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Is the Boeing 777X about to be delayed until 2026? Lufthansa's CEO seems to think so following new comments. Additionally, Emirates has forecasted a 2026 delivery since the beginning of 2024. These developments come as the aircraft manufacturer struggles to certify its new widebody jets and faces persistent questions in markets around the quality of its aircraft.
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@Eyankoh
@Eyankoh 3 ай бұрын
By the time this aircraft certified, the airbus already introducing A350neo 💀
@ShadeGaming4444
@ShadeGaming4444 3 ай бұрын
i think the A360 has a better chance of coming out first at this rate
@matth9254
@matth9254 2 ай бұрын
A350 is not the competitor to 777x. It competes against 787. Cant have 10 abreast super comfy in the a350 and it isnt as high capacity in cargo or passengers.
@ishiddddd4783
@ishiddddd4783 2 ай бұрын
@@matth9254 A350-1000 does compete vs the 777, well that's iF the 777X were even in service, the a350-900 is the 787-10 and 777-8 competitor.
@TonyLee-th1vv
@TonyLee-th1vv 2 ай бұрын
@@ishiddddd4783 Who knows? A350-1100 Neo is coming out suddenly, that's will check mate to 777x-9
@moussochocolat779
@moussochocolat779 2 ай бұрын
Lmfao😂
@jocelynharris-fx8ho
@jocelynharris-fx8ho 3 ай бұрын
New Boeing ad: "passengers are just dying to fly with us"!!
@thomassharp2719
@thomassharp2719 3 ай бұрын
Luv it !!
@emmanuelmayr5895
@emmanuelmayr5895 3 ай бұрын
😭😭😭
@AnomymAnonym
@AnomymAnonym 3 ай бұрын
the saga will not end until boeing takes some accountability
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
of what
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 ай бұрын
Or its commercial aircraft division is sold off to another manufacture that still has a reputation for engineering excellence and quality management along with experience in designing and building commercial aircraft, say someone like Bombardier of Canada.
@coletrickle581
@coletrickle581 3 ай бұрын
What are you suggesting exactly?
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 quality management for one.
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 ай бұрын
@@coletrickle581 who?
@shanemc9495
@shanemc9495 3 ай бұрын
I bet it won’t be till 2027-28 that this plane gets in to service
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
or 2029 or 2030 or 31 or 32 and so on. you cant just keep on saying further delays until something miracle happens
@a300thanhlong
@a300thanhlong 3 ай бұрын
By that time Boeing is gone.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@a300thanhlong proof?
@merrick6484
@merrick6484 3 ай бұрын
American productivity and efficiency is well known by the world, for being the worse on northern hemisphere.
@Archduke17
@Archduke17 3 ай бұрын
Isn't bad news for Boeing a given?
@rickythehumanoid
@rickythehumanoid 3 ай бұрын
what do you expect from a company who doesnt care about safety anyway?
@mindplanes
@mindplanes 3 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen such a downhill company..
@ricky1231
@ricky1231 3 ай бұрын
Exactly !!!!
@smcitconsultinggmbh991
@smcitconsultinggmbh991 3 ай бұрын
Slow down the delivery of new airplanes ✈️ and maybe me get a better quality 😮
@carlosfigueiredo9123
@carlosfigueiredo9123 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree just chasing profits and not concerned about safety
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
Aurbus doesn't care about safety. Still profits at the end of the day
@Sunthoriscool
@Sunthoriscool 3 ай бұрын
I’m not surprised. Rather disappointed
@NewEnglandAviaton987
@NewEnglandAviaton987 3 ай бұрын
None of us are suprised
@kkrsnn5632
@kkrsnn5632 3 ай бұрын
It's a standard.
@TwilightRealm723
@TwilightRealm723 3 ай бұрын
Upcoming Boeing aircraft EIS prediction: -MAX 7: 2026 -MAX 10: 2029 -777X-9: 2030 -777X-8 (pax var.): Spring 2031 -777X-8F: Fall 2031
@lucasabrams9451
@lucasabrams9451 3 ай бұрын
Tbh that's actually realistic
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@lucasabrams9451 going by what evidence?
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
and what evidence is that all based off?
@KKw0ng-m1m
@KKw0ng-m1m 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 sarcasm (which might turns out to be true by chance lol)
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@KKw0ng-m1m we shall see
@ivanviera4773
@ivanviera4773 3 ай бұрын
Tim Clark Emirates CEO has said the same the certification flights have not even begin . By the time this plane its certified the technology of the 777X would be not very new.
