The Space Shuttle's Last Flight - Space Documentary

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@gymnast1284
@gymnast1284 3 ай бұрын
I was there to witness the final space shuttle launch Atlantis with my family ❤ 🚀 the most impressive and unforgettable part is how you can see it for several seconds before you actually hear it and then FEEL it. I will never forget it for as long as I live!!! 🌟
@Newspeak.
@Newspeak. 2 жыл бұрын
Saw several shuttle launches when I was a kid but the most memorable moment was when I convinced some friends to come with me to watch a night launch. We ended up watching from coco beach and it lit up the sky like daylight. It was such an a amazing thing to see.
@masskilla469
@masskilla469 Жыл бұрын
I saw a few launches 2 from Cocoa Beach and you could feel the power of those Engines in your chest miles away from the Pad. When my Father took me to my first one I was hooked!! I did not want to go to Space I wanted to be the guy who designed and Build it so I became a Engineer. I now work for a company and we design and build things for The Department of Defense and my Country and I Love My Job. The places I get to go to and the things I have seen help design and Build are Awesome.
@cedricdey
@cedricdey Жыл бұрын
😅😊8
@Freemarkets1236
@Freemarkets1236 Жыл бұрын
That must have been a sight to see! I was really lucky to see the first test launch of the SLS from Cocoa Beach this past fall. So brilliant and bright!
@unitedwestand5100
@unitedwestand5100 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@masskilla469 It's Cocoa Beach. And the best view was from the West side of the Indian River in Titusville. Fireworks are always fun, but the Shuttle program was a rushed, desperate engineering failure, that was doomed from the first launch. Any successful mission was just luck... Like Mike Mullane says @32:10, they didn't care, they were back in space....
@chrismartin4856
@chrismartin4856 Жыл бұрын
​@@masskilla469 I got to feel that rumble ,too !! Awesome ,eh !!!
@marksamuelsen2750
@marksamuelsen2750 Жыл бұрын
It really amazes me how dedicated, knowledgeable,passionate and professional all these people were!
@thomasbrunn4182
@thomasbrunn4182 9 ай бұрын
all programed not one saying should we wait till it warm we never launched on a cold day if we want to send an empty one up wow big decision.
@Brian424
@Brian424 4 ай бұрын
Yes. The fact that we can send a manned ship into outer space, cruise around, and then land the ship back on earth is an awesome thing. The biggest problem is how vast and inhospitable space is. It's a lot like the ocean, in that it's really difficult to explore safely and cheaply. I think people will learn more about space in the future than we will about the oceans, because of the mega-telescopes we have deployed in space. We can see a lot more up there than we can under miles of water.
@oldflorida2003
@oldflorida2003 11 ай бұрын
I was a space shuttle mechanic, it was a honor and privilege
@percyastronautstatus.8780
@percyastronautstatus.8780 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service
@dr.loomis4221
@dr.loomis4221 Ай бұрын
suuuuuure buddy
@christrinder1255
@christrinder1255 5 жыл бұрын
I was on holiday in the Florida from the U.K. and saw the take off from of the space shuttle Atlantis in September 1997, we got tickets to go into Cape Canaveral and they had speakers on posts around the area and you could hear the build up and countdown and see clearly the take off. It was really interesting to see it and hear it all, not on the TV but live and in real time. It’s an experience I’ll never forget. I took a cassette recorder with me and recorded the audio, sadly in moves and time I lost the tape but the memory of it all is still with me.
@ajcook7777
@ajcook7777 5 жыл бұрын
8:50 I'm not too savvy on space grade materials...what's the difference between alumanin and aluminum?
@metam.devad.neimte9212
@metam.devad.neimte9212 2 жыл бұрын
ادفعلي فتح خطي في سلطنة عمان .البنك الوطني .😎😂🎻
@Bydesign777
@Bydesign777 2 жыл бұрын
He just mistakenly said that. Pretty sure he was trying to say aluminum.
@expls
@expls 2 жыл бұрын
Saw the last space shuttle launch from the balcony of my winter home in Orlando.
@richardvinsen2385
@richardvinsen2385 2 жыл бұрын
I was in Florida with a group of co-workers at the time of a launch in the early 2000s. We had meetings in Tampa in the morning and drove at ridiculous speeds back to Titusville hoping to make it in time to see the launch. Eventually we reached a point when every car on the highway came to a stop and everyone exited their cars to look across the water. Soon enough, we heard the deafening roar of rockets followed by the brightest of flames rising into the sky. The shuttle and booster rockets were so far away, they only appeared to be just a few inches tall. While it would have been phenomenal to be closer to the launch, it was still a magical experience.
@MrPolymers
@MrPolymers 2 жыл бұрын
I remember both the Challenger accident and Columbia! With Challenger, I was working as a sales guy for a Major food company about to walk into one of my accounts on a Tuesday. I remember listening to the local talk show host when they cut into a bulletin about Challenger just before lunch. Columbia was a Saturday morning, I had left to take my son to his art lessons. While he was having his lesson, I stopped at a local McDonalds and everyone was glued to the TV they had in there watching the events.
@thomasbrunn4182
@thomasbrunn4182 9 ай бұрын
i bet tissue sale went up
@jimbarnard12345
@jimbarnard12345 3 ай бұрын
@@thomasbrunn4182 There were no concerns over tissue back then and even if people needed some a friend or a neighbor or even a stranger would help out. Ronald Reagan was president then and the only thing that went up was prayers,patriotism, and support for all the families involved.
@Natedawg-xc2pu
@Natedawg-xc2pu 3 ай бұрын
@@thomasbrunn4182 14 people died... Grow up
@Natedawg-xc2pu
@Natedawg-xc2pu 3 ай бұрын
@@jimbarnard12345 just ignore morons like that...
