Balfour 100 years on: salvation or betrayal? - UpFront

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Күн бұрын

"One nation, solemnly promised to a second nation, the country of a third." That's how one writer famously described the Balfour Declaration - the declaration by then-British Foreign Minister Arthur Balfour, on November 2, 1917, that said, "His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people. [...]"
One hundred years later, the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians continues, with no sign of any sort of resolution. So, how central was the Balfour Declaration to later developments and what role did Britain play subsequently? And should the declaration be celebrated as the first step towards the establishment of the state of Israel and self-determination for the Jewish people, or decried as an act of betrayal by the British, who had also promised Palestine to the Arabs?
“The problem...with the Balfour Declaration is that whatever explanations we give, none of them justifies doing what was done in a country which was already inhabited,” says Ghada Karmi a British-Palestinian author and lecturer at Exeter University's Institute of Arab and Islamic studies. “That's the fundamental flaw in the Balfour Declaration. That is the fundamental issue in this whole story. That you're dealing with a country with an indigenous population. So, you cannot go and plant another people in such a country. It's very simple.”
“Yes, there were 700,000 Palestinian Arabs...but there were five and a half million desperate Jews who did not enjoy the citizenship rights of Western Europe,” says Martin Kramer an Israeli-American historian and founding president of Shalem College in Jerusalem. “If you say that Palestine is not their home, then what is their home? They are the eternal wanderers.”
For British journalist and former Middle East editor for the Guardian, Ian Black, the opposing views of the Balfour Declaration are irreconcilable.
“What's fascinating about it is that those two views are completely irreconcilable, which is why people who support Israel, Israelis, Zionists, many Jews are celebrating, and most Palestinians are indeed mourning and protesting...And in a way, it's an encapsulation of the deadlock at the heart of the continuing crisis,” says Black, who is also the author of a new book on the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict since the Balfour declaration, Enemies and Neighbours: Arabs and Jews in Palestine and Israel, 1917-2017.
In this UpFront special, we explore the centennial of the Balfour Declaration and discuss whether its legacy is one of salvation, injustice or betrayal.
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@theisisreincarnate
@theisisreincarnate 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing how the emphasis is made on saving Jewish lives but down plays the value of Palestinian lives
@talhatariqyuluqatdis
@talhatariqyuluqatdis 5 жыл бұрын
Why is your name that?
@friendlycreature6375
@friendlycreature6375 5 жыл бұрын
I had a guest inside my house, i gave him one room. Now he's claiming my kitchen and offering to me my own bathroom. I then refused his offer, he simply took control over all my house and kicked me out.
@Truth_Seeker1
@Truth_Seeker1 4 жыл бұрын
Falafelpump rosh Silly he's using what Israel did he does not actually mean he's house is being taken over.
@davidfrench6521
@davidfrench6521 3 жыл бұрын
I was living in my house and it was taken over by thieves, we were kicked out of our own house, when we returned there were squatters living there (Palestinians)as we were kind people we offered to split the house in 2, the squatters and there friends (6 Arab states) rejected this kind offer and tried to kill us... but they failed.
@RangaNayanajithSilva
@RangaNayanajithSilva 3 жыл бұрын
There is a Sri Lankan short story written by Miniwan P Tilakaratne caĺled "Kuhumbuwo" Ants in the English meaning the same theme carried.
@friendlycreature6375
@friendlycreature6375 3 жыл бұрын
@Servando Constantino de Jesus My origins are from Yemen, but more than a thousand year ago my grandfathers came to Algeria and here i was born. Now, do i have the right to go to Yemen right now and start claiming their land??? And if they refuse giving me back the places where my ancestors used to live centuries ago, I'll kick them out or kill them.
@nevinthephilippines
@nevinthephilippines 3 жыл бұрын
Was he a jew
@xandro2445
@xandro2445 4 жыл бұрын
If you notice, the professor never answered Ghada Karmi's question that she raised. All he did was make an emotional appeal to the suffering of the jewish people.
@crazyforcanada
@crazyforcanada 10 ай бұрын
So, brutalize another people! Anyway, Stalin gave the Jews a homeland in 1928, the Autonomous region of Birobidzhan, national language; Yiddish. The Jews had no cause to butcher the innocent Palestinians, they could always have gone to Birobidzhan..
@erikstekelenburg3020
@erikstekelenburg3020 9 ай бұрын
This professor is probably a Zionist. The woman destroyed him with simple logic. 👌
@Glenrok
@Glenrok 11 күн бұрын
@@crazyforcanada no. They couldn’t. Although some Jews DID take up the Russian offer- conditions there were so onerous and unfair they soon realised what a huge con it was. It was essentially a salve labour concentration camp for the benefit of the Russians- not the Jews…..
@warrenpaine
@warrenpaine Жыл бұрын
21:17 She could have been speaking of Britain's undemocratic partition of Ireland 100 years ago.
@shaistanazir4323
@shaistanazir4323 Жыл бұрын
Ghadi karmi has summed up so beautifully about the plight of Palestinian population who were the natives and how homeland was taken away from them. Balfour declaration was unjust and betrayal from Britishers so british govt is an enabler of this justice
@TheKeithvidz
@TheKeithvidz 4 жыл бұрын
Long as Israel gets unconditional U.S. backing, no peace.
