Chinese Bulker Yi Peng 3 | Sailed from Russia | Accused of Severing Two Baltic Cables | REVISED

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@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping Ай бұрын
🚨You can jump to the new section at 17:35.🚨
@flyingbot11
@flyingbot11 Ай бұрын
you missed crucial evidence of the ship dragging its anchor! at 17:10 in the video, the ship encounters a 20 meter high sandbank on the sea floor which momentarily slows the ship down to 4 knots as the drag massively increases. after clearing it, it accelerates back to the normal dragging speed of 6-7 knots. the short stop was there to raise the anchor after which the ship continued underway normally. this is a textbook hybrid warfare move that has perfect deniability with tangible effects. (last time this happened they broke the balticconnector gas pipe) also, as you say in the video, some cables are protected under shipping lanes which is also a reason why the anchor most probably did not affect all cables equally
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping Ай бұрын
@flyingbot11 At what time did the ship cross this 20m sandbags as I have run the track multiple times and don't see one. The ship does not have to stop to raise an anchor and there is no evidence yet that it was an anchor.
@dancooper1963
@dancooper1963 Ай бұрын
@@wgowshipping There is no explicit evidence of them dragging an anchor but a lot of circumstantial evidence that they did do something. Thanks for your info and updates Sal.
@Hansen710
@Hansen710 Ай бұрын
it did not happen in danish water, so we cant acces the ship if we dont have a prove of a crime.. im not sure a accident is a crime.. but that might be why a german canon boat is with the ship today, it might have been in german water it happened it is passing danish water the episode did not happen in dansih water the ancher also have clear damege tranlate some of the danish new story´s they will tell you we have nothing to do with it and we cant do anything about it right now and they have also taken pictures of the ancher
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping Ай бұрын
@Hansen710 The International Convention for the Protection of Submarine Telegraph Cables of 1884 allow this.
@quutjeh54
@quutjeh54 Ай бұрын
An active maritime officer speaking here 🗣️ If the maritime authorities would like to know where they went during the ais blackout they can review if any ships were within radar range of the yi peng 3, then it’s just as easy as requesting those ships if they could share their vdr data of the radars and voila you know where and how fast she was sailing…
@JonasAlexanderson
@JonasAlexanderson Ай бұрын
The Swedish military as well as the Coast Guard has radar surveillance all around Sweden and it's waters. A ship "going dark" must have activated some sort of extra surveillance. The time she stopped could have been an indication of her taking upp the anchor/anchors, you can't d o that under way (the anchor winches are not strong enough to take up when the ship is doing some speed forward).
@quutjeh54
@quutjeh54 Ай бұрын
@@JonasAlexanderson normally a standard anchor winch cannot lift more then 6 shackles of chain + the weight of the anchor, highly doubt that it’s created by their anchor. Also with that depth and at a knot of 5 or 6 your chain and anchor will not be touching bottom even if it’s hanging on it’s bitter end at either 10 or 11 schackles as per industry standarts.
@ttul
@ttul Ай бұрын
Multiple satellite technologies enable tracking of vessels that disable their AIS transponders ("dark ships"), including Radio Frequency (RF) detection that can geolocate ships' radio communications, Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) that identifies vessels through radar signatures regardless of weather conditions, and AI-enhanced detection systems that can analyze satellite imagery and identify ships through their wake patterns with up to 95% precision. The effectiveness of these combined technologies is demonstrated by studies like one in the northern Arabian Sea, where RF tracking revealed that 35% of vessels had their AIS turned off, highlighting how these advanced surveillance methods are crucial for monitoring potentially illegal maritime activities such as unauthorized fishing in exclusive economic zones.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ The US intelligence community would likely want to protect specific details about these surveillance capabilities for several strategic reasons. By keeping adversaries uncertain about detection capabilities, vessels engaged in illicit activities might continue operating in ways that make them easier to track. Knowledge of these capabilities could lead hostile actors to develop countermeasures or change their behavior patterns to evade detection. Additionally, revealing too much detail about technical surveillance abilities could indirectly expose the sophistication level, limitations, and methodologies of US intelligence gathering systems, potentially compromising other intelligence operations or revealing gaps in coverage that could be exploited. In intelligence work, the ability to monitor without others knowing the full extent of your capabilities is often as valuable as the monitoring itself.
@JonasAlexanderson
@JonasAlexanderson Ай бұрын
@ I am not a military man (former ship's pilot with extensive knowledge how sea rescue and coast guard work in Sweden) so I don't know much of our satellite capabilities, if we have any. But I know we have very good radar surveillance systems all around our coast and also know that ships that doesn't show their AIS would be tracked in Swedish waters and in our economic zone by radar.
@JonasAlexanderson
@JonasAlexanderson Ай бұрын
@@quutjeh54 The depth at were they were going is about 40-50 meters, less than two shackles. Even at a depth of 100 meters you can have a anchor down (5-6 shackles out) and then take the ship to a depth of 40 meters and hoist the anchor. That is in line with them going a bit astern shown on the AIS. This is just a guess, but a way I could have done it. (I have 47 years experience at sea, 10 as a captain and 25 as a ship's pilot)
@Ganiscol
@Ganiscol Ай бұрын
5:39 - You would use the anchor precisely for the reasons that a) it works and b) gives you a variety of excuses
@livelurked4103
@livelurked4103 Ай бұрын
Thankyou came here for this comment.
@41istair
@41istair Ай бұрын
'Plausible Deniability' in the legal, political and intelligence parlance.
@FoxtrotYouniform
@FoxtrotYouniform Ай бұрын
correct. and, historically, this is exactly how grey zone actions by the RF and PRC have taken place - with just enough not-technically-military force to get the job done, but not so much as to lose deniability - even if everyone knows. that, btw, is the biggest difference between western grey zone actions and RF/PRC ones. The west, especially the US, like to leave no trace. The RF/PRC like to leave 1000 trails of bread crumbs, and then later focus upon and amplifying those following the false trails to obscure the truth. The west: NordStream 2. RF/PRC: radio isotope poisoning.
@harblewarble6427
@harblewarble6427 Ай бұрын
Was it not mentioned that the water was too deep for the anchor to reach the bottom in the area of the cable, or was the only in the original version?
@stuartbrown2111
@stuartbrown2111 Ай бұрын
like NOrdstream ?
@nhansen197
@nhansen197 Ай бұрын
Dragging an anchor is a great way to destroy cables, and doing it with a ship with known mechanical issues makes for a fairly decent alibi.
@paladro
@paladro Ай бұрын
nevermind the combative geopolitics china and russia offer... too many red flags for it not to be intentional.
@chinathesideyoudontsee8157
@chinathesideyoudontsee8157 Ай бұрын
lol , If you think the Chinese destroyed the cable you are definitely brainwashed ! You probably think Iran want to eliminate trump, Russia blew up Nord Stream 2, The USA are the good guys of the world and elephants can fly . Ask yourself this one question, why would they and what would they have to gain ?
@fredfred2363
@fredfred2363 Ай бұрын
In 150m + deep water? I doubt it.
@Holt817
@Holt817 Ай бұрын
Has Russia or China been caught destroying other countries strategic infrastructure like the USA did with nord stream? I am guessing no. The USA destroyed Germany's future prosperity by destroying the nord stream pipelines. Then tried to frame Russia, did not work. Then they blamed Poland and the Ukraine. How could all of the conclusive and damming evidence against Russia been dismissed and then a smoking gun appear in Polish and Ukraine hands? Do you believe the US or UK would have any problem screwing over their Baltic 'allies' by cutting the two cables in an attempt to frame the Chinese freighter? If I had to put money on it without actual proof or manufactured(CIA approved) proof, I would bet the USA did it.
@robertfrost1683
@robertfrost1683 Ай бұрын
Not at 500 foot depth . They have them on this one.
