Banfield: Women delivered by doctor accused of selling more than 200 newborns speak out

Banfield: Women delivered by doctor accused of selling more than 200 newborns speak out
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[@catherinestokes198]

I was raised poor , and I wouldn't have it any other way, my mom was the best mom money or not!

[@lifeonwheels5756]

Thank you for saying that, it’s just me and my daughter , I hope she grows up to feel the same way..such a wonderful daughter you are.

[@patti9339]

I always say all kids need is to feel loved! I’m one of 10 kids. Raised poor, but boy did we have a wonderful mother.

[@luckycatnip3667]

I don't share your experience.

[@deblord4220]

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[@deblord4220]

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[@dtee460]

It was not a blessing that you were stolen. It was a crime.

[@yarnpower]

It can be both. She loves her adoptive parents.

[@Superdudehatesmilk]

I agree. I think that's just how some people make sense of what happened to them.

[@sheilasunshine9173]

Blessed is a feeling- so it seems here that you are telling the victims how they SHOULD see it. In the future perhaps you could allow victims to have whatever feelings they do without downgrading them

[@thearodriguez8268]

@@sheilasunshine9173 Indeed but that is not her point the man is a criminal, fact.

[@sheilasunshine9173]

@@thearodriguez8268 several victims feel it was a blessing- also a fact and in my mind a more important fact since the criminal is dead and the victims are alive… the people in this video including his granddaughter agree to all these facts.

[@coffeehi]

Those poor women being told that after they carried their child the full term, and still 'lost' their baby. That is alot of heartbreak to have caused for a buck 😔

[@carolynhoechst3201]

THAT was the crime! 💔

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[@RandomChristianMusings]

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[@winterbirds8022]

@@gameon2553 Did you fall asleep? Lol

[@gameon2553]

@@winterbirds8022 Oops I think so. I usually have a podcast or YT going to help me drift off. I've been listening to a lot of true crime stuff lately. Particularly Summer Wells. This one must have been on the automatic playlist, based on what I have been watching. I'd never pick a video as horrid as this.

[@marilynnschroeder4436]

Wow, those poor mothers who were told their babies had died.

[@kellymarietarotfamilypets9598]

Yeh and they thought they were going to heaven to see there baby’s when they were dying! It’s disgusting. Poor women!

[@paulinawaas9204]

My question is: who said that? That the mothers were told babies died? A mother herself? I am assuming and if it was a mother who said it... then it was true that he was not a good man at all. But if he talked to the young mother's to give thrir babies to adoption. Yes he save a life and then he was a good man.

[@marilynnschroeder4436]

@@paulinawaas9204 Did you watch the entire video? Because it was brought up in there that, for some of the young mothers, he told them their baby had died. Presumably those who didn’t agree to adopting their babies out.

[@Isayah_613]

Why didn't the mothers ask to see their babies after they were told about their deaths? What about funerals?

[@paulinawaas9204]

@@marilynnschroeder4436 I watched it while doing other chores, thank you. Now I can understand that he played them all but some couldn't care for their babies and were advice to give them to be adopted instead of opt to abort them. One question remains in the case of the mothers who wanted their baby and he told they died. How come they did not want to see their baby? AND in this case they could see that they were not dead? It seems that we will never know the "truth" in its entirety. One point I see is that those mothers who want abortion (or knew that he could find a family to take them) at least their babies got a change to be alive. However if abortion then was what Biden/Harris' administration is trying to make a reality these same babies wouldn't be taken to a back door and a chance in life.... instead they would be taken from their mothers up to 9 months and be killed! Sad world we live in...

[@dianacarter8204]

What an incredible determined, steadfast and intelligent woman. God bless her for her relentless quest for truth. Amazing!

[@cheechalker8430]

Who else “looked away?” The people buying the babies

[@LilMissAliKat]

I wondered this too: how much did these families that were accepting these babies know? Where they being told the birth mothers were willingly giving the babies up? Or did they know (or at least have suspicions) that the babies were being stolen. Especially the women who felt they needed to fake their labors and births and then allow their husbands and family to believe the babies were their own. Its hard to understand what was going through any of their minds. 😣💔

[@frankiedominguez1872]

I imagine the birth mothers either willingly or unwillingly gave their babies away. I think it was both situations. Some birth mothers maybe didn't want to have the child and the doctor then facilitated the adoption telling the adoptive parents that the mother willingly gave it up. I think the other situation also happened. Scared birth mothers would come in for secret abortions and then the doctor would tell them the baby died and took advantage of their birth mothers' vulnerable position. Then the doctor would most likely tell the adoptive parents that the birth mother wanted to give the baby away.

[@irishhi8333]

@@frankiedominguez1872 But, the doctor did do abortions.

[@bonnemoms5413]

@@irishhi8333 he tried to talk them into giving the babies up for adoption instead. Many of them changed their minds through the pregnancy or at the birth then he did the oh your baby died crap

[@tinacatharinaeden2711]

Exactly! They must have known not all the babies were freely given up.

[@killpretty13]

I feel so sad for the moms that were told their baby died. I've lost a baby at birth and that's just not something any woman ever wants to go through.

[@bricoley]

I totally agree! I had a stillborn at 36w5d. So I couldn't imagine why someone would cause a family unnecessary pain.. And then finding out that your baby didn't actually die decades later? I don't know, did thru not have questions about the babies remains or any of that?

[@OffTheWagons]

My brother dying destroyed my family, could not imagine. Still think about him all the time

[@OffTheWagons]

over 200 babies

[@OffTheWagons]

@Best Movies was just thinking this

[@killpretty13]

@@bricoley I think back then it was easy to just "dispose" of a child's remains without the mom ever seeing the baby. Men weren't allowed in the rooms when births were happening during those days either, so there would be no witness to it. My son was born at 34 weeks. It was so hard. Especially because Immediately I had to go into the funeral process so his little body could leave the hospital. I learned at that time, years and years ago the hospital would just keep the remains of miscarriages and stillborns and cremate or bury them together in mass. It had changed were after 21 weeks if a child passes after birth or before , you have to contact a funeral home to lay your child to rest. So this doctor used the naivety of the times to commit such a heinous crime as to tell a mother her child died.