@mandandi
@mandandi 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, certainly true. The technology will be 7 years old. Meanwhile Airbus has reduced the empty weight of the A350 by 2 tonnes! They might find more improvements on the A350 by then. RR is also improving the efficiency of Trent-XWB. Great for airline companies.
@reubenmorris487
@reubenmorris487 3 ай бұрын
The 777X has been making test flights for YEARS. Can't say who's having more problems right now; GE with the contaminated powdered metal or Boeing with it's certification paperwork.
@frankpinmtl
@frankpinmtl 3 ай бұрын
They don't have a TIA yet. Once the FAA grants them one, it takes a year to get certification
@frankpinmtl
@frankpinmtl 3 ай бұрын
@@reubenmorris487 No TIA yet. They're not cert flights
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@mandandi Technology that is 7 years old will be the same as it was when it came out. what technology now isnt the same as when it came out in 2020?
@ronaldsudul801
@ronaldsudul801 3 ай бұрын
It’s a shame. These are no longer the same type of engineers who developed and built the 747 back in the 70’s. I used to work on the field at JFK and how amazing it was to see that plane and how much pride there was
@devonc8411
@devonc8411 3 ай бұрын
Do you know that 2 Boeing whistleblowers had died?
@Williamb612
@Williamb612 3 ай бұрын
I have heard that Boeing is trying to save money by sourcing engineers from Costco
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@devonc8411 Whats that got to do with the 777x?
@nathanbedford3443
@nathanbedford3443 3 ай бұрын
​@@nickolliver3021boeing
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@nathanbedford3443 and
@theskyline1425
@theskyline1425 3 ай бұрын
There's something I still don't understand. The plane has been in flight testing for 4 years now if I'm not wrong. I get that certification has been strict but why the hell is the plane getting delayed over and over again? Or is it that when Boeing fumbles a bit the FAA decides to further delay the plane's certification despite the progress made?
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 3 ай бұрын
IT IS FAULTY?
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@trevorhart545 How?
@phildane7411
@phildane7411 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 Because of poor Boeing quality control.
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 3 ай бұрын
Wrong wrong wrong... It has not yet BEGAN certification flights.
@erauprcwa
@erauprcwa 3 ай бұрын
It's the FAA... Same with the Max 7 and 10... The AD on the MAX 8 and 9 also exists for the Max 7 and 10, but the FAA wants a fix that can't quite be done. So out of fear, the FAA isn't certifying anything
@Williamb612
@Williamb612 3 ай бұрын
Love how the narrator said the plane will not be released into service until the FAA deems it safe enough. I wonder what the parameter is for not safe enough to safe enough. I would suggest not entering into service until it is 100 💯 safe
@musawenkosimavuso566
@musawenkosimavuso566 3 ай бұрын
I pray the 777-X doesn’t kill innocent passengers as did the 737-Max
@KOBRA96-45
@KOBRA96-45 2 ай бұрын
Doubt it will. 777 is pretty safe
@IceGuye
@IceGuye 3 ай бұрын
Well, the real bad news is that: Not too many people here on KZbin have ever tried to purchase a brand new jetliner lol. If you want to purchase a brand new Boeing 777-300er or Airbus A350-1000 right now, it may take another 5 years or so to get your first delivery. If you order a Boeing 777x, or the Airbus A350neo right now, it may take you a decade to get it. It is basically a supply-and-demand situation but more complicated. Lufthansa, Emirates, and many financial institutions and leasing companies have already signed their purchase agreements years ago. They signed their agreements without knowing too much about the end products, because they need to consider about many other factors, including their business plan, delivery schedule, and more importantly, financial and discount. You never know their deals. So, if any bad things happen, such as the several issues on the 737 Max, delivery delaying, all the stakeholders will need to work together in order to rectify the problems. It's not like you can just piss off Boeing and walk-in into an Airbus dealer like buying pants from Marshalls or Walmart.
@frankpinmtl
@frankpinmtl 3 ай бұрын
Huh? No. You can get an A350-1000 a lot sooner. Airbus is bumping production to 12 a month - 144 a year. Backlog is 600, but Airbus has spots available, if you want them...Stop equating the two
@artrandy
@artrandy 3 ай бұрын
Emirates should have already ordered the A350-1000 as insurance, because they knew the B777X was delayed until 2026, and who would bet the delays are not longer? Instead, Clark has threatened Boeing with cancellation and criticised RR (for daring to charge more for their TC maintenance package on the XWB-97, than the 84). How to win friends and influence people? I introduce you to Sir Tim Arrogant Clark😀😀. Its inconceivable that Emirates will cancel the B777X, but they will have to order the A351 as well, engine upgrade or not, so better do it before Airbus take another big order this summer, or Emirates could have a lot of vintage aircraft by 2030............
