I decided to give away the secret formula to carry

[@shazec]

Lmao, love the new to the game picture :D Great vid as always, thanks BSJ. Honestly for me these kinds of videos are the best content because it teaches us how to THINK about Dota by ourselves. We can always go demo/tutorial and practice last hits, pulling creeps, creep aggro and stuff. And while these are important things to do well, once you've mastered the basics/fundamentals to a certain level, it's the way you think about the game that matters the most.

[@KidTrigger]

No herald your wrong I’m 11k immortal your 1k herald jealous?

[@DanielCodyBloedow]

I love this. I already knew a lot of it from watching your stream and putting it together from your other videos, but I think I lost the nuances you covered here and having it all put together in such a concise, detailed manner was really helpful. #1 Dota 2 educator bar none.

[@armorose]

I absolutely loved the insights from this video. Playing dota for 13 years by just going GANK! GANK! GANK! I never moved up in MMR. I started watching BSJ and first learnt the importance of farming. But since I had never really concentrated on CS before, I went from Guardian 5 to Herald 2 just cause I had to focus so much on getting last hits that I was unable to keep a check on the mini-map. [Blamed BSJ for the downfall.] After a month of practicing CS and farming patterns, it sort of became a part of my "muscle memory". So in 2 weeks I climbed up from Herald 2 to Crusader 1 just by always out-farming the enemy carrys. [All cause of BSJ] I play in SEA region (i.e. 2 out of 5 games my team will have a hard support sniper! Well... so will the enemy team :P) Most essential learnings from BSJ that worked for me in this bracket: Herald - Crusader 1. Pick heroes that scale well. 9 out of 10 games will go beyond 50 minutes in this bracket. Heroes like Shaman, Lion, Riki, Weaver wont be able to do much on their own once you cross the 40min mark. 2. Don't lose farm to get a successful gank where your win probability is less than 70%. (Early game) 3. Don't rage on your team for being stupid. It only deteriorates them. (Still working on this. This ones really hard :P) 4. Don't follow your team into obvious blunders. [This has some exceptions I think. Because if you follow BSJ, you would probably have out-farmed the enemy core by at least 3k. That would mean in a team fight you can probably wipe more people of the enemy team by kitting: just like he did with Sven in this video, if you stay back your team could just feed their carry and leave you to the almost impossible task of defending Mega 1v5) 5. You should fight/gank when you're losing; but farm when you're winning. [Will implement this now. Hopefully it would take me from Crusader to Archon]

[@brankbrankbrank]

Great vid. Could you make a similar video about target priority in fights or your role as different positions in team fights. When should Pos1 jump supports in team fights? When should they man up against opponent carry? Who should generally initiate and how should others enter or weave in and out of fights? Maybe potential for a series of videos :)

[@MyChiliIceCream]

He does discuss these stuff in his coaching sessions. Altho you'll have to watch multiple videos as there isn't a single video discussing all the topics you mentioned.

[@TheBBoySwing]

I would like this kind of video. If you can make it one with multiple example as this one of the farming item or the one of the bkb.

[@kms1137]

He do have a video about this, you have to search tho

[@Kozichi]

I think killing the save/big ultimate support is always the best answer. If they have no save, quickly delete the core before bkb, then go for the helpless supports

[@jakecowan6441]

@@MyChiliIceCream Thats why he asked for it lmao

[@siedlecek]

Somehow you have developed a new way of covering already covered topics in a fresh way. I like it a lot recently. Keep it going :)

[@crokey5295]

As a newer player that is familiar with other MOBA's I thought this video is brilliant. The thought process behind these item purchases actually helps me read into 'builds' that I would look up on dotabuff for example where I couldn't really understand the logic of it before. A similar video covering other roles would be something I would instantly watch.

[@KidTrigger]

Haha herald noob I’m 11k immortal are you jealous of me I’m amazing

[@EdgarTheOgre]

I would add Boots of Travel to the list. I have found, in several scenarios, with heroes like TB, I've been able to carry the game because I rushed boots of travel that allowed me to kite a stronger early-mid game team but with low mobility and that allowed me to make my spaces to farm. Sometimes games are so hard that you have to go yolo. I saw this in a 10k+ game recently, but I can't remember who it was exactly, it was just a very high mmr game showing in the lobby.