[@cheechalker8430]

“Adoptive mother?” More like “consumer mother”

[@dawnsites4232]

Yes, the adoptive parents knew it was not a legal adoption. You dont just pick up a baby at the back door.

[@honeybunch5765]

Thieving mothers, I am sure people knew what he was doing.

[@maggiebridget126]

The granddaughter is in deep denial about her heritage and her adoptive grandfather.

[@Beautyjoy98]

Yep

[@saritagomez4321]

Yes..

[@quashiesuzanne]

Deep down low

[@dannytonnessen6896]

There’s a reason doctors are top 5 on the list of jobs with the most psychopaths. This grandfather AND the granddaughter PROVE IT. I’ve never met a doctor that DOESN’T ENJOY CAUSING PAIN.

[@mkuti-childress3625]

At least she was willing to listen to it without calling everyone liars. It must be really hard to find out someone you loved turned out to do horrible things. I’ve seen people in this situation refuse to even consider that their loved one did a horrible act despite the evidence-for many years. What’s really scary to me is that I’ll bet there were a lot of doctors around the country doing the exact same things that haven’t even been discovered, yet. Thank goodness for DNA testing now.

[@patriciajones474]

In junior high school my best friends mother went to the hospital in Fort Worth Texas had the baby and someone stole the baby. That was over 52 years ago. That little girl is still missing. Her mother actually held the baby the day she was born. My friend's mom grieved over that until she died. The hospital was like too bad so sad. This was during segregation . We were all poor and black! It was rumored that that hospital provided black market babies for sale!

[@Kathrynlove]

That is so terrible 😞

[@kimqueen324]

i would look into that

[@RandomChristianMusings]

I'm SO sorry, sweetie. God bless you and your precious family. Peace

[@camimons470]

Maybe a DNA test from your friend’s family would show where the child is now. One of them gives you everyone’s identity with your DNA, but only for people who have had their DNA tested.

[@glendacook4888]

That is terrible! I am So 😞 Sorry! 💔💔

[@bridgetwilliams5231]

Ann's mom said I didn't see a lot and wasn't aware about them being adopted but than she contradicted herself by saying it was usually single women that would come in and willingly gave their children away for adoption..I call bullshit.

[@Karaunicorn]

Yeah, I didn't believe her story told to her by her Mom who probably didn't want anyone to know she was complicit in what Dr. Hicks was doing the whole time she worked for him!

[@vanityparadise940]

Lies through her teeth, you can see through her eyes.

[@ghostwalker5644]

And everything that she'd state she immediately followed up with "you know"... that's a dead giveaway for a liar! I don't believe a word she said. Period

[@carmenghersi1070]

She claimed her mom was a receptionist; Doctors office don’t have receptionist 24/7; maybe the woman didn’t see everything that when on. I am not judging or defending his actions. However, I was a single mom in the early 70’s and I was treated horrible by the nurse. Was he a blessing I think he should have given the mom an option.

[@ccampbell7214]

There could be both..

[@orangemarigold4594]

If the grandfather was about helping people he wouldn't have received $$ for blackmarketing!!!

[@The_Tiffster]

Exactly!

[@commonsense5506]

Plus his first start in Tennessee was selling drugs. He just moved on to a less visible product. He was in it for the money.

[@mkuti-childress3625]

He probably justified it by giving some of it to the clinic. It is _amazing_ how well people can rationalize even the most horrible acts.

[@melimel9265]

But it wouldn't be helping someone if you were also hurting someone at the same time

[@heatherdowhaluk1369]

If he was actually helping he wouldn’t have made a profit and lied to the mothers.

[@remove574]

That’s the part of the information I would like to see. How much profit he made from it and did others profit. That could open so many more questions

[@xeno4746]

@@remove574 If he sold them for $800 to $1,000 (Ashley's words), then I don't think he made any money (he had to run the clinic, pay staff, etc.). But if he did indeed decide for others and even told mothers that their child was dead is criminal.

[@MrsJenSimpson]

@@xeno4746 $1,000 in 1964 is approximately equivalent to $30,000-$40,000 today. I'm sure he most certainly made profit.

[@MommaDramaForLife]

We know this is still going on but at a larger level.

[@ccampbell7214]

Yep and even more nefarious outcomes

[@prest4tym577]

Read my story posted at the top. I have NO DOUBTS this continues thru my hometowns DCF & Headstart program where only small children in the system who passed intelligence tests and we're considered beautiful started being taken from the late 1980's up until my friend Ken Presyprerski broke the story of his granddaughter being gone from Head Start when he went to pick her up! Never to be given back again! Beautiful blonde baby! Smart as a whip! Because she had a bruise on her forehead. Though he opened a can of worms that blew up the town, he had a horrific car accident struck by a garbage truck, and is now ...crippled for the most part. Filled with metal. No grandchild. & the complaints continue.

[@melissahannah587]

Many mothers were heart broken over their dead babies . If I was a mother I would love to find my child .

[@victirynom]

I am speechless....

[@brandysnaps9221]

Mothers we're also forced to give up babies due to being unwed. My mate had hers taken before she even got to see her baby

[@honeybunch5765]

True , these stories are worldwide, especially in Christian and Asian communities. It's horrifying to think the motivation of giving away a baby or even killing a baby is being unwed.

[@glendacook4888]

Can't believe someone would pull up to the back door & take a baby! 😳😔😫 That is bizarre! Crazy!! The poor birth Mother's. Never knew their babies were really alive! 😩😵 so wrong! So sick! How can people live such lies & deception!!

[@dedunc59]

I was a black market baby out of Arizona. My biological mother was 13 when she got pregnant and barely 14 when I was born. It was not her choice to give me away but her parents. The rest of the family didn’t know I existed until I found my biological mother when I was 28. My adopted mother and father lived in California. They found out about the unwed mother home from one of their friends who had just adopted a baby. When I was can years old my adopted mother and I were talking about my adoption. I had two other brothers that had been adopted at that time. We were all told from the time I can remember that we were adopted. My adopted mom told me at that time that If I ever had questions or wanted to find my biological mother she had paperwork that she could give me that would help me find her. She said that my biological mothers family was very poor and she thought that the reason

[@tonyalittau3944]

@@dedunc59 WOW... I can't imagine. Your adoptive Mother being open with you about how she came to have adopted you honestly surprised me. Maybe she felt bad for how she adopted you but regardless I respect that she was honest with you. I hope you have had a good life and this hasn't affected you in any negative ways.

