BAGGING vs FRONTRUNNING | Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

HEY TROY (feat. TWD98)
How to get Better at Mario Kart: • FULL Beginner Guide | ...
Bagging: waiting near last place for good items (bullet bill, shock/lightning, star, golden mushroom, mushrooms) and using them to make a comeback. This lets you get to 10 coins and stay away from attack items, and you can potentially dodge the shock or do item smuggling.
Running/frontrunning: Driving as fast as you can at all times to try and stay near the front. This is the normal way to play mario kart, but your items will be worse on average, and you will be susceptible to attack items like red shells, green shells, fire flower, boomerang, bananas.

[@Shortcat321]

What are your thoughts on bagging in Mario kart? also here's Troy's perspective, watch it or funky kong will not be in mario kart 8 deluxe: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ-piXiKdpysfrc

[@ashthegamer5178]

Man I love your videos they keep me occupied and you taught me so much!

[@ashthegamer5178]

Also I didn’t know you guys were friends you’ve also got ALL the mk8 KZbinrs 😅

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

Funky is not getting in anyway. He got into mario kart tour late, and there is no evidence that Nintendo knows that funky is popular. It is wishful thinking that makes people think he will be in. He is competing with Pauline and Diddy. It does not look good for his chances. I want him to be in the game too, but he probably won't. Let's not get our hopes up. It will only hurt us later.

[@hydrogen380]

Bagging is so much more fun cos of the items however I am so bad at it. I front run when I wanna win.

[@xSakuraStrawberryx]

Heyyy

[@TWD98]

I'm gonna get revenge on you for that LONDON LOOP RACE!!!

[@Shortcat321]

I'm still thinking about coconut mall 😊

[@Gladiator6]

No

[@WiiManLei]

bam shocc doj

[@Lol-zc1vd]

@@Shortcat321 he gonna get coconut malled

[@ruudelst1973]

Thank you both for the video! Really enjoyed it. Would love to see more and especially with the same variables so both the same character and kart set up to level the playing field a bit more. Or maybe speed for bagging vs acceleration for frontrunning?

[@masmarvelous]

16:15 It's not a Shortcat video without one self-sabotaging green shell. I think you just have a permanent green shell stat for yourself

[@Shortcat321]

Thanks I hate it

[@Andrew-oo2bx]

@@Shortcat321do you by chance have another youtube channel named jperm?😂

[@airlol]

that was insane

[@box7403]

@@Andrew-oo2bxOMG,,!!1!1’1!11!,! JPERM LIKE THE SPEED CUBER GUY?!?!1!?1?L?

[@benanauo7694]

@@Shortcat321😅😅😅😅😢

[@nuggs4snuggs516]

The year is 2030. All MK8D races start with all twelve players bagging at the first item boxes

[@joebob4579]

One player has to front run for everyone

[@apollogeist8513]

Accurate because MK9 still won't be out by then.

[@starp7675]

20XX

[@byzantine5761]

@@joebob4579 nah they make an update where you can throw mushrooms like red shells to force someone to front run for you to get better items

[@Buphido]

"And if *everyone* is bagging… …then noone will be." >:-)

[@inthestorm11]

You've easily become my favorite Mario Kart creator, please keep these up I'm addicted

[@hydrogen380]

Same

[@NadeYTea]

hi sotrm :D

[@inthestorm11]

@@NadeYTea hi Nade

[@Skillissuelol]

The collab we didnt ask for but was definitely long awaited and needed

[@Lol-zc1vd]

atleast troy fans been asking for this collab

[@Steerable6827]

they've kinda already collabed on shortcats other channel (j-perm)

[@kamranhussain2210]

I asked for it

[@hydrogen380]

Facts

[@hydrogen380]

I learnt about Troy form this collab and now watch his vids

[@Mathwizardgamer]

Shortcat’s videos never get old.

[@sheiladesnoo8649]

That's because they are pretty new.

