Bad UK Driving Vol 317

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[@petergilderdale3562]

Driving instructors do not teach people to drive (in my opinion) they teach people to pass their driving tests, not the same thing.

[@-GrumpyOldMan]

I'm a truck driver in Germany. I've been saying that about German drivers for years.

[@simonmeadows7961]

If it's a big franchise, probably. Which is why I went with an independent. Made it clear from the outset that I wanted to learn to drive and we can focus on the test later. Still taught me turn in the road, though not reversing around the corner. Did cover a bit of I.A.M. stuff too that the DVSA don't exactly shout about.

[@xusiaxod6255]

Speak for yourself.

[@DevilsHand07]

Please be careful on your Rhetoric, one of the first conversations I have with my pupil is to inform them that I do NOT teach people to pass driving tests but how to drive carefully and safely on the Highway, and only when that standard is achieved do they go on to take their test. So please don’t tar all Instructors with your ideas. Thanks

[@botulf4908]

If they can't drive then they won't pass the driving test.

[@Larry]

I passed my test recently, the reason they don't teach three point turns anymore, is because they consider reverse bay parking and parallel parking to be the same manoeuvre. Though my instructor taught me anyway. They no longer teach you to reverse into smaller roads either.

[@simonbeattie5592]

The car shown at 11.04 is a replica of a customized Lincoln used in the 1977 tv movie called THE Car,starring James Brolin.

[@Madness832]

Yup, I saw that and I was like: ✝️💩!

[@Smoothbuttermilk]

Correct!

[@MG-iv9nw]

Or could it be one of the cars used in the film? Assuming there was more than one car. If so, then someone's spent a lot of money to bring it over here.

[@tonylock4999]

I was thinking it looks like the car the movie the car

[@plbingham]

you don't want to see that in your mirrors!!

[@shm5547]

7:55 regarding phones in cradles, I believe there are three laws that apply: 1. Road Vehicles Construction & Use 1986 (amendment 2 2022) Regulation 110: the well known can't-use-it-if-hand-held, updated in 2022 so that 'using' doesn't just involve communicating, but also illuminating the screen or unlocking device etc. Just having it in you hand is still ok though (if you just moved it without illuminating the screen - bit dicey if you have 'raise to wake' enabled!). 2. Road Vehicle Construction & Use 1986 Regulation 109: this is not widely known, but this regulation makes it illegal to display on a 'cinematic screen' information that is not related to the vehicle, it's position on the road (e.g. reversing camera) or navigation. This applies whether mounted or not. So technically, it appears to be illegal to use a mounted phone for any other purpose. This even caught the police out, as their in-car ANPR system had to be redesigned as the driver was able to see ANPR information, which would have breached this law. 3. Road Traffic Act 1988 Section 3: your classic careless driving, where the offence occurs if the driving falls below the standard of a careful and competent driver.

[@tanderson278]

I too have made the same comment.

[@ianmason.]

0:32 The right lane is only to be used when listening to the Talking Heads "Road to Nowhere".

[@thelondondashcam]

😂

[@suziforester]

Ha ha...love it ❤

[@susanwassall361]

7.34 Phone in cradle. I was led to believe from an MOT examiner that you were not allowed to have anything blocking your view within the arch of the Drivers side Wiper blade. In our previous car our tomtom was just within the arch & the examiner asked me to remove it prior to the test.

[@thelondondashcam]

Yes that is correct, it's pretty much the area the wipers go is where you shouldn't have anything on the windscreen.

[@sillybait1329]

My tomtom keeps being moved every mot, I always ask the chap why and then ask him where is it when i put my sun visor down? Its right behind it and they look at me as if I'm from another planet

[@TheKnightsShield]

11:00 Looks like a replica of the car from the 1977 movie The Car. It's a 1971 Lincoln Continental Mark III by Barris Kustoms.

[@OneOfThePauls]

Spot on!

[@coffeeflavouredapples]

I was going to say inspector Gadget car

[@Madness832]

The guy who was famous for such creations as the Munsters' Koach and the original Batmobile.

