Baldur's Gate 3 Epilogue - Gale dead, Raphael has the crown

[@Kook_604]

"to think I believed godhood was worth losing all this..." absolutely heartbreaking

[@GentleBreeze-72]

That's why in my first playthrough i was so angry at gale. Because of that phrase. I was crying my ass off and yet i was like: u'r a moron. I still love him. Hella good character

[@dylancastellanos87]

There's an alternative. After trying to kiss the projection, he quietly says "....I can see why I loved you." And after he disappears, you fall to your knees.

[@Lrbearclaw]

Shit. I LOVE how META the last bit is. He's not talking to Tav. He is talking to YOU.

[@roseabee7503]

Right!? Talk about breaking the fourth wall. lol

[@gateauxq4604]

Raphael coming to my house and I’m not sure if Im delighted or terrified. In a different version of the ending he talks about his next chance for the crown being in another millennia and says ‘you will be gone,’ heavily implying that he will get the crown after the player, not Tav, is dead. He is so deliciously creepy.

[@amandarachels]

NGL I bought the game for Raphael…Hell, I bought a computer for the game so I’m in about 3k for that devilish bastard. I regret nothing!

[@thedoctor323]

Raphael can bring it. I've got unlimited potential avatars akin to gods of destruction to bring to bear against anything he can muster. He doesn't want the smoke after I ended him in his own house in six seconds, lol

[@korgclips868]

⁠@@thedoctor323Especially when we outrank Ao just by existing & can quite literally replay any scenario repeatedly until we reach a satisfactory conclusion

[@JinxedPixie88]

GOD Raphael is such a Disney villain, I love him so much

[@Hekatean20089]

He even has his own music

[@mkeller7881]

This is incredibly well written and acted, the look on your Tavs face and the way he held the letter were amazing. And you know there are very few players who would actually go this route but they still gave it 100%. I love this game and Larian.

[@IrisGlowingBlue]

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[@korgclips868]

I think the requirements to get an ending like this is either finishing the game without completing his personal quest and/or not allowing him to have the book of Karsus in his inventory up until the ending. I wasn’t sure at first but after going through the game my Gale was alive & present as a God and even offered my Durge a seat alongside him in the heavens (If you romance him) By skipping out on his personal quest or by not having the annals of Karsus on hand, Gale isn’t properly educated on reforging the crown nor will he be proficient enough in the actual Ascension rituals, not having the proper info results in a shoddy developed ritual; with in-proper insulation (So to speak) combined with Potent energies of the Crown will destabilize the Orb within his chest, detonating while he’s in the process of divine ascension.

[@_l4d2_alexmiller94]

It made me cry very loudly, I feel empty..especially when your character hugged a copy of Gale.... and couldn't hug...his face..broken with sadness...I'm crying.

[@broadwaystar2b]

There have been some ugly cry moments of these epilogue variants and this is one of them

[@DSJWIX]

It’s more sad if you romanced him and did the deal with Raphael or had him sacrifice himself to kill the brain, your tav will try to kiss his projection but can’t and Gale will respond that he can see why he loved you.

[@broadwaystar2b]

@@DSJWIX🥺😢😭

[@_l4d2_alexmiller94]

@@DSJWIX Now I'm crying even harder and louder.

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

I don't how anybody can like Gale so much, the guy loves and wants only himself! Even Asta who is a sadistic vampire is less self-centered than Gale..

[@ollie2596]

The 'Pspspsp' option took me out 💀

[@IrisGlowingBlue]

Tara is so sad and so Cute I want to pet her ;v;

[@jassibella5415]

Idk what's sadder this dialogue or the one where he sacrificed himself and says "How fortunate I was, to know someone like you" like my god. I don't think we talk about how well written Gale is. Like he may seem like he is overly flirty if you aren't romancing him but that is just his awkward charm if anything else. If you are romancing him, it's like a rabbit hole. Gale might be the most romantic character out of the party (at least to me) he does everything so grand for you to show you he loves you which makes him dying so sad. I love this damn game 😭

[@scottlarmore5038]

I say this as a irl straight guy, Gale is definitely one of the top romances in this game. Everything you said is on point, Gale is a deep and rich character. They really did a great job with this game, and deserve all the praise they’ve gotten.

