DT 700 / 900 PRO X: Everything You Need to Know

[@Psyopcyclops]

The words that audiophiles use to describe sound always confuses me lol. “The 1408’s sound much more chocolatey on the highs, but they’re still a little salty. But in the mids is where you get the real meat. We’re talking beef, venison. No chicken. Lows are fantastic, just as on the other 14 series. Very deep, dark, and hit you like a Mack truck.”

[@Jisooee]

It's kind of funny how he describes it. But Joshua Valour is better at explaining things, but still so confusing. To be honest, professional audiophiles talk like they're just talking to other professional audiophiles. And all of those newcomers for this, they'll be confused what these KZbinrs audiophiles are saying HAHAHA.

[@88Opportunist]

That's why I like Zeos. Many consider him a rambly moron but somehere in his reviews there's always something useful for me to take away from them. Joshua Valour and DMS and others may objectively be better but I find Zeos' reviews more useful.

[@justnvc]

lmao

[@JTB--]

I prefer my Headphone mids to give me a little Chicken flavor... but like Chicken without the Skin because it's healthier! Now that's a tasty HP Sound Signature!!

[@TheHalfmanofOz]

That's because it's largely subjective so they create their own vocab to make their personal impressions sound more objective / scientific.

[@talren]

The 900X seems too good to be true : 45 ohm, open design, removable cable, sick design... That 4K edit was smoooooooooooooth and I really liked your attention to lightning in the edit. Excellent job ! EDIT: I must add I truly appreciated the way you tried different approach to compare both headphones between them, with their higher versions and with the competitors. It brings so many answers.

[@shoobror8291]

It kinda sucks for normal music listening. Very flat, and the highs are unbearable at high volumes. Dunno why he recommended these to normal people, it's designed for pro work, not for music listening. Could work for gaming, but any headphones work for gaming tbh. Just get cheaper ones.

[@PerfectionsDh]

are the Dt 770’s good for gaming and music listening? Could you also hear footsteps clearly and bomb explosions. (80 ohm version) would i need an amp for it or no. Plugged into my laptop.

[@NeonPizza80s]

@@shoobror8291 The trick is to increase the bass with EQ Settings and use you're DAC's high gain. Just make sure the volume dial isn't cranked or you'll blow your ears out. :P

[@NeonPizza80s]

@@paradoxic1888 I'm actually getting rid of my 900 Pro X's and upgrading to the 1990's, simply because the 900's(and 700's) suffer from a veil-like filtered effect that's masking the clarity or audio. This isn't the case with the DT770(250) and 1990's. they sound crystal clear. Sure, the 900's may offer a bit more soundstage, and are a little more open, spacious, warmer and a tinge fuller since they are technically semi-open back Vs closed, but it all becomes irrelevant to me because of that slight clarity masking veil-effect. Maybe there's a way to improve this with EQ settings? Ultimately, i think it's a toss up between the 770(250) & 900's. With the 1990's, they're even more open than the 900's, but with that crystal clear sound, stronger vocals and then some vs the DT770's. I'll take 8k treble spike. Balance pads plus proper EQ settings should mitigate the effect at least

[@dariomladenovski7047]

@@shoobror8291 yeah you probably didn't buy them and only read reviews, I got them and they are excellent for music listening, the best headphones I've ever head and they are also built like a tank with premium materials, for 250$ I think they are a steal, these should easily cost 500$+,

[@kasper_429]

8:38 As a GoT nerd, I genuinely LOL'd. Great video as always Brian!

[@badseedtech]

That makes it all worthwhile fr

[@ploxplox1109]

@@badseedtech I play a lot of csgo and my house not that quite either so would you recommend dt 700 pro x for hearing foot steps and or would you say hearing foots steps would be better on 990 pro x ? What would you recommend

[@ploxplox1109]

@@badseedtech pretty much would you say 700 pro x for hearing foot steps would be better or dt 770 pro or dt 900 pro x or dt 990 pro

[@ploxplox1109]

@@badseedtech do you by any chance have the dimensions of the ear pads kind of looking to replace the ear pads on dt 900 pro x they are very comfortable but they get really hot lol any suggestions?

[@CaptnKrksNippls]

Excellent review man I'm glad a somewhat bigger channel like yours actually has some understanding of the audio hobby and goes into more depth than others who just say "sound is pretty good to me".

[@badseedtech]

Its because Josh Valour and DMS would roast me endlessly if I did that lol

[@TBD3.0]

@@badseedtech lol hilarious they keep you on your toes and make you better

[@ELJefeReviews]

Watched this while wearing my 900 Pro X. Completely agree. I wasn't expecting them to be as versatile as they are. Just for fun, try them out with the iFi ZenDac with XBass activated if you haven't already. Blew me away!

[@JeradBenge]

XBass: When you like it thicc

[@ELJefeReviews]

@@JeradBenge My man!😎

[@NOOBEYTUBEY]

Hey, what is xbass?

[@ELJefeReviews]

@@NOOBEYTUBEY It's a setting on the iFi Zen DAC that provides improved bass response along with a warmer overall sound.

[@badseedtech]

I'm definitely about to lol. Isn't it weird how on some tracks they don't really thump, then you load up a different track and the 808s go crazy? Thought I was losing my mind doing the comparisons. Kept having to check what headphone I was actually wearing lmao

[@HonkeyKongLive]

Oh this is one I've been waiting on. I've had a few Beyers over the years and was looking at the 700 to complement my Grado.