@SuperSaltydog77
@SuperSaltydog77 Ай бұрын
The top tier level of information and knowledge that Sal gives and shows us is just astounding. This takes hours if not days to acquire and assemble for presentation. Sal, you have no equal in this area. Thanks.
@djremotion2
@djremotion2 Ай бұрын
Usually yes but on this no. It is proven that this ship did it intentionally. Look at investigation that channel named: ms Suukko II - did about this. It is Finnish sea captain who goes every movement piece by piece through and knows the undersea cables, which of many more they did sever than just two. And the Chinese Ship stops and lifts anchor immediately after the last cable is broken. But before that drags it for 400km.
@iainhunneybell
@iainhunneybell Ай бұрын
⁠Sorry, but sadly my Finnish isn’t quite up to following all that is undoubtedly being explained @@djremotion2, as it does indeed seem very thorough
@iainhunneybell
@iainhunneybell Ай бұрын
Ah ha … having tried in Finnish, YT then later gives me an English version, and YES, as @SuperSaltydog77 says, it is VERY revealing… kzbin.info/www/bejne/en2UXneIqsehZ5osi=NxnKCG27ls5zdA9l
@jemijona
@jemijona Ай бұрын
@@djremotion2 Anchors can't be lowered that far. You would loose your anchor trying to go that deep as the anchor chain isn't long enough for that depth..
@djremotion2
@djremotion2 Ай бұрын
@@jemijona not true. Happened already before when another chinese ship leaving from russia dragged anchor and broke our Finnish telecommunication cables that go across to Estonia about half a year ago. If you look at the video I suggested you get exact explanation including all the depths at various points, instead of talking here.
@KasperiVonSchrowe
@KasperiVonSchrowe Ай бұрын
I want to raise a subject about speed. Yi Peng was going over 10 knots and it's speed dropped to 6 knots very rapidly. I don't think it was because of wind and sea state. And after that full stop (anchor raise) they returned from 6 to 10 knots just like that. Speed change was totally intentional or because of something was dragged in the bottom.
@tuunaes
@tuunaes Ай бұрын
Also another ship, Nissos Antimilos, maintained its speed just fine in precisely same area and route and at the same time this ship slowed down.
@hannuhanhi183
@hannuhanhi183 Ай бұрын
Exactly, the heading and speed also fluctuates abnormally compared to other ships in the same area, proving that it drags something heavy.
@ErlingJensen-g4c
@ErlingJensen-g4c Ай бұрын
Ships that overtook (sailed past) the Yi Peng 3 noticed that their anchor was dropped and dragging. They also reported it.
@TheBeefiestable
@TheBeefiestable Ай бұрын
Imagine an entire society based upon that meme where huge obvious things are happening around you but people are only glancing their eyes back at the catastrophe and then back to their immediate task in front of them and saying nothing.
@crinklecut3790
@crinklecut3790 Ай бұрын
My handlers are currently telling me to disagree with you, so……. You’re wrong!
@thefoolishhiker3103
@thefoolishhiker3103 Ай бұрын
Thank you for all the effort you put into making this information available to the wider public outside the shipping industry
@JanneOksanen
@JanneOksanen Ай бұрын
If you go back to the point where the ship suddenly slows down from 11 knots to 7 you will notice it's right where it enocunters the first cable from Sweden to Baltics. Then you will also note that the speed bumps up back to 11 knots after it crosses the last cable running to Germany.
@zrebbesh
@zrebbesh Ай бұрын
Whether accidental or intentional, it should not IMO be possible for a shipping company to cut a cable without paying for its replacement. If it's intentional then additionally there is a crime, but the damage is damage and repairing it should be considered a liability.
@jonmccormick8683
@jonmccormick8683 Ай бұрын
Insurance covers these issues. The Cable and Ship are insured many times.
@unitrader403
@unitrader403 Ай бұрын
@@jonmccormick8683 Insurance does not cover intentional acts..
@adrianthoroughgood1191
@adrianthoroughgood1191 29 күн бұрын
​@@jonmccormick8683all road vehicles are required to have insurance, but it is the insurance of the vehicle at fault who has to pay. So it should be the ship's insurance who pays.
@wasc0783
@wasc0783 29 күн бұрын
@@unitrader403 I'd imagine that varies from country to country. For example, in the UK if you drive drunk and hit someone, the drunk driver's insurance will pay out the 3rd party, but will not pay out the drunk driver and will infact attempt to recoup the claim cost from the drunk driver. So i'd imagine the correct way to handle this is the ships insurance pays out for the damaged cable, but then seeks to recover the claim cost from the ships owners if it can prove it was intentional.
@HughJanus-o3e
@HughJanus-o3e 26 күн бұрын
It’s a declaration of war by the CCP
@0jimmypiffpaff0
@0jimmypiffpaff0 Ай бұрын
Hi Sal, thanks for the video and the new section on Yi Peng 3 stopping - on minute 19:15 - you zoom out and show that the mysterious stop was right in front of Karlskrona - the biggest swedisch navy base....😉
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 26 күн бұрын
Other stops were similarly weird and coincidental. Why so near the entrance to the port bay? Who even changes anchoring locations multiple times? I sailed different boats but never had a reasonable need to change anchoring places, especially during short stops. I care where I drop the anchor and think ahead doing it. Also, the Baltic Sea has a very destructive influence on all transponders of crafts coming from Russia's direction. Whether a ship, plane or bicycle. All suffer critical issues right at or above the Baltic Sea.
@WowIndescribable
@WowIndescribable Ай бұрын
Perhaps when they stopped and drifted on the route, they were actually DROPPING some kind of cutting/dragging apparatus so that when they were apprehended later it wouldn't be present...
@ihdieselman
@ihdieselman Ай бұрын
Or transferring equipment like that and people to another vessel?
@paulmea3166
@paulmea3166 Ай бұрын
Or pulling up the anchor..
@mbjackson8029
@mbjackson8029 Ай бұрын
Took the words right out of my mouth
@tzm1843
@tzm1843 Ай бұрын
Why stop?
@snaplash
@snaplash 29 күн бұрын
@@tzm1843 The anchor windlass might not be strong enough to work with the extra load of the dragging anchor.
@joesligo1516
@joesligo1516 Ай бұрын
I don't know anything about shipping but I've learned so much watching your channel since the evergreen stuff, just so informative in the best way
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 26 күн бұрын
Yeah. Great channel, please keep doing what you do!
@njm3211
@njm3211 Ай бұрын
Hard to believe that a competent master wouldn't realize he was dragging his anchor.
@lawrencejob
@lawrencejob Ай бұрын
Dragging anchor while travelling at basically max speed for the conditions over a wildly variable depth with good apparent turning authority
@FoxtrotYouniform
@FoxtrotYouniform Ай бұрын
I'd actually believe that this master was chosen for incompetence, and then some rando on the ship who is an undercover agent dropped the chain. obviously that's just "source: own brain" but the point is to show that there are ways to do this where the most obvious liability points for the RF/PRC come up false. It could have been intentional, and the master could have been oblivious, both at the same time.
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat Ай бұрын
I hate when I drag my anchor!
@CMDRSweeper
@CMDRSweeper Ай бұрын
If we are talking of New New Polarbear... Then yes it is believable. Incompetent, badly maintained and a history of issues makes you wonder why they are allowed to sail. But as always, correlation does not equal causation.
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade Ай бұрын
and speed was unaffected by the anchor until catching the cables.....
@stringlarson1247
@stringlarson1247 Ай бұрын
Excellent as always. Being able to share MarineTracker with us is great. Thank you.
@phobosmoon4643
@phobosmoon4643 Ай бұрын
I could have sworn you showed the whole route earlier but you didn't mention the full stop. So good edit.
