Baltic Sea cables: Does the trail lead to China? | DW News

[@carlduplessis31]

Must be 4 people in a row boat , perhaps the same 4 that blew up the Nord Stream gas pipeline .

[@anzelmasmatutis2500]

Must be the Losharik build by Russians.

[@bhew7409]

Nah, this wasnt the Americans.

[@PSA78]

Yeah, it's amazing what people belive. 😂

[@B.D.E.]

Go away WuMao bot.

[@EricEs-f6o]

The head of the German foreign intelligence service (BND), August Hanning, stated a few weeks ago that the attack on the Nord Stream gas pipelines was carried out with the support of Poland and with the approval of the presidents of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky and Poland Andrzej Duda.

[@tim_peaky]

Off course it’s deliberate! The location of those cables is well known. As a captain you know not to drop anchor there. And why would you in the middle of the sea?

[@fabricemartin5561]

Nobody knows who destroyed the NordSreams 2 years after the attack but we already know who destroyed the internet cable for sure? Just like we don't know who killed Epstein in an American prison but we know who killed Navalny in the depths of Siberia? All this looks like our usual doctrine of pathological liars with our so-called evidence, exactly like the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction which never existed!!! Our populations and the rest of the world no longer believe us today....

[@chickenlover657]

Which is why they didn't.

[@tim_peaky]

@ then how do you explain the timing on both events? Both times as the ship was above it…

[@chickenlover657]

@@tim_peaky What timing? There is no evidence of that at all, in any respect. The investigation is ongoing and has made zero conclusion. Even the pentagon said they still have no clue so far.

[@tim_peaky]

@ I’ll look into it. It’s what media initially told here in Belgium

[@JensOverby]

Danish viewer here... Please, can someone explain to me why you cannot board a ship under strong suspicion of sabotage? This can't go on, and there is a large repair that costs money. SEIZE the ship.... What is the problem?

[@uniqueaustraliandestinatio1352]

Most people act rationally.

[@JensOverby]

@@uniqueaustraliandestinatio1352 The exact time when the cable was cut is known, the exact position of the ship at that time is known, this position correlates with the place where the cable is cut. If this is reality, the rational thing to do is to board the ship to secure pot. evidence.

[@PoulNoergard]

​@@JensOverbyShip in International waters. A box is cut, and I have a box cutter - so was it me?

[@siprus]

They probably can, but boarding a vessel in the exclusive economic zone is much more difficult proposition when it comes to international law. A lot of limitations apply. Much simpler to board it in danish territorial waters.

[@uniqueaustraliandestinatio1352]

@@siprus Piracy

[@bianlun5785]

China has history of cutting sea cables in Asia Pacific seas the Matsu island incident they cut cables 30 times disrupting internet of 12000 people.

[@zacksmith5963]

You described usa

[@frankfeng4728]

The US was wrong on their claim of WMD in Iraq. That doesn't mean the US always lies.

[@laara1426]

IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME CABLES HAVE BEEN CUT.

[@fabricemartin5561]

Nobody knows who destroyed the NordSreams 2 years after the attack but we already know who destroyed the internet cable for sure? Just like we don't know who killed Epstein in an American prison but we know who killed Navalny in the depths of Siberia? All this looks like our usual doctrine of pathological liars with our so-called evidence, exactly like the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction which never existed!!! Our populations and the rest of the world no longer believe us today....

[@BillOdyssey]

woah

[@johncronin7875]

Proof

[@juanalejandrosegura5857]

@@johncronin7875 "Every year, between 100 and 150 submarine cables are cut. The culprits include environmental accidents, ship anchors, or even fish. Marine fauna can eat the coating - sharks - attracted by magnetic fields. Fortunately, new cable designs take this problem into account. The most complicated cases known are related to earthquakes. In 2006, an earthquake with a magnitude of 7.0 broke eight cables in the area of ​​Taiwan, seriously affecting communications in China. A total of eleven ships spent 49 days working on the repair."