[@Sandaasu]

Thanks for covering these. It is looking more and more likely that I'll finally be upgrading my old 770 Pro 80. I'm still holding out for more opinions, but that 700 is really looking promising for a better closed back that won't make me shy away due to the price. Props for the TYGR mention too!

[@Azarin_YG]

Did you buy the 700 ? If so do you like them ?

[@SpedeFace]

I've had the tygr 300r for almost a year now and can say that it's the jack of all trades of headphones. Easy to use, doesn't need any eq. I would recommend these because they perform well enough in everything and zero discomfort even after 10+ hours of having them on your head. 150€ for these is a steal.

[@sanane66543]

fr i have 2 now planning to buy a backup 3rd one lol

[@filbgyibcfyjechik3612]

are they good for fps games ?

[@Doenstop]

Yeah they are, but which budget do you have? Bass is a bit lacking. That's why ill probably get the DT770 80 Ohm as well I think@@filbgyibcfyjechik3612

[@NorthernLaw_]

It's very hard being a gamer and also of course like everyone else, listening to music, watching movies, whatever the case may be. Being one of these people who is tired of "gaming headphones" that are terrible quality. Then you enter the audiophile world and since the whole point of them is that they are professional, there is almost nothing about how they sound for gaming at all. Hard to get into for sure, shouldn't be this hard to choose a pair of headphones but it just is. Been looking at the DT 1770 Pro, DT 700 Pro X, a few others. 1770 Pro I've decided is just too aggressive, 700 Pro isn't as much but still without being able to try them out for myself it's impossible to know what is and isn't the right choice. I feel like there are many others in my situation that just go ahead and buy another "Gaming headphone" because they are overwhelmed by the audiophile world. I've been sitting on my same pair of headphones that are broken for some time now because I cannot find a viable replacement

[@zeffmalchazeen3429]

I have been using closed back for several years and recently switched to open back with the PC38x. It is like a more natural surround sound.

[@AL_1547]

Why does nobody talk about the Tygr 300r? This is the first video I have seen that even mentioned them and how great they are. Especially for the price.

[@SDXStudio]

I am SO hyped for these. I was planning on picking up a pair of 900 pros well in advance of this review, but it is always nice to see coverage on stuff I'm looking at. Once the funds allow, those babys are MINE.

[@mozambique9113]

dont rush for the new stuff, lets wait till some group of people really tried that out

[@GuitarSlayer136]

A year later and for the same money I managed to snag a pair of HD600s a set that the Pro X is constantly found slightly worse than. Honestly there's nothing Beyhers does better than the 990 pro 250ohm for an all rounder and for specifics your just better off with other brands unless you have a thing for extra trebel on an otherwise unremarkable set.

[@drewmorg.]

@@GuitarSlayer136 HD600 sound the most interesting to me out of entire Senn lineup and I have really dug deep and done my research. I have DT 770 Pro 80 ohm and Edition XS. Tried 560S and K371 also plus several wireless gaming. Honestly, the DT 770 pro 80 ohm is great but does require amplification to sound its best. It's not night and day though. One of the mid-tier interfaces will drive these to near max capacity. I'm most curious about the 1990's.

[@just_A_Hack]

Just picked up the DT 900 pro x based on your video. First pair of Beyerdynamics and I am in love. Been going through my music library just listening and I am just super happy with the experience. Keep up the great work my friend.

[@mkapp8724]

How are they holding up bro?

[@just_A_Hack]

@@mkapp8724 I honestly got rid of them after a couple months. Not because they didn't sound good, but with my glasses, I could never get them to be as comfortable as my other pair of shp 9500.

[@just_A_Hack]

@@mkapp8724 this may be late, but they were fine. i actually ended up selling them because I was having issues with fit and my glasses (giving me a headache) They held up on a day to day basis though without issue

[@hawaiian-cerveza]

Im enjoying the tygr 300 with the SDAC+LCX for gaming. Good enough sound stage, still not as huge as the AKG Q701 (still my favorite) but Im gna go for the HD8XX for my end game.

[@ernestthompson891]

Fantastic product review. Appreciate your "matter of fact", straight forward approach to the DT700 / 900 PRO X series. Wanted to upgrade from my Sennheiser's, both in closed and open back models. Hadn't experienced Beyerdynamic's before so I purchased "both" of these to assess which is best for my voice over production needs. WOW. Amazed with what I had been missing out on with this manufacturer. You were absolutely, 100% correct in your review and evaluations. The DT 700 PRO is extremely precise in it's closed back, highly detailed field and is wonderful for vocal recording and tracking. The DT 900 PRO is "exactly the same" in sound quality, but feels like you just entered an amphitheater concert staging area with it's detailed, open wide sound stage. Amazing. As a result, keeping "both" for different applications. These Beyerdynamic audio headphones are incredible in build and sound quality applications. More comfortable and better performing than the of my Sennheiser's. Thank you for your straight forward, honest evaluation. I certainly thought about purchasing the 1990's, but your honest evaluations let me know I am good with my purchase decision. Likewise, if anyone reviewing my comments has to make a purchase decision on either the DT700 or the DT900, get the DT900. You will never want to take them off your head. The open back sound stage is not too loose or "crazy open" to where you cannot get the job done with your recording needs. The DT700's are truly a audiophile recording and tracking work horse. Looking forward to more of your reviews. Thanks again. Subscribed + "All"

[@machmutdoener]

I got the 1900 and returned them. The highs were to sharp for me and EQ couldnt handle it in different situations. The soundstage was a real disappointment für me. It wasnt really wide and when listening to orchestral music i wasnt able to seperate a lot of instruments. Thats why i chose to return them and keep on listening on my AKG K712 Pros. Maybe i will be giving the 900 Pro X a chance but i dont think they will have a good wide soundstage

[@ChristopherConnors]

Your thoughts were helpful here, thank you! I am considering one of these for podcasting and gaming mostly, and I’ve never tried an open back style so I was considering the 900s.

