Bale Density Study with Penn State University - Part 1

[@markdessert4077]

We made alfalfa baleage here in California 25 years ago with a vermeer 604 j with a silage kit. It worked well , some RFV tests at 275 and 28% crude protein. Our solid core haulage bales were so tight no existing mixers could deal with the bale density. Progress takes change. In our case dairy men thought we were trying to take advantage of them by selling more H2O. We also proved that high quality alfalfa does ensile properly at 40 to 50% moisture. One thing we understood was the need for better balers, the vermeer twisted a lot of belts !

[@double-h-farms]

It's nice that they do these studies but I'm sure to get more from one end you have to cut some off the other in some way.. get done faster and you get a less dense hay bale, get more dense hay bales you sacrifice time and fuel and parts are moving longer creating wear on the machines.. pick one

[@eoinoreilly9188]

Should have got a mchale fusion!

[@kimyoung1093]

I wish they would eliminate the influence of have a new Holland guy breathing down there neck the entire time, all I’m saying is don’t be shocked when new Holland just magically comes out on top

[@RobertWilliams82-22]

Y’all need to come down to south Louisiana and do y’all a testing on the hay down here where we have higher humidity and an overall wetter climate...

[@SlyFoxl]

you should get in talk to people in scandinavia about baling in an overall wet climate. baling has always been a big thing here and especially bale density

[@corgraveland4874]

Several interesting aspects around mainly bale density.

[@jackleigh4613]

To make solid I always bale silage with dew on it

[@SlyFoxl]

theres many factors that come into play. variable chamber baler or fixed, moisture, grass type, what stage its, size and width of a swath and cutting ++ a bale thats bale properly and dry wont lose its shape, a bale thats plenty of dry but has wet spots spread around in the swaths will be a good starting spot for rot during fermentation. to make a bale solid and firm with a fixed baler. it wont start to compress until the volume of the baler is full, the amount you feed into it after that will start compaction and you have to give it time to do its job, in other words slow down. variable chamber naturally acts different. you want as much forage into each bale, the cattle are getting their water elsewhere but theres a point where its too dry to eat in a sense. you can have top notch forage but the cattle wont eat it cause its too dry. no matter how good a bread is, you wont eat just plain bread for days, weeks. i see i got abit carried away here now so ill just end it here xD

[@jackleigh4613]

I have a krone Variable. No belts does beautiful bales of silage when there s a bit of dew on silage after 3 or 4 days drying. They hold shape better so better for wrapping On hot days you might only need 1. 2 days. This is just my experience after 40 years this year But windrow size and other factors can come into play

[@donmcdaniel2863]

How do we deal with the wrap after removed when fed? Now we have created a emmission issue and litter problem. I am not a green climate or environmental person, but there is more of it than net wrap.

[@timroberge1498]

The best advise you can give someone on baling silage is to use a European baler. The American built silage balers SUCK. Buy Kuhn, Krone or McHale with a processor. My Kuhn baler makes a bale 200-300lbs heavier than the NH I had.

[@disturbedcarrot]

True, the American ones are made for a drier and generally a lighter crop. McHale and Krone are 2 of the best.

[@4DModding]

Just get a mchale baler or a mchale fusion and dump the rest

[@justinpearce3598]

Are you using all the same tractor because I could ba a factor on the horsepower pulling it in and keeping that bale going at speed

[@googleuser4009]

Used to run New Holland and recently bought a John Deere, now we finally know what a baler is, it's got half the moving parts and makes a much nicer bale.

[@disturbedcarrot]

Apparently Krone is the next step

[@theclapetron6421]

does the john deere softare work on your new holland monitor

[@reinhardgeissler7486]

The best baler is from Krone

[@joseph-ur2ks]

wow this is so old news its got a grave stone. in Europe we all make silage, haylage bales or clamped silage for years. belt vairiable pressure balers make better silage or square bales make better silage. smaller windrows make better silage because it gives the baler more time to compress the air out

[@sandman8993]

Baleage? Americans 😆 silage in uk. Is silage a new thing in America?

[@Heatwood55]

Baleage means its in a bale silage silo makes sense haha we say that in new zealand aswell

[@gregkoenig9200]

It isn't nothing new but someone is always trying to reinvent the wheel. The form of storage is highly debated because of equipment investment

[@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9]

Got me some new kit 🤣🤣🤣we can laugh about your saying as well your bale- age a bale of silage makes more sense to me but hey are you allowed to make jokes across the pond or do you need a license for that 😆

[@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9]

@@gregkoenig9200 he was joking about the words but if we can't have a sense of humor we are way worse then I would have thought

[@gregkoenig9200]

@@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9 not that. What I laugh at is I've been around making silage 60 years and every Tom Dick and Harry thinks they have a better idea or way of doing a simple job.

[@larrycates7655]

Show me a hay field you can run 10 mph in . Lmao .

[@cherryfarms2135]

Have a lot of fields we mow and could bale at 10

[@Dave-ll6ei]

Not too many fields like that in the hills of Pennsylvania.