@joecombs7468
@joecombs7468 8 ай бұрын
I remember when Challenger blew. My submarine had just finished tying up after a patrol. We all stood on the mess decks looking at a small TV, no believing what our eyes just saw. You couldn't have fit one more man on the mess decks and you could have heard a pin drop. I had been home on leave a few months before and drove down to watch Challenger take off. But that launch was scrubbed.
@robharding5345
@robharding5345 9 ай бұрын
The very fact that man has made these fantastic machines to lift off into space, is a miracle in itself, and to think that the journey has only just begun, I watched the first moon landing in 69, I was a 12 yr old schoolboy. I may not be here when our brave astronauts land on the moon again, or in deed another planet , But I will be watching from afar, and wishing them all the luck in the world. And lastly, just a mention for all those we have lost in the pursuit of space travel. Gone, but never forgotten.
@TheHappySummerGirl
@TheHappySummerGirl 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful post!
@jlbathome9162
@jlbathome9162 9 ай бұрын
I'll never forget sitting in the classroom listening to the teacher tell us this will be the first teacher in space. Then, watching it blow up. They sent us all home after that.
@kathrynkenyon785
@kathrynkenyon785 9 ай бұрын
I don't think the "dream" stopped. It was realized and eventually concluded. We learned a lot about space travel and we will be forever grateful to those souls who gave the ultimate sacrifice to realize this dream. ❤
@paulbrouyere1735
@paulbrouyere1735 Жыл бұрын
As an aviation freak at the time the events in 1986 and 1993 touched me deep watching it on TV. I guess it changed all of us. RIP to the ones on board. Condolences to families and friends.
@SniffyPoo
@SniffyPoo Жыл бұрын
2003
@maryhurd6311
@maryhurd6311 Жыл бұрын
We still have Elon Musk. He could make it safe for space travel.
@mariekatherine5238
@mariekatherine5238 Жыл бұрын
School kids all over the US were watching this live and many were traumatized by it. This was before the days of having grief counselors in schools. In my school, the next day was just another school day. There were no notes to parents, no organized time to discuss or vent, just nothing.
@aaron5222
@aaron5222 9 ай бұрын
Well that's life.
@michaelfrost4584
@michaelfrost4584 10 ай бұрын
After all these years, l still remember Challenger and the school teacher's mum a dad watching as it exploreded, soo, soo sad R.I.P you brave, brave people ❤
@mrinvader
@mrinvader 9 ай бұрын
It happened on my 10th birthday .. January 28, 1986 .
@thomasbrunn4182
@thomasbrunn4182 9 ай бұрын
am sure that day was ruin @@mrinvader
@michaelfrost4584
@michaelfrost4584 8 ай бұрын
@@mrinvader dare oh dare. So sad.
@mrinvader
@mrinvader 8 ай бұрын
@@thomasbrunn4182 i was crushed.. .everyone in my class was crushed.
@AudioFileZ
@AudioFileZ 2 жыл бұрын
Living less than an hours drive, my daughter and I went to Huntsville, Alabama to see the Space Shuttle as it landed there en route to California for scheduled maintenance. It was one of the most amazing sites we'd ever seen by mutual agreement. A kind of "thank you" to a town who played a huge role in space exploration seemed entirely fitting.
@AlbertLebel
@AlbertLebel 2 жыл бұрын
That must have been wonderful. Wish I was there to see that. My hat is off is to all the men and women that made the shuttle work. IMO it truly is the 8th wonder of the world
@andrew_koala2974
@andrew_koala2974 2 жыл бұрын
John Werner ? It was one of the most amazing sites we'd ever seen " Should read: It was one of the most amazing sights we saw " Undertake an intensive reading program to better educate yourself and improve your knowledge of the English language - which is at elementary level. Invest in a dictionary. Learn the difference between similar sounding words. Sights and Sites are not the same meaning. Learn to write using paragraphs. The youngest students I taught age 8 academically outclass you. Make a list of similar sounding words and explain the differences between them. Explain the difference between ON / OFF and on / off and in which context they are used, Explain the difference between Passing and Overtaking. -Begin with those examples as it becomes more difficult later. That is your homework for this week. Be a learner Werner.
@AudioFileZ
@AudioFileZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrew_koala2974 I think of commenting on KZbin as casual. I, therefore, do not take ample time to read whatever my thoughts are after this casual approach. I am not attempting to be a writer. I am only noting the almost surreal sight of a huge spacecraft being ferried on top of a huge aircraft. Though "saw" is more compact, the use of "seen:" was used to emphasize all things witnessed over many years until that point. I have ran a business for four decades and am a college graduate . I may not communicate to your liking, but it has always served family,, employees, and customers effectively enough. Saying third grade students are more intelligent in comparison is obviously meant to insult. Your attitude is in no way the spirit of a caring educator as it is reflective of a narcissist. As such, you can edit this reply to your immaculate standards.
@bruce92106
@bruce92106 Ай бұрын
We never should have *_ever-ever-ever_* quit developing our iconic Saturn V. I shudder to even imagine the mighty marvel we'd have before us today!? Sorta peculiar how whenever Challenger is discussed, in most documentaries, Allan McDonald of Morton Thiokol is conveniently unmentioned?
@louiseprice7755
@louiseprice7755 2 жыл бұрын
I was 14 when Challenger exploded so horrifically, and was in disbelief and horror 17 years later when Columbia was lost. Both tragedies could have been prevented, NASA has blood on their hands...I hope all 14 brave astronauts who lost their lives are resting peacefully and will never be forgotten.