[@tanderson278]

I raised the issue of Regulation 109 and Smartphones with the Police in December 2018. Initially the Police replied saying Regulation 110 allows the driver to view a Smartphone when driving. A day or two later they changed their minds. I received a short email from the Police Officer stating "I agree, you are right!" What followed - Police Officers were issued with a waring stating that if they view the ANPR screens when driving, they would be committing an OFFENCE under Reg.109. In November 2020, a amendment (Vehicle Special Order VSO) was passed in Parliament, giving special dispensation to the Police, so that they could drive their Police cars legally.

[@ytr8989]

The government site says you can use dashboard or windscreen holder, as long as you do not hold them at any time during usage. Which is pretty much what CyclingMikey also says.

[@smilerbob]

The first 3 and a half minutes, you explain to us how to use a roundabout properly and how others are too lazy to use them properly. Agreed, people are too lazy to use roundabouts properly…including all those from 8:59 and the confession at the end…that is also lazy driving by yourself 😁 (All said in the best possible humour)

[@keith6400]

0:14 The right turn road marking is often omitted on UK roads because of consideration of foreign drivers who literally turn right at roundabouts as opposed to circulating the long way around the island.

[@noviceangler8084]

Some bus routes are common to other routes so they could have been sharing info about accident, road works etc.

[@Perseus7567]

Radios exist. Phones, ironically, exist. There's other communication devices which don't require busses to completely block two lanes of travel.

[@noviceangler8084]

@@Perseus7567 Phones while driving an 80 seater vehicle? lol but I get ya point hehe.

[@tanderson278]

Cycling Mikey has caught a few drivers using Facetime on a Smartphone in a cradle and he has not reported this. The problem is, I don't think the staff in Marlowe House would recognize the offence anyway. I could stand at the crossroads opposite the Premier Inn (right under their noses) catching handheld mobile phone drivers driving right past RZ every day!!!!

[@SteveStrummerUK]

Re: Clip #1 - I'm reliably informed that a lot of Highways Authorities no longer paint right turn arrows on the approach lanes to traffic islands because a lot of drivers have literally been understanding this as an instruction to immediately turn right without going round the island first, i.e. turning (anti-clockwise) straight into oncoming traffic.

[@daviemac9925]

As far as I'm aware you are allowed to operate your phone hands free, in a cradle or through the car touchscreen, if it is safe to do so. They always put that rider on the end of what you're allowed to do. The 3 point turn and reverse round a corner went out about 20 years ago, when the Theory Test came in.

[@draconia1336]

I passed my test 1 month before the theory came in, I 1993 😈😈

[@daviemac9925]

@@draconia1336 Blimey is it that long?! I learnt to drive in an Austin 1100!

[@jprsct]

The turn in the road went out in 2017. It was to allow more time for the independant driving part of the test.

[@heatherhoward2513]

I'm in Ozzieland; the one thing that drives me nuts at a roundabout, is the driver in front of me having his /her indicator on for a right turn, when GOING AHEAD. Why??! If you imagine that it's a crossroad instead, which it is, with stuff in the centre, you dont need to put the indicator on.Saw police car put their indicator on, straight ahead, nearly stopped them and asked Why? Aaargh!

[@suziforester]

My friend said her instructor taught her like that....its pathetic. Alot of drivers do it here too.

[@chloedevereaux1801]

this is from the RAC site... Hands-free phone use: the law There are two things to remember here: You cannot hold your phone when behind the wheel, even momentarily (this includes when supervising a learner driver). To use your phone for communication you must have hands-free access. Any hands-free devices should be fully set up before you drive, so you can take calls without handling the device. Any device must not block the view of the road. In an August 2019 report, the Commons Transport Committee put forward their case for banning the use of hands-free kits. They suggested that using the technology carries the same risk of collision as a hand-held phone. The government said there are no plans to introduce a ban. The police still have the power to stop you if they believe you have been distracted by using a mobile phone while driving, even if it’s fully hands-free.

[@johnfh]

Thanks Tony, instructive and entertaining as always. Hope you and your viewers have a great weekend!

[@kcu189]

RE Berk in merc. She is Princess Leia from Star Wars using the force to steer.