[@jassibella5415]

Yes I got into the gmae throught Astarion and Karlach clips and when I forst made my party I hadd those 3 in it. During the gameplay I thought he was funny and a little flirty so I pause my save and made a new for him and I instantly fell for his charms. Gale is so loving and expresses his love to big it makes your heart melt.@@scottlarmore5038

[@ImElliePaige]

wait, how do you get the "how fortunate i was, to know someone like you." line?

[@jassibella5415]

You get that dialogue if your affinity with him is high, but you guys are just friends. He also has to not choose to become a god. Like let him blow himself up and when you got talk to his projection and choose the "Hug him" option and he'll say that line. It kills me every time. 😭@@ImElliePaige

[@ImElliePaige]

@@jassibella5415 stoppp that’s devastating 😭 id give Gale the world if I could (as long as he didn’t become a power hungry, arrogant, douche because of it)

[@whiteraven562]

I love these Raphael scense, but I really wish he attended the Epilogue party. I'd love to talk to him again

[@baval5]

He can, in at least one set of events. Very briefly.

[@ladonmccabe]

​@@baval5 No way! Care to fill us in? Or is it when he shows up to threaten Gale God?

[@galacticfirefly]

​​​@@ladonmccabeYes Raphael shows up when Gale is a god. He threatens gale to hand over the Crown, but Gale shuts Raphael up and teleports him back to hell. But Raphael accepts it, cuz he knows what Ambition is all about and that it will lead to a Catastrophic War between Gods. So in Raphael's words: When Heaven and the Gods fall, he will take the crown from its Ashes.

[@mattc9598]

@@galacticfirefly for all we know this was just Raphael throwing a tantrum because he didn't get what he wanted.

[@Asgaardiangatekeeper]

​@@mattc9598Time moves different for immortals, let alone in Avernus. Dude said he raged for about 20 years over the crown. He can probably wait a century or so to snatch it up.

[@rsrocha1984]

I like the end I got for Gale. He gives up the crown to Mystra and becomes a teacher. He seem truly happy. In my end the only companion that dont sound very Happy is Karlach. Cant have everything I guess.

[@elenalizabeth]

Why does Karlach sound unhappy? I thought as long as she was with Wyll then she was happy-ish fighting Zariels army, she even says they found Zariels forge and are going to try to fix her heart.

[@TigrexHunter95]

​@@elenalizabethProb is squid Karlach

[@Emilytea]

I havent even romanced Gale yet and Id never let him die but oh my god im CRYING

[@Mistardmuster]

this is heartbreaking thank you for uploading so quickly. can you actually read the letter?

[@vizionara]

You can read the letter! The link to the letter in the description if you want to read it

[@kaiserium8551]

@@vizionara God damn that's also heartbreaking

[@Call-me-Creeds]

I... Raphael! Don't break the 4th wall! It makes me feel funny... 😂

[@dominika3762]

Oh, in my first ending Gale became a god. I killed Raphael. I wonder is this just the difference of leaving Raphael alive? Or did you have to promise to give him the crown?

[@walkinmist9818]

I think this is leaving Raphael alive. If you promised him the crown. Gale will still become God but Raphael could not get to the crown because it is within Gale's domain.

[@humandoodad]

Yeah, I'm not sure what triggers this. I had the deal with Raphael and Gale became a god even though I passed a Persuasion Check during the final bit to tell him to not do it. And his tressym still lectured me about setting him on the path to godhood. I TRIED OKAY MA'AM. Maybe I just did too many "well it's your choice" options leading up to it. But stuff felt a bit buggy during my final sequences so who knows.

[@Kamon181]

@@humandoodad Yeah, the ending is definitely a little bugged. In mine Minsc had been captured by the Zhents after they took over the underground even though I helped Nine Fingers slaughter them all in spectacular fashion, so I was a little annoyed that they did my boy dirty.

