Badlands Hungry Dupes 22 : A little more power generation : Oxygen Not included

[@PicaMula]

8:30 Maybe he IS the lump of refined carbon xD

[@TheGalifrey]

The dupe that died went outside while the doors were open (climbed on those tiles below the doors) and was collecting materials. The doors closed trapping him and you didn't see it happen. That is why I run the most annoying mod on the planet, claustrophobia.

[@HappyGingerWolf]

Yeah, that was the conclusion I came to too, you might wanna lower your ladders a tile if possible

[@kelciheit]

Not to mention that the dupes clothes was so hot, it turned into refined carbon... It makes you question the elaborate lengths these guys take to kill themselves...

[@Sheldezare]

@@kelciheit I swear the devs intentionally code their behaviour to choose the side that creates a room for the dupes to work from. Take your eyes off them for 5 seconds and you suddenly have 10 dupes suffocating because they all decided to move to the less convenient side to build just so they can achieve death.

[@kelciheit]

UnDeadPuff not to mention them walking into literal magma chamber just to put some abysalite into storage even though you have your liquid lock blocked by a locked door. Sometimes I question if the game will ever be playable past cycle ~6000 without large scale errors occurring

[@Sheldezare]

@@kelciheit TBh cycle 2000 and past are quite a lot of playtime. Not many games keep a save going for so many hours without hitches and with complexity. -- my dupes like to go into the lava to clean up even if there's cleanup orders in other parts of the map.

[@2000Meilen]

8:00 I had the same phenomenon occur in my base about a week ago. I saw the "Made a mess" message and found one of my Dupes standing ontop of an open Bunker Door. He couldn't pathfind down so I had to install ladders to get him off the door. Edit: Now that i think about it, my Dupe might have used freshly fallen Regolith to climb up and couldn't get back down once the autominers did their job.

[@artur6912]

Most likely explanation. I have seen that exact thing happen in front of me more than one time and I use Francis design for regolith destruction for solars

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

Thank you so much for this Francis very helpful on the map I'm on right now.. I've vacuumed and cleaned the entire bottom magma biome clean.. gave me free energy for about 600 cycles (gonna start playing the game like that from here on out).. have modded about 5 volcanoes that will dump magma for just 15 turbines. This setup and the mistake you caught at 27:35 is immensely helpful.

[@diggymgee]

With these huge refinement projects you have going, i wonder what an industrial kiln would look like? using a regular kiln seems like a waste of coal....

[@coconutcute712]

Unfortunately, no matter how little mass you use, attempting to use actual heat to transform clay and coal will ALWAYS create a natural tile. And mining a natural tile destroys half the mass, so spending some extra coal is way better than losing half your ceramic and refined carbon.

[@raptor0286]

this regolith melter is by far the best design (efficient) i have seen so far well done

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Thanks. Was aiming for compact and working, but the magma blade heat exchange at the end really put it over the top. I designed it originally without that feature so in theory you should be able to remove a bunch of the heat exchange tiles and rails and have it still work while being even smaller, though slightly less magma efficient.

[@esaedromicroflora1247]

you have a unique organically elegant way of building contraptions and infrastructures, always amazes me

[@LumunGames]

That’s crazy! I’m not brave enough to try a build like this but I sure love watching what you come up with it

[@FrancisJohnYT]

You can give it a shot, the save game file is always there to have a look about. Maybe use diamond tiles instead of steel to be sane. Allow yourself plenty of time and you can make just about anything you put your mind to.

[@NotASpyReally]

At the exact time I moved my mouse to see how much video was left, your game crashed. For a moment I thought I caused it XD

[@FrancisJohnYT]

The timing of the crash was almost prefect :) My best stupid technology moment was looking at a wall map in someone's house, an honest to goodness paper poster map of the world. I was looking at a tiny island and I tried to use my fingers to pinch expand the view! What has google maps done to my brain.