[@deboragarcia2256]

Porque os que ti ham poder na época real ligados ao tal Dr.Virou um comércio e sabe-se lá se não teve coisa pior .Quem sabe algo não fala ou fiz não saber ,até documentos sumiram ou seja crime atrás de crime .O que me espanta é ainda essa moça começar a investigar e ser meio que ameaçada e nenhum órgão do governo ajudar .Esse homem era um monstro .

[@Tipperary757]

This woman is extraordinary. She filled in pieces of a puzzle for so many other "taken" children.

[@nicolegomez_144]

They did a awesome job putting this together. The host was very professional and good questions

[@mrzstubbz420]

I have a feeling there's some dishonesty surrounding the story with the woman whose mother worked for Hicks. She skirted around the question of what position her mother held in his office and she kept saying she never saw adoptions and then turned right around and said that her mother said all the mom's freely gave up their babies for adoption. Finally I have trouble believing that the mom's left with no emotion after adopting out their new babies, freely or not.

[@DMWBN3]

Started reading your comment just as she came on. Her mother must have known from what I get. Her mum knew the mothers gave the children 'away - given up' with full consent & did it freely. Knows that much & probably knows more. Coming in pregnant & then just strolling out one hour later.

[@thisoldnurse1521]

Yes, the woman who worked for Hick’s, had to have been in on it. There is no way that woman was ignorant or even naive of all that was going on in this “Dr’s” clinic. It isn’t a huge clinic and the town isn’t large either. This “Hicks” guy really preyed on these young single women. I don’t believe for a second that someone actually worked there for years and didn’t know. I don’t. One would have to be stupid not to know.

[@loriscook5231]

All the staff were playing god, they told themselves the babies were going to “good married couples” and away from poverty. By looking the other way they had jobs and an income. The granddaughter and the daughter of the receptionist don’t want to think they were raised on money from sold children. Same sort of shame as having relatives who were slave owners. We cannot change the past, but please at least apologise and say it was wrong.

[@mrzstubbz420]

@@thisoldnurse1521 I think that you're right. It sounded like nonsense and someone wanting to be apart of something so big.

[@kantwinnada]

I agree. I also think that the womans who's mother worked for Hicks told her daughter what had been going on. I felt that she was just lying. My mom didn't know anything ok? My mother said they were never forced, ok? Those statements end with what sounds like a question to me. Or I watch to many body language videos lol

[@MrsznewyawkRN]

Think about it for a second - he looked these EXCITED woman in the eyes throughout their pregnancies - KNOWING they will NEVER get to see this child because he had plans for it 😞 - every woman he did that to I feel horrible for - 9 months of pregnancy and birth are hard enough as it is ; then to get your child ripped away from you 😢

[@Foxie770]

Women didn’t go visit a doctor for 9 months in those days. They went to get an abortion or give birth when the time came. Stop applying today’s standards to the 50’s. Life was different then and so were perspectives and expectations!

[@yarnpower]

@@Foxie770 nope.

[@rosee5841]

But what if they were planning on getting rid of their babies all along and Dr gave these babies a chance to live by giving them to a family who did want a baby.

[@merryfergie]

Yeah, let us not make assumptions.

[@MT-il5tk]

@@Foxie770 Ok, so she dk! It was an honest mistake on her part not that big of a deal but you still didn’t need to be such an ignorant bag about it though! And I’m glad you are such an expert about babies being born pregnancy and ob/gyn in the 50’s but if you want the facts this time frame this particular Doc was selling these babies it was before 50’s if you were actually even paying attention at all!

[@carolynjonas4727]

I was adopted through an adoption agency when I was a newborn. I grew up knowing I was adopted and I have no idea what age I was told. It was just common knowledge. As a teen I did go through some stuff because I felt sold at birth. However, I ended up meeting my bio mom and it made me realize how lucky I was to be adopted by my parents. If I would have been told at an older age or lied to about it and found out later it would be very hard to comprehend as to why my parents did not tell me so I knew growing up. Children have the right to know especially when it comes to illnesses that run in your family. Adopted children are blessed kids for sure.

[@conservativeeducator3696]

LEGALLY adopted children are blessed…. 😢

[@carolynjonas4727]

@@conservativeeducator3696 I agree with that completely.

[@damariperez8429]

🤔🤰🤳🧐

[@tammiebrown8317]

@@conservativeeducator3696 Not all of us.

[@misodinamosa]

My dad was stolen from his mom and abused during his childhood. She was bullied into giving him up for adoption by the courts at the time of her divorce. He was almost two years old & remembered seeing his mother awhile after. They had let her come by to see him. It was tragic, he didn’t know until he was 40. I helped him find his mom. They both were emotionally damaged by the adoption. Certainly not the norm, but it was difficult growing up knowing my dad was in pain and not knowing why. My mom was really helpful in communicating my Dad’s love. He did many things that silently showed his love. There are much worse & brutal lives other children have. I’ve always been grateful to have known my real grandmother. 💜🙏🏻

[@chronic_payne5669]

Sally is in complete denial of the monster her grandfather was and doesn’t care, because she had it good.

[@sandyjackson4194]

I couldn't believe what I was hearing, complete denial is being nice because that was not the words I was thinking.

[@amandagarcia6320]

Until watching this? I always believed that Hitler was the worst human being to ever incarnate onto our planet.....This doctor is a close second. How can he not burn in hell for the pain and suffering that he caused?

[@maggie9312]

Exactly bc she got a good life been the granddaughter of Dr just the title of been someone important from town make her feels lucky and careless about the others poor kids ending in with bad parents She only see her side of the story how wonderful grandpa was mobster evil stolen and asking babies like a piece meat omg

[@QuietStorm710]

Agree. She danced around answering anything confronting directly. She can’t even confirm absolutely that she’s not one of them. She had a cushy life so she’s convinced herself others did and doesn’t want to make a different connection.

[@laurenehamilton453]

How could anyone be ok with finding out that their parents are kidnappers? They are horrible people.