@simondara1971
@simondara1971 10 ай бұрын
Very, very good insight. Ghada Karmi hits every nail on the head. 1 thing I'd like to add: the question: why Palestine? In the 1900's, the zionists were indeed playing with the idea of creating their own state. But they considered several options. Some places in south america even. In my view, the only solution now is to relocate the zionists to another place; like a scarsely populated state in the US, since the US is the biggest supporter of israel. If we leave things to possible solutions like 'equal rights' or 'two states in Pälestine', that is not going to happen. It's clear now that the zionists want to kill off every Palestinian so they have the country to themselves. Exactly like what happened to the native indians in the US.
@cindyrolle6476
@cindyrolle6476 6 жыл бұрын
Palestinians should have the right to make a homeland in England since Palestine was awarded to the Israelis by the British!
@Maranatha14
@Maranatha14 5 жыл бұрын
How stupid
@markjohnstone1618
@markjohnstone1618 5 жыл бұрын
Cindy what an imbecile you are. Why do people comment without having any idea about the dispute. See my reply to the 'TheMysteryGamer'. Read and educate yourself first.
@Truth_Seeker1
@Truth_Seeker1 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Johnstone Cindy is right you donut.
@chakir348
@chakir348 3 жыл бұрын
@@Maranatha14 why its stupid you gave a bunch of eastern Europeans the land of the indigenous Palestinians
@Rowlph8888
@Rowlph8888 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't.check your history.Britain tried to help the Jews, by offering them a place to flee persecution in thee early 20th century, as anti-Semitism was rife everywhere and at itss zenith that that time. They tried to limit immigration, when it started to become overwheelmed and the Jews turned against them and attacked What diid youu expectt the Brits to do
@shaistanazir4323
@shaistanazir4323 Жыл бұрын
One of the best and true analysis done especially by the lady and Ian...
@nedrutland3201
@nedrutland3201 7 жыл бұрын
Why is no one mentioning Lord Walter Rothschild to whom the letter was written
@natalies4849
@natalies4849 7 жыл бұрын
What difference does it make?
@bonkers704
@bonkers704 6 жыл бұрын
America had already entered the War in April 1917.
@user-rn7jf5bq6l
@user-rn7jf5bq6l 6 жыл бұрын
He who must not be named, must not be named.
@barbaragregory6507
@barbaragregory6507 4 жыл бұрын
Yep you're right but Lord Walter Rothschilds but now they want to leave Isreal they want to go back to Ukraine as their 2nd homeland.
@TheKeithvidz
@TheKeithvidz 4 жыл бұрын
Red shield just came to mind.
@petegascoigne8965
@petegascoigne8965 6 жыл бұрын
support and sympati for the Palestinians! well done Ghada! fundamentale problem Jews stole the Palestinian land, with the help and aid of England! colonial mentality!
@martinpower472
@martinpower472 6 жыл бұрын
If Britain started it Britain should fix it.
@talhatariqyuluqatdis
@talhatariqyuluqatdis 5 жыл бұрын
The British government doesnt know how to fix things, it only knows how to break them
@johnhoward7875
@johnhoward7875 3 жыл бұрын
Because these people are incapable of fixing anything themselves they need Britain to do it for them Talk about the white man's burden
@fatigahdev8076
@fatigahdev8076 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnhoward7875 but the white man broke it.... With the Balfour Declaration
@johnhoward7875
@johnhoward7875 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatigahdev8076 Arabs were there way after the Jews The land belongs to the Jews Always has been always will. The Balfour Declaration was righting the wrong of the Jewish displacement AND I AM NOT A JEW
@fatigahdev8076
@fatigahdev8076 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnhoward7875 Do you even know the history? Man... Go check out the ethnic roots of current "Jews". Tell me again who the land "belongs to". If anybody has a claim on that land, it's what we know to be Palestinians today.
@rick91443
@rick91443 5 жыл бұрын
Great program and I learned a great deal. Thanks, Mehdi Hassan is always fantastic. I feel for both sides of this terrible conflict...rr
@kamrulhassanruman
@kamrulhassanruman 6 жыл бұрын
Beyonds all religious views,i would like to ask the rest inhabitants of this universe,how do they feel when native palestinian womens,childs,in their motherland are beaten,fired by invader for about 60 years?
@efishtainer4602
@efishtainer4602 6 жыл бұрын
Stop falling for this false narrative
@princekumarsingh6703
@princekumarsingh6703 6 жыл бұрын
Beyond all religious views,I would like to ask the rest of inhabitants of this universe, how do they feel when native Zoroastrian women, child,in thier motherland are forcely converted, persecuted, beaten and fired by invaders for about 1400 year.
@friendlycreature6375
@friendlycreature6375 5 жыл бұрын
@@princekumarsingh6703 There are still Zoroastrians living in Iran today and practising their religion peacefully. So others who left should go back. Cuz Iran today ain't responsible for what its ancestors did to them.
@cridgemcking2471
@cridgemcking2471 5 жыл бұрын
@@princekumarsingh6703 Well, we strongly disagree with that, but why did you bring up the case which is not necessary related with this conflict? Did you wanna point out that the Palestinians need to be blamed of what other people did in the past? I just can't understand. If you brought up the Hamas' operation in this comment section, that may be still relatable.
@pobilisehristikrist2292
@pobilisehristikrist2292 4 жыл бұрын
Ghada Karmi 👍👏
@MrLoftusjj3
@MrLoftusjj3 7 жыл бұрын
There are three things the USA and Israel does not have much of, money, friends and time.