[@Troyxxt]

Germany is pathetic first thing germany did was cry on US shoulders rather then handling situation with china like a true nation

[@BernhardHenger]

As a German, I couldn't agree more: well said! The US clearly stated their intention to destroy NordStream II, without being held responsible. If you don't know the culprit - blame China or the Russians! If you run out of toilet paper, blame the Kremlin😅

[@d.o.g573]

You don’t want it that Germany does it by itself…you really don’t

[@ariisaac5111]

The title is misleading as the interview had nothing to do with China and only talked about Russia as the suspected culprit. What a waste of my time...

[@JensOverby]

Well, I think it is a problem for China that they are likely involved in sabotage

[@jessegpresley]

It's a chinese ship.

[@tashaware6819]

😂

[@surpriseitsus9622]

Because Russia has good reason to cut the cables

[@MarkusMöttus-x7j]

You really ought to improve your deduction skills buddy! 😂 What is Xina doing? (Aiding Ruzzia) Also do you have any hard proof that all of the Intelligence Agencies of the world have missed? Like a memo saying that "Xina will never do something like this with an undersea cable" or are you just full of it?.. 💁🏻

[@KevinNguyen-zn4vv]

Check which vessels went ghosting, and then re-appear out of no where. They use this tactic for illegal fishing, espionage, and now sabotage.

[@mikeharrington5593]

Yeah my first thought was a Chinese pirate fishing boat doing bottom-trawling, but the consensus seems to be deliberate sabotage.

[@LLee0]

Where are your proof for all these sabotage claims? What benefits can China have?

[@KevinNguyen-zn4vv]

​@@mikeharrington5593 They always cross the exclusive economic zone of underdeveloped countries. which may have only 1-2 coastal patrol ships. That's a loophole I would have taken advantage of. Bring in a fleet of a few hundred and account for the loss of a few vessels. LOL.

[@paanikki]

If fact, most commercial ships lost the AIS positioning signal in the same area. Therefore, it is likely because of external jamming than someone deliberately turning the AIS transponder off aboard the ship. Russian air defese uses GPS jamming in Kaliningrad to confuse Ukrainian drones. It also affects the GPS positioning of ships on the Baltic sea.

[@fabricemartin5561]

Nobody knows who destroyed the NordSreams 2 years after the attack but we already know who destroyed the internet cable for sure? Just like we don't know who killed Epstein in an American prison but we know who killed Navalny in the depths of Siberia? All this looks like our usual doctrine of pathological liars with our so-called evidence, exactly like the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction which never existed!!! Our populations and the rest of the world no longer believe us today....

[@crs1474]

100% deliberate

[@Stacey_-bf2mb]

If China was doing so good they wouldn’t be so aggressive

[@birdsnature6421]

Do you think China would use Chinese ships to do this?

[@Stacey_-bf2mb]

@ bush did 9/11

[@cyansadventures]

If China was aggressive they wouldn't allow themselves to be ringed up by US military bases. You know what's aggressive? The Monroe doctrine is. The "Pivot to Asia". Fabricating evidence to start wars (Gulf of Tonkin incident, Vietnam War. Nayirah Testimony, Gulf War). Get your head out of the Western media and go visit those "horrible countries", you might learn something with your own eyes and ears.

[@fabricemartin5561]

Nobody knows who destroyed the NordSreams 2 years after the attack but we already know who destroyed the internet cable for sure? Just like we don't know who killed Epstein in an American prison but we know who killed Navalny in the depths of Siberia? All this looks like our usual doctrine of pathological liars with our so-called evidence, exactly like the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction which never existed!!! Our populations and the rest of the world no longer believe us today....

[@chickenlover657]

@@birdsnature6421 Yeah man, the OP isn't very bright obviously.

[@Reed-sh6wi]

Who benefited when Nord stream 2 was blown up? Perhaps the new supplier at 5x the cost?

[@ankpms830]

Blast gas pipe line: USA sell gas Cut cable: USA sell starlink

[@sergeyb8]

Gas is x5 more now? Please show me the source. Like a chart or something

[@hugoboss917]

The gas wasn't going through there. Do you understand??

[@chilam2512]

German citizen benefited freely from Toxic Russia energy.

[@PoulNoergard]

...except Nord Stream is functioning at 50% capacity. So why is no gas being sent through? Because Germany does not want to buy it through that remaining pipe!

[@krisk7]

Russia did it. The Chinese ship that cut the cables sailed from a Russian port.