[@serrasedai]

​@@Kamon181 I had the same bug! I helped Nine Fingers but Minsc said the Zhantarim had him in prison. I also tried to talk down Gale but he became a god anyway, done know what happened with that.

[@koshu4]

yeah, that cant be right. there’s an ending video here where Gale ascends successfully to become god of ambition and Raphael shows up to whinge about not getting the crown as per deal. however, that’s a romance ending. surely romance can’t be the differentiator, can it?

[@fhernok]

2:35 I don't quite remember how I got this ending in my last playthrough. Gale and my Tav had a rather good relationship with one another- completely platonic by the way. But in the end after defeating the Netherbrain, he was still hellbent on going after the crown after it fell into the water. I broke the contract between Raph and I so he couldn't get the crown, so my ending was a little different to this one the way it played out wise. But my point is: I accidentally failed a dice roll to convince him to give the crown to mystra (I don't remember how to get that option in the post-deafeated netherbrain conversation, because the playthrough i did AFTER that playthrough I got different dialogue options, even with the same relationship status. But I digress. I pretty much failed to convince him to give it to Mystra, and he got all salty and said that I didn't believe in him yada yada, which, fair enough, I was practically telling him to give up lmao. So yeah Gale just completely disregards all that we, including our party had gone through to get to the final endgame and saunters off to go and either find the crown or make a new one on his own? I don't remember what it was, but it's either of those. So then comes the epilogue party, where I see a hologram of Gale rather than his physical self. Why? He's dead, the hologram states, just as this video shows. It was the same outcome but for different circumstances I believe (and here I am remembering the "17000 endings to baldur's gate"). This part in particular broke me; not being able to hug gale as a final goodbye, and even seeing that, although it's a pre-recorded sort of hologram, it still portrays that sorrow after failing to comfort Tav and give them a hug. I couldn't wrap my head around this part man. I love gale, and hearing word from a hologram that he was dead just h u r t. And the LOOK ON TAV'S FACE WHEN HE SAID THOSE FINAL WORDS BRAH. "And to think godhood was worth losing all of this" NAHHHH this shit had me SOBBING. and the letter bro, don't even get me started

[@koshu4]

What's the lore on why Gale detonates in this route? He succeeds in some others. Unclear if it's something Raphael does, something Mystra does, or something Gale gets wrong.

[@Narokh]

You have the option to essentially skip the final boss fight when Gale is with you and have him blow up after sending you away.

[@walkinmist9818]

RAPHAEL KILLED GALE!!!!? Bastard!

[@gateauxq4604]

It sounds like the orb blew up while Gale was trying to ascend to the heavens and Raphael was just there for the show.

[@MoonsongReverb]

I still could never let him die. Gale is too funny. I like him 😅 So no matter if romanced or just friends i always kept him alive even through killing the Netherbrain ❤

[@elongatedsedation324]

Question: What are the requirements for getting this ending?

[@Sylverknight0222]

This is a guess but I suppose : - accept Raphael's deal - beat the absolute without detonating gale - convince gale to get the crown and achieve godhood

[@korgclips868]

@@Sylverknight0222 thats only if you don’t let him have to book of karsus in the ending, my Gale had the annals of Karsus & in the epilogue he was alive and well as a God

[@IrisGlowingBlue]

Man this feels,, probably-unintentionally cruel on Withers part. Imagine trying to mourn someone for six months and then SURPRISE Game is good! Game is good. Thanks for uploading~

[@CosmicCh3f]

I think my game glitched. I killed Rhapael and yet I got this ending???

[@StewOxThePower]

I had the same problem, must be a bug, it was still cool to see but I was a bit confused

[@nobuffer101]

I wonder what happens if you take Raphael's deal but decide to blow up the crown anyway. It would probably be the biggest middle finger to a devil other than outright killing them in their own home after insulting their... preferences. Edit: I assume this video is what happens Gale takes the crown and tries to usurp Mystra instead of blowing himself up.