@talhatariqyuluqatdis
@talhatariqyuluqatdis 5 жыл бұрын
They have money and friends, but not time
@nobodycancrossit1379
@nobodycancrossit1379 7 жыл бұрын
Should never of happened!
@nevinthephilippines
@nevinthephilippines 3 жыл бұрын
I love listening to gharda karmi
@bajenforever7437
@bajenforever7437 6 жыл бұрын
Thé British empire are responsible for so many tragedies for civilians in the world. Palestine is just one example. Ireland, Kenya, Uganda, India, Jamaica, Grenada, South Africa, Austrailia and New Zealand are just a few examples of countries that has been suffering from British imperialism. Saying that I do respect the English civilian community. They are not responsible. The british companies are. I do not think the British would accept Congo to help the Irish to colonize England. That's all that has to be said 😂. Let' sign the Lubmba declaration!! Fascinating how oppressors always justify their atrocities and dirty tactics with cynical explanations.
@talhatariqyuluqatdis
@talhatariqyuluqatdis 5 жыл бұрын
Yup
@phanosevangelou597
@phanosevangelou597 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Cyprus
@emscott2705
@emscott2705 4 жыл бұрын
Utter nonsense. Kenya, Uganda etc would be in a far better situation today if the British had never left. You've clearly been nowhere nor met any of the inhabitants of such countries.
@coraldonna1
@coraldonna1 6 жыл бұрын
This woman has hit the nail on the head "It was someone else's country". Yes, the British had a mandate - the land did not 'belong' to the Arabs who lived there. Prior to the Mandate, the land was controlled by Turkey. and the indigenous population still did not 'own' their country. As the land was divided in half how did this compromise the arabs who lived there....most of whom went to Jordan. Why does Karmi not not dispute the creation of any other sovereign state by The League of Nations. When Jordan controlled the religious rights, access was restricted at least under Israeli control the religious sites are open to all. Please do not listen to 'indigenous' or 'native' description: Most people's families who now live on the West Bank came from Transjordan and those that live in Gaza originally came from Egypt.
@coraldonna1
@coraldonna1 3 жыл бұрын
@ Yes, some do. Some come from the USA. Many come from Arab countries such as Yemen, Iran, Iraq etc. because they were thrown out. Others come from Africa, from where they too were expelled. Please read a history book and study this subject before you respond with nonsense. Many thanks.
@coraldonna1
@coraldonna1 2 жыл бұрын
@khaldoun sleiman I think you misunderstood! The Levantine Arabs who lived in what was Ottoman Palestine were given over 50% of the land and this was renamed as Transjordan and subsequently The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. The remaining area was mandated by the British who then carved up the remaining land - half to Levantine Arabs and half to Jews. The Jews accepted this, the Arabs did not. I agree that the entire land should not have been mandated after WWI but it was and we can not turn back time. The only way to solve the solution is surely to think ahead. Karmi is a bitter old woman who forgets her own 'truths' and will use aggression and lies to promulgate her world vision. Please listen to some of them on "Intelligence Squared" and then read her biography! As Judge Judy says, "If you tell the truth, you don't need a good memory!". Sadly, she suffers from an amnesia of the truth.
@CaptTerrific
@CaptTerrific 7 жыл бұрын
I find it fascinating that these 3 scholars see 3 different long-term solutions: Status Quo, 1-state, and 2-state. I'm familiar with Kramer's work, but I look forward to reading Black and Karmi's as well!
@nassirjama5544
@nassirjama5544 7 жыл бұрын
Higgins2001 status quo and the 2 state "solutions" are actually one and the same because israel will keep taking land, whilst arguing for a 2 state solution. The 2 state solution is long gone, its practically all israel now.
@CaptTerrific
@CaptTerrific 7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't imagine a functioning 2-state solution would exist given the current "boarders" (though it's really all Israeli controlled). I'd expect such a solution to have not only drastically redrawn lines, but rules and laws as well. However I'm not nearly educated enough on the politics of the region, nor on public/international policy as a whole, to make any guess as to how that would work, let alone how to get the people from each side on board.