[@pamelaliegh]

Not a lot of adoptions are done willingly by all parties, even today.

[@rebellajm]

Many of these adoptive parents were not kidnappers or theives and whose only fault was desperately wanting to raise an unwanted child. Remember they were lied to as well...

[@deborahhershey3045]

i'm sure they were told that the baby needs 2 parents as the bio mom was single and back then, she couldn't raise a bastard child.

[@kimqueen324]

baby theft isn't a blessing. telling a mother her baby isn't is dead. interesting there is no mention of the mothers well being. there still isn't a safety net for babies who are adopted, there's no follow up.

[@DMWBN3]

Not listened to it all, but what about the fathers, or was it just single women??

[@kimqueen324]

@@DMWBN3 single mothers are the pit of society, basically. funnily his logic of 'gay men have always existed therefore they make good parents doesn't apply to single mothers who also have been around forever (and done a bloody good job) does not apply. funny that. so tired of middle class privileged self appointed experts punching down on mothers. But it does reveal the sociopathy behind the current forced removals and past forced adoption experiments. Miserable man who is contemptuous of women (4 points in his conversation at least) can barely contain his disdain. maybe he should change his life and get a bit happier. .. (imagine being his wife when he turns his head and dryly says one is enough trouble. hardly celebrating love and marriage...)

[@lucidarose613]

There's no safety net for babies in the womb at all though.

[@lucidarose613]

@@DMWBN3 Valid point, it's their baby as well.

[@elizabethann8228]

It’s appalling actually. Shame SHAME on them!!

[@pornstarlivesmatter3319]

WOW! I BET GOD HAD A FEW THINGS TO SAY TO THIS DOCTOR.

[@TWLogik]

Honestly, their parents and the Dr should have been charged for kidnapping. I would be mad at them too. You literally stole me from my mother with no concern for the birth parents. For the ones who were told their child was dead.

[@marycolton5024]

Kidd napping ....this is child trafficking and selling stolen human beings.

[@robinluich6626]

As a parent I would want to see my baby dead or not, so I believe it was an illegal full term abortion Clinic but he delivered babies alive to sell babies to the highest bidder. Mother's didn't report missing dead babies so it seems the mothers thought they had abortions.

[@rrrjjj5572]

The last woman interviewed, whose mother worked at the Hicks clinic, reminds me that these were the times when the good white doctor was on a pedestal, a good man who could do no wrong, someone who was unquestioned, to whom all were meant to be grateful. Seems he certainly took advantage of that.

[@chronic_payne5669]

We’re still very much in those times. White Drs are seen as saviors and are able to get away with many wrong-doings.

[@thewatcher5248]

Ya like police and doctors today

[@DMWBN3]

I always remember seeing the Dr as someone who was held in high regard. Want to see a story about trust gone wrong, then have a look into Harold Shipman. He's from England & has quite a story. 🇬🇧👍🏼

[@AnnaMorris411]

@@DMWBN3 thanks for the reference to Shipman! Never heard of him! Going to watch the documentary

[@karenlamb2434]

Doctors of all colors think they’re God. My husband has been sick (cancer survivor) for 15 years and I’m not a fan of any male doctors. I think women make better doctors more empathetic.

[@tinadiesman5442]

Was there a pipeline to Cincinnati? My husband was an illegal adoption and we have had problems finding his bio family.

[@chrissearer1896]

23 and Me….. I was amazed, it changed my life for the better!

[@painintheknee1209]

The fastest way is through DNA test. It links the DNA like through ancestry.

[@Lissa11638]

She's not speaking literally

[@samsara-summermooncomehome5881]

I can't comprehend what kind of a person could tell a new mom that their newborn, who they had carried, nurtured, got excited for and planned for, for 9 months, had died, and then go and sell that baby!?!?! Unbelievable!😔

[@elizabethann8228]

And then their children, all these years later, feel like it was “ a blessing “ that this happened?!! 🤯 They’re certainly not thinking about the humanity and what their biological MOTHERS had to live through. 😢 Pitiful.

[@malabuha]

How does somebody do that?! Dont they have conscience??

[@YT4Me57]

No.

[@AngiesDoingIt]

No. Same kind of people who want slavery to come back

[@flossyjones8578]

The doctor's Grand child she was adopted legally not sold on the black market and hand out the back door without the mother's permission. How disgusting. These poor women didn't know anything about their babies other being told their babies died. I cannot get over this this is crazy 😧

[@msaijay1153]

That's because her mother refused to take the baby that Dr. Hicks offered to give her. So her mom was a stand up person

[@heatherdowhaluk1369]

If he was helping people why did he lied to the mothers.

[@lbroolz]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any more disgusting and dispicable, it does. How does this evil occur? Corruption. I'm so sick of the corruption in this country. It's really gotten out of control. Sad. God bless these families.

[@luckycatnip3667]

These people probably all believed in god.

[@danimotherofchickens479]

This happened all over the world actually in the 50s and 60s teherbare several well known cases in England and Ireland, Africa ect

[@Sunshine4]

@@danimotherofchickens479 that is why I always side eye people when they say how people weren’t so crazy in the past…not true - we just report more. People haven’t changed.

[@janicescott6569]

I know the US rates the highest in crime but Satan is all over the world. Read about the Catholic Church taking babies and selling them in Italy out of the Catholic hospital and telling the mothers the baby died. Taking a frozen baby body out of the freezer, thawing it out and letting the mother see it then refreezing it for the next bereaved mother to view and that the church would pay for a crypt for the baby. The crypt would have a name but be empty. Parents are being reunited by DNA and their children are older and parents getting very old. The Bible says satan walks about like a roaring lion. And he does! He is everywhere.

[@janvdb9258]

@@luckycatnip3667 Evangelicals love to vote for adultering, lying, fraudster and racist Donald Trump. Fake Christians are the worst

[@craftmom5302]

I don't buy for one minute about that lady's Mom not knowing anything! Never seeing anyone upset when leaving! I call southern BS, back then things like that just weren't discussed ever! People like her don't change either, ignorance is bliss.

[@pinkiestar99]

Abusers don't just groom their victims. They groom the whole community. I'd put money on it, that some of those babies were his

[@marthawoodworth]

A very smart comment. You just added to my understanding of the social aspect of abuse. Thanks.