@jimmanley2796
@jimmanley2796 Ай бұрын
@@RHaarFl- The Yi Peng 3 AIS track shows the ship slowing, stopping, and possibly reversing course or backing down after passing over the cut cables … exactly like what would be done if a ship were retrieving something used to cut an undersea cable that it was dragging from its stern …
@pablowasserman
@pablowasserman Ай бұрын
just discovered the channel and watched the last video, now refreshed and saw this one lol. greetings from Argentina!
@phantomkate6
@phantomkate6 Ай бұрын
Oh you're in for a treat. Welcome!
@Islandwaterjet
@Islandwaterjet Ай бұрын
How are things in Argentina is your economy recovering ? Do the people have hope for the future or has your new president lost the popular support ? We hear very little from Argentina would be great to get your first person thoughts on this.
@henryrollins9177
@henryrollins9177 Ай бұрын
​@@Islandwaterjetrecovering? We are going down the drain, buddy...
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 29 күн бұрын
Interesting that so many experts have the answers!
@radiosnail
@radiosnail Ай бұрын
Thankyou Sal'. Our internet and phone communications are so vulnerable to cable cutting. Glad you gave the British a mention for their quick cable cutting efforts at the start of WW1
@da.freiberg8012
@da.freiberg8012 Ай бұрын
Thanks! You even worked in the Bab el Mandeb, so of course I had to drink!
@briangriffiths114
@briangriffiths114 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Sal. I watched and the earlier video with interest and appreciate the addendum.
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping Ай бұрын
Sorry for the error. I must have passed the video and not restarted it.
@patricknorton5788
@patricknorton5788 3 күн бұрын
This is a great channel.
@Euskaltel0526
@Euskaltel0526 Ай бұрын
Thanks for explaining the legal parts of detaining ships of other countries and charts of underwater cables.
@TheUnojoe2
@TheUnojoe2 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for another great analysis of the unfolding situation! Great info, and thank you for presenting the info and tempering your judgement!
@JukkaSundell
@JukkaSundell Ай бұрын
Loitering around russian port could mean that they are taking abroad some new personnel or installing temporary equipment. Turning off transponders could mean, that they are meeting another vessel which also has its transponder turned off. stopping and idling could mean, that they are getting rid off that temporary equipment or/and those extra personnel are leaving the ship. Update: According to WSJ, Yi Peng 3 did drag its anchor at least 100 miles.
@dan-bz7dz
@dan-bz7dz 27 күн бұрын
"According to WSJ"
@Pompomgrenade
@Pompomgrenade Ай бұрын
Thank you. Sal, the confrontation on the high seas is not good but we wouldn't be able to understand what's happening without you😅
@timothygunckel7162
@timothygunckel7162 Ай бұрын
Could be the ship is a distration meant to be in the area of those two cables when they broke to give the appearence of a accidental break while a submarine was down below doing the deed.
@kalaupun
@kalaupun Ай бұрын
No, Americans never frame their enemies for sabotage
@oscarleijontoft
@oscarleijontoft Ай бұрын
Yes, that could absolutely be the case. Hybrid warfare and sabotage is a fact in the region. Maybe that's why the captain is Russian (on a Chinese freighter!), so he could communicate with other dark vessels in the area.
@engagedrandomcitizen561
@engagedrandomcitizen561 Ай бұрын
@@kalaupun 😆
@timothygunckel7162
@timothygunckel7162 Ай бұрын
@kalaupun was not implying americans did it.
@kalaupun
@kalaupun 29 күн бұрын
@@timothygunckel7162 I am
@stco2426
@stco2426 Ай бұрын
Excellent work, Sal. Thanks for your update.
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 Ай бұрын
Suspicious cable cutting in the Baltic Sea. Better call Sal.
@bobsnabby2298
@bobsnabby2298 Ай бұрын
The connection loss happened orher ships too. The cable broke exactly when the ship was close and there were no other ships. Weather didn't effect, other ships passed it. There was a sand bank and forced the ship to slow down because the chain dragged. There was also a course change to dodge Russia's own cables.
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 Ай бұрын
Apparently 5 other or 5 total cables show damage. So they were busy busy bad boys.
@alihautala5541
@alihautala5541 Ай бұрын
If you compare AIS data to other vessels you see that all the ships go "dark" in the same area. It's most likely AIS and gps interference. Gps interference is happening in in the area all the time. Also notice how the ship picks up speed after it stops from 7 to 10 knots. There is a moment where the vessel speed goes down to three knots as it almost gets stuck going over "shallow".
@uploadJ
@uploadJ Ай бұрын
No AIS receiver in range of the ships likely? Doubtful it is GPS related but IDK I'm not there.
@wombatillo
@wombatillo Ай бұрын
@@uploadJ MarineTraffic also uses orbital AIS receivers on satellites and you can see that data if you pay for it. GPS interference is the most likely form of interference. AIS jammers also jamming a satellite receiving AIS would mean that there was a local jammer somewhere in the vicinity. GPS jammers could have been far away and ship GPS antennas are fairly high giving them a far away radio horizon to receive jamming from.
@wyldhowl2821
@wyldhowl2821 Ай бұрын
Well, depending on how long the ship was seemingly halted, I agree it could be a signal "wobble"; I have seen GPS locators do weird circles when the thing it is on is actually perfectly still. People should remember that location by GPS is an estimate, accuracy depending on certain factors. So perhaps it does indicate a stopped ship, or one that's doing some sort of station-keeping, not actually circling. (Depends on the time spent and the distances involved on that wobble; a 10 m wobble on a 100 m long ship is not very significant motion). Another thought is if they experienced some sort of unexpected power outage, that could cause them to stop suddenly, maybe have to drop anchor suddenly, and maybe interfere with GPS and AIS signals being sent too. MV Dali was proof that some of these Chinese vessels are not exactly kept in good running order.
@KiwieeiwiK
@KiwieeiwiK Ай бұрын
@@wyldhowl2821MV Dali isn't Chinese built, owned, operated, or crewed.
@StoltHD
@StoltHD 29 күн бұрын
@@uploadJ - Russians frequently jam GPS and other traffic signals in the Baltic Sea and across the northern parts of Norway, Sweden, and Finland. This is commonly known by anyone who is not in denial.
@whya2ndaccount
@whya2ndaccount Ай бұрын
Two in one day - Great. Thanks for the update!
@calikid3336
@calikid3336 Ай бұрын
Looks like dragging an anchor is being adopted as the next strategically weaponized new thing.
@Holt817
@Holt817 Ай бұрын
Yes, bombs are out. It caused the US too many problems, they have to try something new.
@Hystericall
@Hystericall Ай бұрын
if you really were dragging an anchor, your ship would stop dead in the water or you would lose the anchor and cable altogether. go read up on what an anchor does mate.
@GintaPPE1000
@GintaPPE1000 Ай бұрын
@@Hystericall No it wouldn't. An anchor is designed to hold a ship against breezes or currents. Not arrest a ship's momentum while it's moving at speed, which requires hundreds of times more stopping force. And especially not if the ship's using its engine to continue moving forwards. *You* need to read up on what an anchor does.
@RanEncounter
@RanEncounter 26 күн бұрын
​@@Hystericall You literally should do exactly what you proposed. How can you be so wrong and yet act so arrogant?
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 26 күн бұрын
Apparently, they have such customs in China. An old tradition of sailing with the anchor on the sea bed. And Americans say it is all normal behaviour.
@dusk2dawn2
@dusk2dawn2 Ай бұрын
November 23, 0900 UTC: Picking data from Marine Traffic (cool site!), the "Yi Peng 3" is still anchored in the Danish economic zone but just outside Danish territorial waters. The Danish Navy has swapped the "guardian angel", it is now the "Hvidbjørnen", an inspection/coastguard ship. At least since yesterday the German coastguard / federal police ship "Bad Duben" has also been "hanging around".