@xexyz0xexyl
@xexyz0xexyl 2 жыл бұрын
Oh sure NASA has blood on its hands - in a sense. But not for that! NASA owes space access to the Nazis. If you don't believe me look up Project Paperclip. The funny thing is their website even refers to the infamous location where there was appalling cruelty and death and suffering. They just don't mention the sinister history. But really it would be a disgrace to the memory of all the suffering if the knowledge wasn't used and we actually have gained a lot from space exploration. If you want to imply that every accident means someone has blood on their hands then far more people and entities have blood on their hands. Recently NASA didn't launch a rocket because of safety concerns. More than once. That's doing the right thing. But sometimes things are not noticed until it's too late. Accidents happen. They knew the risks involved. Is it tragic? Yes. But to say that NASA has blood on their hands is going too far. Certainly they've made mistakes but they're human. Just like you and me.
@StickHits
@StickHits Жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea how many other potential disasters could have happened but didn't? Do you really think that those brave astronauts didn't consider the reality that what they were doing was the extreme cutting edge of humanities capabilities, and had a serious level of risk involved? Is it so farfetched to think maybe NASA actually gave it 100% and even then it was unavoidable that there were going to be a couple accidents?
@louiseprice7755
@louiseprice7755 Жыл бұрын
@@StickHits Absolutely the astronauts knew the risks and were willing to try, they were incredibly courageous. I do think it was a high price to pay but that is just my opinion. The loss of life was so tragic both times, Columbia almost felt worse because they were so close to coming home. It was very sad to see the end of the space shuttle missions. There are a lot of reports on how the disasters could have been avoided including statements from NASA staff so I'm not just randomly blaming NASA, I've always been very supportive but a lot of facts came out afterwards that don't look great. Again, that's just my opinion, based on a lot of research I've done. However, I didn't work for NASA at the time so who knows?
@mikekincaid7412
@mikekincaid7412 Жыл бұрын
Nasa made it possible for you to post your comment
@boomerang0101
@boomerang0101 Жыл бұрын
@@mikekincaid7412 exactly man. These people don't realize that NASA, CERN etc has given so much morr to us. CERN for example led to what we call the internet.
@vcom2327
@vcom2327 Жыл бұрын
I worked on the software database used to track the heat shield tiles under the wings, way back when....
@faithannryan9083
@faithannryan9083 8 ай бұрын
I remember sobbing and praying them and their families
@rlg222
@rlg222 2 жыл бұрын
It was a real pleasure to work on the shuttle program from 1995 until 2011. I worked on the SRB FTS system and the hold down bolts to name a few.
@mr5oa1
@mr5oa1 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know Pat Kehoe? He worked on the ring with the slot milled in it that the rubber seal fits into on the SRB , he actually repaired it after the part had slipped out of the slings and wobbled like a giant coin, He tells me it had a gouge that he had to mill out, that changed the spec, the part would have worked had they waited for that part to warm up, he told me when they stared the count down he ran back to try and stop the Challenger launch, he ran into his manager and was in the process of conveying his fear of the intimate failure, the manager had to tell him the part had already failed and that all was lost! I consider Pat to be one of the most trustworthy men I know, and grateful too just to know him, He stops by my house almost every Thursday after he gets off work from Boeing where he works on the Starliner, and we race slot cars and have apple pie and have great conversations.
@misty28882
@misty28882 Жыл бұрын
Wow be nice to be your friend....i like all things NASA!!
@oldflorida2003
@oldflorida2003 11 ай бұрын
Hi, opf1 aft section
@zig322
@zig322 Жыл бұрын
My Family and I were there that day when Atlantis was rolling back from the runway after landing. Very exciting!
@mohdfahmi8841
@mohdfahmi8841 10 ай бұрын
//;*;;;*;*;;//.
@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg
@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg 8 ай бұрын
I remember This day real well, they stopped our classes and we all watched it on a TV.
@godblessamerica7048
@godblessamerica7048 Жыл бұрын
I had the honor of seeing both Columbia and Challenger twice in person while I served in the USAF. Every time it was on top of the 747. The first time it was in basic training and it flew overhead. Fantastic to see history. I was at the Davis-Monthan Air Force base’s aircraft control tower when I found out about Challenger. Columbia happened after my enlightenment.
@petrucioci07
@petrucioci07 Жыл бұрын
Nice? SHAME to see the history its a HOAX
@LoneWolf-wu6yn
@LoneWolf-wu6yn Жыл бұрын
That is such a sight to see. I walked as close as I could when that configuration was on my then assigned flightline. I love how in this video the reaction to the size was awe inspiring. Because it was. Unfortunately, when I saw it, smart phones didn't exist yet and I had no camera to take pictures. Edit: Or been allowed to take pics.
@hockley91
@hockley91 2 жыл бұрын
Although they won the contract, It’s interesting to note the blatant admission of not being able to achieve the goal of 50 flights a year is presented. That is astounding to me and a waste of taxpayer money. Even the Artemis rocket is going through this same scenario, but on a much more massive scale.
@DrDiff952
@DrDiff952 Жыл бұрын
Artemis is a joke compared to super heavy and starship. Not even the mighty Saturn 5 and the mighty F1 can top 33 raptors
@aaron5222
@aaron5222 9 ай бұрын
​@DrDiff952 it's a different mission built spacecraft. Like comparing a semi to a suv
@ΓιάννηςΓανωτής-ζ2χ
@ΓιάννηςΓανωτής-ζ2χ 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video... very comprehensible to be more precise!