[@rororo707]

underrated. i don't know what rank you are, but keep at it and try to think really critically on how to best use the item and how many applications you can make it work. i guarantee you are probably onto something that could be meta defining eventually. I think bots 2 is also worth considering, because of the lowered cooldown and lowered channel time. Here is my thought process: you have your initial idea, of a hero who can accelerate very fast with bots. now, for 2k gold, in some games, you can become a global haunt extremely early, maybe with an inbetween item after bots 1. Something like say, luna, brown boots -> mom -> bots -> bkb/manta -> bots 2, fight with level 2 eclipse. some food for thought :D

[@mariela9210]

haha, its wild to see a 1yr ago grubby was 'new' and now hes immortal. lol

[@N3onDr1v3]

So you wanna be a carry gotta get that bling Can you crit like a southbound freight train Tell me just one thing Can you shift queue in a word like a wyverns wing If you need to Can you juke, can you weave Can you illu fake and deceive when you need to Well you might as well quit Cause you cant last hit So you wanna be a carry Do you gl next I can tell if you've got it in you Cause i out cs the best When you tryhard and you sweat And you bet that you train in timbersaw Then you near lose your mind When you find that youre not playing core Well you might as well quit Got bkb fiends gripped Put him in the mk ring, joe Look at what you found This game is fun joe Stomping noobs abound We'll show him the ropes And destroy his hopes Hear the siren sing, joe Give the noob a chance He got poison stinged, joe Veno's got d lance You know he gonna quit, Cause his team just dipped So you wana be a carry Wanna get that dub We see a midas in your queue Dont be a top scrub If you listen and you learn Theres mmr you can earn, and defend it When you keep buying crown And youre wraith king and a clown A contender But you might as well quit Cause you're gonna lose it He took my arcane ring, joe Going to report He's got too high a ping, joe His farm is falling short Getting flamed holding shift He'll dc real swift Using drows bowstring, joe Cant kill a siege cart Cant do anything, joe And he bought a heart If we don't tell him he will never know He cant carry his internet's too slow

[@wyvern2318]

epic bro enjoyed reading that

[@khqlifq]

i wanna kms reading that

[@N3onDr1v3]

@@khqlifq reported for intentional feeding

[@bijaliaailajib7953]

Finally something worth taking in with tons of in game examples and in-depth explainations with reasons for doing so

[@joaomarques8534]

''HEY RAZOR, THIS IS MY AREA TO FARM NOW'' Was a very good synthesis explanation. Thanks for the imortal Technique (literrally)

[@trovestove6886]

Really good and what I needed as a noob thanks for highlighting items spikes at different stages of the game and the thought process behind them

[@Dsdler]

Thank you very much for this video and the other youve recently posted. Love the chill approach and all the knowledge you present in a relaxed and logical way that is applicable to a wide range of players with different skill levels.

[@violentchimp7657]

By far one of your best how to play dota 2 videos, this is something I think I struggle with the most is items and I felt could have won me more games if I just knew how to use and buy them outside of the guide I follow religiously

[@ejejo]

Very clear and effective, understand what questions you have to ask yourself and what to think, thanks BSJ

[@Touk1-u7i]

Bsj explain 20 mins straight why he didn't buy bkb on tb to his teammates, His teammates: tb noob no bkb gg go end

[@coin777]

19:45 In my bracket, that razor is in my team, and will not let me farm there :)

[@comradeicez2863]

This is perfect!! As a pos 1 player in my guardian bracket!

[@anh-tainguyen9840]

thanks BSJ for the indept analysis on carry itemization! Great content as usual :)

[@CptVein]

I have 9000+ hours in Dota 2 The first Dota I played, max lvl was 10 and you couldn't combine items This video is still super useful Thank you

[@Jakegaming03]

I just started playing dota 2 weeks ago and found this video super helpful. Would like a similar one for offlane and Maybe other ingame senarios like team fighting and target priority. Love the vids keep it up

[@Qminoo]

BSJ, my man, I'd like to thank you for this incredibly insightful video (as well as others) that completely change the way I think about the game.