[@tashaware6819]

They used gigantic Iranian scissors 😂 .

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

newly installed captain is also russian Its time to stop russian traffic through the baltic

[@godzillamothra5983]

Nope, it was the Amish people, I saw some of them building ship few months ago. I thought they were building noah ark, but now I know why they built a ship for.

[@Antigermaan]

Of course .. probabely you shiuted the same when the nordstream pipeline was blown up ! e​@@edwardgiovannelli5191

[@uniqueaustraliandestinatio1352]

Germany should join with Flnland, Denmark and other countries to begin another 2 year enquiry into the event. Perhaps the expert investigators employed on the Nord Stream sabotage could be engaged also, once that enquiry concludes.

[@NadNorgaard]

You assume they will publish some conclusion - that can't be proven? I can think of reasons not to do that.

[@vladimiremerichsmejkal5525]

They should ask Sikorsky, he knows everything...

[@chipotlefanatic3713]

why would China want to cut out the internet when they need Europe to connect to temu 😂😂😂

[@seauryakumar]

An involved US is a weaker US (the West's Daddy) to do anything about Taiwan. Trump and his promises are a threat to them. Just a speculation although it's so complex that there are a few parties that are capable of this.

[@Mike-zx1kx]

Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.

[@TienyeeTien]

And SHEIN

[@B.D.E.]

Go away PutinBot

[@81Earthangel]

They didn’t blame China. They indicated Russia. And just because it is a Chinese flagged ship doesn’t mean it cannot be used by others.

[@RenoGerry]

Chinese registration, Russian captain, Russian crew. 2+2=?

[@NadNorgaard]

Or how about Chinese Wessel captain bribed by Russian official... Chinese authority may not know.

[@vladimiremerichsmejkal5525]

Call the 'thank you Amerika' Sikorsky, he identified the Nord Stream saboteur instantly...

[@PoulNoergard]

​@@vladimiremerichsmejkal5525 ...except he immediately withdrew it, and said it was a joke.

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

@@PoulNoergard hey, don't pee on the guy's conspiracy theory here... he was really proud of himself for a minute there.

[@Emboaba]

Probably the same who 'benefited ' from ths blown up of gas pipelines in baltic sea

[@okklidokkli]

The pipelines were not in use, and would never been used again. The sabotage only had a symbolic meaning.

[@keirenle]

Some one want to make sure it could never be used again and America would have an exclusive European energy market. Good job the invisible hands, you always do what you do and always get it right

[@juanalejandrosegura5857]

@@okklidokkli Now you're going to have to use Starlink... the destruction of the cables was just a "symbolic meaning"!

[@Halli50]

What boggles my mind is why the Chinese ship that "mysteriously" switched off it's position reporting equipment when it crossed these cables was not forcibly detained and a forensic investigation of it's anchors made to determine if there were any trace materials from the cables to be found on them. If found, the ship's officers and owners would be in for a world of hurt! Ships from that shipping line should be banned from European waters for at least a decade! Frankly, ships from China passing through European waters should have to pay the expense of an escort vessel that ensures they cannot get away with this kind of sabotage.

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

I heard the ship was boarded and is being investigated

[@valeriys01]

Stop eating these magic mushrooms. Its expired stock

[@sherriziegel]

Frankly, what are you gonna do about the US navy blowing up pipelines and the Brits blowing up civilian bridges? What about the Israeli, US, European genocide in Gaza?

[@Riddim4]

@@sherriziegel: please stay on topic.

[@EzraTeter]

It is clearly Russia getting revenge for the U.S. blowing up the Nord Stream.

[@tomwalters2529]

The Chinese owned Russian crewed vessel was detained. AIS clearly shows its pathe and the significant drop in speed as the vessel dragged its anchor over the cables. The anchor was subsequently raised and the vessel sped up just before the Danish navy intercepted it.

[@donpeleas4780]

I do not remember DW being this fast when Nord stream 2 was blown up…but what remains the same is the way how they manipulate the information

[@erikitter6773]

The idea that it might be an attack by a country was alien to the reporters at the time. They learned. There has been fair journalism about Nord Stream in the time since in the EU. Now how is the reporting (not much journalism there) in China, let alone Russia (great job winning that race) or North Korea working out? We have a very flawed system. It is just the best in the world at it.