[@machmutdoener]

@@ChristopherConnors i really wouldnt recommend these Headphones for Gaming, they dont have a wide soundstage. If you are playing shooters you will run into problems really identifying where the enemies exactly are. Go with something more open like the Audio Technica ATH-R7X, they have a good soundstage and a pleasing sound

[@bartbroekhuizen5617]

I've tested multiple HD 5XX and HD6XX series of Sennheiser and i found had the DT 700 / 900 Pro really fills the gap between de HD 5XX and HD6XX series. I find the DT's compared to the HD6XX abit more closer in your face / head but lacks mid range compared to Sennheiser. Trebble is abit more harsh then the HD Series but not to much. The base has abit more punch. Soundstage of the 900 is better then my HD660S which says allot. Still my HD 660S has a higher fidelity. I think i gonna keep the DT 700 because its has its own signature compared to the HD 660S and because its closed back which i don't have yet. I also play instruments and the DT 700 is very nice as a monitor headphone and it will be my main daily driver. I had the HD 515 Sennheiser (which i still like very much, but the velour is totally gone)

[@bartbroekhuizen5617]

​@@machmutdoener I had the same experience with the 990 Pro's, The 900 Pro X is totally different, smoother highs / trebble. Still BT's are sharper / brighter then the Sennheiser HD 5XX / 6XX series. Soundstaging of the Sennheiser's are better but Sound imaging from the BT's X series are more clear and less muddy (compared with my Sennheiser HD660S)

[@imprice5668]

Petition for everyone to start calling BadSeed "Cheif"

[@j3ff_k_610]

I have the tygr 300r and can confirm they are a fantastic headphone. Imaging is pin point and seperation and clarity are great. Not my favourite music headphone but by far my best gaming headphone. Highly recommend them to anybody looking for a gaming headphone that also does a good job in music, but eq the low end up a bit and dont be afraid to feed them a little power when listening to music.

[@salemkhamis6788]

Which are your favourite music headphones

[@Siberius-]

They have low end, since they're not "flat"/"neutral", but if you like your bass then that makes sense, since it's not an aggressive V sound signature.

[@Duvoncho]

Just picked up the 700 proX. Only been using them for a few days but they've massively improved my experience mixing and EQ'ing in Studio One. And going over all of my chosen reference tracks is eye opening. Also, reviewing my previously written music is now highlighting mistakes I made and didn't even realise. All part of the learning curve I guess. But these new 700 ProX are exactly what I was looking for, and for me, the isolation is a must. So these hit the brief perfectly. Loving them. Great review, I can confirm pretty much everything you described regarding the 700s. 👍

[@armanrozika]

just got mine, previously i used 770, now that i tried the 700, it feels like the 700 lacks mid and high range, or it's just maybe i have to get used to 700 now that i was used to use 770. Rock and Country songs sound so good tho with 700. But my mixes sound better on 770. Just need to try produce and mix with the 700 and test on speaker i guess

[@cffnn]

@@armanrozikahow your 700pro x now?

[@CrysisVN]

@@cffnn wondering the same thing

[@cffnn]

@@CrysisVN I bought this, so sound is not wonderful for me, but very good P.S. It can be discomfortable in first few days

[@CrysisVN]

@@cffnn what do you mean not wonderful? And uncomfortable? Im curious :D

[@microtasker]

He said "Stark Execution" 🤣🤣 Losing my Schiit over here!

[@xl_cr]

Brian is going to Hel for that one

[@lmntl6408]

900 Pro X or Sundara? With them being so close in price, that’d be the battle for me coming up on Black Friday. What would you choose?

[@bla_ank]

Sundaras need higher end source gear and are less suited for gaming. Competitive gaming on planars is disorienting, in my experience. Already have a nice amp/dac and don't plan on gaming? Sundaras imo

[@Rasyad95]

@@bla_ank can you share a bit more on the disorienting part? Thinking of one but I came across your comment

[@Jisooee]

For me, I will choose the Sundara over the 900 Pro X. For a lot of reasons. But this is kind of difficult to drive, well you need another DAC/Amp for this to show the full potential of the Sundara. In most cases, the 900 Pro X will be your fit. Since it's just a 48-ohm headphone, you can plug it anywhere. You can plug it on an audio interface just working pretty fine. That said, just to make sure that you're audio interface's headphone amp's output impedance is low, like 3.00 below..This is important for a lot of long reasons.

[@bla_ank]

@@Rasyad95 The way they render depth makes it difficult to rely on in competitive shooters. I was never quite sure how near or far noises were coming from. For "immersive" gaming they're fine. Maybe other people have had different experiences

[@Rasyad95]

@@bla_ank i see, thanks man. I guess HD800 is still the 'king' of soundstage. But imo they still lack the center imaging capabilities, so I'm looking for a cheaper, more gaming oriented headphone. I guess sundara is not it.

[@d-z1r349]

I ordered a set of the DT-900's for myself as a treat and boy, do these things go off! I have never heard such clarity before and honestly has changed everything for me. I paired these with a Fosi DAC Q4 and they sound amazing. Would love to get a Schiit stack to power these in the future. Thanks Brain for the awesome review.

[@Gabriel__rmrz]

would you say it is worth getting a dac/amp for the 900s? I know it isnt required based on the stats, but why spend $300 on something and not get the most out of them? btw i was looking at ifi zen dac v2 ifff its worth it.