@Gath8mm
@Gath8mm 3 жыл бұрын
Israelis of modern times who have occupied the majority of what was once Palestine are not at all related to the Jews of Biblical times , but rather they are Ashkenazi Jews . The Ashkenazim are descended from the ancient Khazarian Empire from southern Russia and the Caucuses region . These Ashkenazi people are not Semitic at all . The conversion of the Khazars took place in the 8 th century AD , when they adopted Judaism in order to avoid conflict with the pagan Russ Viking tribes to the north , the Mongols to the east , the Islamic caliphates to the south and the recently Christianized Slavic peoples to the west . This conversion was done primarily for reasons of commerce as the Khazar lands were situated astride the Black Sea region where the white slave trade of Slavic peoples was conducted between the Mongols / Tatars who captured the slaves / Slavs ( origin of the word ) and the Islamic Sultans who purchased the white Slavic captives - the Jewish Khazars were the brokers and profiteers of this slave trade . When the Khazar Empire was absorbed under the Russian Empire after it had adopted the Eastern Orthodox Faith , these Khazars disbursed throughout Russia and Eastern Europe , eventually working their way into Western Europe where they were associated with business and commerce , primarily as merchants , bankers / usurers , jewelers ( again , look at the word origin ) and political advisors to kings ( just like little Jared Kushner is to Trump ) . It was Khazars who were the architects of the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia in 1917 , with the financial assistance of their brethren on Wall Street ---- the dynamic continues to this day . The Yiddish language of the Ashkenazi is an amalgam of the ancient Khazar tongue blended with Hebrew , Slavic and German - thereby representative of the morphing of the language in accordance with the migrations westwards into the heart of Europe . No Semitic connection whatsoever . The only true Semitic Jews remaining on earth today , the ones with a legitimate connection to the Biblical epics of the Exodus or to the two destructions of Solomon's Temple ( by the Babylonians and the Romans , respectively ) , or to the epic of Jesus Christ , are the Sephardic Jews . The Sephardim are also known as the Mediterranean Jews , as their diaspora spread around the regions of the Mediterranean in accordance with the ancient Roman Provinces . Spain , Portugal , Italy , Greece , Turkey , Palestine , Syria and North Africa all had thriving Jewish communities of Sephardic peoples . Smaller Sephardic communities also existed in places like Iraq , Iran and Armenia . Today the Sephardim constitute around just 7 % of the Jewish population world wide , and have largely been marginalized and silenced by the Ashkenazim . The creation of the State of Israel began with the British via The Balfour Declaration during World War I ( as England was by then firmly in the stranglehold of the Zionist Banking House of Rothschild ) . Moses Hess and Theodor Herzl , two Ashkenazi Jews , were the fathers of modern Zionism , which is a political movement and financial agenda , having nothing at all to do with the Judaic Faith . ( This topic should be researched by the likes of Mr. Lowry before they spout - off about gobbledygook they know nothing about ) . World War II provided the catalyst for the settlement of Ashkenazi Jews into Palestine ( former Ottoman Turkish territory , subsequently taken over by the British / Rothschilds after WWI ) by way of the Holocaust ( Hebrew for Burnt Offering ) . The Banking House of Rothschild ( who owns the US Federal Reserve Bank ) financed the creation of Israel as a beachhead for the access and commerce of middle east oil ( as the internal combustion engine took hold in the aftermath of WWI ) and to establish the beachhead for World War III . ( Suggested reading ; Exodus , by Leon Uris ) So then , to those who cheer the decision to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem , be careful what you are elated over , as this move may well trigger a tsunami of events that potentially could change the world as you have known it . Everything is connected . IS = Isis , ancient Egyptian Lunar Goddess - later renamed The Virgin Mary RA = Ra Amun ( Amen , aka Horus ) , ancient Egyptian Solar God - later renamed Jesus Christ EL = El Elohim ( The God of gods - Hebrew ) aka Yahweh- a bloodthirsty god of War Thus , the name of IS - RA - EL ...... Israel
@ruy.diazdevivar
@ruy.diazdevivar 8 ай бұрын
The reason why the US immediately recognized Israel (Harry Truman) and UK abstained can be easily explained by the typical UK's duplicity and the fact that the same horse was already sold 20 times over..., it happens even now when USA vetoes the UN resolutions to stop the Gaza genocide, UK abstains but none doubt about the true position of UK in this conflict.
@husamabed6527
@husamabed6527 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Jews and Palestinians come with everlasting peace! tear this hate wall down and make peace please!
@oceanic8424
@oceanic8424 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day the British failed miserably at partitioning the Middle East; just like their partioning of India was a catastrophe. In both cases of partition, the legacy of the Brits was decades of never ending conflict. Jordan should have been split into two countries; one for the Palestinians, and one for the Hashemites. This would have stopped all disputes, and unnecessary conflicts.
@kreagle
@kreagle 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic presentation. Thanks for clear concise conversation.
@123axel123
@123axel123 5 жыл бұрын
The woman is very good. She should be president/prime minister of Palestine
@rap36case
@rap36case 10 ай бұрын
Divide and conquer was a strategy to break up the Ottoman Empire. The Balfour declaration was also used to promise establishment of Arab states idependent of Turkey.
@Glenrok
@Glenrok 11 күн бұрын
1. Her family DIDN’T “have to leave” Palestine- they simply had to agree to live in peace with the Jews- as 160 000 Arabs did who were mostly the descendants of the 2 000 000 Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel today. The fact they didn’t simply shows they were happy for the Jews to be annihilated- as was the stated intention of the surrounding Arab nations at the time. 2. The Arabs did NOT welcome Jewish refugees before the Balfour declaration- nor live in peace with them. Jews started increasing emigration to Palestine from 1882 fleeing Russian and Yemeni Muslim persecution. They formed small communities to live peacefully, but attacks on such communities by the Arabs started in 1886- just FOUR YEARS later! 3. The land DID NOT BELONG to them! It “belonged” to the Ottoman Empire, who ceded it to the League of Nations in 1917 at the treaty of Lausanne after they LOST WW1- who then appointed the British to administer it! As the governing authority, the British- on BEHALF of the League of Nations, very much DID have the right to partition it under international law! 4. The original mandate for greater Palestine included Jordan, Lebanon and southern Syria- ALL of which went to the Arabs! The TINY strip of land left was to be partitioned further to give both Jews and Arabs their own land partly in the mistaken belief it would end the violence between them. 5. The JEWS are JUST AS MUCH the indigenous people of the land- though many have interbred with other peoples over the centuries of their displacement. The Jewish heritage in the area is indisputable in the archeological relics there dating back 3000 years- FAR longer than the relics of the Muslim Arab conquerers who only arrived in the 7th century. 6. BOTH sides have a claim to the land- but only one has ever showed any willingness to share it- hint- it’s not the Arabs…….