[@I922sParkCir]

There’s much more evidence. There’s a single ship that stopped right over a cable when it was cut, and then went over another cable, and stopped right over when it was cut again.

[@EnhancedNightmare]

@@I922sParkCir Also there is much more attention on the gaslines and other cables.

[@BRM202]

😅🤣😂🤡

[@Memovox]

@@I922sParkCir Jon Anker Nielsen, the harbor master of the island port of Christiansø (located on the namesake archipelago 18 km northeast of Bornholm), directly stated that he had been forced to remain silent for the past two years about what he had seen before the explosions: "In the first few days, the harbor master, according to his own statement, was told 'not to say a word.' But today, Jon Anker Nielsen can openly share that four or five days before the Nord Stream explosions, he went with the rescue service to Christiansø because several unidentified ships with their transponders turned off had been spotted there, not responding to inquiries. It turned out these were American military ships. When the rescue mission approached them, they were ordered by command to turn back." Think about it: less than a week before the explosion, the U.S. Navy was secretly operating (with transponders off) in Denmark's exclusive economic zone. And all this time, a small Danish port's harbor master knew about it, but was silenced for years. It's interesting whether Swedish, German, and Danish investigators interviewed him. Are his statements in the investigation archives? Or did they cling so tightly to the version about the Polish-Ukrainian diver, Vladimir Z., that everything not fitting into that narrative was discarded?

[@cemdursun]

Those fiberoptic cables are not backups. They carry most of the traffic.....

[@merk3574]

Imagine that first a gas pipe now the internet, I wonder who could have done that

[@MarkusMöttus-x7j]

Kremlin employed Xinese🙌 I know! What a shocker, right?!!🤣🤣🤣

[@scorest8601]

It was Ukraine, do you live in the past ?! It s well documented now​@@MarkusMöttus-x7j

[@NadNorgaard]

Oh dear, this is not first and second. There has been a lot in between. Finland - Estonia cabel.

[@Tiax776]

The Chinese already destroyed a gas pipeline between Estonia and FInland.

[@AhJodie]

Is there a company that is making something more secure than these fiberoptic lines? Oddly, I remember learning about them over 50 years ago with the telephone lines.....

[@misterfunnybones]

Perfect plot for Baywatch. Get the lifeguards to investigate an international sabotage incident. 😂

[@allegrap1054]

😂

[@grahamfisher5436]

The man from Atlantis

[@alexrockstone9035]

​@@grahamfisher5436 ... or undine from Atlantis.

[@hauer54]

The question should be who will pay for restoration of the cable??? The ships owner, the PRC and Russia!!!

[@pauloharo]

I saw a Sailing boat near these cables.

[@henriramonfosse]

You improve security by not having wars.

[@Greenmarty]

My bet, Russia will come with "we can protect your cables if you do what we want" as they did in the past numerous times. I can think of oldest example at the time Russia was still conquering their east part. They sabotaged locals unofficially and offered protection to those who did as they wanted.

[@lorenzomilandri453]

That's literally what mafia does

[@gerhardgiedrojc991]

The fool and his ignorant rants.

[@jtothed8575]

Yet Ukraine blew up Nordstream.

[@willemvanderKooij]

Normally these cables are buried about 1 meter in the Seabed where it cannot be buried stones will be thrower on top of it. . So they are pretty good protected. So in order to gut that cable you need to dig down or blow it bare by water pressure. Not so easy

[@毛凌峰-y3l]

A ship with China flag doesn't mean that chinese operate it or china as a nation is behind it. Modern Ship can have indian flag, Irish captain and belongs to Egyptian company.

[@23.o.d.37]

If you post your comment multiple times, makes it suspicious.

[@jonronaldflores3007]

if your profile name contains chinese characters, makes it suspicious

[@ragesmirk]

There are ways to investigate, however China is "friendly" with Russia

[@BRM202]

🤡

[@毛凌峰-y3l]

@@jonronaldflores3007 Yes because I am a god damn chinese spreaker?

[@chaulong503]

In Southeast Asia, our undersea fiber-optic cable usually breaks off every few months. We used to say to each other, "It's a shark bite."