[@juhakeranen3225]

I have been wondering why Raphael looks and sounds like sheogorath. Did developers get inspirstions from elderscsolls because couple voice lines matches perfectly to sheogoraths voice lines.

[@PossibleBat]

Damn your Tav looks dreamy ❤

[@vizionara]

I got this ending, but my Gale glitched out so I couldn't talk to him or get that letter! Please tell us what the letter reads.

[@sungrave]

Added the link to the letter

[@vizionara]

@@sungrave Thank you, much appreciated!!!

[@Voitan]

Come on Larian, make Raphael's death non-canon. Make him the next villain is a sequel! 😭

[@JinxedPixie88]

@@RainbowFrogger Avernus and Cania are both part of the Nine Hells. Quote the monster manual "Devils that die in the Nine Hells are destroyed forever - a fate that even Asmodeus fears." So no, Raphael is dead-dead if slain in Avernus

[@JinxedPixie88]

@@RainbowFrogger I'm just going off of what the 5e ruleset says.

[@korgclips868]

@@JinxedPixie88 Could very well be the case, there could be the possibility that he originates from another hell, and later would construct his house in avernus, If Raphael’s big daddy is Mephistopheles its entirely possible he’s in cania as we speak, having his skin flayed by his father or some other devil. Raphael would like to talk a big game but even if he isn’t fully dead, his “death” will cause him more suffering and anguish as he’s demoted and tossed into a pit that he’ll have to claw & bite his way through if he ever wants to get close to the level of power he once had

[@RaFineZZ]

Why did the orb detonate, when Gale was half way to heaven in this ending?

[@aorekagaming412]

I never hit Load so fast in my life!

[@sparviere6535]

how gale can became a god and not be killed by mystra?

[@rabatacebulowa]

Crown

[@KrazedHeroYT]

He doesn't take over the Weave but instead uses the crown successfully to achieve godhood as the god of ambition

[@TheSilkKing1]

Becoming a god isn’t the issue. Plenty of mortals have done this. None of them as great of a wizard as Karsus was. (At least I think.) Karsus’ biggest mistake was trying to usurp Mystral who IS all magic. Usurping Mystra was the worst possible outcome for Karsus because when she died, it was not possible to take her place. If he had ascended to become the god of ambition or learning or anything else, it probably would have worked. Gale learned from the mistake in the ending where he doesn’t try to usurp mystra and get backhanded.

[@joripien]

I just played through my epilogue after finishing the game a few months ago and I have to say... there could not have been a more perfect ending for me. Throughout my game, Gale was something of a philosophical rival to my character, we'd get into many arguments and often didn't see eye to eye, and in the end I was unable to convince him to drop his megalomaniacal quest for power. It was a bittersweet yet fitting ending to this version of Gale to hear that very quest has become his downfall in the end as my character tried to warn him it would... And just as I thought I'd seen the last of what this campaign had to offer me... that bonus post credits scene. Now, I dealt with Raphael for the hammer but went to the house of hope to betray him and kill him, so I don't know if it's a bug that I got this ending or not, but personally I love it. It makes sense for a character like him to be difficult to truly kill I think, and him being alive in the end and in possession of the crown is the perfect narrative foil to my character who believed herself to have come out on top over every adversary she faced with no consequences to the risks she took throughout her journey... It all just fit together so perfectly I jumped out of my chair in excitement.

[@RealLockheedMartin]

I hope Raphael getting the Crown is canon just so we get a line in some random novel explaining that his dad effortlessly dicked on him for attempting to rise above his station and Asmodeus didn't even have to twitch a finger. Like buddy if Mephistopheles didn't use the damn thing to usurp Asmodeus what hope do you have?

[@Whisper-1020]

Noooo 😢😢😢 How did you get this ending?