@russelselmer5326
@russelselmer5326 3 жыл бұрын
To understand The background to The Balfourd deklaration you have to read Benjamin Fridman.!
@bumfie
@bumfie 3 ай бұрын
What drove the decision ? Many things 1 which would have been the leaking of france + british agreements to partition the land A+ B north + south Sykes-Picot Agreement . This was i think after the Mcmahon + Hussain correspondence
@VMBartlett
@VMBartlett 8 ай бұрын
Without the 1875 purchase of shares in the Suez Canal Company, Britain - and its Empire - might not have thought it necessary to support the French during WW I. And thus, perhaps not needed the Balfour Declaration, or financially supported the Arab Revolt, or any proposed division of Arab Lands.
@asf411
@asf411 6 ай бұрын
If I go to your home while there is a hostage situation and the hostage-takers have let me in, take it and then generously offer you half of it, will you take the offer?
@robertroylomax8114
@robertroylomax8114 Жыл бұрын
The Jews forfeited and subsequently lost their claim to the Palestine Homeland when they rejected their own Messiah. Matt.23:37-39
@t814
@t814 7 жыл бұрын
The Anglo-French promised a lot of things to the Arabs.
@Rowlph8888
@Rowlph8888 2 жыл бұрын
They promised a lot to everybody.
@andrewduncan8510
@andrewduncan8510 8 ай бұрын
Is it not time for the rational voices of the Middle East to consider making a contemporary declaration regarding Palestinian self-determination and statehood?
@hass3n92
@hass3n92 7 жыл бұрын
please do an Iraq special!
@breaks0
@breaks0 7 жыл бұрын
Mehdi Hassan's such a badass. :)
@Hayanomie
@Hayanomie 3 жыл бұрын
And then English people have the nerve to be spiteful towards immigrant and refugee spillover caused by their colonial history.
@TheKeithvidz
@TheKeithvidz 4 жыл бұрын
In a speech U.K. prime minister May refused apologizing - vile. In the same gathering was Netanyahu.
@zionist9008
@zionist9008 3 жыл бұрын
apologize for what? did otoman terorist apologize for conquering the lands and taking it for themselves? no. the british whipped them out with the help of the sharif of mecca. the palestinians should be grateful the british through UN even gave them a land and not drive them to jordan.
@TheKeithvidz
@TheKeithvidz 3 жыл бұрын
@@zionist9008 live up to your name - no conscience.
@Rowlph8888
@Rowlph8888 2 жыл бұрын
Apologise for what? Saving alll the Jews in Eastern Europe and then trying to dipplomatically coordinate immigration, only to be attacked when trying to compromise
@96adarsh69
@96adarsh69 5 жыл бұрын
But why did British give Palestine to Jews anyway? I mean what was the incentive for them?
@daughterofjerusalem8483
@daughterofjerusalem8483 5 жыл бұрын
Adarsh Mylapalle Judea was Jewish Land. Titus, the son of Emperor Vespasian destroyed the Jewish Temple and Rome issued coins inscribed JUDEA CAPTA. This was Jewish Land long before the Arab invasion which began in the 7th century CE
@terencetagoylo7017
@terencetagoylo7017 4 жыл бұрын
@@daughterofjerusalem8483 but arent you originally Ashkenazi jew?
@anthonyndungu5431
@anthonyndungu5431 4 жыл бұрын
@@daughterofjerusalem8483 clearly both palestinians and jews have a claim to the land it is absurd to deny a people who have been living there as u put it since 600 AD that they cant live there'and know no other home why can't there be one state for all either jew or palestinian with full citizenship and equal rights.
@anthonyndungu5431
@anthonyndungu5431 4 жыл бұрын
@@daughterofjerusalem8483 both jews and palestinians have a connection to the land why cant they all live together in one state, while it is true that israel has the economic and military might to control the lives,movement of the non jewish population in the west bank for the next 1000 years or even more,what picture does that create to the rest of the world.the white government in south africa reached a decision that while it had power,economic and military strenght that would allow it to subjugate the black population they had already lost their moral authority.Nelson Mandela stated that even the white population were also enslaved by the system of aparthied and they needed saving. jews as a people have endured the worst suffering in the world from slavery in egypt to conquests from the assyrians,hittites,babylonians,persians,greeks,romans,crusaders,caliphates,ottomans,british,they have a right to their nation but their policy towards the other non jewish population is deplorable.
@chakir348
@chakir348 3 жыл бұрын
@Abdishakur Adan so they sacrificed the indigenous Palestinians
@ruy.diazdevivar
@ruy.diazdevivar 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, this debate "evolved' into sheer irrationality, as usually happens (modus operandi) when there is a simple and clear conclusion. Balfour made the "deal" with Zionism and the Jewish Diaspora in 1917 but Hitler came to power in 1933 (16 years later), we cannot revert the flux of time without seriously injuring logic and common sense (the least common of the senses). Still, there is a good point here, namely that Balfour, Rothschild, and Weizman et al had a great impact and responsibility in the future holocaust... Not many people understand that past events cannot be explained by future events regardless of the emotional charge the future events can stir in people, this is an obvious fallacy demonstrating that the debate was lost.