[@anzelmasmatutis2500]

It is not first time Chinese ship cuts cables.

[@drunkdrftr]

Dummy

[@JayCho84]

​@@drunkdrftr What does that make you??

[@Ddsggcfg]

Emm, it looks like you know everything, but were there any results from the last survey? This time there are hundreds of ships sailing in that sea area during that time period. How can you be sure that the problem lies with that ship?

[@drunkdrftr]

@@JayCho84 pancake

[@John-.-Smith]

@Wiers75q Doesn't matter how many ships were there. If there was one Chinese there that must be it. DW mentality.

[@vladimirchernov5866]

There is no practical way to protect these cables. A ship only needs to drop her anchor and pay out just enough chain that it drags. Drag it across a cable, and the cable will pull apart at a repeater station

[@lastChang]

China 🇨🇳 has many times cut communication undersea cables in the South China Sea connecting Vietnam 🇻🇳 with other countries. Sometimes, up to 3 separate routes of cables got cut at the same time. - China 🇨🇳 also helped Russia to cut a gas pipeline and a telecoms cable connecting Finland and Estonia, using the anchors of the container ship NewNew Polar Bear, causing disuption of energy supply and telecom communications.

[@Sikyu-ye4ns]

source : nonsense.

[@毛凌峰-y3l]

A ship with China flag doesn't mean that chinese operate it or china as a nation is behind it. Modern Ship can have indian flag, Irish captain and belongs to Egyptian company.

[@Didier3826]

BS

[@ankpms830]

Elon musk hired China to do, so he can sell more starlink..😅😅

[@ankpms830]

Elon musk hired China to do, so he can sell more starlink..😅😅

[@Thewhippedhippie]

Man builds comfort Man pulls comfort from himself Will man move past the pulling what others have built?

[@frapkin]

Win for satellite constellation communication businesses. don't you think?

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

only if they already had contracts with starlink. I don't think any governments right now (outside Moscow and Maralago) are seeking business with Elon Musk

[@GeirRssaak]

So many great experts out there!

[@AlanJeffery-y5f]

Oh, for goodness sake. Stop over thinking it. It's simply the Russians causing disruption. It doesn't matter what you call it. What matters is what you're going to do about it.

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

stop allowing them passage through the Baltic. Its the only answer.

[@Jay-j6m2l]

Yeah China, Russia’s friend did it. It was reported that there were Russian sailors aboard already.

[@WongPenasaran]

Elon trying to sell starlink

[@ryanmax-grappler8654]

It was a chinese vessel with a chinese crew and russian crew. The crew knew the anchor was dropped so china must have been aware

[@lorryleaselimited8263]

Two men in a yacht?

[@jphnperel6508]

Thats a difficult question Who did it ??? Support Ukraine with more military equipment

[@maxdout564]

I'm sure it had nothing to do with Olaf talking to Putin about peace.

[@distrologic2925]

Aren't all ships tracked and identified in these waters? Especially in those times any activity in the baltic sea should be monitored.

[@ValinPrezkowski]

The nations of the world have the capacity to track the precise location of every surface vessel at sea in real time. They should also be capable of pinning down the time of the cut to a nanosecond. So who was at those spots when the cables were cut? Do you really think they don’t know?

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

They have. And they have identified a chisese flagged ship as having been in the exact location at the exact time. The ship had just left Russia, and had a russian captain and crew. They also turned off their transponder (illegal) right before approaching the cable.

[@ValinPrezkowski]

@ and …. There ya go!

[@JamesCee]

how long does it take to repair the damaged cable? I doubt they would have to replace the cable

[@DUIDave-s1k]

The cables are on the ocean floor thousands of feet down.

[@jattikuukunen]

A week or two maybe

[@AIBot-d5r]

Teemu has a promotion on new underwater optic fiber cables!