[@milad-kh892]

if my school teachers could teach in the level that u do dotas i'd be a freaking genius right now

[@33shin33]

THAT GRUBBY SMILE MAN, THAT's A POTENTIAL Ti WINNER RIGHT THERE HA!

[@mythik4840]

Thanks BSJ! I have a question about Armlet carries (Naix, WK, CK) - it seems like these heroes want to build Armlet as their first item most of the time; would you say that this is their farm accelerator, and their next item should be a survivability item? Or would you say that Armlet is more like when Ursa/Riki go Diffusal, and that it's a more aggressive option? Would you build Armlet on Naix if you also plan to go, say, Maelstrom?

[@Lupp0]

Like the new content route you're taking bud. And i wish you goodluck keeping up the tempo, it's gotta be brutal for you :) Hope it makes your channel grow though, it should!

[@washburntelecaster]

grubbys picture is tottally clear for me. lol. So happy to see him playing dota.

[@blitzfire723]

BSJ: "... the more accurately you can develop this image of how exactly they're gonna kill you is really important..." Me (every time I step outside my home): I agree.

[@Teinve]

Can we get an itemization guide like this for other roles? This is amazing and I want to see more

[@alejandroecheverriafernand2064]

bsj you're really helping the dota 2 comunity with yout content. can you make a video about choosing the perfect hero from your hero pool for the match?

[@alwaysradical1613]

Yeah I’m in the same spot. I try to follow all the bsj advice, but I think I’m at the level where my hero choice is the most limiting part of my game.

[@Omar-rt1hy]

I don't think he would make such a video, but if he does, it would be 4 hours long xD Though in order to know which hero to pick, you have to know all the 123 heroes, their spells, strengths, weaknesses, and their timings. Such knowledge is obtained by playing alot, and I mean alot, of dota 2 games.

[@wiserskipper]

My games went from 4/10 to 10/10 with this guide. The knowledge that you should buy items in the 1. farm 2.survival 3.kill steps was the biggest help. And on support I go 1.survival 2.survival 3.survival my rank has been flying up

[@chickenwarrior3067]

10:30 what should you do if your team is losing map control and they have a legion commander? You won’t have time to bkb if she blink deuls you and even if she does does you will die. Should you buy it anyways and just not farm and look for a fight?

[@crowfighter1167]

you could consider Linken's Sphere so the duel doesnt go through

[@jasonevans2178]

Great content, loving the new approach! Keep it up BSJ

[@justinpfrunder5951]

Really great video. Teaching more than just item builds but teaching the correct overall approach to dota and the founding concepts that should determine your items. Gold mate

[@KevinCarlino]

Love these new item analysis type videos, keep them coming.

[@jamiecoleman773]

Great Video, I love the use of items and reasoning part of the video

[@wisemanalwayslucky]

The quality of content and production on this video is incredible.

[@armiddle29]

it's easy to get confused with your item choice on a carry, thank you for these guidelines BSJ

[@Fas7Blas7]

"Time and time, again." Rings a bell doesn't it? 😂

[@suspecthalo]

Wish I had seen this earlier tbh. Just finished a game as Terrorblade, and went manta first thinking I'd be fine. However, I ended up soaking the CC instead because I was greedy with manta -> skadi instead of stronger defensive items. I was really far ahead in terms of gold too, so it hurt a bit more too. RIP the Grubby picture

[@demmassalim6934]

I think most decent carry players know all these，but most of us probably do it unconsciously. Voicing it out consciously is very important for the newer players so they can practice these ideas.

[@LuckyBamboo2]

Grubby, lol

[@browsergameshub]

Hahaha thumbs up for the "new to the game" picture 😂😂 Great content, thank you for making these guides!

[@user-cw9lf3gl6x]

Note to self: 1. When in trouble, rush BKB 2. If you're considering other items in that situation, don't. 3. If your hero doesn't traditionally build BKB, buy it anyways.