[@acmdv]

12:50 They may not be on the same bus route but that doesn't mean that their routes are completely different, they may very well stop in some of the same places as well as use some of the same roads as is evident by them being on the same road in this clip.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

I drove past a woman last week, noticed she was struggling to make a turn at a junction, then when I got level with her I could see why, she had two mobile phones one in each hand, trying to look at both, as well as trying to turn the steering wheel with the back of her hands, how crazy is that.

[@evosticky121]

Loved your comment “now back to the Shiite “ perfect ❤😂

[@ThePhoenix198]

Yes, nice to see such a high degree of self-awareness from a KZbinr 😉

[@petegolding2657]

It IS...called " marry-jue-arna " cos grandad from only fools and horses said so.... 😂

[@MarkBDancer]

9:30 Epsomniacs is how they were known in my family when I lived round there. Feel free to adopt the term, Tony!

[@susanwassall361]

10.43 Taxi to the Kerb please!!

[@CJ0175]

"Hand-held" basically means "not in a cradle". If you've got it on your leg or armrest, hanging round your neck, in your lap, it's still illegal.

[@timsbird1971]

it also says on a mat is ok. Put a mat on your lap and put it on that....

[@noviceangler8084]

Love the views as you go through Carshalton, I grew up there, memory lane moments for me lol.

[@jamessykes8176]

Hi Tony, It's my understanding that if your mobile is in a cradle you are not allowed to 'manipulate' it. In other words you can press a button(or virtual button) to end a call or to switch the phone off but you cannot dial a number or touch it for any other reason. If the police consider using the phone at all, even pressing a button, causes your driving to become, inconsiderate, careless or dangerous then it becomes an offence. Re the female berk in a Merc. perhaps her name is Mother Brown and she has her knees up! Sorry about that, I'll go and have lie down in a darkened room. Keep up your excellent work.

[@itt2055]

Just because you are older doesn't mean you have any intelligence. They have warning labels on packets of peanuts warning people that the packet contains peanuts.

[@konradc12]

Carshalton Pond mini roundabout. I admit I cut that roundabout myself. Guilty as charged! There is a mini roundabout on Arnsberg Way Bexleyheath, and that is impossible not to cut if turning right into Woolwich Road.

[@iamnoone.]

It was a kit car a Lincoln continental mark lll

[@samhenwood5746]

I loved the first clip, with the lesson on roundabouts 👍Thanks The London Director Cam 🚕👍😊

[@MikeWilliams-yp9kl]

Great video. Keep them coming ❤❤

[@markdyson4332]

I have a mini RAB near me which was put in at a former T junction onto a main road. When approaching along main road from one direction drivers need to make a significant effort to go around by steering to the left (as per your first lesson). Not only do most of them go over or even straddle the circular marking, many go as far as to completely cut the corner and drive the wrong side which results in them effectively exiting on the wrong side of the road. No accidents that I am aware of but it can only be a matter of time when the "short cut" turns into the "long goodbye"

[@richardmathews783]

I thought that the hatched areas replaced solid traffic islands because they were a cheaper way of separating traffic. Consequently one should rarely if ever drive on them.

[@ianmason.]

That's true if they have a solid white line around them, before they cheaped out those would have been raised islands. The ones with a dashed white line are used to funnel traffic away from things like a sheltered spot to wait to make a right turn - those are OK to drive over the hatchings if you are going to join the queue turning right (you choice is between holding up traffic or driving on the hatchings so it becomes necessary to drive on the hatchings to give consideration to other traffic).

[@edwardkrarup8816]

That was the car that they used in that film in the 70s I think it was called The Devil car have seen it at a car show

[@simonmcglary]

Audi at 10:43 wasn’t parked, that was abandoned!

[@DevilsHand07]

You’re right they got rid of the turn in the road, a decision I don’t agree with but I still teach it on lessons anyway. They have replaced it with a favorite of yours, parking on the RIGHT hand side of the road then reversing on that side😂

[@pooweetiger1]

i like the roundabout lesson👍love the normal shite👍

[@DavidLewis555]

My instructor told me why motorway driving is part of the lessons and why turn in road/reverse round corner are not. Under 25's dont die doing turn in road....

[@michaelperry4308]

7:37, how the hell can she see over that phone? You cannot use a sat nav while moving, they update them not to work , so why can you use a phone in a cradle?