@williamlincoln9044
@williamlincoln9044 Жыл бұрын
WHY DID NOT THE JEWS GO DIRECTLY TO USA OR BRITAIN?
@rudraramnath2083
@rudraramnath2083 5 ай бұрын
British had no right to give away land of any country
@agussutegowaluyo3139
@agussutegowaluyo3139 Жыл бұрын
Dr Ghada Karmi Truth ❤
@Siddiqui351
@Siddiqui351 3 жыл бұрын
What is a devil job
@ishratshreenrahman5587
@ishratshreenrahman5587 5 жыл бұрын
There should be another Jewish state in Europe.its not fair to let Jews go without empty hand from Europe.
@rashidabegum7683
@rashidabegum7683 3 жыл бұрын
Britain will suffer
@kimnabi3988
@kimnabi3988 9 ай бұрын
Money screams and no money dreams
@ReeSoboh
@ReeSoboh Ай бұрын
Martin - you can take a hike with your co-existence. We will NOT accept status quo!!
@cherkas009
@cherkas009 6 жыл бұрын
The israeli-arab who didn't leave because they didn't have to leave in 48 has it better than any other Arab country in general Israel is the best thing that ever happened to the Arabs living there
@drabdell
@drabdell 7 жыл бұрын
We patiently remind that the Palestine-Israel conflict is not possible to resolve with human intervention. A devine intervention will happen in future and the world will witness it.
@MustacheVerra
@MustacheVerra 6 жыл бұрын
And let us remind that even crazy people can post messages online.
@daughterofjerusalem8483
@daughterofjerusalem8483 5 жыл бұрын
AbdellAzeez bin Abdullateefsattar Yes. The Almighty will אי״ה rebuild the Temple on Mount Moriah, in Jerusalem D.C.( David’s Capital) as it is written “And My House shall be called a House of Prayer for all peoples.”
@siyandagudazi1324
@siyandagudazi1324 3 жыл бұрын
And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. Amos:9:14 And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God. Amos:9:15
@robertroylomax8114
@robertroylomax8114 Жыл бұрын
Dueteronomy 8:19 And it must occur that if you should at all forget Jehovah your God and you should actually walk after other gods and serve them and bow down to them, I do bear witness against YOU today that YOU people will absolutely perish. 20 Like the nations that Jehovah is destroying from before YOU, that is the way YOU will perish, because YOU will not listen to the voice of Jehovah YOUR God.
@moviesformoshedaniel9031
@moviesformoshedaniel9031 Жыл бұрын
Why can no one say Jews are indigenous to Judea Why is that controversial?
@alllivesmatter5440
@alllivesmatter5440 6 жыл бұрын
MIGHTY MIGHTY ISRAEL, god bless, cheers from New Zealand.
@CALAMITYGURULASTDAYS
@CALAMITYGURULASTDAYS 7 жыл бұрын
Isaiah 29New King James Version (NKJV) GOD's SOON Destruction of Israel Prophesied in Holy Bible for Crimes Against Humanity! "WOE TO JERUSALEM" 29 “Woe to Ariel, Ariel, (Ariel Sharon was president and did 4 wars in Palestine), the city where David dwelt! Add year to year; Let feasts come around. 2 Yet I will distress Ariel; There shall be heaviness and sorrow, And it shall be to Me as Ariel. 3 I will encamp Against you all around, I will lay siege against you with a mound, And I will raise siegeworks against you. 4 You shall be brought down, You shall speak out of the ground; Your speech shall be low, out of the dust; Your voice shall be like a medium’s, out of the ground; And your speech shall whisper out of the dust. 5 “Moreover the multitude of your foes Shall be like fine dust, And the multitude of the terrible ones Like chaff that passes away; Yes, it shall be in an instant, suddenly. 6 You will be punished by the Lord of hosts With thunder and earthquake and great noise, With storm and tempest And the flame of devouring fire. 7 The multitude of all the nations who fight against Ariel, Even all who fight against her and her fortress, And distress her, Shall be as a dream of a night vision. 8 It shall even be as when a hungry man dreams, And look-he eats; But he awakes, and his soul is still empty; Or as when a thirsty man dreams, And look-he drinks; But he awakes, and indeed he is faint, And his soul still craves: So the multitude of all the nations shall be, Who fight against Mount Zion.” The Blindness of Disobedience 9 Pause and wonder! Blind yourselves and be blind! They are drunk, but not with wine; They stagger, but not with intoxicating drink. 10 For the Lord has poured out on you The spirit of deep sleep, And has closed your eyes, namely, the prophets; And He has covered your heads, namely, the seers. 11 The whole vision has become to you like the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one who is literate, saying, “Read this, please.” And he says, “I cannot, for it is sealed.” 12 Then the book is delivered to one who is illiterate, saying, “Read this, please.” And he says, “I am not literate.” 13 Therefore the Lord said: “Inasmuch as these people draw near with their mouths And honor Me with their lips, But have removed their hearts far from Me, And their fear toward Me is taught by the commandment of men, 14 Therefore, behold, I will again do a marvelous work Among this people, A marvelous work and a wonder; For the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, And the understanding of their prudent men shall be hidden.” 15 Woe to those who seek deep to hide their counsel far from the Lord, And their works are in the dark; They say, “Who sees us?” and, “Who knows us?” 16 Surely you have things turned around! Shall the potter be esteemed as the clay; For shall the thing made say of him who made it, “He did not make me”? Or shall the thing formed say of him who formed it, “He has no understanding”? Future Recovery of Wisdom 17 Is it not yet a very little while Till LEBANON shall be turned into a fruitful field, And the fruitful field be esteemed as a forest? 18 In that day the deaf shall hear the words of the book, And the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness. 19 The humble also shall increase their joy in the Lord, And the poor among men shall rejoice PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO MY CHANNEL FOR LAST DAYS PROPHECY AND NEWS
@vinm300
@vinm300 6 жыл бұрын
Palestine need democracy. Let's hope one day Fatah step back from imposing a one-party corrupt state on the Palestinian people. Let's hope Hamas step back from imposing brutal dictatorship. When Palestinians get a representative democratic leadership I'm sure PEACE will follow.