[@Kaerusss]

Hey late to the party but this was a really concise breakdown, fleshed out all your thoughts on it well and I really enjoyed watching it for that. I felt like I was slowly coming to terms with a few of these concepts, but I'm pretty low tier, this really helped consolidate my understanding of some of the early game decision making/itemization. Throwing you a sub, can already see you have a bunch more vids I'm keen to learn from!

[@soullighter]

Thank you for opening my mind after 14 years of DotA

[@cloycloy2589]

very comprehensive guide. thank you for sharing this

[@Itzak15]

Always play full glass canon. Either you win hard or feed hard

[@bondedomao]

Oh gosh I play for 10 years and I can't think like that easily. I really have to train this! A lot of this also applies for any other pos in general, amazing content!

[@vincentepres7227]

BSJ just wanna know how about in regards to irregular carry like BH for example. Whats the progression gonna be like?. Coz you build vanguard/hood so in my logic the survivability comes first and then you go aghs. And then aghs is gonna be like the farming item. And then you go damage??? Just want to clarify coz I cant seem to win while using BH. Alch/pudge/BB is no problem for me

[@legendarynoob4689]

A lot of stuff that is not said and should be but i do feel like im doing a lot of these things when i itemize and it does make sense

[@ijc-90]

"We already covered why you need bkb on sven" (why the fuck was that??) "Because it helps me farm" (ooohh right, farm)

[@romanberdichevskii5141]

Can you please make a video where you talk more about what items you would buy in different line ups? I found that this kind of educational content was the most useful for me.

[@sagittarius5466]

17:35 lmao? good one mr editor

[@jasonkoh8459]

You are perfectly a great teacher , ur explanation & the way u present are make viewer comfortable also easy to understand a pro player point of view. wonderful video

[@HamyHaxxor]

Good shit brother, this is easy to digest and translate to carries on my team that I might be supporting as well.

[@prince_warhero]

Nice vid..pls do similar item progression video for all roles especially supports

[@jinorelova]

Man wish i could send this to some of my pub carries. Specially that one game I had carry LC who bought first item dagger and absolutely never participated in early fights. What a drag.

[@gavinchung8177]

Bsj bro, your vids are so good man, can learn so much, keep up the goods!

[@SK3564]

Great video!! It really helps make item decision-making easier as a carry 👍

[@warlockCommitteeMeeting]

BSJ best dota content creator

[@Kaizokugari777]

Number one limiting factor for farm, is Death. BSJ-2022

[@OrdoMallius]

Back in Wc3 days we had a carry build. Make hearth+buriza and crystalis and it's gg.

[@hbmgoutdoors8341]

Hey BSJ, got a question for you regarding farm in low MMR (I’m stuck at 1k and just hitting that point where I realize I know a lot, but nowhere near enough). I tend to run into an issue when I’m playing pos 1 where my farm gets thrown off by teammates not paying attention to where I’m going, only where I’m at right now. Example, I’m Dire Duda farming top lane, clearing the wave as fast as possible and moving back towards mid. I’m killing the two camps nearest to lane, and see that my off or mid laner have come from mid lane and are killing the camps near the shrine. Typically if I see this, I’ll steal the creeps and tell them to kick rocks if they complain, unless I see they’re close to a big team fight item and have reason to do so. The problem comes when I get to those creeps, and there’s nothing there for 20+ seconds, and I’m missing out on a ton of CS. I guess the main question here is this: How do I deal with teammates taking farm from me?

[@heemro4356]

stop blaming your teammates when you're 1k

[@MerajZargar]

Ty bsj great content ,pls make a video about how to pick good carry for a game

[@Blazer112able]

Would love to see a guide on Faceless Void and how to itemize for him.

[@ghardy2922]

He made one already. That was like a year ago tho

[@redypo]

I hope you make a guide for offlane and supoprt after this. These are super informative!

[@danielchristopher880]

What is the progression for Offlane? Is it cheaper items but same progression, or different order?