[@christianoberreiter5011]

Its not worth it. Amps and dacs dont make a difference if your source can bring them to appropriate volume..

[@Gabriel__rmrz]

@@christianoberreiter5011 I actually ended up pulling the trigger on the zen, I must admit that for music listening the bass boost on the zen DAC gave it the punch it was missing. As far as how loud the headphones are. It was just fine when plugged straight to my mobo. Personally i think it's worth it if you have the money, however I can only speak on this combo of 🎧 and amp/DAC.

[@christianoberreiter5011]

Sure a bass boost function is another story the point i was trying to make is that amps and dacs in general should and do not alter the sound. Except for something like a bass boost function glad you like it i have dt 700pros myself

[@drewmorg.]

@@christianoberreiter5011 Can agree with you I just bought a $300 Schiit stack and the difference is so minimal over my $40 UMC22 Behringer it's hard to recommend. They can drive a lot higher, yes, and sound is a bit more interesting and playful/dynamic, yes... but when I A-B test them it's so close that I wish I saved the money and just bought a lower impedance headset like 300R and ran on my UMC22. This way I keep my direct mic monitoring and save several hundred dollars and don't have cables all over my desk.

[@tw1tch09]

The 700 pro might be might be my next closed back cans. Thanks badseed your vids are awesome

[@vudoo2068]

Would you recommend the 900 Pro X over the TYGR 300R for general light studio work, gaming, music listening, etc.?

[@badseedtech]

Totally just depends on what you like. High end on the 300R is smoother, wider soundstage, and its more comfortable. 900 Pro X is less comfortable, much more aggressive highs, but better detail.

[@vudoo2068]

@@badseedtech Thanks for the response! Cheers brother.

[@cobbut]

@@badseedtech have you tried bending the 900 X yet? I got a big ass head so I'm worried about it being too uncomfortable.

[@housepianist]

Great review. I bought the 770 Pro 80 Ohms about 3 weeks ago thinking that Beyer would probably never update them and the 990 Pro. And then BOOM - they come up with the new 700 and 900 Pro X models. Ugh! I love my 770s. I love the sub-bass presence when it's in the music and the hint of it when it's not in the music. And I also happen to like that peaky treble as it adds space and clarity. Personally, I think that treble will only be a problem if you listen to music at ear-deafening volumes. But at lower to moderately loud volumes, it's no problem at all. Just my opinion, of course. Anyway, I love my 770 Pro 80 Ohms but now I'm wanting to upgrade to the 700s. But do I need to? And now, I'm thinking maybe the 900s might be good too. I use them only to listen to music. I guess I'll figure it out. Thanks for the review! 👍🏽

[@StickShiftRWD]

Amazing review, amazing beard. Need I say more

[@1braincellwhm]

So I've had the 900 pro x for more than a year now. Great sounding headphone but the pad at the top is literally designed to fail. After a month or two of use it starts to fall apart and is a MAJOR complaint from 900 pro x owners. The first pad fell apart after 3-4 months, I bought 2 replacements and the next one fell apart in less than a month. This is a massive design flaw and can't recommend the 900 pro x for that reason.

[@msd5808]

I was hoping to hear that they had improved their pads by now, since I just got one of these...

[@gabrielst527]

The headband pad you mean?

[@kevinsmith9337]

Great review! I'm quite curious about these. If I'll get one it will be the DT 900 Pro X, was thinking the DT 700 Pro X but not sure if I would like them as much. I've owned the DT 1990 Pro, DT 990 Pro, DT 880, DT 1770, T1 Gen 2, DT 150, and the Amiron Home in the past. Liked all of them but did felt a little meh about the DT 880. Have yet to own a DT 770 Pro and haven't heard the TYGR 300 R yet, but the TYGR's are on my listen/buy list. Currently only have the T1 Gen 3, which is love/hate for many but are my favorite Beyer.

[@disadadi8958]

Damn, I love the T1 gen 3 as well! Absolutely an amazing pair, but I do understand why some people don't really like them.

[@NeonPizza80s]

Have you tried the 900 Pro X yet? If so, how do they stack up against the 1990 Pro's? I'm torn between the two. Is it really worth stepping up to the 1990's by dopping over $400 CAD?

[@shoobror8291]

@@NeonPizza80s Yeah, don't get the 1990s if ure not working in a pro studio where u need flat sound. Flat sound is boring, and only needed for pro work. 700 pro's are way more fun than any of them, for normal use. Get the 700 if u want to have fun listening to music, or 900 if u do some audiowork on the side :)

[@NeonPizza80s]

@@shoobror8291 I was actually going to step it up and get the 1770 pro's instead, that, or the 1990 pro's for it's more spacial, open and wider sound stage. 1770's seem to excell in sub bass and sound more agressive though. I'd have to hear both to make a desicion i guess.

[@NeonPizza80s]

@@shoobror8291 I prefer the 900 pro x's over my DT770's(Closed back)....After I increased the bass with my EQ settings and used High gain, the 900's started to really shine. As expected, they sound more open and have a wider soundstage and the bass response isn't lacking at all. Vocals could be better though. Still going to try out the 1990s

[@TsunTzu]

Great breakdown...and reinforcing my confidence in previous purchases. Have my bases covered with the TYGR and 177X.