@patrickpeters2903
@patrickpeters2903 3 ай бұрын
Perfectly described....
@chingweixion621
@chingweixion621 3 ай бұрын
Neither TC or RR willing to give in... Thats is why there is no order till date...
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@patrickpeters2903 yes because thats what you believe
@artrandy
@artrandy 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 😀😀..........
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@artrandy 😆😆
@wilburfinnigan2142
@wilburfinnigan2142 3 ай бұрын
The 777X-9 flew over my house yesterday at less than a thousand ft going into Moses Lake on test flight, man what a quiet plane !!!
@johnmartinez5472
@johnmartinez5472 3 ай бұрын
wow lucky you i’d love to see this great majestic aircraft up close
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 3 ай бұрын
EMPTY as it might remain forever?
@andrewallen9993
@andrewallen9993 3 ай бұрын
Did any parts fall off it because they weren't bolted on?
@genxer74
@genxer74 3 ай бұрын
Ah, Moses Lake. I remember many times I took the P-3 over that way.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewallen9993 What parts did you see that fell off because they were not bolted on?
@whoops607
@whoops607 3 ай бұрын
Trouble at Boeing? Who'd have thunk it.
@user-ow9dg2xj7y
@user-ow9dg2xj7y 3 ай бұрын
Been waiting for that much time that airbus has built new versions of planes like A321ULR..
@matsv201
@matsv201 3 ай бұрын
The A321ULR share almost all component with the A321LR. Apart from the center tank and some gear assembly stuff. Worth saying those update will also be integrated in the neo update family that airbus is ramping out.
@mindplanes
@mindplanes 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think airlines would care too much as they have the more “successful” a350 that has no problems
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 3 ай бұрын
As a European Brit I disagree. IF every one just bought Airbus then the DRIVE for Innovation and Improvement COULD Fall down to the current Boeing levels = WE HAVE ALL LOST! Biden Demoncrats are only making it worse PUMPING MONEY INTO the Corporation with sudden Military orders. Dumping Lockheed Martin F-35C aircraft REQUESTED by USN for BOEING f/A-18 Super Hornets NOT requested. Stupidity! I hope Lockheed Martin along with the European Commission, the WTO and Airbus Sue Boeing for many $Billions. WE NEED BOEING BUT NOT THIS BOEING.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
Neither does the 777x. Its just a delay that is taking forever because of this event in January.
@manny8265
@manny8265 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 ?🙃
@charlesbruggmann7909
@charlesbruggmann7909 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 Genuine question: why should the B737max problems cause a delay in certification for 777x? It is, after all, a completely different aircraft.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@charlesbruggmann7909 I kind of question that too. You will have some say that its the same company same problems across all aircraft programs and then some that say certain ones have better operations than other aircraft programs so tbh I dont think the 737nax problems delay the certification of 777x. its more to do with airline CEO's worrying too much that they will be delayed hence the media saying deliveries will be delayed when yet the manufacturer will want to certify and deliver frames that same year to its customers
@cris471
@cris471 3 ай бұрын
Why am I not surprised?
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 ай бұрын
A Delta Boeing 767 lost one of its emergency slides after takeoff four days ago and had to return to make an emergency landing. It is reported said slide landed in the yard of a lawyer involved in sueing Boeing. Also, apparently this was not the only emergency slide in Boeing aircraft that decide in mid flight to bail.
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 3 ай бұрын
Do you blame the slide? Saving itself?
@brian402
@brian402 3 ай бұрын
How convenient that the emergency slide should end up in the lap, of that lawyer who is suing Boeing!., lol it was mean’t to be as fate has it.
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 ай бұрын
@@brian402 That, or Boeing is trying to send a subtle hint to said lawyer, sort like the horsehead in the bed scene in the Godfather.......
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 ай бұрын
@@trevorhart545 could well be......and apparently it wasn't the only one to do so, also another Delta Boeing aircraft, a 757 this time lost a nose wheel while taxiing to the takeoff runway in Atlantis on Jan 23rd this year. Seem's Delta is having sevicing issues with their Boeings.