@djpalindrome
@djpalindrome 6 ай бұрын
The shuttle was an immense achievement, notwithstanding the inevitable compromises imposed by severe budgetary restrictions
@johnparr5879
@johnparr5879 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely well made historical documentary highlighted by the very tragic loss of so many brave souls. And to some degree resurrected, by so many competent people ... Thank you*
@peterdemkiw3280
@peterdemkiw3280 2 жыл бұрын
The opening statement wasn't great was it? "In 2011 for the first time in it's history A-merica couldn't put a man into space" I think they think A-merica has been putting men into space since 1775..
@juliesczesny90
@juliesczesny90 2 жыл бұрын
30 years isn't a failure! Also, the Shuttle Orbiters were made for quick, reusable missions, about 112, within approximately 10 years, each. Ergo, those were the perimeters that they were constructed by. In the 90s, NASAs contractors had come up with a solution to the brittleness of the exterior of the shuttles: replace the tiles with a metal composite, at the cost of a few million each! Federal Govt flat out refused NASA. Ergo, we lost the Discovery! We only needed to do two things, to make it safe for the shuttles: replace the tiles, AND paint the center O2 tank! That held the insulation together enough to prevent large chunks from hitting the Shuttles' wings! We could've still had a running Shuttle fleet, until the private companies flights to the ISS was viable, and we wouldn't ever have had to depend on Russia, to pick up the slack! One of many reasons Putin felt he was safe in attacking Ukraine >:(
@andrew_koala2974
@andrew_koala2974 2 жыл бұрын
Julie Sczesny You wrote - Those were the perimeters that they were constructed? Can you explain what was the diameter of the perimeter ? Neither did Putin attack Ukraine The US funded the overthrow of the legitimate Government in 2014 Staring a proxy war that saw thousands of Ethnic Russians murdered since then - People that had been there for over 100 years. My late mother was of Russian parents and born in Ukraine in November 1920 -- Those Ethnic Russians besides being forced to speak another language - begged Russia for help -= Get that into your head. Educate yourself as you are ignorant of the facts - Or do you want a history lesson ?
@paulbrouyere1735
@paulbrouyere1735 Жыл бұрын
@@andrew_koala2974 you ‘forgot’ some other issues about tatars but I’m not schooled enough in history. What I do know is you don’t treat people in the way Russia does.
@denjo3131
@denjo3131 Жыл бұрын
The Space Shuttle Program was a failure. I'm not going to deny it, it was a beautiful machine, but did it reach it goals? No. The intention was 24 missions a year (*30 = 720 missions), in the end, there were only 135 missions (less than 5 a year), of which 2 resulted in a tragedy (1 in 67,5 flights), this is a horrible statistic. Also the costs were too high. And if you have to do heavy maintenance after each mission, can you call is truly reusable? You can make everything that lands back on earth reusable, as long as you put enough work in it. It wasn't safe at all, and NASA knew the problems
@michaelwarner4323
@michaelwarner4323 2 жыл бұрын
37:45, the documentary forgot to mention that Allen J McDonald tried to stop the launch of the challenger because he had grave concerns with the ice build-up on the shuttle. As usual NASA overruled Allen and told him to keep quite.,
@Kirovets7011
@Kirovets7011 Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's right. I don't know why they are not mentioning it.
@pattymelt9861
@pattymelt9861 9 ай бұрын
Watching the Challenger and Columbia “accident” still gives me goosebumps and brings tears to my eyes. I remember exactly where I was both times, of course,😢
@meanstavrakas1044
@meanstavrakas1044 9 ай бұрын
Let's go back to 1981! America was OURS!! And we were all proud to be Americans.
@torque-ej4nu
@torque-ej4nu 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the sixth and first. Enterprise. Although she never left orbit she was critical in learning how to land them. Enterprise was a prototype built for glider testing
@peterdemkiw3280
@peterdemkiw3280 2 жыл бұрын
None of them left orbit except when landing.
@chrismartin4856
@chrismartin4856 Жыл бұрын
My Mother took me ,with her to watch one in Cape Canaveral ,Florida. My uncle (Don) worked for NASA , and got us in .What a great life !!😅 He lived in Merrit Island.
@timewaster504
@timewaster504 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm able to look back at the sadness at the end of the film and know that spacex pulled through with their crew vehicle.
@mijodo2008
@mijodo2008 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Engineering and Human Achievement. Look what we can do pulling together as Humankind. Cheers from Michael. Australia.
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 6 ай бұрын
Key words: Pulling Together. No wars!
@ssy12335
@ssy12335 5 жыл бұрын
What kept that thing oriented properly on re-entry? The forces it had to deal with seem incredible. What a feat of engineering, navigation and airmanship (if that's a word). Still impressive!
@MaynardGKrebs-gv4vy
@MaynardGKrebs-gv4vy 5 жыл бұрын
It had thrusters. You can see the openings on the nose really well. All of our manned spacecraft had them.
@ssy12335
@ssy12335 5 жыл бұрын
Once back in Earth's atmosphere do the thrusters really have any influence, though? The friction seems insurmountable. Thanks for the answer!
@djbeezy
@djbeezy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ssy12335 No. Once the Shuttle got low enough into the atmosphere the aerosurfaces took over.
@stumpedii8639
@stumpedii8639 2 жыл бұрын
fly by wire and computers..
@Plato1962
@Plato1962 Жыл бұрын
@@ssy12335bvx is the
@moebazzi340
@moebazzi340 Жыл бұрын
We built the Robotic Arms here in Canada. We Call it Canadarm. Honestly When I see it I Just Feel so Proud to be part of the work. Go Canada. Go NASA. Bless All the Astronauts.