@amirmonem8080
@amirmonem8080 2 жыл бұрын
Or the occupying soldiers leave to 67 borders
@steephenabraham5372
@steephenabraham5372 Жыл бұрын
The haulocost victims deserve a place to rest
@ReeSoboh
@ReeSoboh Ай бұрын
Israel a democracy, seriously Ian? 🙄
@greenwaterdragon888
@greenwaterdragon888 7 жыл бұрын
as they lost the land was give to the people that would bring it back from the a barren land, and they have.
@reuterromain1054
@reuterromain1054 3 жыл бұрын
Israel would also have been established without the "Balfour Declaration" in my opinion.
@fatigahdev8076
@fatigahdev8076 3 жыл бұрын
It was always going to happen, and it was always going to be to the detriment of some islamic country.
@myownbiz5461
@myownbiz5461 5 ай бұрын
One factor that keeps getting overlooked is the cultural ambiance of Western countries, particularly right after WWII. Most folks today don't realize how rascist our own culture was against Jews, then. The "WASP" or white anglo-saxon protestant control of social norms was prevalent. Anti-semitism (REAL anti-semitism) was very out front, both here and in GB. Nothing was thought of running classified ads saying that rentals, home sales, jobs and even service in cafes would not allow Jews. This was in both the North and the South US. My grandfather, after retirement, worked as a part-time reception clerk for a high-end hotel in Milwaukee. On the desk, there was a brass sign, about the size of a desk name-plate, that said "Restricted". I asked my mother what that meant and she hemmed and hawed and came up with some anemic explanation for the fact that no Jews were allowed. This country and GB and others, were NOT going to be forced to take in more Jews, so "Palestine", a fully inhabited country for many generations, long since promised to its residents, was a convenient dumping ground..a handy "solution", disguised as a "humanitarian effort" for this wayward Jewish population! GB came up with the Balfour Declaration but the US was a primary proponent of its disgusting enactment!
@badgeramaya1841
@badgeramaya1841 Жыл бұрын
Controlled opposition on both sides
@johnhoward7875
@johnhoward7875 6 жыл бұрын
The woman lives in the UK a country who she hates Has a very good job and is safe and secure Why isn't she there in Palestine ?
@hansjuker8296
@hansjuker8296 6 жыл бұрын
John Howard thats like saying why dont all Jews go to Israel and get out of New York City.
@johnhoward7875
@johnhoward7875 6 жыл бұрын
The difference is the Jews in New York City are safe there and love the country. This woman lives in the UK despite despising the Brits. She knows she is safe to loathe them because it tolerates even vermin like her . Plus money, welfare, safety and security are very good incentives to stay and be able to spit in the face of the people who protect her and family and have the right to say what she wants. Can you imagine me or a Jew being allowed to say what I want in palestine?
@nimanemat7507
@nimanemat7507 6 жыл бұрын
so she should just forget about the injustices that were done to her ancestors just because she lives a comfortable life in the uk? what sort of retarded logic is that?!
@johnhoward7875
@johnhoward7875 3 жыл бұрын
@@nimanemat7507 The Jews were there long before any arab and your logic is the same for them
@johnhoward7875
@johnhoward7875 3 жыл бұрын
@ Just as the Jews who lived there before Israel was created It is their land
@comicbookorigin2221
@comicbookorigin2221 3 жыл бұрын
Jews all of the indigenous people of this land this is our land we not need a declaration who consists of right for this land this land are always wore our land this given us by God
@chakir348
@chakir348 3 жыл бұрын
Never was specially if you're an eastern European fake
@Leejahstar
@Leejahstar 7 жыл бұрын
Oke
@francishallare204
@francishallare204 3 жыл бұрын
Judaism is heavily tied to the land of israel it is where the patriarchs , kingdoms of the golden days of jewish civilization was set in. After passover jews says the word next year in jerusalem or in weddings the bride utters the word "if i forget you O jerusalem , let my right hand forget it's skill" Psalm 137:5
@NickyRikki
@NickyRikki 3 жыл бұрын
Next year in Jerusalem doesn't mean to return... its actually redemption of the dead. Not at all what you think
@amirmonem8080
@amirmonem8080 2 жыл бұрын
So what ..doesn't excuse abuses against palestinians
@francishallare204
@francishallare204 2 жыл бұрын
@@amirmonem8080 that's a tough sell when 5 Arab armies invaded with a goal to cleanse the land of Jews.