[@theredstoner0723]

Hi, I think the a229 plus is the better camera, noticed the change after the first few clips.

[@Steve_7867]

6:18, learner in an Audi LOL.

[@geoffuk8356]

Just to confirm driving on hatched areas is only allowed if the line surrounding the hatching is broken, if it is a solid line then under no circumstances can you drive in them.

[@timweather3847]

8:10 Berk in the merc reminds me of my wife telling me she was on a bus in Aberdeen about 15 years ago and the woman driver was using her ample ‘chest’ to keep the wheel steady while she was doing something else with her hands. My wife complained to the bus company, who said the driver would be spoken to.

[@ibs5080]

12:56 Re "So on that bombshell". That's exactly what Jeremy Clarkson used to say at the end of every episode of Top Gear. Was your example a reference to that?

[@alangascoyne6285]

Yellow sticker of death excellent must be to many local professional drivers

[@shm5547]

That first roundabout, the arrows are NOT "left turn only" or "ahead only", those markings are a quite specific legal requirement and will have additional text on the road and usually a blue circle arrow sign too. Directional arrows like this are merely advisory.

[@suziforester]

Its common sense, LEFT, AHEAD, RIGHT. So do it

[@shm5547]

@@suziforester lane 3 can be used for ahead or right. All the highway code says is choose the most appropriate lane. I agree that left, ahead, right makes common sense, but it's also common sense to anticipate not all drivers will make this choice.

[@jacobtyler1145]

From what I understand in regards to phone in cradle. Well I am sure not 100% though you can only use it if for such things as satnav.

[@PeteSQ]

7:49. woman touching her phone in a cradle. So that must be the get out clause for all the people who drive the ridiculously dangerous cars where most of the controls are operated via touch screens. I have no idea how any government didn't spot this dangerous trend. They banned phone use, but didn't ban the equivalent in car systems.

[@caolkyle]

5:45 thought that's what your Kia invisible looks like from the other side lol

[@bromptinowner763]

Never ending content of these fine motorists !!

[@itsAlzatron]

1:15 that off center numberplate is mildly infuriating

[@Perseus7567]

yep. always hate those Range Rovers purely because of that back. I don't know who designed it, but they should never design a car ever again.

[@Polysixchick]

they don't teach engine breaking anymore ether on the driving test

[@ytr8989]

Drivers in the UK are being fined 50 pounds for driving through the roundabout instead of around it.

[@vinniem8996]

I think the clue is in the name Tony. Its called a ROUNDABOUT, not a straight across lol

[@roppa789]

3.20 … good defensive driving Tony. It sticks in your craw though. Chill.

[@grahamnutt8958]

Roundabouts with Tony can easily become a monthly or fortnighly theme on here but I guarantee that many idiots still won't understand them! ⛽head moment reminds me of 1977🎥 The Car with a '71 modified Lincoln Continental mk III as the "protagonist". Nice Jag E-type spotted 2-3 minutes later. Yeh...... some words have to remain unsaid *tw@* lmfao.

[@DarlingtonBadDrivers]

The car from the horror film!

[@richardh1764]

Follow the road markings, that great if the road isn't full of cars. Where I live some of the roundabouts don't follow the norm.

[@Mooheda]

11:00 Adams Family out and about :)

[@Jamienomore]

I'd say the Best Drivers drive a Citroen Ami. I have never seen any bad Videos about them. Mind you it has a Max Speed of 28mph.🧸🚙

[@noahburns6042]

I love Cycling Mikey!

[@myoldmate]

Hmm!

[@mohammedpervez]

Let's get on with normal sh3te 😅

[@aliasdeputydog]

11:05. That was a 1971 Lincoln Continental Mk3 coupe that has been modified to look like one used in a 1977 film starring James Brolin.

[@andreashaynes3346]

Many thanks for another great share, Tony. Your CRYSTAL BALL had to work overtime!!! Bless you 👍👍👍

[@raynordefoubert9753]

@8:10 ish Berk in a Merc driver is a special one...allowed to drive with her knees

[@michaelgodbold6247]

Shock horror.a BMW actually signalling what ever next

[@TheKnightsShield]

An Audi doing the same thing?