@djpalindrome
@djpalindrome 6 ай бұрын
The contributions by Canadian scientists and engineers are greatly appreciated
@kewlztertc5386
@kewlztertc5386 2 жыл бұрын
I recall being happy about the Challenger explosion. My elementary school principal came on the loud speaker, and announced it, then dismissed school for the rest of the day. I didn't know the significance, I was just happy to get a day off from school.
@codymoe4986
@codymoe4986 2 жыл бұрын
You're aging pretty well, if that's your photo in your avitar... Just saying, I remember watching the launch and explosion in the school gym, and then going right back to class afterwards. I'm also in my mid 40's..
@kewlztertc5386
@kewlztertc5386 2 жыл бұрын
@Cody Moe they sent you kids back to class? My school acted like it was the greatest tragedy in history. They had counselors the next day. If you were still emotional you could go home.
@mikemangieri7626
@mikemangieri7626 Жыл бұрын
It amazes me how those little brackets to hold the the space shuttle holds it to the external tank
@wendytwynter
@wendytwynter 6 ай бұрын
The first take off looks amazing
@Maggies87
@Maggies87 Жыл бұрын
I toured the SoCal Rockwell facility where the engines were made in 1982 with my community college engineering class. This exposure to a large scale engineering project and manufacturing facility made quite an impression. I knew I was lucky to get to see those engines and some of the people involved in their production. Like millions of others, I remain deeply saddened by two preventable shuttle crashes.
@robertbenoit5374
@robertbenoit5374 8 ай бұрын
So in other words, 1981 we lost 16 Tiles off the heat shield from the first flight of Columbia, NASA knew there was a problem with this, and did absolutely nothing for 22 years. In February 2003 we lost Columbia and that is when the heat shield became an issue. Seriously, they had other problems with it during the previous 22 years. One of the missions, Atlantis had19 tiles that were heavily damaged. Endeavor had tiles damaged as well. O rings on boosters were a problem as early as STS-2. COLUMBIA SECOND FLIGHT. it was O-ring burns. There were others from extreme temperatures before challenger was lost but NASA did nothing. Morton thiokol told NASA about these problems in 1984 and they ignored it.
@driskellrw
@driskellrw 4 ай бұрын
So. If you don't say anything about it. It'll be a state secret to get famous with. Ssssshhhhhh!
@jazwood957
@jazwood957 Жыл бұрын
Saw Atlantis at Kennedy last may when I visited Kennedy space centre. Was awesome. Never forget that day.
@raymond2608
@raymond2608 Жыл бұрын
I Have Watched Every Launch Into Space And Beyond AMASING😀😀😀😀😀
@andrewtoombs3867
@andrewtoombs3867 2 жыл бұрын
That is why it is very important to do checks and rechecks
@scott83074
@scott83074 11 ай бұрын
Amazing engineering. Congrats to all who worked on this amazing craft.
@snuglife599
@snuglife599 10 ай бұрын
LOOK! The earth is flat🤔😉😂🤣
@BeaIEngio
@BeaIEngio 9 ай бұрын
​@@snuglife599 It's not like that, the technological developments out of NASA influence your life in ways you don't even know. It was incredible engineering and advancement.
@JASON33054
@JASON33054 6 ай бұрын
Love the video hate the endless ED commercials
@josegutierrez5508
@josegutierrez5508 4 ай бұрын
Get youtube premium and u wont have no ads or commercials
@moiraatkinson
@moiraatkinson 2 ай бұрын
@@josegutierrez5508came here to say exactly the same thing 😊
@pauline_raabe
@pauline_raabe 6 ай бұрын
Fascinating stuff! 🚀 🌙 Call me old fashion but I like my two feet planted on the cool grass of Mother Earth.
@soloman4765
@soloman4765 Жыл бұрын
I saw the Space shuttle explode in 1986. All the students were in the oval watching at are elementary school in Orlando. I was 12 years old. I knew something wasn’t right and when I looked around and saw all the teachers crying😢 that confirmed to me I just witnessed a tragedy.
@WOT881
@WOT881 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the challenger explode from the back seat of my mothers car. We lived just south in Port Saint Lucie.
@nenblom
@nenblom 9 ай бұрын
“Columbia, Houston, UHF comm check.” “Lock the doors.” Chilling words.
@jeffreyzaleski412
@jeffreyzaleski412 7 ай бұрын
PJ DOC MAGOO VIETNAM VET. I was at home watching IT ON TV. Very interesting and informative I like that kind of things for myself. IF ITS UFOS 🛸 OR STRANGE THINGS I LIKE TO CHECK IT OUT.
@RobertStarkey-r7m
@RobertStarkey-r7m Жыл бұрын
Once the space shuttle left the atmosphere of earth, it enters the universal story
@jeffgantz4385
@jeffgantz4385 2 жыл бұрын
After the Challenger incident, the shuttle launches paused. But, nobody told Morton-Thiokol to stop making solid rocket fuel….in December 1987 100,000 pounds exploded outside of Bringham City UT
@vicbuisset5586
@vicbuisset5586 5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the launch of STS-1 as an Navy Petty Officer at RVAW-120 in Norfolk, VA
@RobbyHouseIV
@RobbyHouseIV 5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching it in Mrs. Fry's class in the 3rd Grade. It was pretty awesome. In fact I still have the drawings I made of the shuttle after they wheeled the television set out of the classroom and regular class resumed. It can be yours for $350.00.
@HooyahPeacock
@HooyahPeacock 5 жыл бұрын
I remember my first beer
@clintegbert3405
@clintegbert3405 9 ай бұрын
That was amazing to watch!!