@carlroberts4963
@carlroberts4963 2 жыл бұрын
Jewish home land in Palistine was fot the.jews In.germany not any.others Jews who.desided to go there
@carlroberts4963
@carlroberts4963 2 жыл бұрын
The jews were not placed in A placed.in.a land called Isreal in palistine
@carlroberts4963
@carlroberts4963 2 жыл бұрын
The solution is changeing The name that.was forster In palistine Isriel.
@naftalianderson146
@naftalianderson146 4 жыл бұрын
The International Laws you seem unaware of were set out in the San Remo conference. The Israeli settlements in Judea and Samaria were set in the International Law at that conference as being completely legal. Sorry, but you typically don't know your stuff.
@davidfrench1049
@davidfrench1049 6 жыл бұрын
"Palestine" has never been a "Country" or State" ever in history.
@ridhahmad2385
@ridhahmad2385 5 жыл бұрын
not sure if that's true but the fact is that they are indigenous to the land
@NickyRikki
@NickyRikki 3 жыл бұрын
What a stupid theory.... guess what before white man came to America natives were still indigenous to the land and were not a country or state! They had no currency or statehood but nobody on the fucken planet will tell you Natives in America aren't indigenous to the land and they were ethnically cleansed. So what makes the Palestinian indigenous any different? Because they had no state hood or money or passport? What qualifies a people for you? I would say you are very small minded and have no fucken clue what you are talking about.
@davidfrench6521
@davidfrench6521 3 жыл бұрын
@@NickyRikki I never stated a theory ,I stated a fact.
@NickyRikki
@NickyRikki 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidfrench6521 the country of Chad only gained independence in 1960 officially does that mean before 1960 it would be okay to go and place another group of people on the land ? Give me a fucken break
@davidfrench6521
@davidfrench6521 3 жыл бұрын
@@NickyRikki So your theory (logic) would mean that all Americans should leave the USA and give it back to the native Indians?, and all Australians should leave and give it back to the Aboriginals?
@reuterromain1054
@reuterromain1054 2 жыл бұрын
Palestine in 1917 was not a country, it was disputed territory at best. That should be said as well. Zionism predated the 1917 "Balfour Declaration" by many years. Israel would have been established also without the "Balfour Declaration".
@mortef
@mortef 2 жыл бұрын
In 1917 during the WWI Palestine was called Palestine under the Ottomans, until the British formed British Mandatory Palestine in 1920. Palaestina Salutaris, Palaestina Secunda, Palaestina Prima and Syria Palestina is the earlier historical names of the region.
@larafayrouz5622
@larafayrouz5622 2 жыл бұрын
LOL WHATEVER….bulsh*****
@reuterromain1054
@reuterromain1054 Жыл бұрын
@RandomnobodylikeyouIsrael was a country from approx. 1000 BC to 70 CE. Which makes an Israel for approximately 1000 years. Most Arabs fled the country and were driven out by no one. And there never was and there has never been a genocide because the Palis have multiplied tenfold since 1948. Violence is correct, but the violence came from both sides the Arabs having started it. You should get your facts straight.
@ashwiniragupathy5978
@ashwiniragupathy5978 4 жыл бұрын
Israel is the homeland of Jewish people Long live Israel 🇮🇱 Love from India 🇮🇳
@sabinmessou6783
@sabinmessou6783 4 жыл бұрын
3 against one as always bias program zagainst jews.
@ifuckingtoldya3465
@ifuckingtoldya3465 3 жыл бұрын
English? For Zionists is always a plot
@yeshua64
@yeshua64 7 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as "Palestine".
@danlivni2097
@danlivni2097 7 жыл бұрын
That land was controlled by the Turkey.
@ramii40
@ramii40 6 жыл бұрын
may be you need to study history :D
@bonkers704
@bonkers704 6 жыл бұрын
One of the most insulting things about the Balfour Declaration was its reference to "the non-Jewish peoples of Palestine" as though they didn't have a separate and distinct identity of their own. But hey, that's the imperialist, colonialist mindset for you.
@danlivni2097
@danlivni2097 6 жыл бұрын
There was never in history any state called Palestine governed by Palestinians. That's not a convenient truth for pro Palestinian Arabs to acknowledge. They NEVER OWNED THE LAND. PERIOD.
@zuhairth
@zuhairth 6 жыл бұрын
Dan Livni I am sure if you do your search you will find what you’re looking for...
@henrydavis9388
@henrydavis9388 5 жыл бұрын
there was never any state called Palestine
@yoavyoav9722
@yoavyoav9722 6 жыл бұрын
Israel was established in the land of Israel, there was no Palestinian state in the region, nor in the intere world, nor in the history of the world. The jewish people are the indegenous people of Israel and not the arabs who call them selves Palestinians.
@amirmonem8080
@amirmonem8080 2 жыл бұрын
Where you foreigners emigrate to?
@drkarmakid
@drkarmakid 4 жыл бұрын
Balfour is completely irrelevant. The British all but gave up on Balfour in the 1940s. Palestinians were expelled and/or fled because Arab states started a genocidal war against nascent Israel in 1948. The existence of 2 million Arab Israelis proves that Israel isn't the problem. Where are the Iraqi Jews, Egyptian Jews, Syrian Jews, Tunisian Jews...? They were all kicked out (or compelled to leave) just for being Jewish.
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