[@michellesimpson4364]

Do driving instructors teach learners how to do a turn in the road? Cos mine didn’t teach me.

[@Metabrowser]

You can't text (read or type) while driving. You should not have your phone on a cradle unless it's for GPS. The cradles should not be stuck on the windshield, or set up in front of it. The cellphone companies should have the phones to automatically deactivate if the GPS senses that you're walking or driving, and stay deactivated for 10 minutes after you've stopped moving, in case you were tempted to text on a red light. If you need your GPS while moving, set it up before starting to move. With these setting, we would save a lot of damage, wounds and lives.

[@Manu-Official]

First! :edit: Not always an Audi - yesterday I had a BMW driver parked sideways on the road while she was on the phone having a right laugh.

[@beverlyhenderson188]

Tony you said something about people using "common sense". Not sure people know what that is when driving. Some do.

[@suziforester]

Bugger...you beat me today❤

[@beverlyhenderson188]

Sorry

[@Hieronymous69]

Erm, if you should take a roundabout wide when going straight on, does that not also apply to the Epsom rondabout?

[@thelondondashcam]

Different roundabout different layout.

[@PatKennedydon]

At 8.26 I have to say that's a fast hotel.

[@WhiskeyGulf71]

11:33 you are 100% right here, I knew a lady that lived just around the corner from here & every time I visited her at her home there was always the stench of weed in the air, a bit like if you walk through Redhill town centre, you go in sober at one end & come out stoned at the other.

[@leme3503]

7:40 Interesting point you bring up here which reminds me of yesterdays(? I think) video. Where you commented on cyclists being allowed to use their phone, technically. They too can still 'be done' for reckless driving/without due care & attention.

[@leme3503]

on said topic of bicyclists, let's also remind us of the fact that - whilst I don't condone any stupid behaviour by cyclists - they are JUST cyclists. They can mostly harm themselves. Compared to the 2 tonne metal machines we drive around all willy-nilly... Giving you UK stats, there were 91 deaths & 4056 seriously injured by bicyclists (correction, that's actually bicyclists that died themselves, so the real number is even less). Whilst cars on the other hand... 1766 deaths & nearly 29000 seriously injured. Speaking generally, 99% of deaths are caused by a motorized vehicle. Again, not condoning any stupidity from anyone, but where should our focus really be? I see many UK car drivers complaining about cyclists. And whilst it IS a problem, they're insanely less likely to cause harm. So I wouldn't waste TOO much energy on it. Some though, of course. Idiots are still idiots...

[@scienceexperimentsforhomee261]

​@leme3503 that's exactly my view and LDC really does get his knickers in a regular twist over cyclists. There is an allowance in some countries for cyclists to go through red lights under certain circumstances and you will often see that a cyclists will stop whilst traffic is moving but when stopped they then go through even though lights are red. This is a very low risk situation. Compare that to LDC who sets off from traffic lights when pedestrians are in front of him and who are going to be in front is far more dangerous and is simply reckless driving. And this is pointed out to LDC by quite a few other contributors.

[@suziforester]

Ha ha ha ha..Mr Positive😂

[@evosticky121]

Oh and that roundabout everyone goes over….put a 7” kerb around it. Hi ho ❤

[@HopeYukizmizu]

You dont learn to drive from instructors you learn only enough to blag it through the test

[@wonkdonk3844]

1st clip.. its a left, straight on and right turn for somebody🤣🤣

[@TheWeepingDalek]

Send these people to Milton Keynes to learn your roundabouts

[@maverickhistorian6488]

Milton Keynes features in a nightmare that I have, I'm trapped within the town having to negotiate.infinite roundabouts, for eternity. 😁

[@oldman1734]

You must have seen me. I have three arms and four legs.

[@petercoffin-mu9sz]

1. Common sense, ha ha , 2 Buses have radios, 3 Audi was not parked, that's been dumped. and 4 maybe its you that attracts all these idiots. Apart from that, thx Tony.

[@theridiculousnicolaus]

What camera do you use?

[@pgti6]

11.00 mins. It's called a 1/4 acre of bad taste.

[@michaelneale7813]

10 43 Audi driver parking must have had Drunk

[@leme3503]

9:20 Why even 2 sets of lights? Just put a pedestrian crossing at the junction? This seems utterly useless and unnecessary.. Fkn UK road design strikes again.