[@Doenstop]

Hey there, After some time, did you think it was worth it to have a closed back good headphone next to the TYGRs? Sometimes, I think about it, but then don't pull the trigger on the DT770 80 Ohm's

[@Relax-il7zn]

I have both the 990 and 900. The 900 sounds closer to a semi open back/closed headphone imo. The 990 feels much more open and wide. The 990 also sounds more detailed. But the 900 sounds more full. Music wise if you prefer fine detail and wider soundstage I think 990 is better. But if you can sacrifice a tiny bit of detail and openness for more full sound and slightly more bass, then 900 is better. Gaming wise 990 is more detailed in terms of precise soundstage. The 900 is decent, but in apex for example a lot of times I can tell that someone is in a 10m area based of the sound I hear. Rarely do I know the exact spot they really are. The 990 however most of the time I can tell exactly where they are. I've seen a few reviews making it sound like the 900 is better than the 990 on that aspect and I don't find it to be true at all. However a good dac/amp is required. I originally used the 990 on a soundblaster x4 and thought it was just okay. Then with the ifi zendac v2, it sounded much more detailed. The 900 sounded the same on the x4 and the zendac. Just good. Not special for gaming.

[@Mr.Dodo-]

Thanks👍 I have the Tygr 300r but the cable broke so I am looking for new headphones. If you have any recommendations for an upgrade let me know.

[@gabrielst527]

@@Mr.Dodo- do a plug cable mod on them

[@todherman2614]

At Massdrop's current special price of $349 for the dt 177X go, how would you feel about purchasing the 1770x vs the 900 pro x?

[@xmistersinisterx]

I was wondering that myself.

[@mr.y1965]

My son has DT770 PRO 80 Ohm and since 0ne week, i have the DT990PRO Black with 80 Ohm for my PC. I listen music und make gaming and...im still drolling. I thought about getting the TYGR for comparison, but...no, i dont need that, im so happy with 990 and open headphones are better than closed like 770.

[@mrchester6e]

Love your content.. I am planning to buy the Dt 900 pro x, primarily for competitive gaming(warzone, Valorant) , I am aware it only requires 40 ohms, in that case do I still need a DAC amp for better sound quality ?

[@Ohmnity]

Actually got a unit with the audio cut out issue on my 900 PRO X, stellar sound regardless. A replacement's already on its way but I found these to be much better than my Fidelios X2HR, hopefully the new unit will be ok with its cables as I really see myself daily driving these!

[@poczesaniec1]

Hey, the Fidelios for me was better for fps games that 990 pro, but I'm to have to try this now😉

[@RayanAbedin]

Dang I was torn between getting the TYGR 300 R's and the 900 Pro X, I was hoping for a direct comparison between these two! I'm assuming you enjoy the 900 Pro X more since it's versatile. Would the TYGRs be considered bad for mixing/producing? I'm trying to get a headphone for that as well as gaming.

[@Siberius-]

I was also hoping to see that, and then he just didn't compare them for some reason... Going by Z Review's review of the TYGR, they're too coloured to be as useful for making music. They're both fantastic for gaming though, you couldn't go wrong there. Then other than that they have different characteristics for music listening.

[@PatrikZero]

How would you compare the DT 900 and the TYGR 300 R for your preferences for a balanced usage of gaming, music and video production?

[@acphantom6437]

Hey Brian you should get a unit of the Yamaha YHE-700a really under the radar and I think it'll pique a lot of people's interests for music listening.

[@RebelMotovlog]

I got Beyerdynamic MMX 300 with a studio level mic and great headphone overall. worth the money! planning to try the DT 770 but I think it's gonna have the same sound

[@ianpan2316]

Good Vid. I own both the 900 pro x and 1990 pro and I prefer the 900 pro x. It's cheaper, more neutral and more versatile.

[@drewmorg.]

Do you still feel this way a year later? I want 1990's ... real bad. Thinking about sending back Edition XS to get them.

[@CrowdTypical]

Really appreciate your breakdown for the 700 vs. 900 - I'm not looking for sound isolation and was about to buy the 700 aha. Thanks a bunch :)

[@mrdanky5545]

I’ve got the 900s and I agree much better than the 990s. Was going to get the 700 or 770, I like to be able to crank the bass too, do you think the 700 would be best for producing higher bass? (Costs don’t matter)

[@vgtastarv1617]

Closed back have more Bass for sure

[@doublecrossedswine112]

Loving the tygr 300 r. Amazing cans for 170 usd.

[@BuzzKora]

as someone that owns and loves beyerdynamic products geez... this video was so confusing to watch with so many 7s and 9s being thrown around xd beyer, naming those 770 and 990 again was not a smart move xd

[@bakarenibsheut12]

I think it's a tough situation for Beyer as they have to show somehow that the 700 and 900 PROs are meant to be successors to the 770 and 990 PROs respectively.

[@Kageyasha88]

So the Tygr 300 R is a better headphone for gaming than the 900 Pro X? Or what is your conclusion about these two? The 900 pro X is available for around 200€ if I buy them second hand from Beyerdynamic directly. The Tygr costs 144€ new.

[@TEGvTEG]

"STARK EXECUTION" 💀

[@jasonhaiad]

always love how in depth you go for reviews, you hit everything an audiophile or producer would care about in headphones that alot of other reviews ive seen miss

[@numinous123]

I was a big fan of AKG products, and had a pair of AKG K702's which I loved, but always found lacking in the bass department, but I decided to try out the 900 pro x, and I have to say I'm loving these headphones. Good bass, and mids. Even has sub-bass. The highs are more detailed on the k702's, but that might be fixed with a break in period and some adjustments. The sub-bass on the 702's is almost non-existent, and the bass was always lacking. I was shocked how good the 900x's sound out of the box. I'm keeping these. They're amazing.