[@NotASpyReally]

@@FrancisJohnYT LOL my mom does that with our physical photos XD

[@tejing2001]

The way you use that magma blade for the last stage of the heat exchanger is a really excellent idea. That must put the magma efficiency through the roof. You could probably even manage the necessary heat input with a glass forge that you have a dupe run occasionally.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I was thinking about that but never got into the testing of it, I have seen it run for cycles without needing any heat injection at all. Might be an interesting side project to give a try sometime.

[@k.tassis4632]

Damn you Francis, I just had finished my first regolith melter and I was basking in the glory of 17 maxed out steam turbines... If you want to make your industrial brick less fiddly rip out the ethanol distilleries and put wood burners. Getting rid of the wood, producing some power and feeding the slicksters too and no fiddly ethanol evaporating.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

17! did you forget to use the petroleum layer to prevent the heat deletion bug? I would love to rip out the ethanol but I need the polluted dirt to feed the crabs so I can get the lime to make the silly amounts of steel.

[@k.tassis4632]

@@FrancisJohnYT I forgot about the little buggers! It seems you find yourself stuck with ethanol... I have petroleum but I installed only 17 turbines. However using a hydrogen loop passing through the heat element, attached to a gas pipe thermo sensor I can reliably now start stop the system on demand so I can pretend that I don't waste power...

[@esaedromicroflora1247]

about the dupe that died, also happened to me that one was mysteriously able to "teleport" above a bunker door in the no-build area - luckily I noticed the "idle" warning before it was too late

[@EstevoCarioca]

Man... English isn't my first language, but after listening you speaking so fast and I was able to understand what you were saying I guess english is my first language now ^^ Nice video, tho.

[@alexnoman1498]

I have learned so much from games commentary as well! Not recently, I've been doing this for 12 years now, but it really helps to listen to a native speaker for many hours. Also try to pronounce interesting words and phrases right after you hear them, it's a very important part of becoming comfortable with speaking English freely and confidently.

[@EstevoCarioca]

@@alexnoman1498 english isn't a problem to me, I'm able to watch series in Netflix and tv programs without subtitle. But he speaks really fast even in comparison with others KZbinrs.

[@engrammi]

I've experienced this scenario many times but fortunately none of them were while afk. Falling regolith can and will teleport them above bunker tiles. That's why always have a few spots with ladders under any area with bunker doors allowing them to climb back down.

[@bmoretti89]

I have had this problem with the dupes before what happened is your dupe jumped from ladder to bunker tile on top of an opened bunker door which they can walk on. Probably to get something but happened while a rocket was landing/taking off. The doors closed while they were up there. I have started to place my ladder system exactly 4 tiles below bunker doors to avoid dupes deciding to take their last space walk.

[@rickwood4624]

this was epic good sir, thank you very much.

[@MarcCastellsBallesta]

The ending of the episode was totally unexpected!

[@AussieAwesome]

If you thing about it, since the regolith is melting into magma, then flashing into insignias rock, that means that the rock is especially a jell when it’s fresh out of the melter.

[@0x0404]

Looks like there are some steam pressure optimizations I don't have. I wasn't getting near as many steam gens running full power. Which seems pretty paradoxical since it is still reducing the regolith heat. [edit] Sounds like you explain it at around 10:40. Heat loss when putting the water back in.

[@yusakkiller2534]

rest in peace dupe, may you happiness somewhere out there

[@thatguy9419]

AH yes... Temp-Shift plates... i underestimated their usefulness for so long. Now they have become my best friends.

[@suxkar1]

You should always make viscogel airlocks one tile above the pavement, so you are protected from small, random spills! That vertical vacuum section is so fragile it upsets me ahah

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I keep them flush with the ground for speed reasons but considering the difficulty in fixing vacuum that might be a better idea.

[@chaowang9312]

2020.03 coronavirus outbreak 2020.04 global quarantine 2020.05 a dupe died in FJ's colony What a year.

[@Technovazz]

That is so cool. Love it.

[@Mandersen700]

I think the Dupe went up into space to pick up something when the rocket launched or landed. Bambadjam climb from the ladder to bunker tile than on top of the bunkers doors.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

What did they want to pick up that was on top of the bunker door is what I want to know?