@ethanschultz960
@ethanschultz960 3 ай бұрын
These are 20+ year old planes just to let you know
@StarTrekMarco
@StarTrekMarco 3 ай бұрын
I think the FAA at this point is waiting with their approval and certification of the 777X until Boeing got their internal restructuring properly done. They will also have to wait and see if all these measures have actually any effect on the manufacturing of Boeing aircraft, this will take a lot of time, certainly longer than summer 2027.
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 3 ай бұрын
BOEING could help by kicking out its current Board Members including the New Ones and bringing in people that are NOT Boeing Tainted. Then we might to start to have some trust. An external assessment of Boeing Senior Managers might help. The CURE has always been in Boeings hands but Biden Demoncrats giving Boeing "SURPRISE" Military Orders = ILLEGAL SUBSIDIES only make matters worse.
@wilburfinnigan2142
@wilburfinnigan2142 3 ай бұрын
NAW !!! The FAA is pissed because the FAA was NOT doing their job, understaffed , not qualified to fly the planes and let Boeing do the work and when the $hit hit the fan FAA took the heat and all this delay is retalitory and is definetly not good for business anywhere, why multi years to certify when the first 707 was certified in months ?????
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 3 ай бұрын
@@wilburfinnigan2142the FAA was doing their job. They tried to not interfere too much, since they felt that Boeing could be trusted. The 707 was certified in 1958. We don’t live in 1958, things have changed.
@chad-lad
@chad-lad 3 ай бұрын
You do know there were less safety rule and certification back then... goddamn it​@@wilburfinnigan2142
@matsv201
@matsv201 3 ай бұрын
​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183it should not take 8 years to certify airliner. It should take 12-18 month. Granted, there was some problems. But much less than 787 and 737max
@baldomeroguerra654
@baldomeroguerra654 26 күн бұрын
Boeing factory , the best 🇺🇸👍💪
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 3 ай бұрын
Boeing literally designed and certified the 747 ina timeframe shorter than the DELAY period of the 777x.
@johnchristmas7522
@johnchristmas7522 3 ай бұрын
Brit here, never been sure of the FAA, always been in Boeings pocket but if its the FAA now holding up the 777x then maybe the FAA is getting back to what it should have been. That said, all the delays are to my mind Boeing being forced to do it right for a change. Would not do anybody any good if one fell out of the sky with over 400 on board. Emirates must be getting its confidence from somewhere. So lets hope it finally arrives and is safe. Tim Clarke seems to be the only one who knows his onions and feels confident enough to keep the order.
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 3 ай бұрын
OR FAA Officials are SCARED that IF they give approval and a FAILURE happens THEY WILL BE WITHOUT A JOB OR PENSION?
@douglasthompson2740
@douglasthompson2740 3 ай бұрын
Either that or he is a complete fool and moves to the back of the Airbus line. You never know the motivation as a lot of pockets get filled along the way to a new order. What we see, most is self serving and not in the best interest of the company they are getting paid by. There is almost no accountability in the corporate world.
@doughboi007
@doughboi007 2 ай бұрын
I remember watching its first flight in 2018, but now this is getting a little crazy.
@mahamaysam
@mahamaysam 3 күн бұрын
The 777X must also have these 787 windows.
@steveschein6935
@steveschein6935 3 ай бұрын
Profit over safety is Their motto.
@georgesteele2157
@georgesteele2157 3 ай бұрын
I question whether Boeing will EVER get the 777X, the 737-10 and the 737-7 certified.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
and airbus for the XLR. the industry is messed up completely
@phildane7411
@phildane7411 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 Nope, Airbus are doing very nicely, thank you.
@JstPixel
@JstPixel 3 ай бұрын
​@@nickolliver3021yeah, i agree
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@phildane7411 no they are not
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@JstPixel at least I'm not the only one who's noticed
@edwardhewer8530
@edwardhewer8530 3 ай бұрын
Not talking about the obvious issues at Boeing I have a question about commercial jet engines. Are we at the thin edge of wedge now? Is this motor too big? - creating other problems?
@orange8067
@orange8067 3 ай бұрын
At this point its not even boeings fault, the FAA aren't even bothering the schedule a date for certification. (IMO)
@nurrizadjatmiko21
@nurrizadjatmiko21 3 ай бұрын
If Boeing confirm those comments, Airline executives would be dead inside lol. The lesson from the Alaska 2024 incident is clear : Rushing making new aircraft puts passengers at risk. For now, i believe the 777X would likely be certified by mid-2025.