[@pinkiestar99]

@@marthawoodworth it's why so many people who know the perpetrators don't believe or don't want to believe the victims. And why so many perpetrators get away with it for so long

[@vegginny548]

absolutely

[@byBeauxARTFULIVING]

In 1950s and 60s , mothers were knocked out with anithesia before the birth. My mom said they would go thru labor + then be knocked out minutes before the birth of a baby , usually by foreceps. Dad was kept in a waiting room far down the hall. Mom woke up and is handed her baby. Natural child birth and dad in delivery room were not things until 1970s. In 2012 -2019 my daughter had her husband, the grandparents , the greatgrandparents all in the room for births of her 4 children. The births blessed us with a beautiful bonding experience for us all .

[@relsba]

My 3 deliveries in the early 1960’s were the same. My husband and I both missed out.

[@byBeauxARTFULIVING]

@@relsba Yes. After 3 children and 10 grands, My parents were completely THRILLED to be present in delivery room for births of each of their great grandchildren. That moment of entry to the world is so special .

[@lisamcdonald2877]

@@byBeauxARTFULIVING I support freedom of choice by mothers as to how they have babies. In the 80s, I learned that I wasn't allowed to be asleep, which I wanted. So much for my rights.

[@sarabobara8458]

My nanny told me about a time in the 1960s where she was having her first baby, she was young only 15 and she was scared and didnt have any support. They wanted her to lay on her back, apparrently back then it was pushed that mothers stay in bed, and lay on their back, things we now know actually slow labour. She kept wanting to sit up and to stand up and sway, so they strapped her down. She gave birth at 15 with her arms and legs strapped down to the bed. She had zero criminal record, she wasnt there as a convict etc there is zero reason for them to have needed to do that. Fast forward to 2008 when my daughter is born, and my nanny was just sooo shocked by how things have changed and how womens desires are more respected.

[@katek.4692]

@@lisamcdonald2877 Well, I wouldn't necessarily consider something like that, as far as the medical staff [OBGYN/Midwife] not allowing you to be put under general anesthesia [ ”put to sleep,” even though it is far from legitimate sleep, lol] during delivery, as them “not caring about your rights,” because that depends upon whether you were having a C-section or natural birth. If you were not supposed to have a C-section and there weren't any complications that arose during delivery, then it is standard for mothers to not get put under due to the necessity-factor of mothers needing to be conscious during a natural delivery because they have to be able to push; the only time, which I already mentioned this, that a mother gets “put to sleep,” so to speak, during delivery is when she needs to have a C-section, so unless a C-section is necessary or complications arise “last minute,” to where a C-section ends up the new way of delivery, getting “put to sleep” is not going to be an option for adequate and valid reasons, like the previously mentioned necessity of pushing and the higher risks that mothers face having a C-section done, in itself, which is why the only mothers who go that route, don't have any alternative because a natural birth would not work/not be sufficient for the mother and the baby. I would, and respectfully, just to clarify, for I'm genuinely not trying to be rude, encourage you to not take that experience as “your rights not mattering,” but instead, see it as for what it is essentially, which is just the medical staff making sure that babies and their mothers have the safest delivery possible. That is coming from someone who had not one, not two, but three different epidurals put in because the first anesthesiologist, who was a student being supervised, mind you lol, who did the first two, started to hit something that he most definitely wasn't supposed to hit the first time and the second time he still managed to not get it in right so my entire right side didn't take the medication, which left me feeling everything on that side, not to mention that I couldn't lay on my right side to try and get the medicine to pass to that side of the body because my son’s heart rate would lower when I laid on my right side; needless to say, however, after the first dose of medication that didn't take to my right side due to the epidural being in wrong, a second “lets see if your right side takes this” dose of medicine, and thirdly, and ultimately, a new anesthesiologist coming in, this one not being a student lol, and re-doing my epidural entirely, which included more medication, I was so damn numb by the end of things that by the time my Midwife came in to see how I was doing, while I was laying on my left side just soaking in the moments of feeling comfortable finally, she lifted my leg when I told her, and after she asked if I could feel any pressure towards my butt, “to be honest, I don't feel a damn thing” lol, it turns out that I had no idea that my son was already coming and I didn't have even the slightest awareness, lol. I was so numb, which brings me back to my point about why during natural births the mother's don't get put under, that they had to tell me when to push by looking at the monitor that was recording my contractions because I couldn't feel any even remote instance of my contractions after all of that epidural mess. Ah, childbirth was so “fun,” lol.

[@donnaryland9976]

The good thing you can console yourself with is that the doctor that did this had to stand before God & be held accountable for the lives he destroyed.

[@luckycatnip3667]

Do you believe in Santa Claus also

[@flossyjones8578]

Imagine the mother stink that their babies had died and all the time the babies were given to other women. The women probably don't have a clue that their baby was giving away. As a mother I know I wouldn't want that to happen to me.

[@TheNortibia]

but it is normal for the mother to be given time with her stillborn child, if that happened.. I guess these mothers where not given such time, since the children did not actualy die... I would have demanded to see my stillborn child, and many mothers probably did object, and wanted to see, but was denied, cause they did not have a stillborn baby..

[@user-uq1nm3iv8i]

@@TheNortibia I keep wondering if the baby supposedly died what about the burial? Wouldn't it be the mother's responsibility to bury the child? My full term baby died during birth and they did bring me my baby while he was still warm to hold. I can't imagine just leaving my baby behind and not having a final resting place for him. So what did these mothers think the doctor did with their baby after walking out the door and leaving the baby behind? So many questions here unanswered.

[@TheNortibia]

@@user-uq1nm3iv8i No idea, what if the babies mums was even charged for such hospital "expences" too? :/ the world is especially horrible for the poorest people

[@gloriapena3649]

How dare he play God. I can see a mother requesting he find parents for her child but he was stealing babies. No ifs or buts about it. Do not glorify him.

[@rebellajm]

@@user-uq1nm3iv8i This was not the practice in the 50s or 60s..

[@Foxie770]

You’d think with a history of “losing babies” during delivery, women would stop using him!