[@rabatacebulowa]

Deal with Raphael to get Hammer for Crown + Convincing Gale to took crown (probably talk after Mystra that he should take crown for himself). But even if he wants to give Mystra crown, then Raphael kills him. Its just result of deal with raphael + talking crown. Idk what happened if you tell him to ignore crown. Anyway, not make deals with devils. I recommend to visit his House of Hope

[@raydaveed]

​@@rabatacebulowaI don't think that is correct because i saw one ending when gale becomes a god and has to give the crown to raphael but tricks him in return. Meaning they still make the deal.

[@rabatacebulowa]

@@raydaveed I saw it also. Looks like Tav romanced God-Gale so devs make this ending only for romance option - to not kill gale out of screen by raphael

[@koshu4]

I saw that one too, so it can’t be so simple. Romance option surely doesn’t affect whether Gale succeeds or not, so there must be something else. I half expected his explosion in this one to be caused by trying to usurp Mystra instead of becoming the god of ambition, but that isn’t made clear here.

[@rabatacebulowa]

@@koshu4 I asked video owner. He killed Raphael, thats why he appeared in demonic body

[@Floweramon]

So what is the difference between this end and the end where Gale becomes a God? What were the different choices made?

[@SimsbyShiveria]

Maybe killing raphael?

[@sungrave]

it was an old save where I left some things unfinished. I think we didn't get his book

[@rabatacebulowa]

Killing raphael instead deal with him. It will every time ends Killing gale if he will take crown (for becoming god or for giving back to Mystra)

[@Floweramon]

@@rabatacebulowa That can't be right, I killed Raphael and Gale was fine in my epilogue, he ended up being a magic teacher and everything

[@rabatacebulowa]

@@Floweramon i mean killing raphael is diffrence between becoming god or dying. If you kill - gale can be god or tracher (crown is with Mystra). If you deal with raphael and gale reach crown - for him or mystra - its instant dead. Now its ok?

[@sheepgrass500]

I almost cried 😭😭😭😭😭

[@Bellaa1021]

How do you get this ending? I’ve seen a different ending where Gale becomes a god even though you pledged the crown to Raphael, and they butt heads over it. Not sure what choices need to be made to get this ending though! Raphael is such a well-written villain

[@korgclips868]

If Gale has the Annals of Karsus in his inventory in the end he will be a god, confirmed i just finished second play through and i was worried romancing him but he was well and alive & took my durge to ascend to Godhood alongside him

[@korgclips868]

if he doesn’t have the book in his inventory he won’t be able to properly harness the crown & the orb will detonate before he can become a god

[@purin10028]

How did you get this event to happen?

[@silverwizardess7921]

But... but what did the letter say? 🥺

[@thearoy3338]

Wait how does this scene happen? Do you need to make a deal with Raphael and then let Gale take the crown?

[@realhectorcastillo]

What are the conditions for him actually ascending? Taking the crown but NOT challenging Mystra? I convinced him to not take it, so didn't see this one.

[@korgclips868]

Nope, just finished a play through & i encouraged him to Usurp Mystra; the actual requirements for an ending like this is either finishing the game without completing his personal quest and/or not allowing him to have the book of Karsus in his inventory up until the ending. I wasn’t sure at first but after going through the game my Gale was alive & present as a God and even offered my Durge a seat alongside him in the heavens (If you romance him) By skipping out on his personal quest or by not having the annals of Karsus on hand, Gale isn’t properly educated on reforging the crown nor will he be proficient enough in the actual Ascension rituals, not having the proper info results in a shoddy developed ritual; with in-proper insulation (So to speak) combined with Potent energies of the Crown will destabilize the Orb within his chest, detonating while he’s in the process of divine ascension.

[@bi_smth]

Whats ur Tav head mod? Hes so handsome

[@OtakuExtreme25]

Faces of fayrun

[@sungrave]

no mods, a vanilla half-elf

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

I'm an egomaniac with delusions of grandeur and even I know far better then repeat Karsus Folly, dammit Gale come on bro! In my play through I'd have killed Gale before letting him repeat that mistake, but I'm not judging anyone for role playing their own choices I'm just preparing to play a Netherese Wizard descendant in my groups next D&D game so the idea of any Wizard doing this is nearly offensive, nearly; I might have to try it in a play through.