[@alwaysradical1613]

It’s just the best content. Hands down. Thanks bsj. You da realist

[@sunrise600]

straight up learned so fucking much in this video it's blowing my mind

[@sandypella]

Thank you bro, you make dota a better game and community!

[@theacme3]

7:21 Yeah, when im lvl 19 i also allways itemize to kill the lvl 9 winranger reliably xDDD

[@exogaming9013]

Thank you BSJ , now I understand what should I do in my game

[@Merchant_1]

Can any1 shine some light on to how this framework can be incorperated in to fighting carries, ie: armelt deso lifestealer, diffusal blink ursa, etc? I'm guessing this frameworm basically stops applying once you consider yourself more as a semi carry rather than a hard carry

[@shresthaditya9731]

16:38-Develop image of how exactly they will kill you Eg 16:30

[@edwinchandilao4926]

How about battlefury heroes? Im quite a noob but i noticed that pa or antimage use battlefury. If im losong, what farming items are good? Maelstrom?

[@AGENTURMP]

Lol the Grubby reference!

[@tarnished7403]

Really informative for Carry players but I was wandering if you could do a video like this for offlaners. Really, any concept video like this would be great for offlane players.

[@MJ-wi1tc]

This was very helpful, more like this pls

[@aagm.]

Dunno why but I find BSJ a lot more likeable nowadays, seems like he mellowed out or something

[@ohmygusperez]

Great video. Thank you! Can you make one for supports too?

[@syedrehanfida]

I also get crystalys as a farming + fighting item at start to mid game. On heroes like faceless void...

[@mohammadamingudarzi3361]

So much information. Thanks!

[@gianfrancoferrer9320]

Great video! I hope you make a similar video for offlaners. I sometimes struggle itemizing even with heroes that i have been spamming since i started the game.

[@kamaljeetsharma1473]

Loved the video. Please make one SECRET FORMULA TO SUPPORT !!! PLEASE BSJ

[@Roz9l]

Cool video. Loved the Grubby reference) I wonder how this formula applies to PA, who usually buys Deso after BF in a good game. Is this because of the 3rd spell giving the ability to farm somewhat safer?

[@bananaslamjamma]

That is simply reversing the kill item and survivability item which is bkb. A lot of pas nowadays go fury bkb then deso

[@mattisriiskjrbentsen3604]

Very informative, thanks!

[@nltiro3387]

When's battlepass coming out, october start right?

[@bozhidardimitrov1649]

Hey man, Grubby just started learning dota 2... and you are a great coach.... so... yeah ;)

[@dbrobey]

Great video, it ended too soon! I was hanging on all that wisdom.

[@enny7377]

this honestly is one of the best dota learning video

[@jcor77]

Very informative, thank you! 🔥

[@jbowers56]

I know he's a garbage hero at the moment, but am I right in thinking the farm acceleration item on a hero like slark would be something with mana regen like echo or falcon blade? Just to enable his dark pact spam?

[@ezranguyen7190]

Just few ask 1:Y dont u disassemble dragon lance into bkb and yasha after early game when u dont need it anymore even thought hurricane is extremely good against rz and sky 2:Does BKB give more survivability most of the time than hurricane ?

[@Steror]

1. He didn't need bkb this game, pike was enough. It's a lower cooldown item that provides enough survivability and damage - all enemy stuns can be dodged with pike and it lets him attack from further effectively granting more damage. 2. Most of the time yes, but against a hero like razor pike can provide more survivability as it will prevent him from running you down with +120 damage.

[@Masoneuler]

Lost it at the new to the game picture. Amazing

[@1453Archangel]

Best Dota item guide I've ever watched. Thanks Mr. Banana!

[@qwe-m3x]

thank you Brian you are the best dota 2 educational content maker out there

[@juuuuuuls10]

My bro great video! What do you feel about a carry weaver good early game building deso to shard to linkens/bkb? I’m archon but i feel like i should be a legend and also I play like 3 games a week 😅😅

[@christiaanroos4479]

Great stuff! Keep it up!

[@tylersheppard9526]

Really helpful video bsj, thanks