@interwebtubes
@interwebtubes 2 жыл бұрын
BTW, Those o-rings were not SIMPLE, They were very complex and Were integral to the flight safety, The space shuttle could not take off without them
@eleventy-seven
@eleventy-seven 2 жыл бұрын
NASA forced Thiokol to OK the launch in colder then rated conditions. The engineers refused to sign off but Thiokol's administrator went against their better judgement.
@interwebtubes
@interwebtubes 2 жыл бұрын
@@eleventy-seven yeah buddy, no doubt about it, It’s still very sad that people lost their lives due to massive bureaucracy, No need for that, I really wish that those people involved with this tragedy were locked up for their criminal acts
@Trump145
@Trump145 Жыл бұрын
The space shuttle launches were never affordable every time that thing went up it cost over a billion dollars that's not cheap. If you notice they would always say the mission was a success they would never talk about the price.
@jamiewindridge8782
@jamiewindridge8782 9 ай бұрын
In uk, came home from school in 86 to find out challenger was no more. 14 astronauts lost, but future of space lives on. Maybe Starfied will become real.
@mikemangieri7626
@mikemangieri7626 Жыл бұрын
Look how peaceful earth looks from space no war no hate
@GeorgeCaramalac95
@GeorgeCaramalac95 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting video
@mikekincaid7412
@mikekincaid7412 Жыл бұрын
This makes me so proud to be an American.. yea, some mistakes just like any other endever with a risky project but we did it
@docwill184
@docwill184 10 ай бұрын
What sank that era of spaceflight was perfectly analogous to installing new engines on every 747 after flying to from LAX to China and then again for the next flight..
@Exo294-zb7ee
@Exo294-zb7ee 8 ай бұрын
😢 imagine being a student and see your best known teacher going to space but instead dies 😢 i feel soo bad for those children.
@paultracer3787
@paultracer3787 5 жыл бұрын
People have really lost interest. Many take for granted the leap in technology over the last 50 years.
@MrDelta88
@MrDelta88 5 жыл бұрын
MrAubery Flattard detected, permission to engage.
@ssherrierable
@ssherrierable 2 жыл бұрын
They failed 2 times in a row last week to even get off the ground. Supposedly they are going to try to land on the moon for real this time and not just on a Hollywood sound stage built to look like the moon. They were better at doing this stuff 50 years ago than they are today, nasa seems lost and defeated…
@billythekid-tm5ed
@billythekid-tm5ed Жыл бұрын
14 astronauts died from shuttle flights to space and back is just way, way ,way too many dying
@mikekincaid7412
@mikekincaid7412 Жыл бұрын
I saw enterprise come down late at night for a normal re entry.. wow what an awesome sight. This was northern Calif.. this thing was heading for The Cape and had a fireball like 4th of July
@ThamiumOne
@ThamiumOne 6 ай бұрын
The one called Enterprise was never an operational orbiter, and never launched into space - it was only used for landing tests in the 1970s and then as a test bed for other purposes while the other ones flew missions. It's one of the other vehicles you were watching during re-entry.
@Ghostshadows306
@Ghostshadows306 2 ай бұрын
Sorry but that was Venus you saw after inhaling too much spray paint.
@RobbyHouseIV
@RobbyHouseIV 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why the Shuttle Program was ended before the country had a replacement program either at the ready to enable the ability to carry humans into space. I find it embarrassing that we have to rely on other countries to perform this task which was a routine operation.
@peterdemkiw3280
@peterdemkiw3280 2 жыл бұрын
There's more than that for A-mericans to be embarrassed about.. Having to get a lift into space is the least of your worries. Ignorance and bigotry, violence and crime, and that's just your politicians, the man in the street claims to speak English but that drivel isn't English, in English colour has a U in it. A-merica, the biggest threat to world peace the world has ever seen and you're embarrassed by not being able to get into space. Ignorance is the bigger problem.
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@80sbeginner 3 ай бұрын
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@johnstevenson6795
@johnstevenson6795 Жыл бұрын
“For the 1st time in its history America can no longer put a man into space.” Might want to re-phrase that statement 😂
@unownyoutuber9049
@unownyoutuber9049 Жыл бұрын
no longer, as in they cannot anymore, which has the pretext of the ability to send a man in space in the first place. which they had until the cancelation of the shuttle
@petej.8676
@petej.8676 Жыл бұрын
I was a 21 year old working 3rd shift..that morning .I got home from work went right to bed .around 6:45 a.m. We had been working 10 or 11 hour shifts so free time was minimal...by the time you had 7 hours sleep it was tine to go to work again....same as this late afternoon..just getting up hadnt seen any t.v. or radio...i took a shower...and couldn't stop thinking about the dream i had..the shuttle crashed...but i kept thinking..no it didnt. and i dismissed it..when i arrived at my desk in the dispatch office. I remarked after pleasantries were exchanged that I had a dream the shuttle crashed but i said right away that i know it didnt....this guy turned to me with the most blank cold look Ive ever seen and after a few seconds he says dude not funny you know it did...well I must of returned that same icy blank stare because he said all the hair on his body stood up......till this day this is my story ..It still gives me chills thinking about it...Note: I didnt sleep with a t.v...radio...and for you Joe Biden....a phonograph on..T.Y. ✌️
@shabanafzal9440
@shabanafzal9440 4 жыл бұрын
Poor crew of Columbia. So sad
@fangas47210
@fangas47210 2 жыл бұрын
They probably walk around somewhere, well paid , sworn to never tell the truth,
@peterbothwell9005
@peterbothwell9005 10 ай бұрын
@@fangas47210…oh please.