[@DreamEater-cb2cl]

That means Temu product are better than the original

[@tonyatgoogle6076]

Well, they won't know because someone cut the Internet cable😅😅

[@davidconn3222]

War,disable communication

[@tlp3482]

Amazing how the official communication is that they don't know who cut the cables and yet the analyst seems convinced that it's Russia who has done this. Maybe Ukraine did it to motivate Germany and the likes to supply long range weapons. Too coincidental if you ask me

[@MovieViking]

Did you sleep the whole way through? The Chinese ship sailed under Russian led orders and even publicly available data show exactly how they did it by lowering their anchor miles before crossing the cables significantly slowing the ship down. Zero guesswork about, this was sabotage ordered by the Kremlin.

[@Daxter250]

amazing how bots like you with random numbers and letters as names are still allowed on youtube.

[@meteorknight999]

​@@Daxter250says the guy with random number, time to retire being robo, old man

[@allegrap1054]

I’m not a bot and I’m guessing Ukraine 2

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

Do you know what an "opinion" is?

[@jjamericanbulldogsander6718]

Mount underwater fisheye camera lenses every 25 meters or so on the cables just one idea?

[@fredrikbergquist5734]

Anchor: new weapon of mass destruction! 😂😂😂

[@sylvainlanctinfr6616]

Comment: new weapon of mass destruction! 😂😂😂

[@YtubeUserr]

Trum did it. "It was a beautiful cable. It was a great cable. I'm friends with the cable. I cut it. I did."

[@tonyatgoogle6076]

😂😂😂😂 and some would day, its the most beautiful cable

[@nervechews6781]

It's not in our character to retaliate? Please. Of course that's where we start here. Why do Europeans self-deter in this way?

[@TheStormtrooper00]

Attacking communication infrastructure is an act of war...

[@xXcessXx]

Wild accusation without proof, it’s also damaging to the situation is not helping to end the war. Some people are benefiting from the war continuing.

[@MAKAKA2024-b7y]

It was Musk who did it

[@-NEH-]

Yeah. He is frustrated, because no one buys Starlink in these countries. There is a 5G link per every square kilometre even in the deepest forests!😂

[@MissRed92837]

@@-NEH-Yup. Europe is not fan of Musk and his services. They are right, not to let Musk get power over Europe.

[@kennychad2821]

Russia benefits! The EU and NATO better up their security and surveillance of these undersea cables.

[@branimirsalevic5092]

Cable manufacturer benefits.

[@sebastiaanl9876]

Lol? They repair not full new lengtht

[@X786BBF]

@@sebastiaanl9876 Cable repair parties & offshore vessel owners benefit*

[@dirtyharry6297]

🤡

[@backpackpepelon3867]

Starlink mate

[@branimirsalevic5092]

@@backpackpepelon3867 Starlink is about to go out of service. Cables rule.

[@tim_peaky]

We should start checking the cables with remote underwater drones. 24/7

[@LG-th8xt]

bla, bla bla....

[@c2757]

here, here.

[@UsmanKhan-ty4bg]

The purpose is not to protect the cables. The purpose is to catch the Russian ships that are bringing oil despite sanctions. That’s a much more complicated story

[@criticaltheories5222]

Seems like a good argument for Elon's Starlink to be installed

[@MissRed92837]

Exactly. He wants to manipulate the entire world with his Starlink.

[@criticaltheories5222]

@MissRed92837 oh he doesn't

[@knoxtan325]

It’s like gas pipeline thing, blame someone and create more suspicion & rivalry in EU with other nations 😢

[@tengchuankhoo6585]

Paranoid makes people imagine funny things.

[@Mike-zx1kx]

Not only did a Chinese ship cut those electricity cables around 2 months ago but they have admitted it after it became clear nations affected in question had overwhelmingly technical evidences. How about using open sources to find our this is public knowledge and openly admitted by China. They though then said it were a "mistake". This time no one will believe them. Here are what were said by a Swedish miniter last night. Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

illiteracy makes people write funny things.

[@brianmeek5236]

Ban their ship from the ports

[@wisechan1904]

need starlink as redundancy and fast

[@jonronaldflores3007]

starlink bandwidth capacity is nowhere near the capacity of these undersea fiber cable not even remotely close for now and in the future

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

No, we don't need it. And there are other suppliers. You speak as if starlink was something unique or some kind of silver bullet.

[@MissRed92837]

Europe doesn’t want to give power to Musk, like the Americans did. And they are right!

