Bahco VS Mora Hardness Test

[@Snarlacc]

Hultafors also offers stainless knives and these outperform the Moras as well (both stainless and carbon, Hultafors carbon is in between Moras stainless and carbon) (EDIT: The Hultafors' hardness is similar to the Mora - don't have a hardness tester so stainless don't scratch stainless, carbon don't scratch carbon). Edge retention depends a lot on what you use it for. Working with wood apex stability matters more than actual abrasion resistance, so the carbon outperforms the stainless when both have the same edge geometry (the edges get rolled a lot easier on the stainless), cutting abrasive things like rope or cardboard the stainless wins because of its higher abrasion resistance (though the 12C27 isn't that much more abrasion resistant) something like 440C with its big, hard carbides would be a definate step up. The 12C27 lends itself to a finer edge though making it better for carving than 440C. The Hultafors are alledgedly AUS-8, they also take a fine edge but for me outperform the Moras by a good margin in either use case, on wood and on cardboard. In the end I could be wrong though since I never go so far that the knives don't cut paper anymore.

[@vladakostic010]

Great video, big effort 👏 Did you check Bacho 2446? I'm interested how it will perform.

[@bushcraftingmuslim]

I think you're spot on with the multiple sharpening leading to better edge retention. I'm pretty sure it was an old cliff stamp article I read years ago that talked about over heating at the edge from the factory and that several significant resharpenings were needed to hit the true potential of the steel, and that a significant increase in edge retention resulted. I am tempted to buy two brand new bahco moras (who can have too many?) And testing edge retention after multiple sharpenings... Thanks for the video. Reminds me of the KZbin golden age with solid info and no fluff on unnecessary fancy shots etc. Subscribed!

[@DominikChmiel-mp8ch]

Jaki będzie lepszy nóż od tego bacho 1446 w tej samej cenie lub trochę droższe? Jakie modele

[@Stantube1000]

Great test! Quite interesting results we see there. I've heard that factory high speed machine sharpening overheats the steel close to the edge, which leads to quite significant loss of hardness in that area, the factory edge doesn't hold up well because of that. The more you use and resharpen the knife, the better it holds the edge. May I ask in which area of the blade exactly did you measure the hardness? Was it far away off the edge?

[@dplusa]

Thanks, I'm glad you like the video. I'm familiar with that so I re-sharpened each knife before the test regardless of whether they were already sharp. However, of course it could not remove a significant amount of material. I think it can be seen on the video. The place where the hardness was measured is circled with a marker. I tried to make it close to the edge, but it's not really possible for technical reasons

[@Stantube1000]

@@dplusa Great, I see the circles now. Anyways, it was just my guess of why the softest Chinese steel held up better... I've read lots of rumors over the recent years, that Mora steels (both Sandvik and C100 ) are a lot softer than they claim. I think they claim that Sandvik is 56-58 and I read somewhere it is no more than 54-55, as some people measured it. Nice to know that Sandvik steel HRC is close to what Morakniv claim, even if it's quite clear the hardness may vary slightly from batch to batch. The same is true for their carbon steel C100, your result if well within 58-60 they claim. I put a lot of trust in your measurements and the results obtained, thanks a lot for for that!

[@dplusa]

@@Stantube1000 you are welcome. I am glad that rope cuting was of some use 😁. I will continue with the tests.

[@agbl1195]

Thank you so much for the vedio, may i ask who the best here please ?

[@dplusa]

You are welcome. I am glad you like video. Personally I would avoid carbon despite popular opinions . Its just a question would you like to have 2 Bahco 2444 or 1 Mora Companion 🙂

[@DominikChmiel-mp8ch]

Jaki jest rodzaj stali w 1446?