[@FerrybigGaming]

At the top, remove the ladders just left or right from the bunker tiles, that way they cannot jump to the top, even if the doors are open

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'm going to consider that loss natural selection at work, though at some point I think I'll have to get the body back.

[@pronkel]

as always thanks for the video :)

[@FrancisJohnYT]

as always thanks for the thanks :)

[@7771dnight]

@8:30 i spit out the jack daniels and died laughing at this.... ive seen that snazy suit glitch before LOL

[@mreboric8406]

He claimed on the bunker tile to get up when the door was open then the door closed trapping him. The refined carbon is most likely the result of him carrying coal up there and ot getting turned into a refined natural block due to temp or even the clothes he had on. Sometimes they bug out and become refined blocks.

[@puppyboy2]

at 1:51 on this video, it appears there is a break in the neutronium that boarders the right hand side of the map. On the same level as the 4 lockers. I've never seen that before, is it real? What happens if you dig it out, will the game let you wrap to the other side?

[@markusflorian2068]

I have a Gold Vulcano really close to space and was thinking of adapting this system to use molten Gold instead of Magma to trigger this reaction? I know the specific heat capacity is 0.129 instead of 1 from Magma so I would need a lot more initial mass of molten gold to make it work, also golden vulcanos provide way less material as vulcanos. But as the gold comes out with 2600° i think after the initial heating of the regolith, as its just a small few C° to increase the vulcano could provide enough sustainable heat to keep that reaction going? Do you think that could work out? Im trying to fiddle with the sandbox to try it out but damn, that is cumbersome :D

[@Saturas35142]

are you going to make biofuel out of that dupe? wait... wrong game :D

[@AKUJIVALDO]

What game it is?

[@Saturas35142]

@@AKUJIVALDO RimWorld

[@CptJohn]

Not sure if you figured it out yet but refined carbon getting unloaded from rockets turn into natural tiles sometimes when getting too hot. They will when form that tile high up and teleport dupes above them up as well. Since you had everything at the very top, the dupe ended up entombed in it. I noticed it with rails through bunker tiles and switched them to insulated tiles. Might be a fix.

[@NatePrawdzik]

We're going off the rails, on the regolith train.

[@inybisinsulate]

Destructable POI props wouldn't even enable for me it insta-crashes...

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It has a weird bug at the moment, I had to download another mod that allows you to force update mods and that fixed it.

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

How do you calculate the number of turbines needed? I created a 2 volcano power plant and can't tell if I need 3 or 6 steam turbines, so I made the steam box long enough for 6. This map has 9 volcanoes, so it would be nice to know how many turbines to use in the future

[@emilterman6924]

I think he did a bit of testing in background

[@TonyB02]

If you get the average output of the volcanoes and plug those numbers into the ONI calculator you can figure out how many you need, on average

[@matteocdt5214]

so by melting regolith you create more heat, and then turn a potential nuisance into free power. cool really cool

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I really love how the developers have allowed stuff like this, the game is really a sandbox for silly creations.

[@HappyGingerWolf]

What's happening with the leftover igneous rock? Just dumped in a vaccum, or is it cold enough to be useful for something?

[@daszveroboy]

You can let it pile up in a vacuum or ranch stone hatches in a vacuum with it. Both will slow down your game. If you let it pile up, you end up with ever increasing amount of igneous rock. If you ranch hatches, you will need 85 to consume 20 kg/s. I'll leave it in vacuum, should be less calculations for my poor cpu

[@CalebK64]

If a dupe builds a tile where their head is, they used to entomb themselves in that tile. As of a few updates ago, they just teleport above the tile once it's built. The dead dupe probably built that bunker tile, and teleported above the bunker door.

[@LeksGaming]

possible, but not what happend here, those were rocket silo bunker doors built a long time ago

[@mikeysheep5380]

@@LeksGaming Maybe the doors were closed with the dupe in them?