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 3 ай бұрын
IF EVER?
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
thats what i think too. Airline CEO's are a bit dramatic and worry too much
@phildane7411
@phildane7411 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 It's a shame for Boeing that most airline execs want to keep their customers alive.
@kubastolarczyk5217
@kubastolarczyk5217 3 ай бұрын
Airbus is and could possibly become bigger if some customers cancel their 777 the a350 is clearly dominating atm
@sheansankar2998
@sheansankar2998 3 ай бұрын
Its worth the wait. Airlines have other planes they can use in the meantime.
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 3 ай бұрын
WHAT until 2040?
@jet4926
@jet4926 3 ай бұрын
It seems to me that the're not sitting down together and try to iron out the problem.
@xolanikoketso9953
@xolanikoketso9953 Ай бұрын
The 777x is GTA 6 of aviation at this point💀
@pentameteriamb6196
@pentameteriamb6196 3 ай бұрын
What in the name of hell is the problem with Boeing? Is this the first plane that Boeing has ever made? You'd think so... Dear Alan Mulally where art thou because BOEING NEEDS YOU!!
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
its not Boeing! its the drama of CEO's that are the problem. they are worrying too much
@tatakai1286
@tatakai1286 3 ай бұрын
At this point airbus should develop an a350-2000 with the same capacity as the 777x since we might never see this plane in service and airlines need something to replace it
@747forever9
@747forever9 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the vid dj!!
@ShadeGaming4444
@ShadeGaming4444 3 ай бұрын
oh wow. gee. gosh. i am so surprised. cant you tell how surprised i am?
@wimkok5046
@wimkok5046 3 ай бұрын
All speculations.. Is it Boeing or FAA fault? I do not hear why certifications had been delayed??
@Drew-do9wx
@Drew-do9wx Ай бұрын
Is the problem just with Boeing or is the certification process so rigorous that it really needs to take this long? If Boeing is the problem, how so? Does it have something to do with being watched more closely this time? Maybe they got used to cutting corners and lost their know-how for going through the process correctly?
@stevesmoneypit6137
@stevesmoneypit6137 3 ай бұрын
The 777X would improve any route now operated by the A380
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 3 ай бұрын
Key word there is “would”
@martinmdl6879
@martinmdl6879 3 ай бұрын
MC-21 is in LRIP Low Rate Initial Production, airframe #30. They will be certified and building 30+ per month in Q2 2025.
@davidefarina5146
@davidefarina5146 3 ай бұрын
Its crazy that after the 737 crashes Boeing didn't learn the lesson still. That's awful.
@a921dji3
@a921dji3 3 ай бұрын
The delay is due in large part to GE and their GE9X engine. Why no mention of this?
@danycashking
@danycashking 3 ай бұрын
because it doesn't matter too much, airlines order the finished product from Boeing, that their suppliers are having issues is irrelevant because the plane won't be certified or delivered until the complete product is functional
@a921dji3
@a921dji3 3 ай бұрын
While Boeing deserves blame for lots of things, there are 15 finished 777x planes sitting on the ramp in Everett without engines. You can even see it on Google maps or Apple Maps. Most of the delay is due to GE. It would be accurate to reflect that in the report.
@MarkJohnson-zy4fd
@MarkJohnson-zy4fd 3 ай бұрын
Fortunately, critics and commentators don’t build aircraft.
@antoniosoares2903
@antoniosoares2903 3 ай бұрын
that's it
@frederickmoller
@frederickmoller 3 ай бұрын
Nor do builders, so it seems.
@tonysaberwal8895
@tonysaberwal8895 3 ай бұрын
Let us get one fact right - Boeing Aircraft Company is NOT Boeing any more - it is McDonald Douglas!
@MikeCTRVLR
@MikeCTRVLR 3 ай бұрын
The Manpower Development and training act allowed Boeing to train a large group of high-quality Inspectors during the 727 and early 747 programs. A similar program may be needed now to help Boeing out of their mess.
@RobertH-qb5it
@RobertH-qb5it 3 ай бұрын
So what critical component of the 777 will be failing? Can we take bets now?
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 3 ай бұрын
Well the fuselage already gave up during a pressure test before reaching the required 150%
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
you tell us your asking
@johnmartinez5472
@johnmartinez5472 3 ай бұрын
i am glad that boeing is taking its time-they need to get it perfect…..lest something go wrong-these same hypocrites that are criticizing boeing would be the very first to bash them…..you really cannot win….i have absolute faith in boeing build great quality jets as you’ve always done….