[@michelecampanelli5419]

A cable from Finland to Germany..?? 🤔WHY..?? The optical fiber should pass between Finland and Sweden and then arrive in Germany from Denmark..

[@jeffsmith7369]

Every time the term hybrid warfare is used is just to provide an excuse for not responding.

[@chickenlover657]

My toast burned this morning. I'm sure it was russia.

[@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage]

If there is no accident, NATO artcle 4 must be invoked.

[@ChopinLuke]

Did EU figure out who did Nord Steam? It must be the same party did this!

[@RoadstersRegistry]

Must be Ukrainians They blew up Germany's gas pipelines

[@AronSithole-b1m]

❤😂

[@RussTNails-fw9ds]

Why not a cable for a cable😮

[@LOLBTLOLBT]

Lol this is dw going full cia mouth piece

[@silafaupaulmeredith7251]

It was destroyed by the same people that destroyed Nordstream 2 he he he

[@rei9915]

Nobody can catch the boat..its to fast away😂😂😂😂😂

[@274727]

It has been stopped.

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

The ship has been stopped and boarded by authorities.

[@meissnerflux]

Whoever decides to attack those countries and doesn't want the connecting countries to hear about it quickly. That's who benefits

[@markmd9]

No-one is benefiting but Russia is just jealous.

[@JohnGeranien]

Or Zelensky hating Germany calling her ex

[@markmd9]

@JohnGeranien Zelensky has alibi 😛

[@ianhamilton3113]

@@JohnGeranien Na! It's Russia. Wake up!!

[@ankpms830]

Starlink will of course benefit from this cable cut...😆😆

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

@@ankpms830 I seriously doubt that. The cables will be repaired long before Starlink can establish sufficient infrastructure there.

[@htleong4790]

Who benefit? Satellite connection supplier?

[@王跃恒]

Elon Musk wants to sell more starlink.

[@MissRed92837]

Sell and with it manipulate the entire world. 😉

[@samdherring]

Starlink doesn't have anywhere close to the capacity for data flow that these cables provide. This is someone wanting to cut internet to the countries for destructive purposes only. Russia comes to mind.

[@sclavojar70s80]

And ?!

[@YtubeUserr]

A submarine was waiting for Chinese ship to pass overhead before cutting the cable.

[@tonyatgoogle6076]

Most likely some sort of subs.

[@wycliffew.woduor1748]

Brilliant!

[@sentenced2sail]

Let me guess: Are they deeply concerned?

[@Never-ending_]

EU is such a joke

[@jscorner6815]

Maybe NATO/EU countries should start investing in multiple land and undersea internet cables scattered all over Europe even at high costs making them redundant and impossible to take down all at once so sabotaging them is useless and futile.

[@GodHelpus-s4l]

To my view the suspect is the one who destroyed Nordstream !

[@NoNotAChance]

Since America blew up Norstream2 and everybody pointed the finger at Russia - why not this? Quite frankly, given the way America took out Nordstream2 I would not completely discount America doing this and blaming it on the Chinese flagged ship. I would also be very interested to know what fishing trawlers were in the area as the Chinese flagged ship.

[@ola_pa]

Here we go again with the China/Russia accusation.... 😂😂😂😂 It shows the West desperation...

[@ianhamilton3113]

Or Russia's desperation. It wasn't fairies was it? Wake up!

[@1.4billion65]

What China has anything to do with this?

[@MaunoMato99]

@@1.4billion65 Eh, they cut the other cable and got caught doing it? And now a Chinese ship was tracked to that route at the specific time the cable was cut. That's what China has to do with it, why even comment when you haven't watched the video or any other news for the past 2 years it seems?

[@1.4billion65]

@@MaunoMato99 what do you mean they got caught doing cut the other cable?

[@allegrap1054]

😂

[@reubensher8144]

Why ?

[@23.o.d.37]

Perhaps it was the sawfish named Yi Peng 3 that cut the cables.

[@WalkOverHotCoal]

It has to be Ghyanna. It used the same tactic to damage the Nord Stream pipe lines.

[@arfaouiaymen7142]

what a joke you have become

[@Dani-mw2ws]

Yes what a joke,, the whole world thought that the powerful Russian army could occupy all of Europe in just 6 months

[@ianhamilton3113]

Start with a capital letter and end with a full stop. It'll stop your comment from looking like a joke.