[@annoyannoy]

I wanted to make the same tunnel yesterday, i want magma going down to try to make a volcano sour gas boiler, left the game running while i was making food, and then returned to 3 dead dupes :(

[@beepboopKP]

It's bothering me...there's is some material in the bottom left of the melter ☹ how dare it dirty that beautiful machine. Haven't finished the episode yet. Hoping you find it

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Pretty sure I clean the whole thing up before I seal it up, I avoid debris in my builds if I can :)

[@beepboopKP]

@@FrancisJohnYT it is entirely possible that I am seeing things haha 🤣

[@peter-klausnikolaus4823]

Ist the bug that messes with heat exchange on conveyor rails now fixed?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

What bug? I know that the heat exchange on rails was greatly increased but I though that was intentional and was still the case.

[@Genesis8934]

Hmm, you could probably move the desalinater into the regolith/igneous coolers so you don't have to shimmy the regolith through the other one :p

[@danielmcgillis270]

I had a dupe teleport into a void I had not opened. Not only has the game made the dupes do stupid stuff to get themselves killed, now it teleports them into places to get them killed.

[@AdamRotering]

I miss having more episodes. But I like the feel of each episode more. Less rushed.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It's feels good to have time to get entire projects finished in one episode. I have caught up enough that I might even have time for some comments now :)

[@karpa.183]

this game needs a way to make use of large amounts of power

[@xx-qs1ij]

can u suggest some more interesting ways to play ? i started different maps and it seems as they pose no challenge

[@Delt4_Cr4wfish]

Will someone please combine this with a salt reactor and phosphorus refiner.

[@ChloyeFeraythArel]

Wouldnt a few temp plates on the bottom of the railbox touching the magma blade help cool the magma down?

[@tetrikitty1686]

The magma blade is in vacuum, so tempshift plates wouldn't have any effect other than adding thermal mass. It might even make the heat exchanger worse, since it would conduct heat from one side to another and having a temperature gradient is important for heat exchangers.

[@ChloyeFeraythArel]

@@tetrikitty1686 But the rail the magma and the temp plate would be occupying the same tile, would that still need gas medium for heat transfer?

[@tetrikitty1686]

@@ChloyeFeraythArel I probably phrased that wrong. What I meant is that tempshift plate interacts with the solid/liquid/gas in tiles, so it will exchange heat with the magma but not with the rail. They're meant more for moving heat between tiles than within the same tile.

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

Cant i just dump water into magma directly?

[@AussieAwesome]

8:20 Bugs bugs bugs. Gotta love those bugs.

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

My friend.. much respect. Any chance you can let us know the details of your PC? EDIT last thing.. it's cumbersome but I find it best to drive pipe from each turbine down under itself.. it spreads out the "cooling" evenly and you don't have one turbine suffering that imbalance. 33:00 Great way to show people that are completely new to this game.. maybe you should do a small summary at the end of certain ONI videos. Some are self explanatory but things like this omg..

[@yaemz123]

Go to his About section for the channel. He puts his PC's specs there since people ask so often.

[@victorcaldera249]

I remember when you had to be careful where you throw your energy

[@MugoanE]

Are those super coolants at the bottom of steam turbines?

[@Trilla2517]

that teleporting bug got me so many times on my current play through and it was always poor camila

[@Yabastara]

Does your game lag when saving?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Yep, takes a good 15 seconds to save the game, though I have it set to only save every 10 cycles.

[@MisterZealot]

What an ending. XD

[@sivachalapathiks]

He climbed the bunker tile from the ladder when the bunker door is open for rocket. Happened to me recently. Not some glitch..... remove the bunker tile below the door

[@FrancisJohnYT]

The odds just seem so unlikely, what is on top of bunker doors they would want? I have lots of Iron, Copper, Gold and regolith everywhere.

[@zaclittlejohn2701]

If a dupe can do something in the least efficient way possible, I'm pretty sure they are contractually obliged to do so. I they can get to gold at the top of the map instead of the perfectly fine volcano they eventually will.

[@der_schweizer_244]

well i havent seen a dead dup in all of francis vids...... i lose one or two per run......

[@justinorlesky7567]

my error screen says. "Oops, a black hole ate this planetoid!" and im on oni spaced out, fast friends, no mods

[@justinorlesky7567]

i only found this channel recently, and my pc is potato.

[@primalflower7253]

have you ever done pufts?