[@TheCowMoosAtNight]

That’s because he’s jperm

[@lukecafc8145]

​@@TheCowMoosAtNightyes

[@ianchaplin2777]

Shortcat sniping himself with a green shell has got to be the best play I have ever seen

[@UCezI1mEFSJR_GHO4Z7bs8YA]

Spoiler 👎

[@ianchaplin2777]

@@UCezI1mEFSJR_GHO4Z7bs8YA go reply to @masmarvelous comment with the same thing then

[@livi_bwop]

6:15 omg you bagged so good you front ran and he front ran so bad he bagged

[@Shortcat321]

This happened so many times HAHA, just goes to show the chaos of mario kart

[@Mrtrycoolguy]

@shroomlessshortcat

[@Mrtrycoolguy]

@@Shortcat321 look at my other comment😂

[@svee7597]

“This is the problem with front running, as soon as the chaos begins you are defenseless. You become the victim of the chaos.” There are meaningful life lessons embedded in every Nintendo game.

[@TravisHirkala]

Except there aren’t laps in real life. Just an endless marathon so you can choose to live under a bridge or choose to be king.

[@kyanharvey1622]

Shortcat never dissapoints

[@Justanyo]

Grats on the channel growth lately, these videos have been stellar. I'm always looking forward to the next upload.

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you so much!! I really appreciate it and you can always look forward to more 😊

[@laserfoxpro]

@@Shortcat321are you jperm

[@Deoxys1585]

Yeah. I remember shortcat when he had 5000 subscribers and in just a few months he’s past jpgiviner in subscribers. Thanks for teaching me some shortcuts too

[@randaljr.8581]

the real top tier strategy is whatever that villager is doing lol. always nice to see TWD =)

[@Paperboy01234]

If you're talking about the one on the Comet, he has a better rearview due to him being on an inside-drifting bike. So this means he has better sniping. Not to mention he knows the best lines that most pros will take, so he traps the lines using bombs such as the Squeaky Clean Sprint example where Troy took the bait.

[@Shortcat321]

The villager got 11th on snes mario circuit 3, and 12th on animal crossing. Idk...

[@mangus6191]

I don't exactly know why, but your videos seem so genuine. Like your not trying to put up some personality, it is just purely playing a fun game with a fun person y'know?

[@Antrex201]

ngl shortcat vids always entertain me and im glad your channel has grown so much

[@Thermoedge]

Hello Shortcat, an interesting challenge for u would be to try winning a game while using the tilt controls. Cool video btw!

[@connorball4504]

He constantly has tilt controls turned on

[@superfellaofficial]

that’s barely a challenge

[@aspoonofgarlic6676]

Honestly seeing boo then remembering its your favorite character makes me feel warm that your playing him

[@Idk_my_username]

Seeing King Boo always puts a smile on my face. :)

[@livi_bwop]

i have been so addicted to your vids i binged them all so i’m happy to see a new one :>

[@loupgrimonprez134]

it's cool to see you collab and grow with other people of the community ! Love the content !!

[@onebear6504]

I'm really happy you do 2 videos a week nowadays! It's always really fun! Appreciate all you've done for it!

[@diskritis2076]

Wow, he has been active on this channel. There's an other channel of his with 1.5 M subs and hr has been inactive there. Good to know he is still doing yt

[@angrypotato857]

Reality of mario kart: You try to frontrun, you get blue shelled 10 seconds into the game, down to 12th place and force bagging.

[@DanielDeLeon69]

Shortcat Your MK8D Challenge Videos are Always Fun To Watch!🙂

[@YoutubeLover-np9lu]

I was just looking on both of your channels looking for a new video. Seeing you both uploaded together is great

[@aidanzeglis]

i so love that you're doing collabs, keep up the incredible vids!

[@TheZiHengGuy]

I have a severe stomach ache currently, and watching your videos always makes me forget about all of my worries. Thank you!

[@zyferion]

I've recently started getting into mk8d and so happy you post so regularly. your vids help me a lot 😸

[@Fixbiie]

I love your videos man im always excited when you upload!