@MS-gr2nv
@MS-gr2nv Ай бұрын
Funny you did nothing like that about nordstream... EAT NO GASS AND NO DATA
@Grubnar
@Grubnar Ай бұрын
In case anyone cares, Hvidbjørnen means The White Bear, or Polar-bear.
@Tim_Nilsson
@Tim_Nilsson Ай бұрын
The Swedish KBV 001 is also nearby. KBV = Kustbevakning (coast guard).
@A_Haunted_Pancake
@A_Haunted_Pancake 29 күн бұрын
@@Tim_Nilsson Now (Nov. 25th) also the German Coast Guard Cutter 'Bad Bramstedt'
@natehendricksen3338
@natehendricksen3338 Ай бұрын
Thanks Sal. Great report.
@TheVigilant109
@TheVigilant109 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the update Sal. Very interesting
@JohnInJax
@JohnInJax Ай бұрын
Wow! Who knew . . . shipping is interesting, thanks to you.
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 Ай бұрын
When you want deniability you don't drag your anchor in the most effective and efficient way to cut the cables. You pick a method that will work but not make it obvious. But their locations at the times of the cuts, their decrease in speed over the cuts, and going dark are quite solid circumstantial evidence of their intentions. The Chinese ship, but with a russian captain is merely further circumstantial evidence. I'm sure the investigators will come across much more. ATACMS was chosen so it could be spoken as "attack 'ems." They have quite the sense of humor in the army. For instance, the TOW missile is documented in army vernacular as "Missile, TOW."
@NoneyoBisniss
@NoneyoBisniss Ай бұрын
Yeah. Cutting a submarine cable is the equivalent of hitting a half inch bullseye on a stadium sized dart board. Ships just don't drop anchor in such adverse weather conditions and in such sensitive areas. 🙄 FOHWTBS. 😒
@glenmcgillivray4707
@glenmcgillivray4707 Ай бұрын
Why might you stop at sea? Why to offload some specialist officers who know what to do. I'm not saying that it happened for sure, it could be a Russian sub easily enough. But at the same time the timing? The pause? Yeah, it looks like they onloaded and offloaded some things to reduce suspicion.
@quarkedupphoton236
@quarkedupphoton236 Ай бұрын
Additionally if the cables were cut, they would have severed data communications. The routers on either end would time-stamp when they lost connection and this can be compared when the vessel was over the cable area.
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 Ай бұрын
That’s how they worked out the ship. Crazy triangle path the ship took makes it look obvious
@daviddunkelheit9952
@daviddunkelheit9952 Ай бұрын
TOW = Tube-launched Optically-Tracked Wire-Guided (Missile)
@sircorn4248
@sircorn4248 23 күн бұрын
I am not into the ships subject but like how you present it: straight facts, no politics, no watering water and very interesting even for dilettantes like myself.
@supadupahilton6848
@supadupahilton6848 23 күн бұрын
The fact that they inflicted damage on cables burried well in excess of 500 feet depth is a pretty clear indicator that it was intentional. No ship would have an anchor out (let alone 500 -600 feet of anchor line) and not be aware of it. If it was some other contraption (hoisted up during the stop), that's pretty much a slam dunk. These types of covert attacks are a page right out of Sun Zu's "Art of war" book and absolutely in character with how the Chinese roll.
@heyinway
@heyinway Ай бұрын
Submarine with a rov, equipped with pincher to cut cables, shadowed the bulk carrier. Signature noise of sub hidden by carrier propeller noise. Carrier stopped to allow submarine to retrieve rov. Submarine waits for next carrier northbound and shadows it out of the area.
@rosen9425
@rosen9425 Ай бұрын
That sounds like a very complex operation, but it's crazy enough to be true these days
@daviddunkelheit9952
@daviddunkelheit9952 Ай бұрын
Sounds plausible to me. Probably didn’t have communication between the ship and sub just synchronized timing so that there wasn’t entries in log.
@jackmiller8851
@jackmiller8851 Ай бұрын
@@daviddunkelheit9952 i mean theres no plausible need or method for comms between the two, commercial cargo vessels port calls are readily available and easily tracked by sonar + AIS. would be easy to piggyback without any collaboration.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. Ай бұрын
Where did you learn this?
@ibot2157
@ibot2157 Ай бұрын
Crazy how you just made that up and how many people want to believe it.
@pekka5310
@pekka5310 Ай бұрын
Ship was changing its course like tacking to avoid its own lowered anchor chain. You see that by zooming close and heading.
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ Ай бұрын
Probably important to see what other boats and ships were around her during the times when she was stopped without apparent cause. Someone could have delivered/ removed equipment during those times or met her to use her to cover an underwater boat or device from detection. Her 'going dark' after the cable damage will be shown to originate from an electrical "problem" which also deleted all her own data regards her operation. The whole world knows the BS which is going on but nobody is doing anything about it for fear their own shipping will be affected in retaliation. That must change or the BS will continue or worsen. There is no innocence when somebody intentionally does wrong even when their actions are ostensibly legal.
@ErlingJensen-g4c
@ErlingJensen-g4c Ай бұрын
You are right about fear of retaliation. The largest container shipping company Danish Maersk Line has deep cooperation with China
@wolfgangolesch8881
@wolfgangolesch8881 Ай бұрын
there are more possible explanations for that , like they figured they accidentally droped the anker and solved that issue by losing that compromising anker there totally /and or equipmant or just needed time to solve that misshap. At least that all seems to be good explainations for plausible deniabilty
@ErlingJensen-g4c
@ErlingJensen-g4c Ай бұрын
@@wolfgangolesch8881 No the anchor was retained. Now Yi Peng 3 is at anchor in Kattegat surrounded by two navy ships and video of Yi Peng 3 here shows the portside anchor is in place, but it is heavily damaged/deformed
@SeanWWK
@SeanWWK Ай бұрын
The timing and speed changes are pretty damming evidence that Yi Peng 3 was involved in the cutting of the cables, whether directly by dragging anchor or was covering for submarine. It should be held until seabed has been investigated and worked out possible causes of breaks in cable.
@longfang98
@longfang98 14 сағат бұрын
Sure thing Mr Arm Chair Admiral Sir /s
@Daveyboy1066
@Daveyboy1066 Күн бұрын
They call them "grey zone events" rather than acts of war so they don't have to take any action in response.
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 Ай бұрын
Seems like the sort of solid two unlimited friends would do for each other.
@filmbuffo5616
@filmbuffo5616 Ай бұрын
China is not at war with anybody.
@mukkaar
@mukkaar Ай бұрын
@@filmbuffo5616 So?
@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062
@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Ай бұрын
​@@filmbuffo5616Every country has international affairs, doesnt need to be war.
@davidh4374
@davidh4374 Ай бұрын
​@@filmbuffo5616 but it's unlimited friend is
@skutchBlobaum
@skutchBlobaum Ай бұрын
Sorta like committing a genocide you mean ?
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Ай бұрын
The metal of the anchor have been twisted. You can see that in pictures published by Danish media. There have been minimum one Danish warship very close to it since it stopped in Kattegat and last hours also been seeing an additional German warship next to it. That´s highly unusual in Danish waters. If you look at Marine trafficking sites you will see that Both Danish waters and entire Baltic's are cram filled with warships right now,. There is more to this than US media portray.
@FoxtrotYouniform
@FoxtrotYouniform Ай бұрын
if nothing else, it certainly speaks a to the expectations of local national leaders. While we can't make concrete statements about what they know in their own heads, we can guess about a few possibilities. For instance, it may be feared that without a visible military presence there may have been opportunistic escalation of damages inflicted by this or other ship. Local leaders may also have some reason to believe that this and other 'grey-zone' attacks on NATO nations are actual shaping attacks which may transition to a hot war at some point soon. There's plenty more suppositions we could test, but those two seem to me the most likely. it even matters little if this all ends up being an unfortunate accident somewhow, as it is plainly clear that local leaders perceive such a uniform intentionality (rightly, imo) to the RF and PRC grey zone actions that any incident involving them or their proxies is treated as intentional at the outset. Knowing how Putin and Xi love to operate, I'm suddenly finding the back of my brain speculating if these NATO national responses are the actual goal of the shaping operations currently taking place, hoping that NATO warships might engage a vessel that can later be asserted to have been a totally innocent peaceful civilian. I could envisage those two leaders using an incident like that as casus belli to escalate hostilities.