[@mkapp8724]

How are they holding up? Im really considering buying them

[@numinous123]

​@@mkapp8724 They're doing great. Despite the 45 Ohms a little extra power definitely helps. I have the Zen Dac V2 and I keep it on "power match" which helps round out the sound even though I have to keep the volume low, or I'll blow my ears out.

[@raaskyl7491]

So, not worth getting the 900 pro X if you have the tygr?

[@gaminginasmr]

I just bought a pair of the 770 pro 80 ohms for $130 on Newegg. I can't wait for them to arrive. Mainly gonna be using them for ASMR content creation and video editing/mixing. Thanks so much for the awesome content!

[@badseedtech]

They'll work great for that. They'll work great for that.

[@ali61700]

what about the new bose gaming headphone

[@jdm7755]

300r is the best headphone i have ever used for gaming and light music listening, a true hidden gem

[@tonyukuk4725]

Did u try 560s or pc38x?

[@zahitemremetin606]

@@tonyukuk4725 HD 560S is the best out of all, especially for Rainbow Six Siege.

[@tonyukuk4725]

@@zahitemremetin606 pc38x aldım ama çok memnun değilim.belkide hyperx e çok alıştım bilemiyorum.

[@jdm7755]

@@tonyukuk4725 I have not tried the 560s but I have a pair of pc38x and they aren’t bad by any means and sound good but I just prefer beyers sound

[@zahitemremetin606]

@@tonyukuk4725 Reviews say that PC38X is not good for competitive FPS. So are you planning to buy something new?

[@Siberius-]

Wait you spoke about the TYGR in relation to the older Beyer models, but you didn't compare them to the DT900... I was so happy to see that the comparison was going to be made between the 2 headphones I'm trying to decide between, and then it didn't happen for some reason lol. So far I think I'll be going with the TYGRs.

[@AyySorento]

Hmm. Very interesting. Still on the 770 80/250 Ohm train for $160ish but we'll see. At that price point they are very competive. The $300 price point is a whole new ball game in terms of competition.

[@Ari_G73]

For me the 770 250ohm at the price is still a no brainer but the new one is definitely solid

[@badseedtech]

I'd say stay on that train tbh. You're 100% correct about the price point comparisons. I could make an hour long video just talking about all the open backs at $300.

[@Ari_G73]

@@badseedtech you should! :)

[@cutcorners6005]

The old models honestly LOOK nicer than the new ones.

[@joefilter2923]

How do the DT 177X GO fit into the lineup?

[@graf_renner6153]

Can you review the Denon ah-d5200 / d7200 or 9200 dese are pretty well regarded closed backs and have a low impedance of 24ohm ( the d5200 is like 400$ and could maybe be compared to the 700./ as well Joshua Valor did a Video on dees which might be interesting )🏳👍

[@HorWangZaaa]

For someone who mainly use for gaming/youtube and a little bit of music, what would you recommend between 900 and Tygr 300R? For your information my previous headphones are Massdrop 990 premium.

[@skeza2496]

Noooo my man, Been waiting for this comparison and to find out you sold the 177x's. Heartbreaking. Cant decide between a 1990/900x/300r to compliment my 177x's

[@badseedtech]

FWIW it hurt me too lol. If I already had the 177x for closed, I would probably go with the 900x. The presentation is different enough to warrant the variety. BUT - the highs on the 177X are kinda smooth and the 700/900 are not, so if you're sensitive to highs, go 300R.

[@skeza2496]

@@badseedtech cheers boss! I think I'm just gonna have to buy all 3 and test the soundstage/imaging myself. Highs I can handle if it's the best on field. Keep up the top tier work king!

[@benstevens893]

Hey Badseed, how do these (900) generally compare with something like the Audeze Penrose?

[@bretts7037]

Bought the 900 Pro X. Waited over a month for back orders to ship out to Canada. Just received them and they are amazing. Definitely need an amp though, unfortunately.

[@RealSeb]

Are the Tygr 300r better for gaming pinpointing than the DT 900 pro x? Regardless of price. Also if I want to amp the 900 can I use my GOXLR (has 150 ohm amp) or do I need a dedicated amp to get higher quality sound?

[@xmistersinisterx]

Brian, which would you prefer, the dt 700 pro x or the dt 177x go?

[@666thsense]

writing before finishing the video...my dt1990 are my lifeblood. i've never been able to find something i like better. lets see how this goes!

[@aki-001]

did you buy the 900 pro-X? is the difference that big to justify extra $$$ for 1990?

[@666thsense]

@@aki-001 i bought the 900 proX since this, and unless you’re specifically looking for a 250 ohm headphone, go with the 900 proX! especially for gaming, the proX is a no brainer. 1990s are a little smoother, but the proX has a little more detail in the mids and i think a wider soundstage because the ear cups are less obstructed. the 1990 DOES sound a little better. like 7-10%, but you really need to be doing A/B comparisons and looking for that difference.

[@jyip1442]

Which one should i get if i usually listen to neoclassical, postrock, lofi and also some light AAA and FPS gaming?

[@cyberc0l0mbiana]

Loved the vid! 🔥 Which one would be less likely to make tinnitus worse - DT 900 Pro X or TYGR 300 R? What do head-fiers who suffer from tinnitus demand in headphones from a technical standpoint (low/high treble, neutral vs warmer, strong highs, etc..)?

[@dilip_1997]

tygr 300 vs dt900 pro x ? which should I get ,does the 900 justify the 150$ premium

[@derrickcrocker4265]

Oh yeah, just finally added the Sennheiser HD6XX to my cart and was wondering about another pair....would like to know where these fit in in comparison?