[@justinwang2119]

J perm never knew you were so good at Mario kart

[@ToyoshiG3]

I prefer front running because I grew up on mario kart 7 and I simply find it more fun but it's cool to know they're sort of balanced! Having each their own playstyle is always the coolest thing

[@clay8156]

Telling your viewers to start bagging so you can frontrun and get an advantage Very smart strategy!

[@scottchapman1742]

Really don't like bagging as a viable strategy. It's a different kind of skill for sure, but it feels so much more gimicky than front running. Let's bring some Funky Kong/Flame Runner to MK8D, and see how it fares at front running.

[@MrOiram46]

If it can do everything like it did in MKWii, it’ll just be the Meta again lmao

[@OrbitalStr]

i love how this was a mini flounder fest, also great vids it'd be cool to see you and troy collab more ^-^

[@myouism9172]

I don't play MK8 and I probably never will be able to but your vids are a part of my daily routine man. Ty for the entertainment!

[@MaxEvans-cc4fm]

Respect to you for putting descriptions of each strat in the description

[@protonjones54]

of course the t-baggers won

[@Gleeble_alien]

i remember you talking about how you were a troy fan when you did the rainbow road and rubiks cube challenge and its so fun to see you two do a video together

[@Yo_soy_Annna]

This proves just how skilled you are Shortcat 🔥 thanks for the videos. We want more 😻

[@Smoki_BS]

As long as Dylan is posting im happy doesnt matter if its on this channel or J perm

[@ElMarlie]

The editing quality in this video is really good!

[@LumenPsycho]

Looks like both are viable strategies.

[@FunkiMonki69]

As someone who's not a big fan of Mario Kart as a competitive game cause of the randomness, all you guys did was prove my suspicion that it literally doesn't matter what you do, fate will decide your placement.

[@jesusperezvazquez7840]

I've enjoying ur videos a lot! Keep it up!

[@Eduard.D.Vinsmoke]

i was literally wondering yesterday why you all havnt done a vid together. Love it

[@lovelickyjpeg]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS COLLAB OMG 🤞🤞‼️‼️

[@daniel22585]

This is awesome man well done!

[@soup3ppee]

such a wholesome dynamic between troy and shortcat

[@LumenPsycho]

Really good energy to your videos.

[@binary_gaming113]

You're the youtuber that makes me the happiest when I see you uploaded!

[@dirtyrainbow2501]

I love your videos so much! You got me back into Mario kart 8! I hope to increase my online points so that I can go against you :3

[@JemarcusTheLamb87]

Troy with shortcat? Amazing

[@heyyicu]

i love listening to ur videos with the television off while i fall asleep 😅

[@gregbullington891]

Now that was entertaining. Good to see you too Troy.

[@mdmackint]

I never bag, but maybe I should! I'm just really bad at catching up, so I always end up frontrunning. Great video as always! 😎

[@hydrogen380]

Been loving your vids since the start

[@thedreadpirateblacktooth5551]

This has got to be the most polite Mario Kart match ever...

[@galvanize790]

Would love to see a vid showing which tracks are considered frontrunners and which ones are considered bagging tracks! This was a really fun video My menality is that tracks with lots of off-road (Cheese Land, Kalamari Desert) are bagging tracks, and straightforward tracks (Maple Treeway, Rainbow Road) are frontrunning tracks?

[@StocksNShares]

This brings back memories of me giving my mates 10 seconds head start, them not realising me getting 2-3 bullet bills more than makes up for that, especially when you hold the 2nd one, to get mid position before you use it for almost guaranteed first.

[@weilfug]

Jperm is that you??

[@jacobhearn6761]

I've been waiting for this collab, now we just need redfalcon

[@difnsl]

What an underrated guy, the skill is just insane

[@supersquat]

Oh wow amazing collab!!

[@jomp7409]

Love your vids man!

[@deshawn1211]

It’s always a good day when shortcat uploads!

[@marikmeier5605]

Haven't watched the video but the Idea is already phenomenal

[@anthonyuriarte3949]

I love these collabs ❤

[@MXK_BS]

Mk8 shorcat videos in the evening , always the best

[@HelloThere-xx4nx]

Love the uploads keep it up!