[@miameow4833]

We have internet now, word probably didn't get around that fast back in the day.

[@Karaunicorn]

@@miameow4833 right and people blindly trusted doctors back then too!

[@Karaunicorn]

@Best Movies I agree!!!

[@quashiesuzanne]

I just love your tenacity through your pain. And brilliant idea of a collaboration of victims to investigate and solve this crime.

[@laurenehamilton453]

How is it that women would come into the clinic and leave empty handed and the receptionist never saw a baby leave, how the heck does that make sense? If the babies were given up legally then why did they sneak them out the back door still wet?! Her mother lied to her, she knew very well what was going on.

[@B-24Liberator]

I’m thinking the same thing…she knew.

[@stephaniehowe0973]

He was probably telling them, they were from "unwed mothers" shhh Which was looked down on a helluva lot more then. Saving them from "poverty"

[@annab8312]

So the host is actually making the connection that unborn babies are human beings? And not just 'a collection of cells?'

[@jannettb7930]

I know these people have a very emotionally complicated situation to try to cone to terms with, but painting that doctor as some sort of savior is disturbing. He lied, he treated those women he lied to like property. Like cattle. If his intentions were to help, why make money off it? Why lie? Why not set up a system no matter how underground to help with the full agency and knowledge of those women? Just because some situations turned out well it doesn't mean his intentions or actions were good or right. This is so sad

[@yaraserrano9426]

I am with you he was no savior he was making himself money that was it

[@GhislaineMutombo]

RIGHT his a demon.

[@johnquayequao7026]

No doubt that doctor was nasty, cruel and greedy. He got away with it because of lack of ID blood test in those days

[@johnquayequao7026]

@Chino T. Yes, he got away with it because in those days, there was no ID blood test

[@Foxie770]

That’s how things were done in those days. That’s why regulations and laws later came to be. The 50’s and 60’s are not the same world we live in today. Of course I don’t advocate the stealing part, but the family and social pressure against poor, unwed mothers back then made for an untenable situation.

[@heatherdowhaluk1369]

Again if he was so wonderful then why did he sell the babies as opposed to giving them away.

[@rondafun1]

They knocked my mom out, when she woke up they said the baby died and was cremated. Mom mom always wondered.

[@kellymarietarotfamilypets9598]

So you could have a sibling you don’t no about! Alive and well if they lied to your mom

[@rondafun1]

KellyMarie Cole Definitely. It was very odd because nobody saw the baby and it was cremated within 24 hours without anyone’s permission.

[@kellymarietarotfamilypets9598]

@@rondafun1 that’s very suspicious 🤨 they can’t do that! Maybe look into it? Be great if you can get answers! Xxx

[@LilMissAliKat]

How scary and awful for your mom.. I can’t even imagine what must’ve run through her mind. 😥💔 I hope she’s been able to find peace since the ordeal- ❤️

[@inchhighpi9514]

Cremated? OMG that had to be so much turmoil for your mother. Prayers for your family. This has my mind reeling with questions and I now have my own family history to look into.

[@jesssingleton1200]

People act like everyone who adopts is so wonderful but how messed up is it for some of them to be so selfish and care only for their own wants that they'd steal someone else's child and lie to the child like it never happened and completely disregard the pain they've caused to the biological mother/father!

[@rebellajm]

I knew the woman described as the Akron pipeline. She adopted 4 of those children and was assisting my parents in early 60s. It was told by the clinic these were unwed mothers that were relinquishing their babies SO the adoptive parents were not stealing their babies.

[@Beautyjoy98]

I'm sorry Ms. Sally you can wear rose colored glasses all you want. I know what I'm hearing and seeing.

[@AngiesDoingIt]

This is why they closed the Catholic church down the street from my house. I bet it's a lot of babies stories in that church.

[@heatherdowhaluk1369]

They seem to miss the point that the doctor profited from this, not the mothers.

[@deborahstanfield2894]

.my mom didnt find out she was adopted until she was having to file for s.s. and it didn't match up. It took her 17 yrs to find her mother and 7 brothers and sisters..

[@FC-hj9ub]

Parents are very stupid to not tell their children they're adopted

[@Lissa11638]

WOW, heartbreaking

[@thoughtsfromathenasreality]

All the "parents" who bought the babies should have to do jail time!

[@therealz360z7]

What a shame someone can contribute being spared poverty with being loved! Do these people realize they can grow up loved and not all young parents stay in poverty quite a few rise from that. I thank God some evil bastard didn't steal our baby we didn't raise them wealthy basically lower middle class but my children never were deprived of anything. Being born out of wedlock was never something to be ashamed of .

[@mpalmer7800]

With technology most secrets in family are now coming out!!!

[@chronic_payne5669]

If your children were “never deprived of anything” they weren’t raised in poverty. Your first sentence is so confusing, but it seems you’re trying to equate love with curing poverty? Poverty isn’t a moral failing, it isn’t caused by lack of love and lower middle class isn’t poverty.

[@SarahLibogomalove]

Right....Poverty is just a lack of cash!

[@mandacole8703]

If you're smart enough to work with what you're given, and don't mind working hard to get it, you absolutely can live in poverty in the USA without your children suffering. Especially if you have family or a good support system around you. My parents had nothing but I never knew how little we had.❤

[@Belovelyava]

Being born out of wedlock was very shameful in the 50’s. Probably till early 80’s. In the 90’s I did a project where I looked pregnant (15/16 )yrs old. I still got tsk tsk,bad looks, and an occasional comment. Because I was “ young,pregnant, no ring on”

[@JacquelynNhi]

There are so many reasons I didn't let my daughter out of my sight while we were in the hospital, this is one of them. I trusted no one. 🤨

[@jackieblue9536]

Wow this is horrific...