[@IliassRacing]

@@ianhamilton3113 Stop being personally offended by comments on internet when you aren't even the subject. What does correcting their grammar make your comment?

[@ianhamilton3113]

@@IliassRacing I'm not personally offended. I haven't said I'm personally offended. It was just advice.

[@ianhamilton3113]

@@IliassRacing "What does correcting their grammar make your comment?" Helpful.

[@distrologic2925]

If anything this would imply an attack on Finland?

[@PJG-n8e]

China is not in sabotage business if I have to guess us or uk

[@knighthood91]

They are damaging undersea cables to Taiwan, Vietnam and Philippines on a regular basis, though.

[@Mike-zx1kx]

Not only did a Chinese ship cut those electricity cables around 2 months ago but they have admitted it after it became clear nations affected in question had overwhelmingly technical evidences. How about using open sources to find our this is public knowledge and openly admitted by China. They though then said it were a "mistake". This time no one will believe them. Here are what were said by a Swedish miniter last night. Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.

[@UCMpDwp7VEfKXRH3NyAW7kuj]

⁠@@knighthood91Vietnam? The Chinese built Vietnam networks by the way and Taiwan’s biggest trade partner is whom? Take a guess

[@knighthood91]

@@UCMpDwp7VEfKXRH3NyAW7kuj So... what is the point you are trying to make?

[@TheStormtrooper00]

Better call the debate brigade.

[@V8-friendly]

When it snows in your own living room, then the weather is completely out of control! ⛄️

[@Ddsggcfg]

This accident is so strange. If an ordinary transport ship could easily cut the submarine cable in the Baltic Sea, would the driver know that there is a submarine cable under this water and its depth? Or did the Baltic Sea countries inform the ship owner how deep the submarine cable is or restrict the ship's driving direction in advance? If there are no prior warnings or draft limits, how can you enforce the law, What is the logic of enforcement or responsibility? The ship owner may also ask why the submarine cable is buried so shallowly, or because the waves pulled the submarine cable up but which should also be the cable owner's responsibility: Are there any design problems with the burial depth of these submarine cables?

[@ragesmirk]

It's not an accident it's an incident. Perpetrators are named: China and Russia.

[@knighthood91]

Undersea cables aren't buried and their location is publicly known to avoid accidental damage.

[@Ddsggcfg]

@knighthood91 The submarine cable across the Baltic Sea is deployed in a north-south direction, so all passing ships basically have to cross that sea area over this submarine cable. Therefore even if the cable location is known, what is the draft depth limit required? What about the requirements under tsunamis or special sea conditions? The submarine cable deployers of course had to consider these cable burial issues in their design, such as tsunamis or deformation. Unless the sea area is clearly warned, but if an ordinary cargo ship is within the design specifications and does not anchor or drag anchor, and has the right of free navigation in the public sea or exclusive economic zones that must be passed, how to define the responsibility, a design problem or a ship problem?

[@knighthood91]

@@Ddsggcfg The cable is literally lying on the ocean floor, so I don't get why you are talking about draft depth. The only way to accidentally damage it, is by anchoring in an area where you are absolutely not allowed to do so, because of the cable.

[@Ddsggcfg]

@knighthood91 The sea state chart shows that hundreds of ships passed by there at the time of the incident, so that place is obviously not the prohibited sea area you said.

[@davidconn3222]

Satellites next

[@jaapongeveer6203]

Its the chinese, no question.

[@ragesmirk]

Chinese are experts at hybrid warfare. Just look at their incidents with the Philippines

[@drunkdrftr]

Wrong continent

[@nachnamevorhanden3335]

no it was a ship.

[@jkc3738]

@@ragesmirk China is nothing compared to the Philippines...In recent years the Philippine government has fabricated a series of lies about 900 Filipino soldiers defeating 40,000 Chinese soldiers in the Korean War...just to boost the morale of the Filipinos 🤣

[@billinsf88]

⁠@@ragesmirkyou mean like the Nord Streams?

[@bomaite1]

It would be tragic for Russia if some of their cables were damaged, by accident.

[@MajmunskaPosla]

Who cares about Nord Stream, cables are the most important😃