[@shadowlucario7125]

i love this competition and how it takes things to the extreme, but obviously its better to have a more dynamic and fluid play style, and change strategy on the fly depending on the situation

[@captain1148]

Ayo I swear last I checked you were at like 30k subs, now you close nearly 120k... 1mil subs soon I'm calling it

[@hamstalord35]

He has 1.68 million subs on jperm

[@Lunuria]

I didn't play Mario kart in 4 years but i still watched every of your Video and prob will watch every in the future

[@perk2469]

It made my day to see Shortcat Troy video!

[@brandonruiz845]

Love the video bro, keep it up

[@X4R80]

Let's gooo troy and jperm collab

[@SelusetYes]

a new shortcat x troy collab, really excited for the new vid!

[@Lumin298]

I love for you to use King Boo mainly. I can feel your love to it 😂

[@Kakkemans]

Thanks for the advice with the GBA Mario circuit bill extension! I was always using it wike i was doing the shortcut!

[@zombies741]

Before you started your channel I 1v1 my friend and lost but when I started watching your videos I got better yesterday I did it again and beat him in all 8 races thank you shortcat

[@Gladiator6]

Love short cat he deserves to be the best mk8d channel ever

[@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440]

Fire video as always but I love this concept

[@Happypancake297]

Your videos are so good. Keep it going🎉🎉🎉

[@nickcarmine1119]

Very brave of Shortbag to show up for this video.

[@Anchovypresents]

You are so good at Mario kart, short perm!

[@eddycoool]

It’s always a good day when Shortcat uploads 🤩

[@dierenvriendrex7137]

the vid was really really fun and i have an question i like to edit vids (still new to editing) do you edit your vids or someone else??? form: your biggest fan

[@shapesbb]

Whate hell, i didnt know that whomp shortcut, thats crazy

[@Shortcat321]

The whomp hop on berlin byways clip is on 200cc. Idk if it only works on 200cc, never actually tried it.

[@ryanlawson7885]

Two goats of the mario cart community comming together. What a beautiful day

[@Mrnoob7013]

To be honest you and Jp is my fav mario kart youtubers

[@mangocuber]

Y’all should do a Rubik’s cube race on rainbow road

[@CharlieMk8]

14:55 Be Like: "And I set fire, to Shortcat..."

[@LittleMissGrosser]

Great video, guys!

[@bonthecuber]

this was interesting GREAT VID!!!!

[@No1Noz]

*Thanks for these videos. You guys have legitimately upped my MK8 online game significantly. Do you have a video or a website where you break down the overall stats and suggestions for best combos and tips/tricks, all in one place? Maybe something I could download as a PDF or just save for offline?

[@xFreSh999_]

Baggers is our word. You can call us baggas tho.

[@user-bo6fx8lx2c]

You taught me how to bag thank you shortcat

[@pokeguitaristjake6300]

Jokes aside at the end of the video, the score was pretty even, looks like I'm gonna have to do research on which courses are Bagging Tracks and which courses are Front Running Tracks, I love Troy, always happy to see Troy in a collab video, obviously love Short Cat too 🎉🥳 Thanks for getting me back into Mario Kart 8 guys!!!

[@chasesolari4482]

Fellow frontrunner here, I would just like to say I respect those who bag, but I have sworn to never bag. Why? Because Mario Kart hates me, and after 5 straight races of pulling double single mushrooms in 12th, I kinda gave up and went back to what I was good at... driving. 😅

[@radicallyred]

Any day shortcat uploads is a good day

[@CitryteYT]

I love this video so much, the climactic finale of 6-6 with you bagging and troy running is perfect. I'd like to know how you got in a lobby with troy, like did you make a room, or is there a way to do worldwide with someone else?

[@Shortcat321]

When your friend (on the switch) is playing in a worldwide, you can join their room. It's under the worldwide/regional options

[@Lamellae]

*finishes daisy cruiser* "this is one of the top frontrunning tracks in the game, 3rd is really good!" *proceeds to get n64 rainbow road*