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Ай бұрын
@@FoxtrotYouniform Where to begin. I gave your comment a "like". There is no doubt that the Danes have wanted to make sure they were on them, should they try to do something in Danish waters but it were no coincidence the Danish warship came to them so fast. It were hours before that German chancellor were on phone with POOtin, first cable were severed (The Finland-German one) AND I do not think I am wrong when concluding that marine traffic monitoring shows that the ship that fits the bill are Yi Peng 3, furthermore Sweden have had Russian U boat incidents in their waters and the Estonia ferry going down with large casualties under circumstance that to this day are cause for speculation...I feel confident when assuming they have the Baltic Sea pretty well covered with listening equipment at this time, thus most likely been able to listen to what happened in real time. A few hours before first cable were cut the German Chancellor were on the phone with POOtin. No reason to talk to POOtin at this point. His intentions are clear, he wants to wait until his puppet, that should be at Guantanamo IMO, moves into the WH before wanting to talk to anyone. Obama (and UK) "allowed" POOtin to take Crimea and that were a BIG mistake. If you give a dictator a finger, he will go for the arm and if you allow the arm to be taken, then head and body next. IMO there are no way around it. The free world needs to put own boots on the ground in Ukraine ASAP. POOtin are benefiting of USA´s constant free world undermining support for an Israel that now controls an area over 300% larger than their UN recognised borders allow. A nation that breaks UN charter, International law, violate human rights, rules of war and are led by an ICJ deemed war criminal with a global ICC arrest warrant on his head when USA SHOULD defend UN and the UN charter and truly fight the Russian dictator that are an ICJ deemed warcriminal with an ICC global arrest warrant on his head that have taking his nation into an Budapest Memorandum and UN charter, International law breaking war where they violate human rights and rules of war. The US lobby laws that have caused a situation where anyone with money can buy the two parties opinions, from Israel to fossil fuel companies, have short circuited the US democracy and US objectivity and ability to have a moral and ethical coherent stance. Last 60 days USA have been able to pledge over 25 billion taxpayer Dollars and 50 F 16´s to Israel and their illegal activities while peanuts in comparison have been donated to the fight for an independent democratic nation that have been illegally and unprovoked attacked by a rouge dictator trying to get his population to focus on anything but his own mafia extortion of Russia´s assets. USA have become a lame duck and it´s "red lines" hollowed out by it´s own actions and inaction's. USA have used a lot of it´s powers to constantly shield Israels illegalities and many of US allies have since Trump last time were in power have had difficulties taking USA´s words seriously. USA basically have created the power vacuum POOtin navigates in. Explain how it could be that several European nations almost 3 years ago were ready to donate costly (for them with the prices they paid for them and their selling value) F 16´s to Ukraine but USA prevented it for almost 2 years!? While on the surface for years demanding European nations should do more!? Explain why European nations since beginning of the war have been standing in line to buy ammunition from USA so they could donate what they had of it to Ukraine and USA in almost three years have not been able to ramp up existing production facilities to more than 25% of what Russia are producing per month!? AND the prices of the little USA sell have insane mark ups! There is something more than rotten and it are not in the state of Denmark! I think many have difficulties explaining how the party of McCarthyism now are led by a POOtin loving leader. Biden working against free world boots on the ground. Newertheless. This is where we are now. I hope European nations form a coalition of the willing with Australia, Canada, Japan, South Korea and put own boots on the ground in Ukraine very fast. Now it´s not only Russians but also North Koreans that are "unaliving" Europeans in Europe but also either China performing sabotage against critical infrastructure against 4 NATO nation OR POOtin that allows himself to use a Chinese vessel as cover for his sabotage. In reality I believe that this are NATO article 4 and/or 5 territory and then note how this are not in US media. USA have become a lame duck and as said that are the power vacuum POOtin feels he can operate in. History seems to repeat itself. Some thought a certain German leader in the 30´s could be made deals with and American industrialists, like Ford expressed admiration for him...hm hmm, Musk. Last time it took a direct hit a Pearl H for USA to wake up, I hope they learned something by it but do not seem so. Reality are that the longer we wait the higher the cost both in suffering and financially. Americans seems to have the idea they have contributed the most but numbers don´t lie and someone are playing divide and conquer preventing a better world from emerging both when it comes to conflicts and when it comes to transition to the now CHEAPER emission free energy forms mega windmills offer lucky nations like Australia, USA, Canada that subsidise fossil fuels hard with taxpayer money. Are USA a firce for good anymore or are USA in reality placing themselves in same corner as Russia, China, Israel, North Korea. That is the question both POOtin and rest of free world seek an answer to. If USA do not decisively soon finds the right answer to this question a large and maybe final conflict can come. POOtin can rattle all he want but may never doubt if Russia gets pulverised in hours if he fires a single nuke. I conclude that current lack of action in the baltics right now are based on a lame duck USA (and Germany and France) and thus POOtin can become even more emboldened. And the American population in large have NO clue of reality because media are as corrupted as the politics. Innocent people are dying in Gaza and Ukraine and Americans want cheaper gas at the pump. The undemocratic kleptocracy bamboozle in full effect. ONLY POOtin, Xi, Kim Jung Un and Nethanyahu are laughing at this point.
@FoxtrotYouniform
@FoxtrotYouniform Ай бұрын
@@Mike-zx1kx that is a heck of a long post, so I wont be able to read and respond fully for a while - busy trying to get my junky chainsaw to run - but I saw it, and I will read it when I can.
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Ай бұрын
@@FoxtrotYouniform Looking forward to your response. Please remember that only a true friend will tell you truth even when it might hurt. An enemy will happily stay silent while one fail. Chop that wood! No one can predict if it will be Indian summer or freezing cold winter anymore.
@uploadJ
@uploadJ Ай бұрын
@@Mike-zx1kx Um, does everyone just forget 10 month 7th day of 2023 event?
@sumiland6445
@sumiland6445 Ай бұрын
Rewatching the video 😀👍 My guess you can't even tell us what yt had a "problem" with ... read show notes: revised section 17:33 to 19:38
@nycameleon
@nycameleon Ай бұрын
This extra info was super informative. The ship just stopped, probably pulling something in that got knocked loose in the waves... A proper sabotage would cut loose the chain on whatever was being dragged and not slow down.
@AllNighterHeider
@AllNighterHeider Ай бұрын
Thank you
@Hystericall
@Hystericall Ай бұрын
@@nycameleon you're making an unwarranted assumption based on your bias that the ship is already guilty.
@0LoneTech
@0LoneTech 25 күн бұрын
@@Hystericall Not just one. His "proper sabotage" leaves more evidence and complicates the attack.
@brucemacarthur8758
@brucemacarthur8758 Ай бұрын
Thank you this was a eye opener in warfare, not that this was warfare i just never thought about this potential.
@peterluckedissing3535
@peterluckedissing3535 Ай бұрын
She most likely anchored 2nd time for Bunker or maybe the first time... its normal to bunker at anchorage at Ust Luga . Best regard former tanker officer / now marine pilot in Denmark
@VladimirStepanov-e6h
@VladimirStepanov-e6h 3 күн бұрын
She is now at the North sea abeam of cape of Hanstholm of Denmark steaming slowly (6-7 knots) Southwestward.