[@mickles1975]

At least you get a proper crash. My latest save just hangs. :(

[@Johrdan360]

i think you might have corrupt game files or mods files, or a mod conflict due to the constante crash

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I tried reinstalling the game and I'm still getting crashes. I think I'll do a full system reinstall after the end of this series.

[@Iceman-kr6df]

I’d love to see a regolith melter used for something other than just making steam, maybe use it to boil some crude into petroleum or sour gas just to be absolutely extreme

[@Tamizushi]

Did you know that 20kg/s of igneous rock is enough to feed 85 stone hatches?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I had not bother to do the math but now you have me worried. I need to run 85 hatches or I'm going to end up swimming in Igneous rock and slowing down the game. That's a lot of critters, which will slow down the game. Not seeing a lot of options here.

[@Tamizushi]

​@@FrancisJohnYT Can't you just send the igneous rocks to the ranches you already have, add 4 more hatch ranches on top, and then remplace 4 slickster ranches with skimmers to compensate?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

@@Tamizushi Would not like to dump 200C rock into my core base, no one is wearing suits in there. I would put the ranches in the vacuum area to be safe. I would also consider just dumping the ethanol into space. We don't need the power any more or the slicksters. Just the P dirt for the crabs.

[@Tamizushi]

@@FrancisJohnYT Sounds like a decent restructuring job, but at least your food production will be 100% sustainable.

[@Tamizushi]

@@FrancisJohnYT Hi. I know it's too late for new ideas because you already moved to a new series but I just wanted to share a new idea I had for that problem. Basically, if my math is correct, the heat absorbed from killing the babies of 85 adult hatches is enough to cool 20kg/s of igneous rock by about 80 celsius. So my idea would be to pass the regolith through another row of steam turbines so that it's temperature falls down somewhere between 125 and 150 celcius, and then transfer its remaining heat to an ethanol evolution chamber. The boiling point of ethanol is 78 celcius and hatches die at 70 celcius, meaning they will always either die from the heat or from drowning. The igneous rock should get cooled down to around 80 celcius in the process which is much more manageable than 200 celcius. At least, that's the theory.

[@xxffdsfa334]

"redundant safety" is never a bad idea... sometimes "double redundant" is actually wished, f.e. atomic power plants.

[@rachelchen9764]

I think my laptop just has enough frames left to put in a regolith melter with your design 😂 but with rocket exhaust

[@ChloyeFeraythArel]

I think the dupe *is* the lump of refined carbon :P

[@AnInnocentChannel]

Yay!

[@chrisrodriguez2275]

New Achievement.. fill the map with magma?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

At 20kg/s it's possible, though you might be better off getting a volcanic active map and uncapping all the volcanoes.

[@dannyunixanalyst9018]

Bambajaaaan... Nuuuuuuuuuuuuu... Ooo Ooo... can the replacement dupe be called Fake Eleanor?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It's either Fake Eleanor or bad Janet.

[@GamingToastVarietyChannel]

Daym

[@frogdan]

Stop breaking the laws of thermodynamics

[@kelciheit]

Mr Hat In ONI? Impossible

[@Neyar]

You mentioned your regolith melter is 12 tiles at the bottom, but magma blades max out at 11 I think (I'd have to re-watch your petroleum boiler tutorial). You might not be getting as much transfer from that radiant pipe as you want.

[@Blufall]

I think the deceased dupe climbed up on a bunker tile while the bunker doors were just about to close for a meteor shower which then trapped him and left him to die.

[@emilterman6924]

nc ending :))))

[@der_schweizer_244]

no views no likes no comments... made it again! yessss first in everything

[@AnInnocentChannel]

Yay!

[@ChloyeFeraythArel]

Also would love to see next ONI/Rimworld series with dupes/pawns named after 'the simpsons' characters :D

[@dominicksolerix2703]

Am I the only one that finds this ridiculous build rather ridiculous? I suppose I'm just jealous that I will never be capable of such things.

[@Troller1991]

It's so powerful it crashed the game

[@karanveer580]

Try Star Citizen please

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'v seen a lot of controversy surrounding the game I was going to hold out until they release it.