@nuvostef
@nuvostef 2 жыл бұрын
The dream did NOT fail. It may not have reached all the goals desired, but it was absolutely not a failure. It was, in fact, a magnificent triumph in a great number of ways.
@stumpedii8639
@stumpedii8639 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it set back the space program. Don't worry tho Elon seems to have picked up the pieces and moved on. Tiles that flake off? death rate? insanity. in fact nothing destroyed my faith in this country more than the day the first shuttle blew up. I lost faith.. i remembered the thresher and scorpion.. America's infallibility was a lie. The challenger disaster woke me up. Shuttle was a money pit.. corporations profiting.. safety a joke.
@robertmcnearny9222
@robertmcnearny9222 2 жыл бұрын
It was a failure. It went from being a simple shuttle to and from space stations to a overpriced satallite deployment vehicle. That is all it was.
@jeffreyrose4240
@jeffreyrose4240 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertmcnearny9222 once again, failure is the wrong word.. the ISS wouldn't exist without it... so many other projects both amercian and international were only possible because of it... we may never see another heavy lift vehicle like this in our life times
@robertmcnearny9222
@robertmcnearny9222 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyrose4240 of course the ISS would exists without it. Russian side was built without a shuttle. Chinese built a station without a shuttle. You think the US needed the shuttle to build ISS?. Heck without the exorbitant cost of the shuttle program, the ISS would be way bigger and better than it is now. The shuttle was a failure.
@mr5oa1
@mr5oa1 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertmcnearny9222 135 successful missions / failure? if you say so.
@BSNFabricating
@BSNFabricating 5 жыл бұрын
The shuttle cost $209 billion over thirty years... Yes, that's a lot of money, but how many billions (well, trillions) have been wasted on endless wars since 2001?
@zaz4667
@zaz4667 5 жыл бұрын
Last number I heard was around 6-7 trillion total!
@dkjohnson9631
@dkjohnson9631 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@woodie6408
@woodie6408 3 жыл бұрын
The shuttle made millions, tens of millions, with each satellite it took up and launched.
@dq1275
@dq1275 Жыл бұрын
@@woodie6408 No. The shuttle repair business was cancelled after only repair 7 satellites. It was a loss for all the investment poured into achieving the capability. An exception was made for continuing the Hubble space telescope.
@Peter-op8by
@Peter-op8by 7 ай бұрын
Agreed,in that light consider we are still infants in space but in war... guess what... boys will be boys AND...they NEVER grow up. However, priorities dictate that resources spent on security, policing, bodyguards, standing armies and all the necessary acutriments,parafrinalia,etc are in my opinion not wasted in that we get better at doing it and the same applies to the growth, development and expertise we will achieve if we keep at it while facing up to the challenges inherent in our adversarial nature. Let us not overlook the progress achieved by cooperation and collaboration in whatever the human brain puts in focus. We are on the brink of a quantum leap forward which will put Earth on the map of a force to be reckoned with... hopefully sooner than later, especially since other world science leaves us playing catch-up...P...
@raymond2608
@raymond2608 Жыл бұрын
The Best Of The Best
@nenblom
@nenblom 9 ай бұрын
Those hero astronauts were doomed right from the start. May they rest in peace.❤❤
@robertbenoit5374
@robertbenoit5374 8 ай бұрын
And actually Challenger did not blow up. What we see in the videos is the right booster. It burned through the liquid fuel tank and the tank blew up. There is evidence to show that the Shuttle crew was alive upon impact with the ocean. They had emergency oxygen devices. Wreckage recovered from Challenger proves at least 3 of 7 were alive because 3 of the devices were activated. Autopsies were inconclusive due to the blunt trauma of impact with the ocean. However, NASA made an error with the Shuttle design, not building an escape system. Something they have built into this new Ares system we are about to start using.
@nenblom
@nenblom 11 ай бұрын
RIP Space Shuttle ❤❤
@outfield1988
@outfield1988 9 ай бұрын
Will never forget the Challenger was like 22 back then so it seems like a different life ago.
@non-human3072
@non-human3072 2 жыл бұрын
0:50 seconds in ..... Even at the time of making this documentary. Proton comes to mind..
@JosephDent-qd9ih
@JosephDent-qd9ih 10 ай бұрын
79 have died in the Osprey 22
@thatGUYbehindthemask
@thatGUYbehindthemask 2 жыл бұрын
imagine having a 3d printer that can make formed thermal tiles in space.
@80sbeginner
@80sbeginner 3 ай бұрын
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@ohheyitskevinc
@ohheyitskevinc 5 ай бұрын
0:15 “for the first time in its history, America can no longer put a man into space”. 1776 to 1961 was also a dry period for putting people into space too.
@Tyler.i.81
@Tyler.i.81 5 жыл бұрын
Emotional
@Ifelloutawindow
@Ifelloutawindow 4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the launch at the Kennedy space center. I was about 3 or four years old at the time. At 2:22 I was there but I only remember a giant flash of light and sleeping in my moms car. Also sitting on my dads shoulders.
@RobertStarkey-r7m
@RobertStarkey-r7m Жыл бұрын
It can also be 1. Bald eagle bird 2. Bald eagle America 3. Bald eagle shuttle in the universal story. The Spece shuttle is a worldly story and a universal story
@SteveSmith-cd4hs
@SteveSmith-cd4hs 27 күн бұрын
0:0:14 - "For the first time in its history, America can no longer put a man in to space" . Yeah, I remember reading about how George Washington was the first ever astronaut. What a guy he was.
@charlesstauffer9831
@charlesstauffer9831 2 жыл бұрын
The most complex, expensive, and dangerous way to get payloads into space. Let's hope we never repeat this mistake again.