@davidcorbett62
@davidcorbett62 3 ай бұрын
I think 2027 is an early variant launch to customers. There must be very serious problems with this aircraft and I do not care if you’re the biggest Boeing fan or not… Yes the FAA will force a delay until they are 200% sure it’s a safe aircraft. At the moment it’s obviously not! If I was waiting to the arrival of a new wide body I would be asking what the. A350 production line ie if I can order them.. within a shorter period of time!! Lufthansa I imagine have capable people re this? But one thing the A380 was not brought in by Lufty because of the late arrival of the 777x.. only to wrangle a further discount They need the A380 because of huge increased load factors which the 777x couldn’t fill even if fully functioning
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
This is why certification is needed very soon or the whole industry will go upside down and collapse
@TheTransporter007
@TheTransporter007 3 ай бұрын
I hope that EASA/FAA outright reject certification. This company needs to be taught a HARD lesson.
@jgnclvgmng5408
@jgnclvgmng5408 3 ай бұрын
EASA will. FAA will try to do what the government wants, and Boeing bribes them to.
@FlyingNL
@FlyingNL 3 ай бұрын
Why exactly? What if they found their way again with the 777x? Would you still reject certification if it was perfectly safe?
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
Why would they reject it because of the company needing to be taught a hard lesson
@FlyingNL
@FlyingNL 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 that’s not a reason, really. I don’t disagree with the fact that Boeing has to be thought a lesson, but rejecting an aircraft to do so isn’t the way.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@FlyingNL the lesson needs to be taught on the 737 line of the company. The 777x is fine but yes rejecting a plahe that is doing really well in testing does not need to be rejecting
@done-ahhh578
@done-ahhh578 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if BA is missing some of its high J config 747-400s now the 777x is so delayed. They were still very profitable on the London to US northeast routes.
@mattdaugherty7865
@mattdaugherty7865 3 ай бұрын
Something tells me you’re an “Airbus” man!
@kenphillips7594
@kenphillips7594 3 ай бұрын
And a second whistleblower death? One is a mistake, two might be coincidence but if there's a third?????
@seanedghill5025
@seanedghill5025 3 ай бұрын
That's how they roll in america. You get in the way, you get black listed. Very much like how they operate in Russia.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
where has a third one died?
@psychoticcapybara9362
@psychoticcapybara9362 3 ай бұрын
This plane wont be groundbreaking or not even very good by the time it gets approved.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
how will you even know
@psychoticcapybara9362
@psychoticcapybara9362 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 cause it's been delayed for like 7 years already and Boeing can't update it without having to test it again. While Airbus has been updating it's A350 in this time. When the Boeing 777X was starting it's testing it was vastly superior to the A350 now they are on very equal footing. Hell only the engine is still groundbreaking. But even then Rolls Royce is also advancing it's engines so that advantage won't be their for so long.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@psychoticcapybara9362 7 years? Only 4 at the moment. They don't need to update it to test it again. The 777x will be game changer once its certified. The world will be relived that its finally done and dusted. But the engines are not the problem but faa slowing it down
@alicelund147
@alicelund147 3 ай бұрын
But Emirates does not really have the option to change to A350. Because if they order Airbus now the deliveries will be many years from now.
@terencereeder9830
@terencereeder9830 3 ай бұрын
Just think Emirates next plane is the Airbus A350-900 ,that should take pressure off some routes.
@matsv201
@matsv201 3 ай бұрын
Still the 777x is needed on the world market to cool down the situation.
@Singthad
@Singthad 3 ай бұрын
At this point, it's only a matter of time before reality sets into Boeing.
@leezinke4351
@leezinke4351 3 ай бұрын
I saw this plane flew over my house few times I was really surprised how quiet it was.
@timduggan1461
@timduggan1461 3 ай бұрын
Is there a lack of interest? Not enough firm orders in an enhanced B-777? A manufacturer won't commit unless there is a market. The A-350 seems a strong competition.
@flamboone9727
@flamboone9727 3 ай бұрын
This is not boding well for the new CEO. This trickle of bad news daily is not very good for “consumers confidence “ for starters.
@divid3dbyZero
@divid3dbyZero 3 ай бұрын
Seems more and more like Vaporware. This plane has been in certification testing since ?2020? How are the Emirates test flights going? At this rate Rolls Royce will have their engine issues addressed for Emarites with the A350 before this plane flies for a carrier. Who knows what production will be like by the time they can start to scale.