@larsoleruben
@larsoleruben Ай бұрын
Wow, I am Danish and live in Denmark. But I got more info from you than from the Danish authorities, who basically says “no comments” Could the ship have dumped something when it did that mysterious stop? And are somebody looking for that?
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 Ай бұрын
I would assume a vessel with very good side-scan sonar will be taking a close look at that location.
@RebelCowboysRVs
@RebelCowboysRVs Ай бұрын
Thats a lot of ocean floor to search an likely a very small target to find. Possible but not an easy task.
@frictionpeg
@frictionpeg Ай бұрын
Sal, Any news of the US sabotage of the Russian gas pipeline in the Baltic?
@Holt817
@Holt817 Ай бұрын
Your government has not received their talking points from the US embassy yet, I would guess.
@Hazelnut_surprise
@Hazelnut_surprise Ай бұрын
Is there tangible evidence that communication cables were damaged ? Has Danish internet/ communications suffered from restrictions for users ?
@donerskine7935
@donerskine7935 Ай бұрын
Very interesting, informative video.
@robinkruskol2751
@robinkruskol2751 Ай бұрын
What do you think about the ship actually being boarded and the crew being arrested? And the fact that they were all russian? Thats a huge part of the story isnt it
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Ай бұрын
That certainly suggests responsibility.
@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062
@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Ай бұрын
Doesnt tell you anything at all, since ship crews are often not from the same country like the ship they are on.
@MusicalMemeology
@MusicalMemeology Ай бұрын
@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062ok comrade
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 Ай бұрын
@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 But crews are also rarely from a single country either. It will be interesting to see what their background is. Any "former" FSB or GRU members etc.
@burritoxl6056
@burritoxl6056 Ай бұрын
Source for this claim?
@vorteco7692
@vorteco7692 Ай бұрын
Sal, thank you for the information. I try to comment even though I have nothing to add because it helps the channel. I hope you have a good week! Happy Thanksgiving! Eat all the things!!!!!
@pabloapostar7275
@pabloapostar7275 Ай бұрын
I was in a "project management two-day course" taught by a man (Ron LaFleur?) who managed the "new" build for a cable layer for the us navy during Johnson's admin (he said it was the only time a ship was built under budget and on schedule; he was actually employed by Raytheon at the time). The ship was to be used to lay a sonar cable system east of Spain to track Russian submarines in the Mediterranean. The man said that the project got canceled by Nixon because someone told Nixon that the Russians only had to drag an anchor across the cables to destroy the system. Nixon liked that story and cancelled the system. I didn't get the story as to "why that's wrong" but the impression the man gave was "that's wrong." Edit: He didn't describe the system or how the ship was laying the cable (buried?). He did say Nixon scrapped the ship (presumably sold to his financial supporters; similar to what happened to all the state of the art new equipment that had been installed at Hunters Point shipyard that Nixon ordered shuttered (security issues), according to the old guard at my shipyard that would have transferred to Hunters Point).
@Leshic2
@Leshic2 27 күн бұрын
This is outstanding information!
@georgecarlson1460
@georgecarlson1460 Ай бұрын
Sam! Love your channel! Short version of my life history. Long been interested in maritime matters. Applied to USMMA in1962 (admittedly as a "back door" try for US Navy line officer commission -- denied for not having 20/20 vision uncorrected which was required at the time). Maintained ongoing interest in maritime affairs as a US Marine Corps officer. Taught "Seapower & Maritime Affairs" at UCLA NROTC 77-81. Retired 1990 (yes, I am a dinosaur!). But love your channel on the current world of maritime goings-on. Hard (but not impossible) to have innocent presence over two cable cuts. Glad the Danes are holding the ship while more investigation is undertaken. Would not be surprised by either result -- unconventional warfare damage or innocent coincident. Please follow up!
@randallreed9048
@randallreed9048 Ай бұрын
Once again, Doctor Sal, you bring clarity and precision to a murky story. Thank you!
@christophmahler
@christophmahler Ай бұрын
Nazi avatar.
@davegaetano7118
@davegaetano7118 Ай бұрын
If cable cutting equipment had been jettisoned from this ship, how hard would it be to find it on the seabed?
@oscarleijontoft
@oscarleijontoft Ай бұрын
Close to zero possibility if attempted by civilians. It's deep, it's cold and it's rough seas nearly all the time. It would have to be a joint military endeavor, which would be extremely costly and therefore very unlikely.
@davegaetano7118
@davegaetano7118 Ай бұрын
@@oscarleijontoft Thanks.
@BogardanLord
@BogardanLord 22 күн бұрын
Good informative video❤
@jfmezei
@jfmezei Ай бұрын
Fixing undersea cable generally involves adding an extension to it. A robot will fully sever the cable and attach hooks to each side of the cut. One side is lifted to sea level to a cable repair ship where an extension is attached to the cable. The cable is lowered back to seabed (with other end of extension remaining on ship) and the grapple then lifts the other side of severed cable to the ship where it is attached to the other end of the extension cable and then lowered back to seabed leaving a cable that was longer than before due to extension. The deeper the sea, the longer that extension needs to be.
@jonmccormick8683
@jonmccormick8683 Ай бұрын
If the anchor pulled on this cable hard enough to stop a ship = you are looking at miles of moved and stretched cable.
@hughjardon5101
@hughjardon5101 26 күн бұрын
1. Look at the speed of the other westbound vessels. They do not slow significantly, if at all. So head winds/currents/sea state seems an unlikely reason for Yi Peng 3 to slow down. 2. On replay all vessels are dark in that stretch on Marine Traffic, not just the Yi Peng 3. This is probably down to no VHF AIS coverage from shore-based stations at that time. 3. Strange how Yi Peng 3 came to a stop at exactly 08:30 UTC, almost like it had a time to RV with something. It then stayed there for EXACTLY 1 hour before continuing on its way, straight back up to its normal cruising speed of around 10 kts.
@andrekeefer2034
@andrekeefer2034 28 күн бұрын
They sure got very fast at investigating this cable incident, but they were very lackadaisical about investigating the North Stream pipeline sabotage.
@finlanderxx
@finlanderxx 27 күн бұрын
This time the authorities were on an alert for these kind of incidents
@dan-bz7dz
@dan-bz7dz 27 күн бұрын
@@finlanderxx BS. The Swedish authorities classified their findings
@Rirozaj
@Rirozaj 27 күн бұрын
What makes you think so?
@heyhoe168
@heyhoe168 19 күн бұрын
​@@finlanderxx this time they were not scared to actually find the culprit.😂
@majfauxpas
@majfauxpas Ай бұрын
Just happened to be over two different cables when they were severed? Went dark? The plot thickens!
@gerryjamesedwards1227
@gerryjamesedwards1227 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure how accurate it is, or what difference it makes, but some outlets are reporting that the skipper of the Yi Peng is Russian.
@sumiland6445
@sumiland6445 Ай бұрын
@@gerryjamesedwards1227 🤔
@Kim-J312
@Kim-J312 Ай бұрын
I read the caption of the ship is a russian
@alihautala5541
@alihautala5541 Ай бұрын
What I was reading was that the pilot was Russian and captain was in fact Chinese. We will just need to wait and see what was the case.
@margaretkneller4670
@margaretkneller4670 Ай бұрын
maybe both-dual
@steveclark8731
@steveclark8731 Ай бұрын
Nice Easter Egg around 5:00+. "Rigorous maritime standards,..." and probably "beyond the environment". Good information and good humor. Thanks Sal.
@Gscalenut
@Gscalenut Ай бұрын
Coincidence? Russian captain, Russia's recent sabotage attacks in Europe. Tracking indicates that the anchor was dragged, speed reduced to around 3.5kts in vicinity of cables. Anchor stowed, speed increases to 11 kts.
@dan-bz7dz
@dan-bz7dz 27 күн бұрын
What about the depth though?