[@sohailbarvar7817]

Hd6xx have zero sound stage in comparison and need a good amp to drive them they also roll off bass and terrible these are much better in my opinion however if you listen to lots of vocal focused music and like a chill sound hd6xx is a better pick it has incredible timbre quality.

[@badseedtech]

This is literally the best possible answer to this question. You sir, know your stuff.

[@V4mplr3]

I have a tygr 300r professionally modded to have a detachable cable and a mmx300. I use the tygr to hear music at work and the mmx300 to game. Use them with sound blaster g6 without filters.

[@badseedtech]

That's a big brain move.

[@V4mplr3]

@@badseedtech I've seen a video on KZbin on how to do It, It's pretty easy, I'm sure you could do it with your amazing switch soldering skills. :D

[@akssivin8072]

I have 770&700 and for some reason I feel like 770 much warmer and have more sub-bass than 700. 770 - 3 years, 700 - 1 week

[@bartbroekhuizen5617]

Thanks for the reviews! I've tested multiple HD 5XX and HD6XX series of Sennheiser and i found that the DT 700 / 900 Pro really fills the gap between de HD 5XX and HD6XX series. I find the DT's compared to the HD6XX abit more closer in your face / head but lacks mid range compared to Sennheiser. Trebble is abit more harsh then the HD Series, but not to much. The base has abit more punch. Soundimaging of the 900 is better then my HD 660S which says allot. Still my HD 660S has a higher fidelity picking up details and crisp sounds. I think i gonna keep the DT 700 because its has its own signature compared to the HD 660S and because its closed back which i don't have yet. I also play instruments and the DT 700 is very nice as a monitor headphone and it will be my main daily driver. I had the HD 515 Sennheiser (which i still like very much, but the velour is totally gone)

[@smudo7081]

Great vid. One question Tygr or dt 900 pro x for gaming, cutting and music?

[@GlennaciousC]

Hey Brian, would you recommend these as a decent step up over the PC38x + Mayflower Arc Mk2? I would be using them with a Schiit stack if that matters. Trying to make that leap to the next level. I listen to music and game about 50/50.

[@howtheturntables]

It’s surprising that you ditched your 177x Go’s! The way you gushed over them when they first came out for a second there I thought you’d take them to your grave lol!

[@satyambastia2905]

Hello! I have a question regarding headphone impedance. I own the Beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro X, which has an impedance of 48 ohms. I'm considering purchasing the Audient iD4 interface, which has a headphone impedance of 600 ohms. I've heard that using higher impedance headphone amps with lower impedance headphones can affect frequency response and potentially damage the drivers. Can you clarify if this will be an issue, or if it's safe to use the headphones with the interface? Thanks in advance!

[@NE0X.X]

Exactly the video that I need to finally decide my 770 250ohm just died and I was thinking about going for the another 770 or the 700x and tbh the 700x look really promising for the use I'm going to give them love how in depth you analyze all the headphones

[@systembooms69]

Can you tell me, please, if the 700 suffer from high volume distortion as the 770's?

[@shinobee771]

Is the dt900 an upgrade from the tygr 300r? As far as FPS games. I currently own tygrs and I don’t have a place where I can try out the dt900.

[@roorfetish]

Im testing the Tygr, MMX 300 and the 900 Pro X at the moment and I can say the 900 Pro X would be the best for FPS.. better imaging and details to listen.. but, BUT ! this crispy high details can be annyoing in long gaming sessions because its more of an analytical hearing, you realise every sound all the time and that can be stressfull.. and the 900 pro x are more uncomfortable in long session, it feels like a head pressure. The Tygr 300 are MUCH more comfortable for gaming the sound is more relaxing, more warm but also a very nice imaging and soundstage for gaming. When youre more into games, especially in FPS then go with the Tygr 300, you can locate your enemy, footsteps, shootings and all this stuff as good as the Pro X, just more relaxed.. i like both very much, the Tygr 300 and the Pro X and i also have to make a decission because i love competitive fps gaming and i think the 900 pro x is not worth the extra cost when it comes to gaming.. Its made to work with music and sounds what its named for.. for the studios ! and thats exactly what i can confirm.. The MMX 300 i dont like, not nearly as interesting as the 900 pro x or tygr 300 ( my english is not the best )

[@shinobee771]

@@roorfetish I went with IEMS the Sennheiser IE300 instead super great for music and gaming.

[@trienforcer974]

Never heard of the Tygr 300r before, research time

[@ImChasingChase]

How do the 900s compare to something like a sundara? I got those last year and my one complaint about them is they are a little on the heavy side for me. I’ve also been looking for something that’s good for music and immersive single player gaming and I’m sensitive to highs, so the 1990 pro scares me off. Great video as always!

[@loucipher7782]

literally EVERY headphone reviews i see they will say the sub bass is rolled off seriously WTF? which headphone doesnt have rolled off sub bass???

[@badseedtech]

Closed backs

[@Hakka2424]

I got my 900x Pro and it has less bass than my 990? Same amp setup and no eq tweaking. Yet my 990 vibrates and easily booms when my 900x just hurts my ear cuz I’m trying to hear the bass. Anyone else?

[@davidolsson]

This is the vid that made med push the buy button for the 700 Pro X. Kinda IEM guy so this will be the step into closed back headphones.

[@REALKiwis]

Dt 990s are horrible for gaming. Highs are piercing and it feels like you are going to get titinus in seconds 🤣🤣. Which is unfortunate as they are the most comfy headphones ea I've worn. Bur I'm intrigued by 900pro.