@Natedawg-xc2pu
@Natedawg-xc2pu 3 ай бұрын
To say it failed is a gross misrepresentation of the facts. Yes there were two tragedies but the impact of Shuttle on our lives and current space technologies are living testimony of the success of Shuttle over the 30 years it made history...
@jeremycox2983
@jeremycox2983 3 жыл бұрын
The Shuttle Program wasn’t a failure when it comes to reusability. It was the first time that we as a species tried to reuse a spacecraft. But fast forward to 2021 the lessons that were learned from the Space Shuttle era, we see those lessons applied with SpaceXs Crew, cargo dragons with both versions of cargo dragon. But also with the Falcon 9/Falcon Heavy.
@woodie6408
@woodie6408 3 жыл бұрын
You haven't been in space unless you go thru re-entry. Space x and others have not been to space. They been working on it, just not quite there yet.
@jeremycox2983
@jeremycox2983 3 жыл бұрын
@@woodie6408 the Falcon 9 does go through re-entry it’s suborbital for the first stage. Both versions of cargo dragon and then crew dragon go through reentry because we see that every six or so months
@kewlztertc5386
@kewlztertc5386 2 жыл бұрын
Really they weren't reusable. They'd spend months rebuilding the engines, boosters, tanks, heat tiles/skin, and many components. Each space shuttle, was a genuine Ship of Theseus.
@jeremycox2983
@jeremycox2983 2 жыл бұрын
@@kewlztertc5386 true every time we flew them we learned something new and we learned from our mistakes.
@leefoster4133
@leefoster4133 2 жыл бұрын
I know about those two events where NASA performed allot of cover ups on. Both could have been avoided.
Ай бұрын
The biggest giveaway, when asked why we haven’t been back, is that NASA Said publicly We used to have the technology, but we no longer do. Also, Say they don’t have the budget anymore. Nasa had numerous failed attempts prior to the Moon Landing” and somehow convinced the public that they figured it out and had a flawless execution on 1969 tech but now no longer have the technology available in 2024. Musk has said that there's a 70 percent chance that he'll travel on a rocket to Mars in his lifetime, and that he's thinking about eventually moving there to live in a human outpost on the surface of the red planet. And the genius can't even land on the Moon. Elon Musk always reminds me of that Green Day Song "American Idiot." It should be the US National anthem song.
@brucemacallan6831
@brucemacallan6831 5 жыл бұрын
First comment. Shwinggggg!
@emermbiemeri
@emermbiemeri 6 ай бұрын
emisionin super keni kry. me atoranautet. mos bani eksperimente. astorsnautet. te rrine qet. keni befasira.
@percyastronautstatus.8780
@percyastronautstatus.8780 3 ай бұрын
The pressure to launch came from the higher ups.. Was this bound to happen ANYWAY ? or if they could have waited could this been prevented? I do not know the answer to the question but underneath the shuttle you can see it was frozen like a popsicle but they still went ahead with the the decision to launch
@krozareq
@krozareq Жыл бұрын
The Space Shuttle was cool but very inefficient. Could send far more payload up there with an orbiting maneuvering adapter on the back of it for ISS deliveries and then launch astronauts on a much smaller booster, like SpaceX does with the Falcon 9. The mass of the orbiter was mostly dead weight just for the benefit of glider landings along with a complex and fragile heat shield. Was a defining project but really should've been used for maybe a decade and not relied on so heavily. With a similar launch vehicle (the RS-25s on the back of what they already used) they could've done a lot more and even open up the possibility of Moon bases with multiple launches.
@halfrhovsquared
@halfrhovsquared Жыл бұрын
8:34 Ohhhh FFS! Isn't it about time that myth died? It isn't friction which causes re-entry heating. It is pressure. If it were friction, the Shuttle would have been built with a sharp nose and leading edges and the most intense heating would occur where the air is moving fastest over the hull. It was built with a blunt nose and leading edges and the most heating occurs where the air is moving the slowest. This is because re-entry heating is caused by intense pressures in the hypersonic bow-wave.
@80sbeginner
@80sbeginner 3 ай бұрын
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@rancosteel
@rancosteel Жыл бұрын
What dvd title is this,
@russellwilliams4317
@russellwilliams4317 Жыл бұрын
We would be exploring deep space right now if we would simply stop putting a price tag on everything... I mean, look at the technological advancements made due to the lunar landings and everything that came afterwards! Where would we be IF nobody pressed the pause button on NASA?!
@crewrangergaming9582
@crewrangergaming9582 Жыл бұрын
and who pays for everything? oh sorry, you said no pricetag, so no one even needs to buy anything, they just make it. How do you pay the workers who make those stuff though? Are you suggesting slavery?
@crewrangergaming9582
@crewrangergaming9582 Жыл бұрын
Deep space? Do you even understand the logistic and technological feat required to even surpass the boundaries of the solar system to even get to deep space?? I think you think just pushing money into something is how technological advancements work? Well, no matter how much money any country would have put into spaceships before we had the theory of general relativity, they would have never been able to do it right without the knowledge, that knowledge came from Einstein not by brute forcing his way into with money. You need the knowledge before you make a technical feat that is still impossible with the current knowledge of things. Einstein's theory made lasers possible, which in turn made many medical equipment a reality that we all rely on today.
@f32440i
@f32440i Жыл бұрын
Disagree, we need to be realistic financially and technologically, until we find another propulsion system other than rocket fuel we'll continue to tread water messing around with earth's moon trips
@PatrickRKay
@PatrickRKay 11 ай бұрын
NASA is back with space x
@88njtrigg88
@88njtrigg88 10 ай бұрын
They were all ready achieving that, before and after Space shuttle.
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