Balancing Properties Pt 4 | Fixing For Honor

[@the_knightcatTTv]

I love unblockables. As a warden main, it's the only thing I have. 😅

[@thedapperrat]

The pain of wanting Warden to have more, but to also be left untouched I feel is shared by all who play him

[@MvpSxlty]

Ur bash mix is better

[@bigzachonem]

I've always imagined warden with undodgeable side finishers but idk@@thedapperrat

[@thedapperrat]

@@bigzachonem don't really think that would change anything about his kit though

[@Definitely_not_a_bot69420]

Top two things that need changing: feats and undodgeable (remove undodgeable and make better hitbox)

[@pruha9603]

Good vid

[@ExoticDva]

There is a way to not play into someone’s Ub mixup when having them on your external. Simply just dodge away from them while not locked onto them and delay a dodge attack. Chars with long side dodges and added distance on their dodge attack (zerk is insane) are especially good at this.

[@thedapperrat]

Normally I'd agree but with almost the entire cast having a chase dodge, the mixups done with UBs are still viable. At least at my skill level.

[@spacemonkey9000]

Damn the pole amd staff heros need nerfs not buffs on their lights

[@RadxPLord]

On paper traps are op, but I feel like they land 20% of the time. People either just dodge light you out, or they can just throw a gb and reset to neutral

[@Athaeme]

Or throw a top heavy

[@RadxPLord]

@@Athaeme you can do that too? That blows

[@The_Dodge_Meister]

you can also emote nuxia traps to make them useless fun fact@@RadxPLord

[@ExoticDva]

They are strong but to utilize them correctly you need to hard feint more than you commit a trap. Plus the fact they chain on whiff will catch certain dodge attacks.

[@LeGabrielMan]

I hated for honor then i stopped playing warden.

[@josephliscombe4300]

Just when i need a good video to watch I see a dapper rat video day saved. Ad blocker turned off.

[@Professor_POVFH]

Putting UBs as a bad anti ganking tool is wild. They are borderline the most important property as to stall and anti gank you NEED to hit people with externals to deal any sort of good dmg

[@thedapperrat]

it's definitely better to have them than to not have them in an Anti-gank but they aren't needed from what I've seen. Their benefit for the most part is minimal compared to just regular attacks. Target Swapping and Hero Placement are much more deciding factors than whether or not someone has an UB. Not to mention the benefit you get from an UB in a Duel and in a Gank are way stronger by comparison, although I'd say there can be an argument made for Teamfights.

[@cryptosking9660]

i see where you are coming from and yes UBs are a generall tool everyone should have them, since they are what is putting putting preasure on opponents, but with the often wanky hitboxes of for Honor, and the fact that you cant (consitently) defend against them from external, they are in anti gank just as powerfull as in duells. Since they also force the enemy to make space and increase the risk of ganking. as i said i understand your point and the final conclusion that UBs should be universal to everyone is in my opionion correct, i just find it unreasonable to rate them for anti gank so low... or teamfights... @@thedapperrat

[@ahhhsothisishowyouchangean162]

I mean normally realistically speaking it is really situational for it to work,

[@Pro_Edgelord]

U haven't suggested a balance change for 4 parts. This series is unnecessary cause anyone that cares about balancing knows what each property does

[@thedapperrat]

Simply wasn't viable for me to do it all in one video and despite how long a game has been out it's always important to cater to knew players. The actual changes I'd like to see are coming in part 5, The Series Finale

[@Pro_Edgelord]

@@thedapperrat oh ok, I misunderstood the concept

[@Pro_Edgelord]

@@thedapperrat oh ok, I misunderstood the concept

[@menalgharbwalsharq648]

Just to avoid new players to be mislead, unblockables are not 50/50. There is a clear timing that is reactable and safe to parry, everybody experience it at least from time to time when you're fresh and awake. There is technically no read to be made against UB because it just require to press the button at the right timing. Now we call everything 50/50 but if you train enough and keep calm in a fight, UB we be way more manageable because it's a simple timing thing. By calling simple UB mixups 50/50 we mislead people into believing that heroes with unblockables are poker machine that you have to guess all the time but that's not true. Warden is a 50/50 hero because of his bash mixup way more than his UB finishers

[@thedapperrat]

The reason I called it a 50/50 is because you can feint it. Maybe I have a complete misunderstanding of what a 50/50 is but the game technically is made up of them and this isn't inherently bad. You say train enough but 0 amount of training stops an unblockable from being a 50/50. It isn't a human mechanical issue its a mind issue, an unblockable forces you to read your opponent, a mind game on whether to parry or not. It's also possible that I didn't get this point across properly in my video of which then I apologize for the incorrect information.

[@menalgharbwalsharq648]

@thedapperrat you are not wrong because you can parry Outside of the right parry timing, so I the middle of a fight it's hard af to react to the parry flash. So a lot of time you get caught pressing heavy before the parry flash and you are vulnerable to gb. But technically, there is this parry timing that is 100% safe, this is the first thing they teach you in the tutorial of the game when you fight this warlord bot lol. I will always remember this it was hard af. Before when there was not so much ub everywhere and before the marching fire update when everything was slower, the only true 50/50 was warden bash pretty much. Because these charged bash force you to make a decision no matter how good reaction you have (although some people are able to make the difference) So all in all, saying it's 50/50 is not wrong in the current meta, but this make new player say that a hero like pirate force you to make read all the time while they should rather train to react to the indicator and it would make their life much easier

[@thedapperrat]

@@menalgharbwalsharq648 I didn't know that the feint to GB window stopped at the flash indicator so that's complete news to me. Even then to be able to be enough of a reaction monster to not only focus enough to react to the parry indicator but also be aware and ready to Counter GB is insane to me and I don't think is viable for a lot of the player base. That being said if what you're saying is true then yeah I'd change my stance to say unblockables aren't a 50/50

[@ExoticDva]

@@thedapperratHigh level duels are like a new game.

[@thedapperrat]

I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing tbh. It's good see have a goal to progress towards but often balancing for the better smaller minority of players ruins the experience for the majority and vice versa. Hopefully a conclusion can be reached to satisfy both sides@@ExoticDva

[@yallnotlikedatirl6623]

I’m new to this game but ummmm Eff wormangander mains Eff roach mains Just leaving this here 🤏