[@agirlnamedmichael1670]

There are other endings now...and not all are what you'd assume ;)

[@raydaveed]

He actually can become a god now in one of the ending. Serves you right for not believing in him. Haters. 😂

[@rsrocha1984]

​@@raydaveedwell, if Karsus had choose any God other than Mystra when he casted Kardus Avatar it would have work.

[@galaxychar]

@@raydaveedYeah, we’ll see how that works out for him lmao.

[@fitzyizgood]

I went back and did my final battle for my first playthrough real quick. Gale went god mode, I pretty much threw astarion and lae'zel in the corner so she went on to be a diplomat apparently and astarion is just scared of the vampie boi i didnt feel like killing. me n shadowheart went to have a farm, wyll is a hero, and karlach is dead as hell. what a bittersweet ending

[@elenalizabeth]

Why is your Karlach dead? 😕

[@Nerd704]

@@elenalizabeth For Karlach to live you have to send someone WITH her and you're only options are the player character (which could also be any of the origins) or blade of avernus wyll. So if you free wyll from his pact and don't romance karlach her only options are explode or mindflayer. I don't know why Karlach's endings are worse than just about everyone else's.

[@Macabrellian]

@@Nerd704 Interestingly, Wyll still became the Blade of Avernus after I encouraged him to break his pact. Says he isn't too shabby as a ranger if you ask how he's been faring with Karlach without his warlock abilities.

[@HeadDetectiveLassie]

​@@Nerd704I helped break Wyll's pact, saved his dad just to defy Mizora, and helped him decide to become the Blade of Avernus. He volunteers to go with Karlach at the end as a ranger rather than a warlock.

[@Nerd704]

@@HeadDetectiveLassie Okay I thought that Wyll was the one who provided the portal to avernus but maybe the diabloist was just out of frame in that scene.

[@alphahunterd]

how did you destroy the crown?

[@sungrave]

my mistake, it was "destroyed the tadpoles" in my head

[@AlexisTheDragon]

Dude, what exactly is raphael talking about tbh? That crown is strong. Do the devs not know the lore of D&D, a god isn't the strongest thing in D&D, and gods can be challenged, and there are varying degrees of power in god types, like one greater deity could be FAR stronger than another greater deity for example. But how strong can It really make you? Clearly more than a demigod, perhaps, a lesser deity? An intermediately deity? Maybe, but I doubt it. Maybe a greater deity at extreme most, but that is pushing it, HARD, to ridiculous degrees. Asmodeus is a greater deity, and demogorgon was literally able to fight and dominate all of the abyss, and all the other demon lords (who have been known to challenge all levels of gods and at least threaten but lose/rival/win battles againt them) alone. Known to be one of the strongest beings in creation before he even became a deity, it was said at one point he made the heavens and all the gods in them tremble as he's one of the few came the closest to conquering/destroying all life. He became a deity being so strong that he literally started getting worshipped multiverse wide that it gave him a divine template (intermediate deity, aswell devouring the queen of chaos for her divine portfolio, and he was wiping god tier beings before he even got that) So yeah, that crown isn't gonna do as much as you think it will for you, sure you'll step over most of the players in the universe, you'll be a force to be reckoned with, and be monumentally more powerful, maybe even take over a non-contested plane of existence on the abyss. But you aren't taking over all the nine hells, and you aren't taking on Asmodeus, let alone all of the nine hells and the 8 other arch devils, he's gonna backhand you and curb stomp you.

[@TheSilkKing1]

You’re trying to look at this objectively. Which I feel is the wrong approach. Raphael isn’t telling you what is going to happen. He’s telling you what he expects to happen. But he is proud and arrogant. That makes him likely to overlook things. He also has an incentive to lie to us after all, we went back on his deal. Now, Raphael might actually believe everything he’s telling us and not just trying to scare us. But as you said, he will get in over his head very quickly. After all, in real life, how many kings, emperors, and generals thought they were immortal and unbeatable until reality hit them like a bullet?