@Direnth
@Direnth 27 күн бұрын
What kind of sabotage of Russia are we talking about?
@kevintang5473
@kevintang5473 27 күн бұрын
Where do you read that the captain is russian? (not accusing you are wrong, just want to know what's the source. I tried looking up but can't find any information about its captain or crew)
@eltiburonson
@eltiburonson 26 күн бұрын
Not evidencies as there are not about USA and vassals destroy Nordstream 2
@HoseTheBeast
@HoseTheBeast 25 күн бұрын
⁠@@DirenthElectric warfare for example. As a finn I can say we’ve had to put up with that shit for YEARS. Way before this war of 2022. GPS jamming across eastern Finland. Strong enough that commercial planes can’t fly over that part from time to time. Also we had a suspicious string of water tower and other water facility break ins this year. Nothing stolen, nothing broken just across the country break ins into water facilities. Russian agents have conducted arson attacks in Poland, Lithuania, Germany, Czechia and Latvia atleast. Do you not read the news?
@cadmanchannel
@cadmanchannel Ай бұрын
They may have stopped to allow the crew to release the equipment under the ship used for cutting. Good place to look.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew Ай бұрын
It is also possible the Yi Peng 3 was a red herring running cover as a distraction for a submarine which was already waiting at depth. All sorts of monkey business could have transpired while the AIS was unavailable.
@cadmanchannel
@cadmanchannel Ай бұрын
@@wtmayhew Could be. I was thinking they may have used an ROV and (as they expected to be searched) dropped it and disconnected the cord. The search team should send divers under the ship.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew Ай бұрын
@ My initial thought was ROV too, but a friend pointed out it might be difficult to get rid of the evidence of the rigging and its control system. Coordinating with a submarine might be simpler, only requiring synchronizing clocks to both be in then same location concurrently, though they might have used a hydrophone which could be jettisoned overboard after the operation was completed.
@briangodfrey7424
@briangodfrey7424 Ай бұрын
@@wtmayhew You would not even need to synchronize clocks. Just follow the plan. The submarine knows exactly where you are. 🙂 And using a noisy surface vessel to mask a sub would not be a novelty, either. As I posted in the unedited video, I've been on a tug that did just that. But this stopping maneuver does make it look like the ship was getting rid of evidence. Also, notice that they were going 7kts before stopping and 10kts after.
@djinn666
@djinn666 Ай бұрын
Doubt the ship and its crew are directly involved. It doesn't make sense politically (think about who has beef with Europe right now) and it would be too obvious and unnecessarily complicated for a covert operation. Anyone with a tiny bit of foresight could see that the ship would be stopped, searched and its crew questioned. Why would they let their operatives be captured? Also a 2-nation collaborative effort is a lot more work when doing it alone would've accomplished the same goal.
@mikedevlin2048
@mikedevlin2048 Ай бұрын
The period that she went dark would correspond quite well with being relatively close to Kalingrad….
@sparkyfromel
@sparkyfromel Ай бұрын
well that's not necessary significant , there is a lol of GPS interference around there because of the war just saying !
@JaniOllikainen
@JaniOllikainen Ай бұрын
@@sparkyfromel I think Mike's point was that there was nothing special going dark and not sus thing.
@ericfielding2540
@ericfielding2540 Ай бұрын
Kalingrad has powerful radio transmitters that interfere with GPS signals. It is possible that their transmitters also interfere with AIS. I think the AIS tracking is done from satellites, so it would be easy to jam the AIS signal intentionally or accidentally.
@oscarleijontoft
@oscarleijontoft Ай бұрын
Interference is a nice way to put it. It's actually active Russian jamming.
@ericfielding2540
@ericfielding2540 Ай бұрын
@@oscarleijontoft Yes, the Russians are actively jamming and even spoofing GPS signals. It is not clear whether they are intending to jam the AIS or it is a side-effect of their other transmissions.
@ToIsleOfView
@ToIsleOfView Ай бұрын
This is another reason I subscribed to your channel. You add deep detail to any shipping problem. There is plenty of suspicion around this Chinese ship. It needs to be detained for as long as it takes to inspect the ocean floor and discover exactly what happened.
@C2Baird
@C2Baird Ай бұрын
Facts!! Thanks mate, keep up the great work...stay safe!
@AllNighterHeider
@AllNighterHeider Ай бұрын
Thanks again Sal
@gimle5535
@gimle5535 Ай бұрын
Strange how chinese ships have such troubles in the Baltic sea - last year NewNew Polarbear had a similar accident and dragged their anchor across a gas pipeline and telco cables to Finland.
@boringpolitician
@boringpolitician Ай бұрын
Wow, you're covering this! It's been all over the news here in Norway, even though the cable cutting doesn't affect us much. It still is important; they'll do that to us (Norwegians) next. Well done on noticing that there's two cables! The major one has been a lot in the media, the smaller (Swedish Lithuanian) one has hardly been mentioned. BTW a German war ship, Bad Dueben, has also bunkered up alongside the Yi Peng 3 vessel. A lot of eyes are on the ship right now. That, and they will probably inspect the area (sea bottom) where she mystically stopped.
@tedzehnder961
@tedzehnder961 Ай бұрын
Sounds like Russia wants to punish Lithuania.
@mikapeltokorpi7671
@mikapeltokorpi7671 Ай бұрын
Apparently, they were dragging the anchor over five cables. Missed the 1st one just slightly and did not manage to cut through number three and four.
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 Ай бұрын
Wow! How could this be done without sinking the ship from getting caught up?
@jm-holm
@jm-holm Ай бұрын
@@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 I hope that's some kind of joke rather than not understanding how much momentum that ship has with its speed, weight and cargo. It will barely slow down. What might snap is the chain or the anchor itself, which happened in both cases. New New polar bear lost the entire anchor. Yi Peng 3 has a bent anchor.
@danam0228
@danam0228 Ай бұрын
Authorities are reporting this already?
@michael931
@michael931 Ай бұрын
Even in 550 ft of water? How long is the chain?
@markkulehtinen4733
@markkulehtinen4733 Ай бұрын
@@danam0228 Not that I've seen. Just some social media accounts. I don't know if this is accurate info or not until authorities confirm it.
@VladimirStepanov-e6h
@VladimirStepanov-e6h 16 күн бұрын
By the way. Easyest technique to blow anything on a bottom of the sea is to lower so called "cord charge" from surface. Each and every pipeline and cable are precisely drawn on a sea charts (maps).
@grahamkearnon6682
@grahamkearnon6682 Ай бұрын
From my navy experience of the Baltic some forty years ago, it is a busy naval sea, I would guess that a recording of sub sea noises exists, be it one of the local navies or the Brits or Yanks tooling around below.
@daviddunkelheit9952
@daviddunkelheit9952 Ай бұрын
SOSUS is the system of submarine microphones… don’t know how much of that is in the Baltic. Mostly in the Atlantic.
@christophmahler
@christophmahler Ай бұрын
Totally useless in the case of Nordstream...
@FoxtrotYouniform
@FoxtrotYouniform Ай бұрын
@@christophmahler not totally useless. I'm sure it picked up our guys laying those explosives perfectly well, but since it is also our guys who run the system what do you expect them to say? btw, yes I think we blew it up, and I also am in favor of having done so. The risk of especially central European leaders failing to respond to the situation at the time was a credible risk, and one with extremely negative global ramifications for the west at large - not just Europe. Nobody knew that the winter of 22/23 would end up mild. The Germans especially were really freaking out about the risk environment they faced with the dual risk of a nearby major war involving a trading partner, and a freezing populace and imploding economy if they supported the victim of aggression by said trading partner. Since the freezing populace and imploding economy were potential consequences of war, a decision to simply avoid supporting the war and thus avoid the consequences could have been very enticing to them. Especially considering that the Germans have a modern cultural bend towards peace, one might be forgiven for thinking that the Germans would rather make concessions than fight.
