy a barely used one for cash when everyone starts selling their overpriced toys over the coming years

[@WewuzKangz85]

Repos and foreclosures are up. Economy is crap. What do you expect lol. My grocery bill is up $300 a month and my gas up $400. People don’t have money for toys rn.

[@sxsoffroad]

Check out the vid I did yesterday, talks about the prices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWvmWiqrKaLZ8U