@tevinmcleod1767
@tevinmcleod1767 3 ай бұрын
Informative. I can't wait till this aircraft enters into service 😬😬😬😬😬😬
@allthat46
@allthat46 Ай бұрын
We will see RDR3 before the 777X
@sacasio3
@sacasio3 3 ай бұрын
With all the negative reports about Boeing, will resolving the issues make their planes more durable, reliable, and require less preventive maintenance? I believe it will surpass all controversies
@outby50
@outby50 3 ай бұрын
The original 747 went from first flight to EIS in 347 days. As of today, 5 May 2024, the 777-9X, 737 Max 7, and 737 Max 10 are collectively averaging 1,619 days since first flight. With no end or EIS in sight for any of them. The 777-9X is at 1,562 days. The 737 Max 7 is at 2,242 days. The 737 Max 10 is at 1,052 days. Think about that a minute. The original 747 went from first flight to EIS in 347 days.
@miller-joel
@miller-joel 3 ай бұрын
I don't care about delays. I care about quality control and whistleblowers being listened to instead of murdered.
@domx_686
@domx_686 3 ай бұрын
If it´s Boeing, i´m not going.
@TrainspottingPerson
@TrainspottingPerson 3 ай бұрын
Can you talk about beregional in your next vid its the new flybe 3.0
@roodeparkecoestate9013
@roodeparkecoestate9013 3 ай бұрын
I think the Boeing 777X is the back bone of the company,thats why they contued with the aircraft,meanwhile the 787 is doin good on the market.what an aircraft 😊. 777X
@aposteriori421
@aposteriori421 3 ай бұрын
We really should move into the 800 series
@timduggan1461
@timduggan1461 3 ай бұрын
Can you describe, DJ, the delay in the B-777-X or B-777-9 as displayed?
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 3 ай бұрын
The first few years of the delay was problems with the new engines - which is due to GE, not Boeing. Except maybe Boeing should have hedged their bets by offering buyers a choice of engines, as Airbus often does. But the current delays are from the from the FAA being really tough on certifying it. Since the 737MAX disaster the FAA no longer trusts Boeing at all (who can blame them?) and thoroughly questions absolutely everything they do. They've kinda lurched from one extreme to the other.
@The-Cat
@The-Cat 3 ай бұрын
DREAM liner
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 3 ай бұрын
Because purging the ranks of whistleblowers comes first!
@rgt4848
@rgt4848 3 ай бұрын
Boeing is holding aviation (and space exploration) back
@2chuck
@2chuck 3 ай бұрын
They now have at least 3 different aircraft types they can't seem to even get approved. B737-Max 7, B737-Max 10 and the 777X. The B787 seems to be having delivery problems as well, but at least they are approved by the FAA. They seem to have lost their way. Airlines are losing business because they can't operate a planned full schedule due to pushed back delivery dates. It just seems to getting worse at Boeing. I can sure understand Airline Executives' conundrum. I wonder if any of this has to do with them outsourcing a lot of their Enginering to Mumbai, India? It's not that Indian Engineers are a problem, but being that far away can make communication with Corporate more difficult and it's easier for Bean Counters at Boeing HDQ to override them.
@frankpinmtl
@frankpinmtl 3 ай бұрын
Actually 5. Max 7 & 10, as you pointed out. 777-9 in 2026. Planned 777-8 by 2030 and the 777F, as well.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
@@frankpinmtl no just 3
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
They haven't lost their way because of 777x delay nor 787 delivery problems? The problems are that airlines are needing these planes but Airline CEO's are making a big drama over a possible slight delay in new planes like 777x here. You dont know if its true or confirmed by the manufacturer
@frankpinmtl
@frankpinmtl 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 Really? So all 777X's are going to be certified in 2026?
@frankpinmtl
@frankpinmtl 3 ай бұрын
@@nickolliver3021 Airline CEO's are the problem, huh? You mean the guys who were promised to get their jets in 2019, but now have to wait until 2026? Those guys? The same guys Boeing has run up the compensation balance, giving away $4 billion in cash to? Those guys? The same guys who didn't get Max's for 2 years and 787's for 20 months? Those guys? geez - what a bunch of cry-babies...
@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071
@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 3 ай бұрын
Boeing will end up scrapping the 777 program. They will have to come up with a brand-new model instead. The disaster of 737 Max and 777 is very serious so a newer 767 and 787 will most likely come out instead. Also a 757 is an option.