@mnp3713
@mnp3713 Ай бұрын
is there a formula to calculate anchor chain dragging degree from shiphull: speed, meters and mass of anchor chain and anchor. 170m deep and 265m of chain makes 40 degrees drag angle
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping Ай бұрын
I am sure there is, but no one that seafarers would ever use.
@Dan-dg9pi
@Dan-dg9pi Ай бұрын
Sal, thanks for the addendum. Indeed, a rather damning addendum. There will be some very interesting meetings coming up with the Chinese ambassador to Copenhagen. We certainly are seeing China and Russia joining forces against Western countries.
@ErlingJensen-g4c
@ErlingJensen-g4c Ай бұрын
The captain/crew cannot have been unaware that the anchor was dropped. The chain has made a lot of noise against the side of the ship
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff Ай бұрын
There are people up there as well.
@Hystericall
@Hystericall Ай бұрын
why do you assume the anchor was dropped?
@ErlingJensen-g4c
@ErlingJensen-g4c Ай бұрын
@@Hystericall It was reported from ships that overtook (passed) the i Peng 3
@oskich
@oskich Ай бұрын
Totally possible that it happened during the night, especially if there was bad weather and waves slamming into the ship's bow.
@brianrenenielsen923
@brianrenenielsen923 12 сағат бұрын
When she skiftet anchorages prior to departure the could have been testing the anchor dragging behavior / technic.
@timwildauer5063
@timwildauer5063 Ай бұрын
Whatever they used to cut the cables, would they have dropped that in the water somewhere? Was constantly thinking about that watching through the first time. Now with the new section, might that spot be where they dropped it off? But I don't think you would have to stop the whole ship to drop it off...
@Tomcroese
@Tomcroese Ай бұрын
Yes, this is good to see. Thank you
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat Ай бұрын
The details of the ship’s track are as damning as it gets. 🤔
@simon9070
@simon9070 Ай бұрын
thank you Sal
@1990sRailfan
@1990sRailfan Ай бұрын
"You broke my cables"... Yi Peng 3 replies..."You scratched my anchor" (in Dangerfield voice).
@Hystericall
@Hystericall Ай бұрын
Y Peng: what cables? if you're making an accusation I want my lawyer and the chinese consulate.
@user-mv6he6gl8m
@user-mv6he6gl8m 3 күн бұрын
So the latest is that the request of Swedish prosecutor to lead a investigation on the ship has been denied. Swedish police was invited to observe Chinese "investigations". Swedish fm is "disappointed". The ship is now on route to Port Said...
@element7795
@element7795 Ай бұрын
Very informative.
@speedycpu
@speedycpu 29 күн бұрын
Wonder if they stopped to dump cutting equipment. It would be nice to map that area to see if there is anything left on the bottom there.
@Daveyboy1066
@Daveyboy1066 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed analysis however their was one major bit of information you missed out, the fact that though the ship is Chinese it's 'skipper was Russian.
@Agnemons
@Agnemons Ай бұрын
Sal didn't miss it. He clearly mentions the Russian Skipper at the start.
@Daveyboy1066
@Daveyboy1066 Ай бұрын
@@Agnemons Re listened to the first 5 minutes and did not hear him say who the skipper was or his nationality only that the ship had traveled from Russia. Can you tell me where on the time stamp he states this then please?
@morthomer5804
@morthomer5804 Ай бұрын
Maybe the initial movement between berth was to connect the trailing vessel utilized to snag the cables? Possibly a remote sub?
@leonb2637
@leonb2637 Ай бұрын
This is as suspicious as can be. Too many coincidences to not be a deliberate act to damage these cable. It needs to be thoroughly investigated by NATO members using undersea search vessels and if necessary have military escorts for any future use of ships from China, taking cargo from Russia,
@OzzyBloke
@OzzyBloke Ай бұрын
Lol good luck with that
@Tiger313NL
@Tiger313NL Ай бұрын
Better yet: apparently the ship's master is a Russian national.
@JohnSmith-pl2bk
@JohnSmith-pl2bk Ай бұрын
@@Tiger313NL I wonder if the whole crew also were Russian... Could I just borrow your boat for a short while...I will provide my own crew? Wouldn't want the Chinese accused of anything would we, mate....?
@lizardhunt96
@lizardhunt96 Ай бұрын
Perhaps while NATO is down there snooping around they can do a proper investigation of the Nordstream sabotage, but wait, they might find the fingerprints of the US all over it.
@whollybraille7043
@whollybraille7043 Ай бұрын
Military plane traffic shows frequent drone surveillance at the border of Poland and Kaliningrad. A lot of Russia's navy departs from Kgrad. Often see Poseidon aircraft in that area too. Watching for anything that gives off rads or coms.
@ihdieselman
@ihdieselman Ай бұрын
The stop for over an hour is very suspicious. I would say it is quite plausible that they either retrieved something or offloaded something incriminating onto another vessel. We need some satellite imagery.
@JH-lo9ut
@JH-lo9ut 29 күн бұрын
If they had indeed dropped and dragged the anchor by mistake, wouldn't it be normal to stop for an hour to hoist and secure the anchor? I don't know how long that procedure takes on a vessel of this size, but if they had to resolve some mechanical issues first, an hour seems plausible... My gut feeling says there is something shady about this incident but I just feel like we shouldn't jump to conclusions.
@jamessmithers4456
@jamessmithers4456 27 күн бұрын
Tk you v much. Brilliant
@kentslocum
@kentslocum Ай бұрын
So you'd say that Denmark isn't going to "LEGO" of that vessel? 😂
@TimRobertsen
@TimRobertsen Ай бұрын
Lego, in danish, means "play good", so this might be some rough and tumble play here :p
@RickardNilsson83
@RickardNilsson83 Ай бұрын
This comment deserves more appreciation
@stringlarson1247
@stringlarson1247 Ай бұрын
@@TimRobertsen Play hard.
@stringlarson1247
@stringlarson1247 Ай бұрын
Nice. Too bad the ship is called "Eggo". :)
@kentslocum
@kentslocum Ай бұрын
@@TimRobertsen According to The LEGO Group's official website, "The Name 'LEGO' is an abbreviation of the two Danish words 'leg godt', meaning 'play well'." I've never heard it translated as "play good".
@uckyoutube
@uckyoutube 16 күн бұрын
Any under ocean cables are laid down on the bottom of the ocean. They can not be snapped or cut off by ships.
@DavidWilliams-DSW558
@DavidWilliams-DSW558 Ай бұрын
The German defense minister is called Boris Pistorius (pronounciation: "Pissed or I us"), not Boris "Pissed Ross".
@NRZ-3Pi10
@NRZ-3Pi10 Ай бұрын
😂Thanks so much for 2 times emphasizing on the P-word in your comment 😂! But true, it comes closest (`st´, please!) to the German spelling. However, the pronunciation of “I” is like second one in e.g. hilarious. Btw, for our friends in the US and other NATO partners: no reason to be P’d-off Boris Pistorius since he is pushing for budget increase and strengthening Germany’s forces and enjoys good reputation; i.e. quite different to the “Bundes-Scholz” (recommendation: don’t use AI for translation to German - it may turn “chancellor” to what I wrote here 😉. Ah, btw, "U" in "Bundes" is pronounced like bully, not bunker 😅). Matter of fact, if BP would apply for chancellor for upcoming elections, he would get the votes from lot of people, leaving OS in black despair finally.
@RubenKelevra
@RubenKelevra Ай бұрын
12:40 notice how the ship turned before encountering the cable? Yeah, I wonder why. So the fact that they dropped the "anchor" caused enough drag to turn the whole ship it's impossible that the crew didn't notice that, as the helm would suddenly move to one side to compensate the course. So either extreme amounts of incompetence, or malicious activity.
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