[@rare1walking]

I am griefstricken myself, to see the lost, desolate look on this author, who never got to know her mother, father or family, her name, heritage, etc. Her sense of belonging was based on lies. Babies know it's not Mom. I think their sense of self and feeling lovable suffers and they may blame themselves when older, like kids do at losing a parent to death or divorce. Pre- verbal trauma can be hard to overcome, and without the truth, any could get stuck in an emotional response without validation. An angry person is a hurting person, as anger is a defense for pain. Some nebulous emotional storm can make them feel unworthy of love, because an angry person doesn't feel like a nice person. So she wrote a book about this horrible clinic's doctor and the Hicks babies, but that doesn't make her loss any less or take care of the emptiness of being wronged in such a catastrophic way. I wonder if she feels so detached, like her life is a lie from the beginning, feeling invisible as some country doctor decides when he needs money, and which parents are too poor, single or uneducated to raise their own child. He stole from the grandparents, siblings and extended family, too, and left them with the sting of grief when all along their anticipated loved one was still alive. The Hicks baby author probably will always wonder what her real name is, or would have been. Where her mother's heartbeat went, her voice she heard in the womb, nursing from her own mother while being kissed and adored, learning family traits and history. The huge loss and time never able to be made up, is really hard to bear, less hear about. It seems the Doctor helped take care of unwanted pregnancies and illegitimacy in those times to the point of taking on the role of dispersing babies he thought would be better off somewhere else, of course for a fee. That is playing God. Minus the fee.

[@anikajoy5739]

How does she feel about her adoptive parents that bought her. ? I hope Ashley asks her that.

[@alexcanada9614]

Exactly they knew they were buying somone else's baby they have to be evil

[@BobSmith-ll9ol]

Well it’s not the girls fault.

[@HerMajesty1]

@@BobSmith-ll9ol That's not the question. The question was how they feel about their parents that stole someone else's baby

[@glendacook4888]

I was wondering the same thing!?? How do you feel with the parents who bought you!? So weird!

[@WeThePeeps13]

How hard would it have been to find out if the good doc was still practicing, after the plea deal? He had a whole clinic!!! The entire county's complicit. Disgusting. If doc were ethical he wouldn't have had to lie to new moms about their "dead" babies. And, last lady's ridic. First, her mom supposedly, never saw adoptions going on, then, her own sister (the aunt) gave her baby up at the clinic, then...."all the women that came through there willingly left their babies." Well, which one is it? Everybody's entitled to their own perspective. God Bless, all involved. And, May God Have Mercy on our souls.

[@valu1827]

You have brought up some great points. I think she is lying.

[@K5Kreations]

If Hick’s was doing it to help the mom’s with unwanted babies, why wasn’t he honest? I’m sure there was more than enough unwanted babies to still keep that circus afloat. Why didn’t he share the profits with the moms? Those selfish Hick’s Babies that have no regards for their birth mothers/families and her/their feelings and or trauma suffered; just as long as they had a “good life.” Smh

[@lucidarose613]

At least those babies had a chance at life unlike all the babies he murdered in the womb smh. So many are wondering about the mothers, but what about all those babies that were brutally murdered, no mention of their identity. Unborn babies lives matter.

[@mailvoor698]

Are u blaming the babies?...

[@K5Kreations]

@@mailvoor698 did I say I was?

[@elizabethann8228]

I so agree with you!!

[@stormy7192]

Back in those days this was probably common. Poor, single, had an affair, etc.

[@sharonameskamp6893]

Unbelievably sad for all the mothers and children. Monsters still doing evilness!

[@sydludwig1826]

Though many of the kids are grateful for their adoptive parents, it wasn't Hicks' place to make that decision. If some babies were to be aborted but then actually born, that's the silver lining in this story.

[@reneemoreno8030]

Wtf...how horrible. I hope and pray for peace for those poor mothers.

[@The_Tiffster]

Nobody wanted a burial for their "dead" babies???

[@merpdoe6569]

The doctor told them they couldn’t have one. Made them think the hospital disposed of the bodies.

[@judymurray191]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@margarettaft7362]

Probably told the Mother and father’s if any that they would take care of the burial.

[@vegginny548]

in a small town, they are mostly poor unwed women, how could they afford a burial?

[@1catmac]

You have to wonder what the adoptive parents knew. They created the market

[@melodythompson7755]

Tell me that those who personally knew this doctor didn't know of these crimes? . They should go to jail.

[@bonnieandcrimesagainsther.2754]

We Really need Reporters In Canada just like you. Not afraid to report on real news. Great Job you do

[@dianedavidson7977]

This granddaughter Hicks looks like her grandfather. It's bizzare who knows what went on in that family.

[@kimtaylor7162]

Possibly something like went on in Georgia Tann’s family .

[@tiffanyhoward9935]

Like he might actually be her father rather than her grandfather? Yep, same thought!

[@frankiedominguez1872]

She looks mad crazy

[@frankiedominguez1872]

Yeah she should take a genetic test to really prove that.

[@mustangsally5051]

No...I don't see any ressemblance....

[@angelasmith595]

This is wrong imagine how the mom felt thinking her baby died

[@lindap.p.1337]

I read the book. It is very believable. I can see how easy it could happen. The 50s were a different time. But the nurse knew. I am going to find it and read it again.

[@bettym.3996]

He did it for the money he could get from those who were wealthy enough to buy the babies. He didn't do it for free. And sometimes, "no" IS the truth. But in this case, it was not.

[@mimirose5909]

What a wicked, evil man. I am sure he is feeling the flames of hell for his horrendous behavior. Despicable.

[@jmparsons7331]

Yes very wicked, but sadly no after-life punishment......and if you want to argue God will take his revenge, well how about "God" stepping up in the moment, when all this poor children and mothers are being abused and wronged....IF God wants to prove to me "his" greatness , it sure is doing a poor job...a child dies every 9 mins,on this earth from hunger ....and much worse.

[@mimirose5909]

@@jmparsons7331 I hear you. However, I do believe in heaven and hell and God DID give mankind FREE WILL. So it is MAN that is evil NOT God. Like the saying goes God sent his son Jesus Christ as a poor man because the riches are not here on earth but in heaven. When he comes again he will come as a King. Brother James Keys says this is called the Great Falling Away. God is separating the wheat from the chaf. Man is cruel and evil. GOD will send them where the belong for eternity. Blessings.

[@FM19MONTH]

This likely is still going on out there all over world

[@cottontailexpressllc6521]

This man saves a lot of life. I don’t even know can people blame him. Yeah right!!! The truth like saying “ your baby is died” and everything is good. “Let’s celebrate”!!!!!! Some sick minded people

[@byndass5552]

How much $ did the doctor make, money is a large factor in this story and even the reason it kept going for so long?