[@kevinsparham5922]

Black car, Lincoln continental mk 3 from the car movie

[@fatsmandela]

11:10 Lincoln continental

[@kevinweatheritt]

You cant touch your phone while in control of a vehicle.

[@Manu-Official]

From the government website: Using devices hands-free You can use devices with hands-free access, as long as you do not hold them at any time during usage. Hands-free access means using, for example: a Bluetooth headset voice command a dashboard holder or mat a windscreen mount a built-in sat nav The device must not block your view of the road and traffic ahead.

[@thedroneguy2024]

4:12 When you start your day with breakfast in bed. Or are you up and at it with a Danish instead One focaccia coming at ya Or just white sliced bread... there's an Ocado just for you When your friday needs the freshest fish and your drivers driving quality is just like piss want a three point turn with an unusual twist there's an ocado just for you.!

[@evosticky121]

Adams family weekend car🙃

[@robblack533]

not allowed to touch your phone, end of.

[@neuralwarp]

If there's no lane markings there's no lanes.

[@thelondondashcam]

That doesn't mean you can go zigzagging all over the place without indicating.

[@laurakinsella2260]

Im learning to drive here in South Australia and i can park better than that audi. lol

[@keithallen9333]

I understand the frustration 😂

[@r390gt1lm]

haha I used to drive one of these for a living 4:10

[@WiseOldBill]

Speak for yourself, I teach my students turn in the road it's a good way to introduce reversing and steering together before moving onto more complicated manoeuvre's.

[@Uk-Writer]

The painted roundabouts on the road are painted so you can go over them as the highways accept that not all vehicles can make a clean going around due to the tightness of the turn, they are put there as muppets with yellow badge of death never give way……

[@davidshowto]

@BlackBeltBarrister covered mobile phone usage in cradles in his video kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHbUlGawqtWfhZY where his general guidance was that you are allowed to use devices so long as they are in cradles as the offence is using them whilst they are held in the hand. He did caveat the advice by saying to use them as sparingly as possible and that it would still be possible to be found to be not paying due care and attention if your use of the device contributed to some accident, etc..

[@thelondondashcam]

I'm pretty sure that's where I got it from, I subscribe to him because he does quite a lot of driving law. 👍

[@TheWeepingDalek]

Recent law change does make it illegal to even touch the phone while driving

[@xusiaxod6255]

4:21 - that statement is NOT correct. Driving instructors SHOULD still teach turn in the road and reversing around corners. They are supposed to teach you how to drive, NOT just how to pass the test. However, some instructors drive BMW's so you know how that's gonna go don't you.

[@thelondondashcam]

i Watch a lot of driving instructors on KZbin and I've got to say some are absolutely shocking they video themselves sitting in the car with their student next to them and their student isn't even holding the steering wheel properly and they don't even say anything to them, and that's just basic stuff. I watch a lot of Ashley Neal's videos and he is good very good I highly recommend him because you can see that he is teaching driving not just teaching someone to pass a driving test, he teaches exactly the same way that I was taught so many years ago.

[@xusiaxod6255]

@@thelondondashcam Well Ashley Neal is a little up his own ass and he did own a BMW and a Tossler, sorry, Tesla so that might tell you something. These days holding the steering wheel correctly, i assume you mean 10 to two etc isn't a thing. As long as you can control the car and it goes where you require it to it's not an issue. I guess you cross you hands occasionally?

[@scienceexperimentsforhomee261]

​@@xusiaxod6255if you are going to slate Ashley, I really think you need to give a lot more substance than just say "up his own arse". Where is he, how is he, why is he 'up his own arse'. His hand position was something that did grate with me but he recently did a very good video concentrating solely on that topic. Remember that the advice to adopt a ten to two position came in way before cars had power steering and it was vital to maintain two hands in that position to be able to maneuver properly. It is not so vital with power steering.

[@suziforester]

Ha ha ha ha...Mr Interesting 😂

[@xusiaxod6255]

@@scienceexperimentsforhomee261 Maybe my comment was a little harsh but in my opinion he's just very smug and smarmy, that's all. And you clarified nicely about the steering.