[@freaky2xd]

I got the DT 1990 for only 450 dollars which is quite a good deal. I've used the 990 Edition 600 Ohm for a coupel weeks but those were simply too bright for me.

[@badseedtech]

That's a steal - well done

[@kabloom6776]

So overall which are better? DT 900 Pro X or Tygr 300r for overall use? I don’t play shooters, just casual games and listen to music.

[@Hakka2424]

Tygr. 900x isn’t good music headphones.

[@correlatedcuisine]

Heads up, that while Beyerdynamic's website still states 24-48h shipping for the 700 Pro X in the US, they are currently on a 4-6 week backorder per my inquiry into support. It's been 2.5 weeks since I placed my order.

[@ACE112ACE112]

How do these compare to things like the HD560s and other sennheiser headphoens?

[@badseedtech]

The high end on these are more pronounced and the imaging is better imo. Most Sennheisers have a softer (or darker) sound. Each brand has their own signature sound, and I personally enjoy Beyerdynamic's more. Some people find them too intense.

[@profosist]

Maybe its just me but I still prefer the looks of the older models. :D

[@badseedtech]

I do too! Those macro shots of the textured 770 cups warm my heart.

[@zahitemremetin606]

Yeah, I really dislike the "y" logo of Beyer it's just ugly and the font they used on these is not my favorite, the font on DT 1990 Pro is much better, that one looks classy.

[@Damjan25]

yea beyerdynamic really dont know anything about comfort. MMX 300 gen2 absolute garbage comfort and now same these new ones

[@TheSgtGijoe]

Nice, cannot wait for the prices for AUS. I have been on the fence between price, models, work/gaming/entertainment, and looking into closed backs for isolation and in case office use. Really appreciate how you go into the finer details and look for covering all questions or thoughts we might have. This has made the decision on which Beyerdynamic headphones to get much simpler, ending countless predicaments. Love your content and looking forward to more Brian!

[@Bl4ckWarHawk]

Fyi the headband from the Tygr300r fits on the DT770. Its called the custom headband and is sold separately on beyers websites for 15€ (though I dont know if its available in the US). Swapping in the custom headband improved the comfort of the 770s a lot for me.

[@badseedtech]

Yeah its great. I had one on the Special Edition 880 I had as well. Not sure why they all don't just come stock like that.

[@nickster9137]

Great review… description of the 700 pro x matches my experience.

[@o0TraceuR0o]

i can't connect these straight to my motherboard aux jack right?

[@Im_Not_Dave]

Thanks for the Review Brian. I'm curious how they'd sound when playing tarkov or hunt showdown. does anyone know if it really makes a difference for games that require sound ques? Would a normal gaming headset suffice? I'm new to high end headphones! Just to add I also use my airpods for work but would consider over-ear headphones for that as well!

[@LoLitsJerry]

I just got the 900 pro x, and I have it connected to my goxlr. Question, I do not know if its the goxlr or the headphones or the mini xlr cable but my audio sounds like I am underwater. I've tested my sennhiser 599 to see if i get the same affect through my goxlr and I do not, any suggestions?

[@johnellison3173]

Try a different cable. If they still sound like that then id return them as that doesn't sound right at all.

[@LoLitsJerry]

@@johnellison3173 okay thanks it came with two. I'm going to see if the problem presist throughout the weekend and make my judgment from there. Thanks friend!

[@ACE112ACE112]

What does a fast headphone mean?

[@badseedtech]

Fast means that a note hits, and then it recovers and hits again. You feel this mostly in the low end. Think of a kick drum. Rap/EDM may have an 808 thump that trails off. Like a big BOOOMMMMmmmm. Now think of like a double kick drum on a metal track. Really fast, tight drum hits. If a headphone isn't fast, it means it can't really "keep up" with stuff like that.

[@XadjustmentX]

ive had a pair of 990 pro limited edition 80ohm's for over a year now. by far my favorite headphones ive ever used for gaming on the pc. paired with my schitt stack they sound awesome!

[@LakerTriangle]

How do they compare to your new LCD-X's?

[@badseedtech]

They lack the sub bass extension and the highs run a touch hotter, but they're overall very comfortable. Listening to something like this really reinforces the idea of diminishing returns.

[@jasonfranciosa]

Great video, the TYGR is def a hidden gem. It's my daily driver even if it's not as detailed or technical as my Sundara. With a small amount of EQ, the TYGR is really great for Music as well.

[@hansgoranhogstrom1900]

I've wanted Tygrs for like a year, but I cant order directly from beyer to get just the headphones, thats only for select countries. but they sure do sell the bundle here. Its messed up. If anyone at beyer is reading this... just offer to sell the damn headphones by themselfes to everyone everywhere and Ill gladly buy them. I dont give a flying heck about the microphone, maybe some do, but Im not the only one who is flustered about the forced bundle. team tygr bundle, thats a hard pass for me.

[@christopherdiaz5846]

They do sell them alone. I just bought them.

[@hansgoranhogstrom1900]

@@christopherdiaz5846 and where do you live? My point is its not sold on its own evrywhere. It is some places. I'm in Norway and no local stores sell them unbundled. Cant order directly from beyer eu either, they specify only a handful of countries they ship to and Norway aint one. And Norway aint the only one either. Reddit and various forums have posts where this issue is brought up by people who have no option to order them by themselfes from local stores or beyer directly. And that is silly in my opinion.

[@raffetoffe]

Good to know that the 770's are better for gaming. I bought these last year and now I saw these new ones and fortunately don't have to upgrade

[@vgtastarv1617]

Whitch 770 80 Ohm 250 ohm?