[@Kathrynlove]

Why would someone want to deliver a baby in an abandoned building? That doesn't even look like a clean clinic...this is a sick story!! This lady wasn't adopted...her parents stole her!! People are crazy! Earth is a living hell.

[@Kay-fv7cw]

It may have looked better/newer at the time, and she said the closest hospital was two hours away.

[@mrs.doolittle2180]

There was no such thing in those days. I was born in the 60s and there was 1 clinic in our town of 5000.

[@personalcheeses8073]

Well where I live delivering a baby does not cost anything. If you live in a country where it costs an arm and a leg to deliver one, vast swathes of women cannot afford to be choosy

[@lc6636]

@@personalcheeses8073 people do not pay for having babies in the US. This was in the 50s.

[@rebellajm]

@@lc6636 Most pay plenty!!!

[@coleengoodell7523]

We know this is happening right now in many 3rd world countries. In some places babies and young children are being kidnapped and sold regularly. I'm not sure how I would feel if I found out that this situation was the truth of my beginning. It seems from these interviews that it depends on how their lives turned out. But to say that this was a positive thing to do for whatever reason is saying that it's ok to sell children. That wasn't, isn't and never will be ok.

[@AkSonya1010]

I understand how hard it was for me in 1987 at 17 years old to have a child, thank God I made it and I was able to raise my son. I can ONLY imagine how hard it was in the 50s and 60s. The question is he a monster or did he help women is interesting. They both have very valid statements. On one hand he helped some children but if he truly lied to women and told them they died that in insane and unimaginable.

[@JaimeMesChiens]

Ms Blasio is a wonderful interviewee. Her story is compelling, her background makes her quite capable, and she’s so well spoken, and seems quite comfortable on camera. For this, and more, I am going to read her book. It should be great.

[@patricathomas6155]

Did she ever ask her adopted parents how much they paid for her?

[@glendagrant9042]

In late 90s my husband and I lived in Atlanta. We thought of opening a bed and breakfast up toward North Georgia . We were shown a gorgeous big old house which turned out to have belonged to Dr Hicks. That was when I first learned of this story. I liked the house and it was a good deal but we decided not to do the bed and breakfast. I don't know if that history kept the house from selling or not but the realator was upfront about it. It had of course changed hands by then but it had been Dr Hicks' house.

[@karenanson]

Wow! I know one of these babies. Completely tragic. Boggles my mind tho how one man can continue delivering “dead” babies and still maintain an acceptable reputation in the town.

[@ldebrobander]

She should be angry at her fake parents

[@Karaunicorn]

I also think it was wrong of the families who agreed to adopt babies out the back door of a clinic they had to know that was wrong! And some went back and did it twice!

[@Superdudehatesmilk]

Poor Mark. I hope he's found the intimacy and affection that was missing from his life.

[@g.immanuel3151]

$1000 per baby = $200,000 from ONE town that was discovered in Ohio. The town was in a high poverty area -- that kind of money made a big difference for the Dr. and highly possible that his family including the granddaughter benefited. She doesn't give any details about her adoption -- protecting the family???

[@rebellajm]

Akron was not a high poverty town at that time.

[@roseacresfarmily]

This happened everywhere in the 40's and 50's. I just did a video on my channel about Ruby Hightower in Texarkana, TX who did this!

[@aprilpruitt4992]

This is not an adoption!!! It's kidnapping!!! How can any of those children now adults could even look at their "parents" (kidnappers) the same!!

[@calvinleyte8265]

Her Mom didn't know about adoption going on ,but her aunt her mother sister went there to give up baby at birth for adoption .How did she know to go there than but her sister who work there didn't know.Confusing.

[@shereerockdaschel9301]

What a horrible thing to do to mothers having their children to tell them their child died and turn around and sell it to somebody else I can’t even imagine the hurt that those mothers went through.

[@patriciastrang8747]

Wow! The evil in this world is astounding....and the last guest whos mother worked the front desk calling that baby "it" is disgusting and she is a horrible woman for her lack of compassion..her mother is a liar..and she is covering for the embarrassment...sick!!

[@meghanboudreau9096]

In the beginning they’re talking about him doing abortions and I’m like yay! Women’s rights! You help those ladies! Two minutes later....this mans a terrible human being.

[@YT4Me57]

Abortion waa illegal back then. Nobody was championing him for performing them, just that they were at least done safely (as opposed to a back alley abortion with a coat hanger).

[@maggiemae4584]

When you say “yay! Women’s rights” I think about all the girls who never got the chance to have any women’s rights. Not even the chance at life. It’s so sad. I guess to you some women should have more rights than others!

[@ginahall5163]

Abortion is murder. Murder is the taking of innocent life.

[@JohnPaul-vx8iy]

Sad this only comes out after the guilty already lived a good life sound like politics were involved...

[@LovinLife-pv7op]

My mother gave birth to four children. She has always claimed when my brother was born, she was in and out of consciousness but she clearly remembers hearing two babies crying.

[@lifeonwheels5756]

The guy in the red shirt has the best attitude about it..good for him.

[@reneecarr0222]

Omg my mother though she was kidnapped as a baby bc they always told her my grandpa walked in the door with her and didn't know where he got her. I did a DNA test and don't know who any of her side is I don't recognize any of them as family. So something happened. And we also have lived in Ohio my mom was born June 26,1959. Her first birth certificate said she only had 2 twin brothers but when she question her parents they had it changed some how. Now we really don't know.

[@valu1827]

Jill- There is definitely a story in your family.

[@cr-iv1el]

I hope youcan sort it out. Maybe through DNA?

[@msjannd4]

Horrible "reporter" that doesn't listen and talks over her interviewees, making them have to repeat themselves.

[@YT4Me57]

You noticed that too.

[@marthawoodworth]

She's new at having her own show. Give her a minute. But honestly, I am watching this and I don't notice that at all. She's a respected YT reporter on Court TV,, and I find her very respectful.

[@kimqueen324]

well yes adoption malpractice does still happen

[@Hili24pur]

This happened a lot in the 50s I was adopted then , and essentially purchased Thru an attorney. There were a lot of baby rings in the 50s .