@drevil2675
@drevil2675 3 ай бұрын
Great news to humanity.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
to you it will be
@rosemaryhricko7697
@rosemaryhricko7697 3 ай бұрын
Love Lufty 😘♥️
@ndenkha
@ndenkha 3 ай бұрын
It has always been my favorite two engines jetliner, but these engines look positioned similar to the horrible MAX, they're way in front of the wing, that could cause balance issues as the MAX suffers from.
@christopherkozal7987
@christopherkozal7987 3 ай бұрын
What’s the reason(s)?
@ralphsmith242
@ralphsmith242 3 ай бұрын
"Since the 737-MAX crisis???" No, Sir. Absolutely not. The sentinel event was the F-35's Initial Operational Capability in 2010 (B model), 2011 (A model) and 2012 (C model).
@miller-joel
@miller-joel 3 ай бұрын
Boeing doesn't make the F-35.
@ezekielmajor5511
@ezekielmajor5511 2 ай бұрын
Dammit! Enough. Orders are going to get cancelled. Disgusted with Boeing at this point.
@madaboutsnooker147
@madaboutsnooker147 3 ай бұрын
That ending track is nails on a chalkboard.....
@dwormon4591
@dwormon4591 3 ай бұрын
Would love to see how much money was spent on this production ??? Need some good engineers management from brazil.
@greensoba
@greensoba 3 ай бұрын
Lufthansa's CEO's comments aren't the blow to the program. It's Boeing's failure to delivery that is the blow the to program. Don't make it look like Lufthansa is responsible when Boeing is. I know that's not what you're trying to say, but you need to be clear about these things in your script.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
Its not Boeings own failure to deliver. Airbus should be given the blow because they fail to deliver planes on time as well. Boeing isnt responsible because what problem is there about 777x thats giving it the extra delay if CEO's say its looking more into 2026?
@Aviation_of_Houston
@Aviation_of_Houston 3 ай бұрын
Now the 777-9 Delayed until 2026! And what about the 777-8?
@raybuchan8298
@raybuchan8298 3 ай бұрын
Maybe you should stop commenting on Boeing as you never have anything positive to say to say.
@georgedyson9754
@georgedyson9754 3 ай бұрын
Well, when cost cutting to make more money for investors starts to take a higher priority than quality manufacturing, what do you expect? Not the first time this management philosophy has led to the opposite of what they thought by requiring a lot of problems that have to be fixed after initial product release costing more money than if they had focussed on quality and safety focussed production in the first place.
@w12amg51
@w12amg51 3 ай бұрын
飛行中にドアが吹き飛ぶボーイングだから、翼をたたむ構造がこわすぎるんよ。
@tomdavis8757
@tomdavis8757 3 ай бұрын
Forget about the 777x. They cannot even get the bread and butter 737 max 7 or 10 certified Cheers
@ma02741
@ma02741 3 ай бұрын
we don't think so, where is the sources from you? why you so tight to report the bad news , juys.
@Csharpflat5
@Csharpflat5 3 ай бұрын
Did we expect anything different with the clowns in charge.
@Michael-cv3wb
@Michael-cv3wb 3 ай бұрын
If it's Boeing, I ain't going ..
@christopherkozal7987
@christopherkozal7987 3 ай бұрын
Really? Thats really obtuse. The 777 is a very reliable airliner. But you do you…so brave!
@agrazon
@agrazon 3 ай бұрын
then, don’t.
@droppingemstv4283
@droppingemstv4283 3 ай бұрын
​@@christopherkozal7987the 777x hasn't been proven so dont speak to soon
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
then dont fly
@randeepsomel3079
@randeepsomel3079 3 ай бұрын
This is turning into a joke. The plane will be outdated by the time it enters service. It’s a 30 year old airframe with new wings and engine. How can it be this long delayed!!
@moussochocolat779
@moussochocolat779 2 ай бұрын
Boeing became a very big bad joke. Never fly with a new Boeing... NEVER
@emzu690
@emzu690 3 ай бұрын
Now I already know one more plane I will not get into.
@alanblanes2876
@alanblanes2876 3 ай бұрын
Boeing needs to become a worker cooperative that enables workers to have freedom of speech and puts integrity and quality ahead of short term profit, which the current management accepts as the only goal.
@nickolliver3021
@nickolliver3021 3 ай бұрын
thats what will be happening
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